Owners practical review on the AJP PR 5 model - Enduro - Trailriding bike

[@musique2005]

Loved the video in 2024. Cheers!

[@larrynorsworthy8582]

I have a pr4. Love the nimble handling, mellow power and comfortable seat.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

Hi Larry. I'm actually looking for one right now. Been down to see one but we couldn't agree on a price. I need it for the occasional short legged rider coming through. Till then I'll play with the adjustment on a PR5.

[@larrynorsworthy8582]

@@algarvetrailridingtours pr3 would be great for short legged riders

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

@@larrynorsworthy8582 yes I'm torn between the 3 and 4 but I fancy the 4 is a bit more sturdy.

[@ronthompson9555]

I have had my 2015 for 3 years and love it. I do mostly tight woods trail riding and it handles it very well. Mine comes in a bit heavier at 265# or 121 kilos dry. it can be a handful inverted on a knife edge trail. Loads of low end torque to get you up and out of lots of trouble, and Billy Goat is a good name for it, only missed getting up one hill first try, and that was my fault. It will power up at revs you would swear would bog it out and stall... That 280 kit sounds like it would light it up just right... (kit is not from AJP)

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

The kit can be ordered I believe at the factory on a new bike. Out of factory you would have to search zongshen kits. Glad you're enjoying your bike. Let's get out of covid to enjoy them a lot more.

[@buttsyburnbob]

Had a pr3 pro was best bike ever to ride turns like nothing handles the green lanes like a champ 🏆

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

glad you enjoyed it

[@Dashriprock4]

We have an AJP dealer very close to us and he has brought the PR5 out to some local events. Very very impressive little machine. If they were street legal in the United States I might have snagged a PR4 a couple of years ago. When I pick up a second bike they're on my short list.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

I have a friend in Oregon. He has issues with licensing too. Also it's good to have a dealer reasonably close. The spares network is v.small in the USA I believe.

[@Dashriprock4]

@@algarvetrailridingtours it’s minuscule here. I always have love affairs with boutique bikes. SWM, AJP, Beta etc

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

@@Dashriprock4 I know the feeling. I bought a Sherco for myself a few years ago....A lot of people commented is it Chinese, Japanese etc so it's nice to see them doing so well now and representing in the Dakar too.

[@Dashriprock4]

@@algarvetrailridingtours I’m hoping SWM will thrive. Any idea how they are doing in Europe and Asia? Still very very small here.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

@@Dashriprock4 still v. small...a few of us old timers remember their great name from 70's - 80's because of Trials success (Bernie Schreiber - US) but a lot of people say..."who is SWM ?"

[@choutos404]

Considering a SPR 310 myself. My idea is to use it as base for a rally bike.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

I think the 510 would be a better option. I have seen it raced in PT in the TT series. Unless you are restricted by the 450cc ruling of course.

[@buggs9950]

I'm dead keen on getting kitted up to do some green laning in Britain. I grew up competing in trials on old twin shocks and like the sound of these PR5's being well suited to the slower technical stuff. Flailing about in the lanes on a highly strung crosser sounds horrible. Feet up and keep it clean!

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

I grew up on a rigid framed BSA Bantam scrambler....LOL....Yes, they are ideal green laners. Personally I think the other ajp option the PR4 is underpowered and would not recommend that but they are a small frame bike so suit smaller people. The PR5 or the SPr250 are ideal for laning and enjoying more trials-esque laning. Let me know if you get one. If you fancy a trailriding holiday to after lockdown etc, drop me a line.

[@buggs9950]

@@algarvetrailridingtours Thank you. I haven't been abroad for many, many years. Though my brother does have a place to stay in Portugal so you never know! What do you think of the SPR models and how much do they differ to the PR? There's very little information about them that I can find. My dad's got a rigid/tele Velocette trials bike he built some years ago, it's a handful.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

@@buggs9950 oooh, there you go. Maybe see you one day. Best wishes.

[@choutos404]

Could you explain those inexpensive upgrades in a bit more detail? A video would be very welcome :)

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

After market ECU from Thork Racing in PT - not available any more I believe. Newer Fuel Injector. Inline fuel filter, high grade HT cable and Spark plug cap. Mousses, Extreme engine protector, Suzuki RM80 gear lever, wrap round hand guards, that's it. I would like a hydraulic clutch but this is quite expensive mod. My modifications were very cheap.

[@trevornugent9680]

Great video thanks 👍

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

Thx Trevor for the positive feedback. Obviously this is a grass roots video, I have no affiliation etc with AJP and I just did this vid to help spread the name of these bikes from my own very personal perspective.

[@steveh545]

How does it compare to the SWM you reviewed earlier? I agree with Jeff (below) about boutique bikes. Like supporting the smaller companies. I'm in TX. No AJP here yet. I'd love to get the chance to ride one. Maybe I'll pop over. I was supposed to be in Lisbon in Nov, but, well... yeah, anyway. Algarve is on top of my bucket list, will shout out if i make it over. Cheers

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

Hi Stephen. Difficult to give a straight answer. It's bit like comparing apples and pears really. That being said...The SWM has the top end power, which is great, comes with v. good accessories/suspension, hydraulic clutch too. It is a fair bit heavier though and feels heavier at the back end. The AJP much lighter and flickable very nice ideas i.e. tank under seat, shorter wheelbase. Also good suspension. Lacks that bit of extra ooomph. Spend a lot of time being a "mechanic". I like them both actually. Both have gas tanks of 7.1L but the swm is a lot more thirsty. Both are very, very capable trail/enduro bikes and both deliver a big bang for your buck, so that's good. If you're a heavier rider go swm, if a lighter rider go pr5. Of course when ajp delivers the 310cc that will be very interesting comparison.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

Sorry BTW of course when you get to PT/Lisbon pop down for a ride. www.algarvetrailriding.com

[@Liamofloin]

Would the SPR250 be a consideration if I have been considering the Honda CRF300 Rally (big fuel capacity, reasonably capable off road, comfy on road, wind deflection, reliability, price €7,800, parts network, service intervals 12k klm, ABS, fuel economy, cannot think of more right now)? I'd be mostly using on road(not motorways). Thanks. Liam. Ireland.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

To me I personally feel there's a huge difference between the 2 bikes. In essence I'd say the 300L is a road bike with off-road capability. The SPR is an off-road bike with some road capability. If planning more commuting and adv riding then CRL if wanting more enduro biased riding SPR. However, there's always a bit of crossover on bikes.

[@Liamofloin]

@@algarvetrailridingtours Thanks Anton. I'd use it for more small country roads. In Ireland there aren't really big, vast areas for off-road motorbiking. I live in the countryside & we have a few acres of land ride a bike on but I know you can't be belting up the mountain with sheep on them, the farmers would be going mad & I realise that myself. The smaller service intervals put me off & the price too is a big factor for me, it'll be possibly next year or the year after before I have enough money to buy. Thanks again Anton & good luck with your business. Liam.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

@@Liamofloin well good luck whatever you go for. I'm sure you'll have a blast either way.

[@delnelio]

Excelente opinião.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

obrigado no mesmo

[@ka4172]

i am afraid there is no kickstarter ,does the electric starter ,battery never fail? is it possibel to ride in first gear with complete stear to one side made circles and doesent touch the clutch? I was looking for a CRF230F but there only one in the year on the market here ;AJP three in a year. I search for lightweight more trials character bike ,lower power is no problem but i want it also ride on the street around 100Kmh. My bike now KLR250 and a Beta Alp for more difficult trial like trailrides. Subbed because i want to now more about the AJP PR5.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

You are not alone not liking dirtbikes without kick starters. I do not like it as well, I prefer the redundancy offered by 2 methods to start a bike. It means your batter has to be in very good condition all the time (also for the fuel injection system). I think all big names make new motorbikes without kickstart to save on the weight of the bike....I wish they didn't. Yes, 1st gear is very low ratio...make full circle not using the clutch, no problem. You need to make good battery maintenance and starter motor maintenance to ensure good starting.

[@Watuba]

Thank you for your review. I just purchased mine PR5, but haven't tested it offroad, because it sits on SM wheels. Waiting for offroad set. Rear wheel bearings squeek pitifully. What have you replaced it with? Would you share, please?

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

well done Borys, hope you enjoy the bike. I usually buy bearings from a bearing shop. I cannot remember the serial numbers now but I try to use either SKF or Fagor bearings depending on what any supplier has. Generally accepted that SKF are the "best" but either brand is very good. Remember not too overload the bearing with grease, just enough. Double check the spindle tube (that sits between the 2 bearings is the correct length. Some of mine have been way too long and I've taken a bit off so that the bearings sit better on the wheel hub machined face, not on the tube alone.

[@Watuba]

@@algarvetrailridingtours Thanks a lot. In the meantime I managed to download the spare parts list and the specs are there. It's actually quite a nice surprise that AJP makes it so easy available. Thank you for the tips.

[@offroia]

Gosto muito da AJP

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

boa e obrigado por seguir a pagina

[@770hevron]

Not so many videos about this bike.....

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

yes, not much on the web or YT. I was thinking to make a 5 Top Tips for a PR5 owner but not sure if it's worth it really.

[@888ssss]

they are like a cross between a ktm and a montessa.

[@Watuba]

Hello there. Did you ever had issues with bike stalling when idle? I have it with my PR5 and after it gets warmed up, it stalls every time I pull the clutch. Many things were checked, like spark plug, compression, fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump, valve clearance etc. Sorry for bothering you, I don't know what I can do...

[@perfektrepairs7934]

Weak fuel pump check filter hasn't fallen off your fuel pump in the tank

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

Did you also check the battery ? It needs to be in good condition to feed teh fuel pump constantly. Did you change the injector or injector filter ?

[@Watuba]

@@perfektrepairs7934 Thank you. The filter did fall off, I put it back, then the bike went to a mechanic, who checked the fuel pump and many other things. The bike was fine for... 1 ride. Now it's getting worse again.

[@Watuba]

@@algarvetrailridingtours Thank you. I will swap the battery and see if it helps. The injector was replaced, but I don't know about injector filter, need to check with the mechanic. Unless you mean the fuel filter, which is attached to the pump inside the tank. This one fell off before and I put it back, but maybe something still clogs the fuel line.

[@Watuba]

@@algarvetrailridingtours I replaced the battery and the problem was gone! Thank you!

[@Sanddog-ec1du]

What do you think of the pr5 has a dual sport or a small adventure bike? Do you think it can stand some long rides around the country? I was thinking of buying a crf300l but the pr5 looks really nice and is also a lot lighter.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

Hi great question. Not sure what country you are in but 2 friends of mine recently did a lap of Portugal using TET and another part of the ACT. 3000kms in total. Both did it on the PR5. I think if you change the gearing you can make it very adventure ready. I have another friend just fitting a small nav rally screen and utilising LED headlights just like on the Rally Nav towers so yes people are making adventure bikes from the PR5. To me the biggest limiting factor is it has only a 7L fuel tank so you need to think about alternative fuel carrying ideas. I know the 250L is a great adventure bike I imagine the 300L will be as well. Hard for me to say which bike I'd choose but if my buddies have just done 3000km ride I guess that's your answer.

[@daleharding2826]

any idea where i could get a rear mudguard please

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

MHB motorcycles or direct from AJP

[@Weltbummler23]

Ajp should make a dual sport in the 400-500cc range

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

They have an immense array of sizes but in that size bracket they have the 510cc enduro. Not really dual sport per say but I'm sure a few tweeks can make it a bit more of an adventure style enduro.

[@Weltbummler23]

@@algarvetrailridingtours yeah but unfortunately a few tweaks can’t increase the oil change interval to > 2000km. Also it doesnt look like it has a rear subframe for luggage rack attachment.

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

@@Weltbummler23 sub frame I don't know. I agree completely the 2k oil change interval but there are at least 2 people that have made headlines for RTW trip on a exc500 and the interval is even less than 2k on them....around 7 hrs...from memory.....not ideal agreed but if light is your main factor then I guess it's "possible"....I'm still looking for my unicorn too.

[@Weltbummler23]

@@algarvetrailridingtours yeah ive heard of the RTW trips on the EXC 500, but my guess is they must have been pushing the 7 riding hour service intervals… not quite that bike’s purpose. My unicorn’s not so hard, just make a modern dual sport lighter than the latest 690 enduro R and more cc’s than the klx300…. Thats a pretty big gap in between. I think it will come sometime in the next 5-10 years.

[@russcattell955i]

@@Weltbummler23 Have you considered the PR7 ? Its claimed 165kg wet (17L fuel tank) V KTM 690 enduro R claimed 146 dry (13L fuel tank). Some manufacturers dry claim is not just fuel, coolant & oils also battery. I'm undecided between keeping my road bike and adding a PR4/5 for trails or just having the "Big dog" PR7, cheaper to run 1 bike plus it won't put my licence in danger.

[@radiodjkevin]

Good review

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

Thanks

[@Nikolas4g63]

hello there. hope you can help, how much khm do you cover with full tank with regular driving?

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

I can run to 110kms...standard trim....if you ride hard maybe 95kms...if you have a bigger pump/uprated ecu maybe 90kms

[@Nikolas4g63]

@@algarvetrailridingtours nice thanks. Where do you get upgraded parts for it? Or was it custom parts?

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

@@Nikolas4g63 best to join a FB group for AJP and ask for items there

[@strifex-suspension-works]

Hello! Do you have any experience with SPR 250/310R/510R? If so, how would you rate them? How would you compare those SPR models? How would you compare them with SWM RS300R? Actually, isn't that 310R equipped with the same engine as SWM RS300R? I'm interested in AJP as well as SWM for short-distance commuting + weekend trail / enduro riding as well as occasional low-level amateur races (like Atom/Iron @ Romaniacs, etc.), as they're really cheaper than KTM/Yamaha/Fantic, etc, so I'm really interested. Thanks!

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

NEVER ridden any of the SPR range. I like v. much the 310 AJP, yes exactly same engine as SWM. To me these are not suitable at all for commuting...see my other comments to you. It seems on paper the AJP 310cc maybe the "better" enduro/weekend racing bike....hard to tell and need to factor in spares, back up service, price. I am thinking to buy an AJP 310 next year to go with the SWM's...not sure but will consider it. Fantic use the same as the AJP PR5 engine (Zongshen) in a bike as well.....just an idea.

[@strifex-suspension-works]

@@algarvetrailridingtours Thanks for info! Yeah, I was checking out the Fantic XEF 250 Trail with 250cc 4 stroke Zongshen engine, although I don't like it as much because of its suspension. As I understand forks are not adjustable. Other than that I like Fantic and I have a dealer nearby. Regarding this engine, as I understand, you haven't had any trouble? how many hours / km you've had on those PR5? Thanks

[@rzrian2386]

Same cc, wich bike to buy? ajp or swm?

[@mosheasaf677]

hi can it run on road ?

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

They are road legal in Europe/UK yes

[@ruipedrocampos]

How does it compare to the rs300?

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

Pls scroll through the questions as I made a comment earlier regarding the RS300r. Obrigado e fica bem

[@tigotuning]

where did you get the ecu?

[@algarvetrailridingtours]

The one I got isn't available anymore...I got it a few years ago via a connection. You can maybe chat to the tech support team at ajp ?

[@franktaylor7617]

😎👍🇺🇲

[@patrickcawagdan8999]

I need someone to msg me over Facebook about my app 240cc I need parts