Oxygen Not Included - Plant Tutorial Bites - Bonbon Trees

[@kennethjudecarrera5955]

Ummm...may I point out the title of this tutorial bite? "Oxygen Not Included - Plant Titorial - Bites Bonbon Trees"

[@SIZModig]

Veru naughty of Fungus

[@Davini994]

@@SIZModig I tittered. Then I tutored.

[@aIexemre]

GC might have eaten the wrong kind of fungus before publishing the video

[@GCFungus]

No-one saw that, move along.

[@ewbaite]

You should also mention they free themselves when entombed in snow from meteors

[@pz7510]

note that the nectar they produce is the temperature of the tree, which can be down to the freezing point of the nectar and can be used for some free low effort cooling while being piped to plastic presses e.g.

[@yurisonovab3892]

nectar is such an amazing coolant and is essentially freely harvested wild

[@ProHobbiest]

I agree, it has so many uses as a coolant, and you can turn it into plastic.

[@yurisonovab3892]

@@ProHobbiest and easy sucrose! two wild bonbon trees can feed a grubgrub or five if you keep them glum

[@drosellie2850]

"Fewer trees is better, so domestic trees are typically preferable" I may be wrong, but isn't the only difference between domestic and wild the trunk growing speed? Because both the branch growth and nectar production are light dependent, so if you plant them domestically you're basically paying the snow cost for the rest of your life instead of the one-time purchase of a few extra cycles waiting for the trunk to grow. The only advantage domestic trees have is you can use planter boxes above window tiles to plant trees below, but I personally think it's easier and cheaper to put some extra lights and use more space than to constantly feed them snow

[@roboticgamer8990]

while i haven't tested properly the most efficient way to mass grow wild would probably be to exploit how the branches on the side do not block light and so you could stack the trees vertically potentially over a dozen tall all getting light from the same horizontal slivers of sunlight. you could even put solar panels at the bottom to get power from that same sunlight. the easiest way to plant all of the wild bonbon trees would probably be to exploit how they are randomly planted by meteors and just keep digging them up until they get planted where you want them.

[@DaFreak860]

@@roboticgamer8990 wild-planting them on glass works great as well, since the middle has some light going through too increasing the yield a bit, but you do need a dumb amount of trees to get anything good out of them since their yields are just bad. Francis john has a Oni series where he plays the DLC but without 'spaced out' and you can see at the top right of his map a wild-farm that has them stacked like you suggested.

[@arigatoespacialsuperadmiti7316]

Actually their output will be 4 times lower even if you supply all the light. A domestic makes a max of 80kg per cycle and a wild one will do 20kg. So if you are using mercury lamps you may as well use the domestic ones since they are making more

[@deatho0ne587]

An odd thing about the tree is that if you get the trees to about -70C then the nectar comes out at -70C, meaning it can be used as cooling. So you could make a one aqua-tuner set-up for several trees, then the nectar coming out of the trees could be used for other cooling before going to a polymer press or something else.

[@yurisonovab3892]

fascinating, but wouldn't you need an obscene number of trees to do any meaningful cooling?

[@deatho0ne587]

In theory yes. FJ is running about 90 natural and has excess on one line, so the number could go down, but is using it into a plastic boiler so gets stopped along the way.

[@arigatoespacialsuperadmiti7316]

Or just cool the seeds and gro the plants in a vaccum. Without any enviroment, they won't require cooling as they will never heat up. In fact I also noticed how interesting this can be to get stuff at pretty low temperatures using these trees.

[@yurisonovab3892]

@@arigatoespacialsuperadmiti7316 the light they need will end up heating up a chamber you build and require cooling if you build on the surface, then snow meteors come down at -15 to -25. to get to something like -70 you'll still need cooling

[@marioruiz5758]

What I like to do on ceres is build a long pipe along the space biome hooking all the trees I can. This makes quite a lot of plastic for the midgame with very little cost. Later on you can replace it with glossy dreckos or oil wells, but for steam turbines it's more than enough

[@robinderat]

did this as well. Then when I got better ways to make plastic I started freezing all that nectar for another sustainable ice/water source with the added bonus of sucrose for seal ranching

[@odyx0]

Holy shit the fact that you can make plastic from nectar had zero idea this was added I'm gonna go home tonight and make myself plastic finally as I'm on cycle like 200 and still have zero chance of getting plastic unless this oil biome has some oil which is way harder than using nectar

[@SpottedHares]

It’s space maple syrup

[@vectinator7605]

Like how salt can be crushed into table salt that boosts food quality and adds a little salt shaker. There should be a way to turn it into a drinkable syrup that adds a little syrup bottle to mess tables to boost food quality, syrup and table salt effects should stack to boost food quality by 2.

[@arigatoespacialsuperadmiti7316]

​@@vectinator7605 I tought the same thing. It would also be lovely to be used as food ingredient, or maybe for ice cream or a sweet treat

[@Somebody374-bv8cd]

Shake your bon bon tree. I do like how pipping the tree approximately simulates the way maple trees are tapped for maple sap IRL. Probably worth noting is that these trees can grow in a vacuum, so if you're wild planting you can do it in space for the light.

[@Milko7002]

I recommend using light sensor to automate those mercury lamps.

[@Davini994]

There's a nice one I've seen with the trees at different layers and lamps under the high layer, and the normal lamps above. A little bit more efficiency.

[@jerzyswiecicki4519]

Nectar is amazing. Thanks CG.

[@mechception3180]

Just in time! Im planning on utilizing them for the first time ❤

[@falsehero2001]

Brian Butterfield approves of these trees.

[@odyx0]

This is the one I've been waiting for thank you

[@maxarturo78]

How is the top row of ceiling lights cooled? The space there is closed (10:58) and there are only two sections of radiant tube at the edges.

[@ХлорныйПуффт]

I want to point that BonBon trees are incredible, not only they produce a liquid with a lot of uses, but they produce it with zero cost if managed correctly. On Ceres (where you usually start, but can be any planetoid with no damaging meteor showers or with proper anti-meteor shield) have a low density of light, but it's enough for growing nectar. And in fact trees can chake snow from themself and branches, so nothing stops them from growing. So all requirment like light, snow fertilizer and temperature can be ignored by just planting wild trees on surface in vacuum, as they do not require atmosphere at all. What does it mean? You can spam trees on all possible tiles of surface (and even asteroid), and I mean SPAM. Only things that stop you is making natural tiles and planting by pips. And voila, you have infinite, mass-pructive source of a) nectar b) water c) sucrose d) ethanol from feeding spigots with sucrose.

[@himankgupta4539]

Uhhmm i was looking forward to using those but even i saw how bad they were in my playthrough but the video was great as always

[@xav7311]

One thing i have been thinking about, maybe you could generate a lot of power from these trees using a sour gas boiler? I wild planted three rows of these trees in about half of my planetoid surface with pips and have been using the nectar to generate a lot of plastic. So i have about 300t of plastic right now that i don't have any use for. Maybe i can plug this plastic inside of a sour gas boiler and generate tons of power using literally no input resources whatsoever? Since plastic turns to sour gas at only a bit higher temperature than petroleum i'm thinking it would work with only a few changes to optimize heat transfer to the plastic that is dropped in the boiler. Has this been done by someone in the community already?

[@xav7311]

Going in a bit more detail, i planted the trees in rows using airflow tiles, as they block 0% of the light going through them, i have several rows of normal lamps to light the middle part and provide light in the night, so i get a bit more speed to the nectar production. The lamps are cooled using one atst loop and the tree enclosure is filled with oxygen and tempshift plates to help with cooling (the thingy that transfers heat from pipes even in a vaccum wasn't viable for me, too many lamps). The oxygen is maintained inside the enclosure with a layer of liquid above the airflow tiles in the top.

[@IFTNCW]

I got a Bonbon Seed from the Printing Pod.. I'm not on a planet with Bonbon meteors. Is there any other way to get more seeds? When you harvest either the branches or the trunk, you don't ever get another seed like you do with other plants?

[@yurisonovab3892]

it generates more seeds i don't know the particular rules, but they tend to pile up i believe seals generate more seeds when they feed on the trees

[@scormaq]

Look for "seed duplicator" tutorial if you want to speed up the process of getting more seeds

[@c0ldfury]

You can plant a fraction of a seed and dig it up and get a full seed back.

[@twicethebaka5640]

when a seal drinks from the tree, it has a chance of making a seed, similar to how pips 'forage' arbor seeds. a ranch with 7 wild trees and 4 seals in it (each seal needs 2 trees so they are always hungry) produces about 4-5 seeds perday

[@1killagoku]

For those that may or may not know the flower pot trick/exploit does work on the BonBon Tree, but seals cannot drink from it.

[@arigatoespacialsuperadmiti7316]

Still, the exploit is so strong I refuse to use it profusely.

[@arigatoespacialsuperadmiti7316]

I think a good option is to make in space a farm with wild trees, in top with mesh tiles and robo miners for the meteorites. Some of the light will be provided by the sun (who knows where it comes from lmao) and with automation you can turn on lights in the night or when the sun isn't shining to keep high productivity as in average the sun gives only 55% and making snow is a pain in the ass. I agree that there should be maybe a couple more uses for mercury and also more uses and ways to get, maybe a mercury volcano. Some new uses could be idk, maybe some sort of cooling? Like you spend the mercury to cool stuff as they didn't add any way to cool even if that's the topic of the planet, and surprisingly you'll need to cool your farms sooner and more than regular ones, so I would make mercury coolers for low temps, so steam turbines cool stuff above 125 degrees and mercury keeps things below zero.

[@Davini994]

It feels like there should be a clever way to make snow without the icemaker. I can't find it though.

[@GCFungus]

Maybe if you drip water through very cold temperatures it should turn into snow in midair.

[@Davini994]

@GCFungus this is what I'm thinking. At a maximum drop size or something. I don't think liquids change temp when falling at present. I tried this and it didn't work.

[@theanyktos]

Hi, do you have any plans to cover the new bionic booster pack? As tutorial bites or even just a lets play? I'd love to hear what you think

[@c0ldfury]

Shame there's not renewable source of mercury in the base game, they completely neglected to add any new asteroid types.

[@vectinator7605]

They could of added a Mercury Geyser or a Cinnabar Volcano.

[@LagiacrusHunter]

It seems odd that they would make mercury consumable and not make a space POI for both versions of the game. Space Out got the Frozen Mercury Field (mentioned at 9:53), but the base game didn't get it?

[@roboticgamer8990]

while a bit of an exploit you can "breed" refined metals by building something like a high pressure gas vent that takes 200 refined metal and 50 plastic to build, since once built it is classified as being made from 250 refined metal meaning if you then melt the vent you can effectively transmute plastic to refined metal at a 1 to 1 ratio.

[@c0ldfury]

@@roboticgamer8990 Did not know that, thought it just melted to naptha. Might be a solution to the frequent maps I find without gold too. Honestly don't like these cheats just to play the (much faster) base game though.

[@NicoKardung]

On my actual game the Tree still makes nektar if it is lit by a shine bug. How is this possible if it need 10.000 lux. Is my playthrough bugged oder does it does this even with low light

[@twicethebaka5640]

10k is for max production, lower light levels give lesser nectar/wood

[@Netspyer]

bonbon trees got a pair of 🍑 at the base 👀

[@Pollyvx]

titorial

[@LagiacrusHunter]

A note for that last bit about making snow; it requires a lot of Dupe labor, but Ice Makers are actually heat deleters, not generators. They chill 30kg of water by 0.16°C per second, leading to ~20kDTU of cooling, but they only output 16kDTU of heat.

[@roboticgamer8990]

also worth noting that with the right design you could direct the heat from the ice makers into a self cooling steam turbine effectively removing the heat output entirely. a possible design that should work would be to run steel ice makers in a vacuum (to avoid heat transfer to the ice) with fluids and conduction panels used to transfer the heat to the steam turbine.

[@otreeman6644]

titorial (lf pin)

[@carlosromero2839]

Please consider revising your tutorials to include Fahrenheit.

[@ToskaForsite]

Bourbon tree.