Oyster mushrooms in buckets. How many buckets will you need? How to calculate them?

[@OysterMushroom_expert-tech]

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[@amitbarikeri3]

Greetings from India 🇮🇳, love ur channel ❤

[@philippotgieter1526]

Thanks, for the info, you used our bucket growing photos very nicely. Thanks We do also have 14liter buckets, in the centre, growing all sides, some of them gave us 4 good flushes already. Greetings from Spain

[@OysterMushroom_expert-tech]

Thank you very much for the photo. I have another photo of yours, where there are these buckets in the center, but the video turned out so long that I decided not to use this photo.

[@Primitivemycology]

Great video! Because I make my own spawn and I use sterile substrates-masters mix I always use 10-12% spawn as it's very cheap making your own. When growing in buckets on straw or in large straw bags I do agree with only 5% spawn rate because it's only pasteurized rather than sterile. There is a trade off always from sterile blocks to pasteurized straw, the cost being the largest factor and then the preparation and cleaning next. I have moved to buckets and 40" bags for straw in my greenhouse for oysters while growing fruiting blocks indoors for all other species sometimes including oysters as well. Lions mane, shiitake, and reishi being the biggest commodity for me I grow many more sterile blocks than straw buckets. So many factors even when considering local markets. Thank you

[@OysterMushroom_expert-tech]

Thank you for your feedback! I agree with you about sterile substrates. Spawn grain is a good food for mycelium and there is no need to select other additives. I believe that the future belongs to sterile substrates. There is only one point in the production of grain spawn - you need to periodically update the culture.

[@Primitivemycology]

@@OysterMushroom_expert-tech I do long term water storage of the earliest mycelium, also use slants, and just got a small cryo freezer box to store originals. The cryo box is no bigger than a wine fridge but the vials I use are only 3 ml so hundreds will fit. Managing cultures and breeding are very time consuming but save so much money long term. Making grain spawn is my next biggest saver. I hope to start selling spawn of some of my own creations at some point. I do agree that sterile substrate is gaining ground, but I will say the ease of pasteurized straw and the cost are second to none. Both have their benefits I suppose and drawbacks. I am a small farm of 6 years, well 3 years growing to sell but only locally and at markets. I am growing though and getting into the legal part of operating legitimately. There is so much to navigate in those terms that I feel the easy part is the lab work and production. No more filing self employed I suppose as I will have a federal tax number soon for my LLC.

[@OysterMushroom_expert-tech]

I had an LLC, I made bags for sale, in a pasteurization tunnel (10 tons of substrate), and then built growing chambers and sold 4 tons of oyster mushrooms per month. This is very hard work. I was a director, an accountant, and a technologist (for the sake of saving money). In Ukraine, accounting is very complicated and there are many tax reports. And we bought mycelium. But I agree that making mycelium yourself is a big savings.

[@Primitivemycology]

@@OysterMushroom_expert-tech I love the fact that you grow fungus! We each have our own little niches and community is where we share it. I have learned so much from other people as I started just doing the culture work as I'm a failed organic chemistry student. This all started because of my love of foraging and plant tissue culture knowledge. Lol when I realized the techniques are mostly the same but different media I had to try to clone my local species and 6 years later I just built a building with no loans and have collected so many genetics I doubt I could ever fully understand them all on a biological and chemical level. Plus I love to see them grow. I'm sure you can relate to that. Primordia to mature fruit is the most fascinating process I've ever seen and the breeding projects are amazing how diverse a species can be. Often not commercially viable but very enjoyable

[@Primitivemycology]

@@OysterMushroom_expert-tech I agree, that is fantastic. Volume can be nice to employ many people or to make money in large amounts for short periods of time but I've found that with no investors and no loans I can honestly clear 80,000 a year in my pocket after taxes, overhead, operating, fuel, supplies by simply doing all the work myself with one helper. That is enough for me. When I figured my space to run at its best buying in spawn or colonized block, in my area it's just not profitable unless you are growing 1,000 pounds a week. I've been growing 100 moving into the new space soon I can grow 350 to 500 a week and generate a more than fair income. No Interest in more until the economy is better. I've seen many grow to much to fast and close the doors within 3 years and I want to be here for 30. I am sure I am misguided in some areas but steady. I totally respect your ethic and your experience

[@Barni-hi4sy]

Hi. Great video useful information. I have a question for you, when you say to use only 5% spawn, you mean that by volume, dry or wet weight???

[@OysterMushroom_expert-tech]

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I should have clarified this point. The thing is that in Ukraine it is not customary to measure spawn by volume, so I did not think that I needed to explain. When I say 5% I mean from the total weight of the finished substrate, which is mixed with spawn

[@Barni-hi4sy]

@@OysterMushroom_expert-tech thanks, greetings from Hungary btw

[@amitbarikeri3]

One question, I have seen a friend of mine getting 7th flush as well. I know it decreases gradually and for commercial we don’t stick to that long time. But in general, for oysters 1 kg of substrate provides maxx 1 kg of fresh mushroom ?? Isn’t it or possibility of more ?

[@OysterMushroom_expert-tech]

You can't get one kilogram of mushrooms from 1 kg of substrate. But you can get even more from the dry component of the substrate. That is, you take a kilogram of agricultural waste, then you wet it, you get 3.5 or 3.8 kilograms of substrate and from them 1 kilogram of mushrooms, or even 1.2-1.3 kg

[@amitbarikeri3]

@@OysterMushroom_expert-tech , okay understood this , 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@OysterMushroom_expert-tech]

@@amitbarikeri3 I know that oyster mushrooms grow best on cotton waste, which is similar to cotton wool, and the yield sometimes even reaches 100% of the weight of the substrate itself.

[@OysterMushroom_expert-tech]

Video on how to make substrate kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4uwq36lqauloacsi=B-9pcGWKf-s6Je2D And another interesting video about growing in buckets - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnuwhpaKbaZratE