It's patronising to say people only buy or believe things due to influencers, argues Ruby Granger

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@penultimateh766
@penultimateh766 8 ай бұрын
I'm actually really impressed that she didn't even pitch this on her own channel. A very sweet lady and a class act.
@julialovesgfriend
@julialovesgfriend 8 ай бұрын
I’m exploding with pride seeing Ruby speak!
@spaceandust
@spaceandust 7 ай бұрын
@phoebecaulfield4062 womp womp
@emaane.i1455
@emaane.i1455 7 ай бұрын
​@phoebecaulfield4062 I'm not sure this is a fair response.
@richardduplessis1090
@richardduplessis1090 7 ай бұрын
@@emaane.i1455 maybe post again when you've made up your mind?
@teainortakoy
@teainortakoy 8 ай бұрын
Proud of our Ruby - Ruby Granger channel fans unite!
@andina5269
@andina5269 8 ай бұрын
I am so proud of you, Ruby. I watched you for about 6 years already on your KZbin channel. Great work!
@lucy8196
@lucy8196 8 ай бұрын
Crikey I’m so so proud of her - I always knew she was well spoken, but this is the definition of eloquent! Beautifully spoken, I can only dream of being this good at speaking! This topic needs so much more discussion, thank you for opening up the conversation ❤
@jernjustyle
@jernjustyle 7 ай бұрын
⁠@phoebecaulfield4062 i think she is not a English native speaker.Rudy’s accent perhaps seems elegant to her.As I am an English beginner,I would like to thanks for teaching me two new words,antithesis(N) and eloquent(adj) :)
@lucy8196
@lucy8196 7 ай бұрын
@phoebecaulfield4062 you give a speech like she did, and then comment on how many times she said “um”.
@ceoiku7282
@ceoiku7282 6 ай бұрын
@phoebecaulfield4062 You come across as profoundly covetous.
@ceoiku7282
@ceoiku7282 6 ай бұрын
@phoebecaulfield4062 The data is the extent of comments you have been replying to, insulting someone who YOU know nothing about. That's slightly hypocritical imo.
@Tams1978
@Tams1978 4 ай бұрын
@@jernjustyleShe was born in England and has spoken English her whole life.
@LittleDreamer1412
@LittleDreamer1412 8 ай бұрын
I am proud of Ruby, you can tell that she was nervous but the only time I had to give a speech in front of an audience in school, I nearly fainted so that's that.
@mr.goodytwoshoes4915
@mr.goodytwoshoes4915 6 ай бұрын
Hi ruby! I would like to say that I am so proud in saying u there! I'm overflowing with so much pride seeing u speak
@psychology4introverts
@psychology4introverts 8 ай бұрын
Ruby hit the nail on the head. What an extraordinarily important point to raise!
@KB-bx9ui
@KB-bx9ui 8 ай бұрын
This is brilliant, Ruby! 👏👏👏 Your confidence flourished after a few minutes, and you truly made and established your argument. Well done commenting and questioning why we are focusing on the influencing of influencers, rather than institutions etc. Bloomin awesome! Have a magical day Ruby! And FYI Oxford...you choose an incredible person to be a student, Ruby is a student who demonstrates what Oxford is made to foster!
@billoddy5637
@billoddy5637 8 ай бұрын
Ruby has more moral authority than the University of Oxford itself
@richardduplessis1090
@richardduplessis1090 8 ай бұрын
When David Beckham had his silly haircut back in the mid 90's, half the kids at primary school insisted to their parents that they wanted the same haircut. Influential figures are emulated by their fans. That's the power of endorsement and advertising.
@TerrorTerros
@TerrorTerros 8 ай бұрын
You are being "hugely patronizing"
@richardduplessis1090
@richardduplessis1090 8 ай бұрын
@@TerrorTerros Really? Im stating the obvious. Product placement in Bond films testifies to this phenomenon also. Wear the watch Bond wears, drink the whisky he drinks (30yr old Macallum by the way). Why do you think advertisers use film stars and sports icons to promote their products?
@TerrorTerros
@TerrorTerros 8 ай бұрын
@@richardduplessis1090 🥰you're adorable
@richardduplessis1090
@richardduplessis1090 8 ай бұрын
@@TerrorTerros That's very nice of you 🥰🍾
@omg9261
@omg9261 8 ай бұрын
IKR? When Kim Kardashian became popular in Instagram, millions of girls and women rushed to the gims and started to work on their gluttal muscles. And before that, almost nobody cared about that part of the body. Being a 33 y.o woman I remember the times when heroin chic and extremely skinny women were considered the most beautiful and perfect. Giselle Bundchen and Snejana Onopka were the epitome of beauty. Everyone was on a diet and smoking considered a normal part of the diet.
@paulac.munoztorres
@paulac.munoztorres 8 ай бұрын
I really love and look up to this lady. I’ve been watching her for a fee years and growing alongside her. She is an inspiration and force of motion for other you g women like myself and a reminder of how necessary and precious education is.
@Chl4e
@Chl4e 8 ай бұрын
Shocked that she mentioned Eugenia Cooney this is so true, well done Ruby ! I love the fact that you are exposing facts here 🎉
@amandas.9116
@amandas.9116 8 ай бұрын
Well done Ruby. It’s very difficult to do public debating and to do this in a filmed Oxford Union, the pressure is immense! Let’s remember her age, she did great and will learn so much from this experience.
@teddycutler1
@teddycutler1 8 ай бұрын
It's a 'debate' in name only, she had to deliver a rehearsed speech - much easier. And she did it terribly.
@niamhdonnellan7752
@niamhdonnellan7752 8 ай бұрын
Well said, she will learn and grow from this, putting herself out there and taking chances, she is brave and will go places!
@TheHawki235
@TheHawki235 8 ай бұрын
@@teddycutler1do it yourself in Oxford then teddy
@teddycutler1
@teddycutler1 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHawki235 You can only critique if you've done the thing yourself is a child's argument.
@abcdefgzywvutsr_
@abcdefgzywvutsr_ 6 ай бұрын
​@@teddycutler1for someone named teddy, you talk a lot
@ananyadutta1154
@ananyadutta1154 8 ай бұрын
I just subscribed to OxfordUnion because of Ruby's attainment of a place in their house, proving Ruby right.
@guillaumedesaint-quentin887
@guillaumedesaint-quentin887 8 ай бұрын
That is an amazing comment!
@chaymaenadir1489
@chaymaenadir1489 8 ай бұрын
you did exactly what she been arguing not to
@Potbellypigg
@Potbellypigg 7 ай бұрын
You did the opposite of what she was arguing
@youtubelurker8120
@youtubelurker8120 7 ай бұрын
no bestie, you proved her wrong
@EllysCosmos
@EllysCosmos 8 ай бұрын
Who the hack has to cough non stop jeeeez leave the room !! Great Job Ruby ❤
@vanessaodua2815
@vanessaodua2815 8 ай бұрын
I'm so proud of you Ruby ❤❤❤❤❤❤ There are no words to explain my joy for you.
@clichepuffoodie
@clichepuffoodie 8 ай бұрын
So proud of her! I've been watching Ruby's channela nd constantly being motivated by her and comforted by her through many year!
@PumpkinMozie
@PumpkinMozie 8 ай бұрын
Ruby did a great job! She made some great points. I do think I would somewhat argue against her on some parts though. Advertising is so insidious these days and even takes advantage of the way our brains work, and for that reason I don’t think it’s patronizing to say that influencers can play a huge part in consumer’s choices. It’s hard to keep our autonomy when there are powerful and intelligent corporations actively working to take it away from us and influencers are very often accomplices in that. Obviously i like Ruby and I think she is a positive influence on the internet overall, but it’s important to acknowledge that most influencers push products on their audiences that the audience doesn’t need, and because we form a parasocial relationship with them, we feel like we can trust them and therefore are very likely to fall for the gimmick.
@SeerOfTime577
@SeerOfTime577 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations, Ruby! You did a fantastic job!
@shiela.7927
@shiela.7927 8 ай бұрын
So proud of you, Ruby! I loved learning and studying because of you.
@catherine5128
@catherine5128 8 ай бұрын
Wow I've been watching Ruby since she was in sixth form (so about 6 years!) - and this has me in absolute pieces! To see her development over the years, gosh I'm beaming with pride!
@zixiong681
@zixiong681 8 ай бұрын
I'm a huge fan of ruby, and although this wasn't the best performance I think she's capable of, I'm still incredibly proud of her. Delivery and coherency of the argument obviously needs practice but it's saddening to see everyone criticizing her and implying that she's just trying to cover herself from criticism solely from selfishness, or that she's just 'looking for an east payday' like someone has said. I may be biased towards her, but it is objectively of poor taste to assume things about a person and to think that you can hide behind the anonymity of social media to disrespect someone, no matter if they're Ruby Granger or a random Karen, influencer or not.
@ShivaniSharma-kk3hk
@ShivaniSharma-kk3hk 8 ай бұрын
I am so immensely proud of you Ruby. Beaming with joy!
@limeparticle
@limeparticle 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think anyone’s claimed that influencers are forcing people to buy the stuff they endorse. Ruby is trying to deflect any responsibility off herself and other influencers by trying to make it an argument about the autonomy of the audience, which it is not and never has been. It’s a question of influence. The argument she presents lacks nuance and sounds more like an attempt at defending herself, complete with whataboutism around the 7:30 mark. Oh dear.
@dsodragus4616
@dsodragus4616 8 ай бұрын
She doesn't have to deflect any responsibility off herself because everything starts and ends with the audience/consumers. The influencers are nothing but a mirror of society. Influencers are magnets and they attract same-minded individuals therefore selling the product is mostly not the result of influencers actually convincing people to buy the products it is bought by the audience because the audience usually have the same interest as the given influencer or the same values/goals or intellect. So it can be all boiled down to this: Most of the products that are being sold by influencers or with promotion by influencers are tightly connected to the given niche of the channel. So if people watch a channel about gaming and then they are gonna buy let's say, a keyboard that their KZbinr promotes. *Is it really the influencer influence that convinced them or is it just natural consumerism and need for the product that a given person had already an interest in before listening to the influencer?* I can go now and watch Kim Kardashian and even if she had had some promotion on her Instagram/videos I still 100% wouldn't buy it because her influence is pointless on me because I do not share the same interests as her. So her promoting make-up to me is pointless but for a 14-year-old girl is doable. But then again IMPORTANT POINT. Was the influence of the influence role or just the audience find the person with the same interest and naturally wants the same products???
@Aigra
@Aigra 8 ай бұрын
@@dsodragus4616 Influencers normalize consumerism. It has nothing to do with convincing or even forcing. Look into how the mere exposure effect works. You "naturally" want the products because you have seen the products countless times which leads to a more positive opinion of the product and of course the product is just considered normal, as in of course you're going to buy it. Doesn't everyone?
@dsodragus4616
@dsodragus4616 8 ай бұрын
@@Aigra Yep that's partially correct but that has nothing to do with influencers. Or to be more clear even if influencers didn't have any platform the amount of products sold wouldn't have dramatically downfall. Perhaps the sales would be more evenly spread across companies. Influencers are just a tool to target audiences and as you said correctly make products more familiar to the general public. But there are way more efficient tools and strategies to sell your product better. One that every single major company uses is to drive out your competition and you are a king of the jungle. If you are the only bakery in the town you don't need ads, influencers or anything. That's why this debate is seriously so odd because it is such a ridiculous wide generalization that it's impossible to make any real argument. You know saying: "Influencers normalize consumerism" - that is a very general statement. How is let's say some influencer who is promoting a primitive simple life in the woods promoting consumerism? In reality, the truth is on both sides. Have a nice day :)
@Aigra
@Aigra 8 ай бұрын
@@dsodragus4616 "How is let's say some influencer who is promoting a primitive simple life in the woods promoting consumerism?" There's another part of that debate where the term "influencer" is defined and that person probably wouldn't qualify. Unless you count the platform that is hosting their content and that is targeting the viewers with ads of course. Because the reality is, even if you yourself stay away from promoting a consumerist lifestyle in your content, the second you upload it and agree to the TOS of that platform what the platform does with it is not in your control anymore.
@justahugenerd1278
@justahugenerd1278 3 ай бұрын
Yeah and also you can be an intelligent, rational person but still be influenced. I heard someone say something like "everyone could be part of a cult if the cult found the particular thing that person is vulnerable to". IMO it's even more dangerous to think that you can't be influenced just because you're not a "sheep" or whatever. But either way, yes I agree. I think it's a strawman to claim that anyone is forcing people to buy things, but rather, well, influencing. As someone else in this comment section pointed out, normalization is the biggest way in which they do this: normalizing huge hauls, big purchases, and other sorts of spending that could bankrupt an average person. Especially since many influencers don't make it obvious that they're getting a lot of these items for free or buying them but then getting way more money back. But don't forget that there are influencers in multiple areas: maybe you're not vulnerable to makeup influencers, but you could be vulnerable to travel influencers or food influencers, for example. At the end of the day, it's more important to recognize that you can be vulnerable and then take active measures to guard yourself against it, than think that "oh it's only certain people that are vulnerable to it" and then find yourself one day falling vulnerable to an ad or scam.
@nadineebada6557
@nadineebada6557 7 ай бұрын
i’ve been watching ruby since her GCSE and A-level days!! i remember clearly watching her oxford rejection video and now seeing her thriving at oxford and listening to her speak is AMAZING she’s such an inspiration
@user-qh8nh7oe6d
@user-qh8nh7oe6d 4 ай бұрын
Very inspiring!
@dianelipson5420
@dianelipson5420 2 ай бұрын
This woman is someone to watch. She will make glorious, healthy, compassionate waves.
@BlackPearlMinistries
@BlackPearlMinistries 8 ай бұрын
Influencing is the modern term for advertising. Making a product is a business. To survive as a business you need people to buy your product. You get them to do that by showing them and persuading them to buy your thing. We have many more outlets on how to reach consumers now though. We are literally bombarded with ads and sales. My Starbucks app entices me to order more by offering promotions, but do I always, no.
@alisonmorcavallo9650
@alisonmorcavallo9650 2 сағат бұрын
She is such a sweet and pure soul, so proud of our Ruby 💕
@kelmasaraiva2546
@kelmasaraiva2546 8 ай бұрын
Great refletion about power. Congratulations, Ruby!
@SpatialandTemporal
@SpatialandTemporal 8 ай бұрын
How does she think advertising works and why would they spend millions of dollars on celebrities to hawk products if it makes no difference? A bit naive if you ask me.
@emptyness7
@emptyness7 8 ай бұрын
She didn't say that influence doesn't exist o that it makes no difference, she's saying that it doesn't control us. And that influencers are democratizing information.
@SpatialandTemporal
@SpatialandTemporal 8 ай бұрын
@@emptyness7 Depends what you consider information or knowledge, they could also be democratising falsehoods. It's uncharted territory as previously you had to be in front of a TV to see advertisements. Now they are pervasive and many influencers are not even declaring they have a financial interest in the outcome.
@jessk7240
@jessk7240 8 ай бұрын
Spot on. It's almost unbelievably naïve not to see that influencers are advertising in a far more powerful way. And I totally agree about the democratising of lies, which is only becoming more powerful with AI in the mix. @@SpatialandTemporal
@ortalgeller7895
@ortalgeller7895 8 ай бұрын
So, 9 and a half minutes are not enough to talk about this issue. In addition it's hard to judge this argument withou hearinh the previous one. However, I think there is one point missing here, and it is the algorithm. It's important because: 1, influencers are not as genuine as they used to be. Many of them openly talk about feeling forced to put out content they don't really like just to please an algorithm they do not fully understand. So we do have patrons today, but they're invisible and therfore impossible to negotiate with. 2, there is way too much content on social media to be managed. So people are not being influenced by a simple influence, but by one that is never ending and usually is a far more complex movement. 3, the algorithm abuses our psychological weaknesses. It manipulates us to a point we do lose our ability to even recognize influences
@VivaciousLyla
@VivaciousLyla 8 ай бұрын
as a content creator, i wholeheartedly agree with you and these points are brilliant!
@mhence7
@mhence7 7 ай бұрын
Agree! I also thought of algorithms
@MoldingMatty
@MoldingMatty 7 ай бұрын
I’d actually argue that in reference to the first point at least when comparing the 2000s or even the 2010s to the 2020s the very act of being able to share that you are uncomfortable with what your job is or that the sponsors you have may not be as incredible as suggested is a mark of genuineness. The idea that content creators speaking about not wanting to make content now means that the ones in the past were more genuine or enjoyed their craft more is unfounded because it’s only recently that the backlash for such statements was insignificant enough for them to actually speak up. Immigrants now are a lot more vocal about their desire to go home and struggles finding safe spaces because it’s no longer a social no no, but the past immigrants did have those same desires even if they weren’t vocal about it. So I think that the capacity to share genuine feelings does not mean that they were not there initially but rather that content creation is coming to the point that you actually see the person and not just their persona.
@samantahernandez7928
@samantahernandez7928 6 күн бұрын
Awwww to see her here! I'm speechless, so happy for Ruby.
@carolinamarin7436
@carolinamarin7436 8 ай бұрын
So well done Ruby!!! Rooting for you!!
@jordanmackenzie3267
@jordanmackenzie3267 8 ай бұрын
What an amazing and well spoken speech! So so amazing to discuss these points in today’s day and age
@linawu1219
@linawu1219 8 ай бұрын
so proud of you Ruby❤
@carrotcake6987
@carrotcake6987 7 ай бұрын
This is funny because I’ve definitely bought things just because of Ruby 😭
@AntoniyaYankova
@AntoniyaYankova 8 ай бұрын
I sorta disagree with her statement that people do not buy things because influencers told them to and that thinking this way we assume they don't have autonomy and that it's usually kids who do that. What I can agree with is that this is cultural. In Bulgaria kids and teenagers DO follow trends because they compare with other people around them and they want to be relevant and avoid getting made fun of. Once we leave school, though this stops. We no longer care what others think and we are more capable of making wise choices and often that is led by having no money to be trendy. Considering most trendy stuff are expensive. We look for knock offs and alternatives. Whereas in the US the consumerism persists beyond High School and I have noticed that parents are the ones who teach their children to be trendy. Exhibit A) little girls (5-12) going to Sephora for make up. All of them are brought by their parents who spend their own money for things their children don't need. Exhibit B. Stanley cups. They all know they are not special and that they leak. However, they buy bulks because they are trendy and they are not hiding it. As soon as another influencer came up with another cup, most kids and adults finally admitted the Stanleys are trash and now are buying the other cup. Exhibit C. Booktok. Most books that are being thrown in our faces are low quality romance books or dark romance that make no sense. Everyone freaks over them and people buy them because everyone is reading THAT book. People lie about how many books they read and do hauls because other booktokers do it. People nowadays are simply programmed to be trendy. For me that's not a good reason to buy a product. P.S why did no one throw out this coughing guy
@billoddy5637
@billoddy5637 8 ай бұрын
Coughing is not against Oxford Union etiquette, it seems
@mitzloo1933
@mitzloo1933 7 ай бұрын
I think you have a very blinkered view of the US if you think that the consumerism you see through social media represents the US as a whole.
@222o-u3t
@222o-u3t 6 ай бұрын
@@billoddy5637britain has a massive problem with people young and old spewing germs everywhere like this, it’s so grim! should’ve seen what they were doing during the pandemic instead of wearing masks…
@susiesunbeam
@susiesunbeam 7 ай бұрын
Oh dear.
@soilgrasswaterair
@soilgrasswaterair 8 ай бұрын
I really like Ruby’s KZbin content, but it would have served her well to have more knowledge about psychology. Even since they started with commercials research has been made to see what triggers people to spend their money. Even children can be manipulated by placing colorful things at their level in the stores. These things are there due to strategy and knowledge about the human psyche. With this said! People have a responsibility on their own, so you can’t just say ” the influencers made me but it”.
@emmierusso404
@emmierusso404 8 ай бұрын
her argument isn't super strong, but I really enjoyed the various links and commentaries she pulled from the discussion- she's the sort of student I'd love to have a seminar with.
@diariesofacriticalthinker
@diariesofacriticalthinker 8 ай бұрын
There „is no point in listing the ways that influencers have had a positive impact - I don’t think that would be a productive use of this time.“ is not exactly a sound working premise for the type of argument that is meant to be advanced… more so than anything this is a point against… Of course, influence can be exerted in positive or negative ways. However, to influence young people into buying things they don’t actually need and they themselves have not paid for, is hugely problematic. You cannot refer to yourself as an „influencer“ whilst arguing that the profit you are making is purely based on free will. And people such as Ruby Granger DO have a very young audience - which may lead one to question as for why she did apparently never consider the responsibility that comes with what she is doing. She advertised some dodgy snake oil in one of her recent videos… which is rather concerning.
@jakecavendish3470
@jakecavendish3470 8 ай бұрын
I really don't understand why arguing the case she is there to argue "wouldn't be a productive use of time." Isn't that the only reason she is there? If you don't list the positive aspects then you have no hope of countering the argument that the influence being exerted is largely negative, autonomy is the worst possible way of arguing the point because the premise of the argument she is countering is that a lot of the information being given by influencers is often _wrong_ and therefore undermines autonomy
@wildly_alice3437
@wildly_alice3437 8 ай бұрын
what snake oil are you referring to? her most recent sponsors are VPNs, an e-reader app, skillshare and a deodorant company. all relevant for her audience, most of whom are students. if you engage with any of her content you can see she is deeply aware of her responsibility to her audience - her channel promotes studying, mindfulness, and veganism - she's hardly sending children to their doom. she's doing business while in university.
@Fiorellandia
@Fiorellandia 8 ай бұрын
I will never forget her advertising a leather backpack while being vegan.
@ticketyboo2456
@ticketyboo2456 8 ай бұрын
You have demonstrated with your poorly formed argument why you are in the comment section and not speaking at the Oxford Union😂
@jakecavendish3470
@jakecavendish3470 8 ай бұрын
@@Fiorellandia 💀
@teddycutler1
@teddycutler1 8 ай бұрын
So influencing isn't that bad because a) people should be able to deconstruct the term and see it for the cynical enterprise it is and b) there are worse things elsewhere. B) is clearly ridiculous, but a) is worse because it disproves at a stroke the entire argument.
@gabyberron1916
@gabyberron1916 8 ай бұрын
I’m so so proud of Ruby, I’ve grown up with her by watching her videos and she has been a huge inspiration to me! I’m so happy to see her achieving her dreams 🤎
@Ma-official_
@Ma-official_ 7 ай бұрын
If the earth needed to be evacuated due to impending doom like an asteroid, influencers should be left behind.
@fiorellayturregui4387
@fiorellayturregui4387 8 ай бұрын
I've been following Ruby for about four years and I think she needs to improve her debate skills a little more. My comment is constructive, not destructive, and for that reason I think that she should read less and look more towards the public, have greater power of conviction. She is still a student and will improve with time.
@VideosOfRandomContext
@VideosOfRandomContext 8 ай бұрын
She’s still hella good tho imo
@CURTAINS_
@CURTAINS_ 7 ай бұрын
I mean she is at Oxford which is a great place to develop her skill
@PineappleOnPizza69
@PineappleOnPizza69 10 күн бұрын
she's not for debating though. I bet she'll excell in another field. Literature has been her thing like what she always show in her channel
@lolismile7326
@lolismile7326 8 ай бұрын
You are doing very well Ruby. Congratulations! This is a big step✨🙌🏻✨ 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@nosiphodube9651
@nosiphodube9651 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations Ruby ❤🎉
@wonderwoman5528
@wonderwoman5528 8 ай бұрын
I would developed severe social anxiety if I knew everything I did was judged to the nth degree
@lapoetique
@lapoetique 8 ай бұрын
yeah people should chill smh, let her live
@AmandaHoranGoBookYourself
@AmandaHoranGoBookYourself 8 ай бұрын
As an influencer she's hardly unbiased
@eniksan86
@eniksan86 8 ай бұрын
Really good to watch while having your say. You will make a difference ruby.
@Sulynn_RG-52.
@Sulynn_RG-52. 8 ай бұрын
I'd like to see whether she was reading verbatim from her notes or whether she had bullet pointsfor her main ideas. Makes a lot of difference to your delivery. I used to belong to the Debating Society at school and it is not easy to stand up before a lotof people and give n eloquent argument😮
@billoddy5637
@billoddy5637 8 ай бұрын
Being part of debate club at school for a year was the best decision I ever made. (I was more of a scientist, who knew nothing about politics, but boy was it worth it)
@thisjourneywecalllife3604
@thisjourneywecalllife3604 2 күн бұрын
Omg, this is so interesting!
@AO2437.
@AO2437. 8 ай бұрын
So proud of seeing you on this Ruby! Followed you on KZbin for years (and still do)!
@zaaratahreem1821
@zaaratahreem1821 8 ай бұрын
Being an old subscriber of her ❤its really an ecstatic moment to see her in this video
@billoddy5637
@billoddy5637 8 ай бұрын
I agree that this wasn’t the best delivered speech of the evening. But the argument she presents halfway, about influencers democratising information, is BY FAR the most valuable argument of the night. It highlights the very purpose of this KZbin channel: to give freedom of speech a global outreach. This house does not regret the rise of influencers. This house OWES its success to the rise of influencers. I only regret to not have commented sooner. Thank you Ruby Granger for putting the argument forward. P.S: In the spirit of this speech, I beg you to pressure the Oxford Union to invite Robert F. Kennedy Jr to speak before November.
@martinezanamaria26
@martinezanamaria26 14 сағат бұрын
Wow ruby is using her gift to provide social change ❤ im so proud of her
@janehoang6063
@janehoang6063 8 ай бұрын
OMG I love you Ruby, I am soooo in love with your confidence your fluency
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID 8 ай бұрын
… and her ability to read everything from an I-pad and wave her hand about constantly.
@mamoonaa79
@mamoonaa79 8 ай бұрын
I feel influencers have so much power. They are who we watch, read and listen to
@cuppajavaplease
@cuppajavaplease 8 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness, well done! I won't even go into the importance and relevance of your topic. That was stated well and seems very clear to me. I want to applaud your composure and delivery.
@scaryspider365
@scaryspider365 8 ай бұрын
Why is the person in between the boxes look like she has run away from a Miss World competition?
@belwynne1386
@belwynne1386 8 ай бұрын
I didn’t think Ms World, but I thought she was dressed unprofessionally and inappropriately.
@annaviola3392
@annaviola3392 8 ай бұрын
@@belwynne1386 These are students, not professionals and they’d be going to black tie gala dinner after this. Regardless, are we still passing judgment on how women choose to dress?
@allisongracehall5457
@allisongracehall5457 8 ай бұрын
Great job, Ruby! Keep at it!
@Mia-sb1bb
@Mia-sb1bb 8 ай бұрын
This feels like such a full circle moment, so proud of her
@Theleague0fshad0ws
@Theleague0fshad0ws 7 күн бұрын
My word the woman in the silver dress looks phenomenal! Well done on your speech, Ruby.
@DragonHeart29
@DragonHeart29 8 ай бұрын
After witnessing the outrageous manipulation and propaganda of mainstream media just in the past few months, it doesn't surprise me that the "influence" of social media is being addressed more often. It wasn't that urgent when capitalism was benefitting. But now that it showed its potential to "sabotage" capitalism and the mainstream narrative, it became of major concern. Everything is political and this is a very political debate. I think the young lady here made a good point when it comes to autonomy and the "democracy of media".
@HD41117
@HD41117 8 ай бұрын
Hell yes. Very well said.
@ishiichannn
@ishiichannn 8 ай бұрын
From watching rubys vlogs to seeing her here 💕my heart melts
@katie12x
@katie12x 8 ай бұрын
Of course she'd place the onus on the viewer though, she's an influencer..
@aimeelykinslawson1693
@aimeelykinslawson1693 8 ай бұрын
Geez, some of these comments are just mean . There is a difference between criticisms and being rude .
@guillaumedesaint-quentin887
@guillaumedesaint-quentin887 8 ай бұрын
It’s much worse than that. Some accounts have actually been following Ruby around, leaving hate messages, and hacking some of my comments. If you notice it too, could you please report them for harassment. Thx The worst of all is (@AndNowISitInSilence)
@abcdefgzywvutsr_
@abcdefgzywvutsr_ 6 ай бұрын
I know right
@parmeetkaursaini
@parmeetkaursaini 10 күн бұрын
I have been watching her since 2019 and i feel soo proud of her She inspires me everyday and gives me that push i need
@elizabethb9702
@elizabethb9702 8 ай бұрын
I really like ruby but I didn’t really get a thing of what she was “arguing”, this was a heartless conversation with herself 😅
@billoddy5637
@billoddy5637 8 ай бұрын
She was arguing that Influencer influence can be dangerous. But that corporate and especially government influence can be FAR MORE dangerous!
@teddycutler1
@teddycutler1 8 ай бұрын
Few people would disagree with that, but it's nothing to do with the motion.@@billoddy5637
@nixicole4311
@nixicole4311 8 ай бұрын
so proud of her, she helped me to get back into reading books
@BonnieDragonKat
@BonnieDragonKat 5 ай бұрын
Way to go Ruby!!!!❤ A job well done!
@veroronnieronron
@veroronnieronron 8 ай бұрын
This is an incredibly high-pressured situation. These are students and they are all improving their debating skills.
@jacquelinemaria2902
@jacquelinemaria2902 8 ай бұрын
I feel her shyness and fear...she says "umm" a lot.
@musikhamster01
@musikhamster01 7 ай бұрын
I get the nervousness but the „uhms“ make it harder to follow 😬
@sharleanmahabir6936
@sharleanmahabir6936 8 ай бұрын
Well done Ruby!
@pialopez2835
@pialopez2835 6 ай бұрын
Great job Ruby! You did amazing!!
@sebasthian_serrano
@sebasthian_serrano 7 ай бұрын
very proud of you, Ruby!😊
@CharlotteTaylorr
@CharlotteTaylorr 8 ай бұрын
I think it's interesting, given the debate topic, how many more views this video has received compared to others on the channel just because it has Ruby in it
@laodesyukur
@laodesyukur 8 ай бұрын
Good speech... Keep youtube channel looks better again, yours.... Be kind always...🌐🇬🇧❤
@tahirajaffry7289
@tahirajaffry7289 3 ай бұрын
She has such a soothing and soft voice... Ruby granger❤
@arielwinter8238
@arielwinter8238 6 ай бұрын
I can't believe I haven't watched this video
@nataliemariex
@nataliemariex 8 ай бұрын
great speech!
@ha06_0
@ha06_0 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE RUBBY SO MUCH!!! THE ONLY REASON I SUBSCRIBED OXFORDUNION IS HER!
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID 8 ай бұрын
Rubby? Who they?
@yvettem.holland5072
@yvettem.holland5072 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations, Ruby! Great to see you here! I'm one of your subscribers 😊
@user-zp5jf2wn4r
@user-zp5jf2wn4r 2 күн бұрын
Go RUBY!
@emmavalentine7649
@emmavalentine7649 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful, Ruby! ❤
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID 8 ай бұрын
Good to see the adoring sycophantic fan club are having such a great time.
@amandanunezbatista3214
@amandanunezbatista3214 8 ай бұрын
How i admire you Ruby!❤️
@jiji.1038
@jiji.1038 8 ай бұрын
I feel so proud as well as grateful 🥺🥺
@allyjordan5730
@allyjordan5730 8 ай бұрын
Yay Ruby!!!! ❤
@lu.luxxie
@lu.luxxie 8 ай бұрын
The first part of this argument focused on the democracy of social media and how it allows people to share ideas and elicit their own influence, specifically those who formerly could not do so, is great food for thought. I think the important point here is that this democracy of social media is opening the floor for those who may have been voiceless and grants them more involvement and visibility in society. The question of the value of influence culture to autonomy is debatable because we can find some easy arguments for both sides. I do question if we lose autonomy by "following" someone and whether or not we consciously or unconsciously put influencers in a position of power. However, it can be far more difficult to question the influence of institutions, government, media, etc. because those apparatuses are not as accessible for the average person to voice their criticisms. Versus the influencer who has a comment section and multiple social media accounts directly linked to them. I don't think the influence of influencers is the most concerning kind, it is the one being debated right now because viewers have direct access to voice their opinions and criticisms on the same platforms as the people who are sharing ideas. It seems because of this proximity we do maintain some autonomy, we can directly question the ideas of influencers, but I'm not sure that we are completely free from the influence those individuals and communities have on how we communicate, think, or act.
@carmenelena6403
@carmenelena6403 8 ай бұрын
Ruby !! Congratulations!
@AndNowIJustSitInSilence
@AndNowIJustSitInSilence 8 ай бұрын
Wanted to watch this but two minutes and 50 "uhm"s later i think it's save to say that this isnt worth anyone's time.
@Kirsten_is_cursed10
@Kirsten_is_cursed10 8 ай бұрын
Maybe you’re just not a very good listener
@starr6198
@starr6198 8 ай бұрын
Killed it, Ruby! So proud of you!
@lostaj7287
@lostaj7287 8 ай бұрын
Ruby!! So proud😊😊
@sumaya6785
@sumaya6785 5 ай бұрын
so so proud of you Ruby.
@johanna6524
@johanna6524 8 ай бұрын
We love Ruby so much!❤❤❤🎉
@mariaislam9390
@mariaislam9390 7 ай бұрын
I'm feeling proud.
@CleverCrocodile
@CleverCrocodile 7 ай бұрын
Yes Ruby my girl!!
@michael_arcturus
@michael_arcturus 8 ай бұрын
Go Ruby 👏 👏 👏 : )
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