oWoD: Sabbat - Part 1

[@grozwald]

The best thing I've ever heard said about the Sabbat has been, "In the Sabbat, you are free to do as you please, as long as you have the power to do as you please."

[@Nyrufa]

Another nice thing that can be said about them, is their Vaulderie ritual gives you something that neither the Camarilla, nor the Anarchs can provide. Bonds of love and friendship between you and your coterie. In the other two sects, it's pretty much well known that everybody is ultimately out for themselves first and foremost. Alliances are made for the sake of convenience, and broken off once they have served their purpose. But when it comes to the Sabbat, your pack is your new family, and each member would be willing to give their lives to protect the others if the situation called for it. Sure, they may be a bunch of religious fanatics, but at least with the Sabbat, you're in the company of people you can trust to guard your back, instead of stab it.

[@coalkingryan881]

Honestly, it’s an interesting philosophy that can either go well or end in complete destructive chaos. Either people are so caught up fighting each other or some random bloke figures mutually assured destruction is better than a fractured ego. In a way, it’s just like how the real world works.

[@GhimelStarr]

Please never stop making videos.

[@skeletonking4119]

Yes please! He’s videos are awesome

[@FirestormMk3]

Seems that sadly he did though...

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

We are needing some good channel only about OWoD, I enjoyed all his videos.

[@CherryMosley]

You jinxed it

[@Theokal3]

Well, that was fascinating. I had no idea that Sabbat was that complex as a faction; really puts things in perspective. Now I see wy fans were annoyed about them being reduced to chaotic psychos in Bloodlines. Thanks a lot, and please do continue these videos^^

[@anotherboredperson]

Well, chaotic psychos are an important part of the sabbat. The Shovelheads are shock infantry, and most sabbat packs are not made to last- but to be guided missiles in a never ending war. Andre was more indicative of the middle-power sabbat leaders. He was a pack priest, a skilled manipulator, and was running a counterintelligence mission against the city's Nosferatu- one so successful that NO ONE but the Nosferatu had any idea what was going on, and they couldn't communicate it outside without losing face. The Sabbat is a collection of tactical geniuses who have hundreds, some THOUSANDS of years of experience behind them. But 95% of the Sabbat will not make it past the first year of their embrace. The real manipulators rarely show their face, while everyone else may as well the The Lost Boys.

[@Marten_Broadcloak]

anotherboredperson said it right. The Shovelheads are a thing, and probably the only Sabbat most Camarilla Kindred ever face. The further in you go, even to a decent, vetted pack, things get a LOT more structured, effective and even somewhat stable. To some sense. It WAS a bit disappointing to see the Sabbat reduced to simple psychos and powerful freaks. They are so much more. They are a deeply complex and rather awesome sect. Deeply inhuman, but... at least they're not lying to themselves about what they are.

[@florida_sucks]

I've never seen anyone complain about this with Bloodlines. How is Andrei a chaotic psycho??? The Sabbat has shovelheads and grunts, of course, but to say that Bloodlines mischaracterized the Sabbat is simply inaccurate.

[@AAllen-br8it]

You're like the Leutin09 of WoD content. Super informative and consistent with the mood of the setting. I'm loving it.

[@benjamindouglass3195]

Look I understand you probably dont plan on doing frequent videos but as soon as I looked at your channel I nearly fainted thinking there might be an in depth look at oWoD VTM. I hope you release more content soon.

[@CarrowMind]

Sabbat fascinate me, I wish more people would run Sabbat games but they aren't as popular, mostly because they're seen as a joke sect and popular only with edgy teens who only want a combat heavy gorefest type of game. But if the chronicle is written well, if the storyteller is competent and knows how to build atmosphere, and the players are mature and dedicated to their characters and the setting then a Sabbat game has the potential to be as interesting as any Camarilla or Anarch game.

[@turinturambar6234]

You could do a game with paths that limit innocent deaths like the path of retribution in which your main focus is killing Camarilla which gives you a clear enemy along with blood bonds that prevent betrayals from easily happening. I find the Sabbat fun because of the combat focus however diplomacy is still possible through factions and philosophical paths the Sabbat who wish to guide the organization, ranging from Loyalists who highly sympathize with the Anarchs and Ultra-Conservatives who are Sabbat supremacists. A Sabbat game isnt like a Camarilla game where your bloodline or rank matter more than your beliefs the Sabbat is malleable & always changing through ruthless force.

[@rawrbeez6625]

Also if the ST controls and limits options for PoE s. If you don’t want it to turn into a gore fest, use some more creative paths. I would love for my ST to let me play the Path of Redemption in our v5 game as like a shock to the rest of the players. They could be very nuanced.

[@ValtroileIzolda]

Mature players, competent STs, and the right atmosphere all are necessary for any Vampire game, not just Sabbat. Edgy teens can make any game a gorefest, or a Twilight cosplay, or a lame attempt at Ann Ryce style chronicle.. Why I have always played Sabbat games, is that it's the most complex sect, playing which raises the toughest questions. And, btw, with a right atmosphere, Sabbat games turn into a proper psychological thriller instead of a Rob Zombie movie the elitist Camarilla players love to scoff at so often. Sabbat games are the best because they are the most challenging and demanding both from ST and the players not to overstep that Edge where a tragedy turns into a farce. In terms of the power of emotions and self-reflection they invoke they almost reach Wraith: The Oblivion levels.

[@AAllen-br8it]

I played in a pretty cool Sabbat game. It was kind of fanfictiony tbh but it was at least not a combat focused "Mwahahaha, we're bad guys" game.

[@grantmajoor9928]

This video was very very well done. I hope you continue to produce them.

[@KudaDM]

Your voice and your reading is even better in this video. Well done! Thank you for what you are doing. These are good summaries of what players and storytellers need to know about sects. I hope you'll do the same thing for clans. Keep up the good work, sir.

[@count4045]

Too bad you're not pumping more of those videos. You're obviously, and easily, the best youtuber talking about Old Wold of Darkness lore. Music, text, editing, everything is there. Bring more of the darkness knowledge to the world.

[@adopipiska6828]

I was looking forward to this so much!

[@dunathon9279]

Thank you so much! I've been looking forward to this video for a good half year now, since a friend showed me your other work on the World of Darkness!

[@skeletonking4119]

I wish you would’ve return sir! You done an awesome job which I learn a lots form you.

[@gustavmetal]

Glad to see these videos back, thank you very much for your effort. Just one thing, I think volumen on the background music might be a bit loud, so it´s a bit to hear you

[@vasilkalov2622]

I hope we see the next part soon. Realy loved the vid.

[@moadbasel2244]

I have been waiting for this

[@Chill-mm4pn]

Loving these videos, thanks for taking the time to make them.

[@benvalle8253]

Love your oWoD content

[@overzealousaoc7361]

Glad your back

[@VINI247]

Great content, please keep it up.

[@jessih.6593]

A really good video! Thank you, this helped me a lot with my upcoming VtM campaign

[@StoopidSnot]

Fantastic, thank you so much for the vid!

[@soundofspace8026]

looking forward to the next one ^^

[@bambiparsons4293]

I am really impressed on your knowledge of the clans

[@demonicterror4528]

Love this keep it up!

[@chickenbonelives]

Make some more please! I just watched them all and your videos are great! It's a plus that you're not using a hack British accent like many of the other vampire fans 😂

[@lolared9636]

Still waiting for a movie or tv series based on the game and this brilliant world............need..a...good...vamp...movie.

[@lucaspenades]

There is a series. It sucks

[@DarknessProphet]

I found Kindred ok, but the first episode was forgettable if anything.

[@schwann145]

Interview is probably the best we'll ever get, but I'm happy to be proven wrong 😅

[@hitekalchemy1105]

@@schwann145 Interview With a Vampire? That wasn't based on WoD.

[@schwann145]

@@hitekalchemy1105 No, but VtM heavily borrowed from Anne Rice, so kinda sorta related ish

[@yellowbelt]

This is awesome! Way more respect for the sabbat now.

[@--Nemesis]

Im very glad the Sabbat is still around in 5th edition. Even though it seems like there is a civil war soon... Oh well. My new Lasombra character has a crusade to fulfill!

[@cybervisionproject]

please do part 2!

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

Sabbat was born out of disgust towards a convention that returned things to the way they were before, and I can't say I blame it for being pissed over a lack of proper negotiations.

[@AngelCakes1997]

Everyone: oWoD is Old World of Darkness Me: oWo

[@AAllen-br8it]

How dare you.

[@nasir6r996]

Please more vids?

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

Love your work.

[@jeevesosiris]

Great video

[@arkindal]

Hope you'll see this but I was wondering if you're planning to make more. I love the owod and I was showing your first video to my SO to introduce her to it.

[@ValtroileIzolda]

Why I have always played Sabbat games, is that it's the most complex sect, playing which raises the toughest questions. And, btw, with a right atmosphere, Sabbat games turn into a proper psychological thriller instead of a Rob Zombie movie the elitist Camarilla players love to scoff at so often. Sabbat games are the best because they are the most challenging and demanding both from ST and the players not to overstep that Edge where a tragedy turns into a farce. In terms of the power of emotions and self-reflection they invoke they almost reach Wraith: The Oblivion levels.

[@blightagent4430]

Awesome!

[@timkuefer1523]

Sabbat Part 2 please! You should also use some music out of Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines in your vids :)

[@whitecreamymilk8436]

So what youre saying is sabbat are what anarchs pose as?

[@Marten_Broadcloak]

They're the original Anarchs.

[@Cumquat88]

Your music is drowning you out. I can barely hear a thing your saying.

[@timkuefer1523]

cmon its not that bad, i bet he will do better in the future regarding the audio, but the content is epic!

[@snazzy1637]

Agreed but I hope he's a bit more active than he has been.

[@lucaspenades]

I hear perfectly well, maybe you need to adjust your mixer or headphones

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

Your channel is really great. Creep here.

[@danielplainview8759]

Finally!!!

[@moadbasel2244]

What do you think about the vtmb 2?

[@jbeattie1244]

Some questions for u ? 1)are u a fan of camarilla ? Sabbat ? Inconu ? 2)what is ur clan of choice ? 3) i love ur videos an i think u should do a podcast for i could listen to u as a st for u have a intresting accent where u from ? Me am a scottish / irish hybrid

[@marcolotorto2494]

Really good video! But you forgot to include Orthodoxs inside the factions!

[@dojoisdead]

Dude thank you so much. This is so fucking helpful

[@clerickolter]

The music is very loud I can't hear you very much less is more in this case.

[@Noxims47314]

Humanity had its moments....back when i was Kine, Now though....I am Cainite.

[@soulcharmer2012]

FYI, you keep mixing up children of Seth and Followers of Set. Those are two completely different characters.

[@istanaqueen4422]

Charlie Manson & crew :)

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

I agree with the Sabbat: I'd rather NOT be part of some Antediluvian's afternoon snack.

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

WHAT? 7 dislikes?! The Sabbat is on the hunt.

[@PaulArena75]

the background music.....geeez...turn it off!!!

[@BlueBedouin]

I like it

[@shaftlamer]

Dafuq is that music

[@margaritoamapolo4891]

music volume down your voice volume up... it is called background music for something.

[@christofromuald703]

Humanity is overrated the paths are cool.

[@sapphyx26]

Within the first minute: "to which they belong to" Teach someone proper grammar and preposition usage. /facepalm