Ozark Trail 3 Piece Cook Set Revisit, Svea 123R, Rice and Coffee

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@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078
@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078 5 жыл бұрын
I have used the same ozark trail pots for over 6 years now. They work just fine. Plus I keep my cup in it along with some tinder.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and sharing your experience with this cook set! I think they work just fine, too! -Dave
@NathansFerroceriumrods1
@NathansFerroceriumrods1 5 жыл бұрын
Coffee is always good in the outdoors. The rice looks good too.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right, Nathan! Thank you for watching, my good friend! -Dave
@GyspyRaven
@GyspyRaven 5 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see a fellow outdoorsman who doesn’t have to have all the expensive stuff. Nothing wrong with the cheaper, affordable gear! Just do a bit of research first! Keep up the good work my friend!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right, my friend! Nothing wrong with cheaper, affordable gear...well, for the most part..haha! Research definitely helps! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your kind, encouraging comment! -Dave
@jeffcarter3139
@jeffcarter3139 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the ozark trail three piece stainless steel cook set. Best deal out there, Thanks Dave. I hope you all had a great Christmas. Have a good New year my friend. I enjoyed watching. Thank you. Tennessee
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from you, Jeff! Thank you for taking the time to stop by and leave your very nice comment! I am happy to hear that you enjoyed watching and I hope the New Year is treating you really well! -Dave
@trynsurviven2440
@trynsurviven2440 5 жыл бұрын
Looked like a great little outing and the rice lunch sounds really good.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from you, my friend! Yes, it was an excellent outing and outstanding rice meal! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by! -Dave
@kan-zee
@kan-zee 5 жыл бұрын
A little on the heavy side, but very durable and great sizes for day hikes & longer adventures. Good review Dav .. The Walmart product is a good budget brand , i think cheers.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right, Kanzee! Thank you for the kind words and I appreciate you stopping by, my friend! Nice to hear from you! -Dave
@scotthill6807
@scotthill6807 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same set. Very affordable and durable. Get some Soft Scrub or Bar Keepers Friend and they will scrub up and look like new. They even come in handy around the house. Thanks for video Dave and Happy New Year brother. Thumbs up.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, Scott and I appreciate the information! Always great to hear from you, my friend! -Dave
@marodriguezsr
@marodriguezsr 5 жыл бұрын
When you first introduced this cook set I went out & got me one. I was/am very happy & satisfied with the purchase. Take care my brother & keep enjoying the great out of doors. - Marco
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
That is great to hear, Marco! Thank you for taking the time to stop by, my friend! Very nice to hear from you! -Dave
@bushcraftzombie7286
@bushcraftzombie7286 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the videos awesome cook set good budget Bushcraft
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your very nice comment, my friend! I really appreciate that! The price is definitely one of the best things about this rugged cook set! -Dave
@mrwes100
@mrwes100 5 жыл бұрын
Dave, as always, a well delivered video. I like how you show budget options that work just as good. Be well.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, my friend! I really appreciate the kind works! I am a big believer in sharing budget gear that works well. -Dave
@hmwusa102
@hmwusa102 5 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for a gear review that has been tested,so many pieces of gear are reviewed without testing and praised because of name. Ive been using walmart grade gear for years in many different weather conditions and have done fine.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I concur about much of the Walmart gear that I own and appreciate you stopping by! -Dave
@BushCraftBums
@BushCraftBums 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! Thanks for sharing! Have a blessed day!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice comment! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by, my friend! -Dave
@MrSIXGUNZ
@MrSIXGUNZ 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks much coffee buddy!!! Wishing you and your family a happy new year!!!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from you, my friend! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your excellent comment and I hope your 2019 is off to a great start! -Dave
@bosse641
@bosse641 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. All the best for the new year, Dave.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, John! Same to you and I hope your New Year is off to an excellent start! -Dave
@LeeRalph100
@LeeRalph100 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Cook Set. I have been impressed with OT's cook gear...and at a great price. Thanks for the review after using it for sometime. Dave. I am wishing you all the best for 2019!!!!!!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Great to hear from you, Lee! You are exactly right, OT's cook gear isn't bad, at all! I hope 2019 is off to a great start for you and say HI to the boys for me, my friend! -Dave
@MichiganHiker
@MichiganHiker 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New year's Dave and another good video. I always enjoy how you include information showing that you don't have to spend tons of money they have gear that works.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your very nice comment, Lawrence! I really appreciate that, my friend! I believe that good gear does not have to be expensive! -Dave
@CheezeheadChris
@CheezeheadChris 5 жыл бұрын
Another great job. IFor the price you just can't beat kit. I went and bought a set after you did your 1st review. Add the OT cup and it's almost perfect. I bought a set to do a giveaway.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by, my friend! I agree, for the price it's excellent! You are exactly right...almost perfect with the addition of that $5 cup! This is an excellent item for a giveaway! -Dave
@Woodswalker1965
@Woodswalker1965 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Dave, I love the sound of that Svea! That's a great cook kit for the money, I have one too😉🔥. Take care, Wade
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, Wade! You are exactly right, a great cook kit for the money! Nice to hear from you, my friend, and I hope everything is going well! -Dave
@rickc4317
@rickc4317 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to you, too, Dave! Thanks for sharing your nice outing. Did you forget your little tarp to sit on? :-)
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Rick! Nice to hear from you, my friend! Haha...I didn't think I'd need the tarp but definitely could've used it! -Dave
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 5 жыл бұрын
Always wanted a Svea. Good video brother!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
You would love the Svea 123 stoves! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your nice comment, my friend! -Dave
@mg344268
@mg344268 5 жыл бұрын
hello sir, i am from northern norway. i use some stove rope arround the burner stem so it sits in the priming dent. secure it witk thin copperwire. then it will absorbe alot of fuel/alcohol so you just need one priming however cold the winter...thank you for nice videos.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, sounds like an excellent setup you have there! I have been presented with similar methods that I may try in the winter time. Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your very nice comment, my friend! -Dave
@Slyder2828
@Slyder2828 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds of satisfaction at 12:00. Looks nice, thank you.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Haha..you are exactly right! Thank you for taking the time to stop by and leave your awesome comment! -Dave
@AdventureTimeOutdoors
@AdventureTimeOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Nice kit and great budget option too. The pathfinder pot looks like a copy of the kochanski bush pot! Great design for sure. I think I prefer those to Zebra pots. Great video as always my friend.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Nice to hear from you, my friend! Years ago, I purchased the PF pot over the Kochanski pot due to the fact that it's stainless steel and I love it! I also prefer the design over the Zebra pots. -Dave
@Thereal111t
@Thereal111t 5 жыл бұрын
You should still open and close the cap on subsequent burns to equalize the pressure. Using heet is a good idea for priming.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely! The majority of time, I use a small eye dropper of HEET after "burping" or equalizing the pressure. Thank you for watching! -Dave
@lastgameplay
@lastgameplay 5 жыл бұрын
Yes , so true, time. Happy New Year to you
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Time just keeps getting away from us, huh? I really hope 2019 is treating you well and I look forward to talking with you again soon! -Dave
@guns4funcajanajustin
@guns4funcajanajustin 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Dave! Great pots for sure awesome kit.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from you, Justin! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your awesome comment, my friend! I hope your 2019 is off to an excellent start! -Dave
@clarkpitts5393
@clarkpitts5393 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Dave ! Another great video. I must agree,You can't go wrong with that cook set at ten bucks. Save the extra cash for something to cook in it.. hehe, take care, Clark
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Clark! Thank you for the kind words my friend! Yes, $10 definitely leaves some cash for things to cook..haha! You take care too, Clark! Nice to hear from you! -Dave
@yveskc1
@yveskc1 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video with a good cook set. Thanks for sharing and happy new year!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! Very nice to hear from you, my friend, and I hope your New Year is going well! -Dave
@southernyert7597
@southernyert7597 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Happy new year. Thx for a grt video. I like the nice pricey gear, but definitely like to know what budget items work
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, Robert! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by and leave your excellent comment, my friend! -Dave
@alf3553
@alf3553 5 жыл бұрын
Always good to see what your up to Dave, nice simple cookout. Great stove, reminds me of my MSR Dragonfly. As a member of StoveAholics on Facebook sometimes I just have to tell myself NO when I see a stove.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to stop by, my friend! I know what it's like to have to tell myself NO when it comes to certain gear..haha! -Dave
@inthewoodswithbigfoot3941
@inthewoodswithbigfoot3941 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same set and mine still have the rubber coating on the handles. I have been wanting to upgrade to the Zebra billycan. Great video and great kit Brother! Thanks for sharing!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, my friend! I appreciate the kind words! Let me know how you Zebra pot works out for you, brother! -Dave
@charlescollier7217
@charlescollier7217 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Dave! Have a wonderful and prosperous New Year!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your very nice comment, Charles! Great to hear from you, my friend! -Dave
@charlescollier7217
@charlescollier7217 5 жыл бұрын
Hope all is well my friend @@HighCarbonSteelLove
@ancientsouloutdoors4088
@ancientsouloutdoors4088 5 жыл бұрын
As usual, our tastes are quite the same. Another good video, brother.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike, my friend! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your kind words! -Dave
@SouthernPatriot1
@SouthernPatriot1 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year 🎆🎊🥳 Dave, to you as well! Hope you had a great Christmas. I really like my OT cookware, it compliments my Stanley adventure cup so well. I use the wire bale on mine like you suggested. Tfs so much! Take care, Nikki.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Nikki, thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your awesome comment! You make a great point that I have not tried...pairing this kit up with the Stanley Adventure cup...very interesting combo and I'll bet it works really well! I like how the lips on the OT set are perfect for wire bales! I am very happy I could help, my friend! -Dave
@RileyJustHappened
@RileyJustHappened 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Dave, I always enjoy your calm videos when you upload them!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very nice comment, Matt! Its a pleasure to have you here, my friend! -Dave
@onetimeoutdoorsdj1394
@onetimeoutdoorsdj1394 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool I wish I would have seen this video a day ago I just ordered a pot set LOL but that's my luck maybe I can send it back cuz I'm sure this is way cheaper than what I just ordered but I hope you're doing well God bless you and your family
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from you, my friend! Just make sure a local Walmart near you has these in stock before returning your set. I hear that they are getting hard to find. I appreciate you stopping by! -Dave
@onetimeoutdoorsdj1394
@onetimeoutdoorsdj1394 5 жыл бұрын
@@HighCarbonSteelLove thank you
@grampawterry8957
@grampawterry8957 5 жыл бұрын
Went and bought one today ..
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thats great to hear, my friend! How is it working out for you? Thank you for watching and keep me posted on how you are liking the cook set! -Dave
@LGSkywalker82
@LGSkywalker82 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review of this set. Always wondered if it was any good. Thanks Dave! Happy New Year!!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
It definitely does the job, my friend! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your awesome comment, brother! I hope to talk with you again soon! -Dave
@anoldgupti7979
@anoldgupti7979 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely video! Informative and a nice location! Thanks Dave and wishing you a Happy New Year 2019!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very much, for the kind words! Yes, I love this location and go there often! I hope your New Year is off to an excellent start! -Dave
@PREPFORIT
@PREPFORIT 5 жыл бұрын
Very affordable gear review. I honestly thought that cook set was aluminum all this time. Looks like I will be treating myself to this product soon Or next Christmas. Thanks for this review.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
You will love this cook set, my friend..very durable and affordable! Thank you for taking the time to stop by! -Dave
@WeTheArmed
@WeTheArmed 5 жыл бұрын
As always Brother, good stuff! Hope you have a great year ahead also!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, my friend! I really appreciate you taking the time to stop by! Lots of changes for me so far in the New Year. I hope yours is off to an excellent start! -Dave
@WeTheArmed
@WeTheArmed 5 жыл бұрын
@@HighCarbonSteelLove It is my friend. I hope all of your changes, are for the better changes! Take care, always look forward to one of your videos! Thanks for the update!
@victorvasquez2788
@victorvasquez2788 5 жыл бұрын
Thx Dav for the revisit, nice cook set for the price. Love the Svea 123R. Have a Happy New Year bud..
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your excellent comment, Victor! You are exactly right about the cook set and I cannot get enough of the Svea 123R! Nice to hear from you, my friend! -Dave
@CommonCentsOutdoorsman
@CommonCentsOutdoorsman 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Dave... hope you have a wonderful and successful New Year!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, my friend! I hope the same for you and hope the New Year is going well for you! -Dave
@thomasmusso1147
@thomasmusso1147 4 жыл бұрын
Not Ultra-Light 'see-how-far-you-can-constantly-hike-in-one-day' Gear. If it does the job, for 10 bucks, it puts the Outdoors within reach for more of us. SVEA 123 .. a Great Stove 👍.
@TACHILL
@TACHILL 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great kit bro. Hope ya have a happy new year.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, my friend! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by and I hope to talk with you again soon! -Dave
@fatalfromabove8943
@fatalfromabove8943 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a pretty good set!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from you, Chad! Thank you for taking the time to stop by, my friend! Yes, this set has been high value for a pretty low cost! I hope everything is going well for you, brother! -Dave
@BingWatcher
@BingWatcher 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave , it's very satisfying to get a look back on gear that you have given us a review from a while back. We will be happy ☺to see 👀more like that! And can you please clarify what is your material that is used to insulate under the stove (Svea123)? Thanks!
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, my friend! I will gladly do more videos like this one, looking back on previously reviewed gear. My insulator is 2 cutout squares of cardboard, duct taped together with aluminum foil wrapped around the outside. Works really well! Great question! -Dave
@birdman6499
@birdman6499 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Ozark trail is not bad at all.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right, my friend! I have had a lot of luck with much of OT's gear! Thank you for taking the time to stop by and leave your kind words! -Dave
@williamgates1128
@williamgates1128 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video brother! Very good times with tried and tested gear. So I've been missing seeing your woodcraft pack axe!! Any chance on seeing it in a future video? I've really been contemplating getting one, but unsure if I should get the 19" or 24"
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, William! There is definitely a chance of the CT Woodcraft Pack Axe in future videos, as I love that thing! I don't mind my 24" at all, however, I have also been curious about the 19". I like the packability and lower weight of smaller axes, too. -Dave
@phyllismulkey3778
@phyllismulkey3778 5 жыл бұрын
great video ,Happy New Year
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, phyllis! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by and leave your nice comment, my friend! Very nice to hear from you! -Dave
@WaywardWaggs
@WaywardWaggs 5 жыл бұрын
Nice set. Doesn't take up a lot of space either.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right, my friend! Doesn't take up a lot of space, at all! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by and leave your awesome comment! -Dave
@WaywardWaggs
@WaywardWaggs 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@treadmarsh1094
@treadmarsh1094 5 жыл бұрын
Nice revisit sir, Happy New Year
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by! I hope 2019 is off to an excellent start for you, my friend! -Dave
@timberg7377
@timberg7377 5 жыл бұрын
Fun stuff bud
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, tim! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by, my friend! -Dave
@mitchellgardner2193
@mitchellgardner2193 5 жыл бұрын
You can just drill a couple small holes & make a bail to pop in & out to hang it over a fire, or just take one off a paint can or order one online for $0.18
@indianprepper2478
@indianprepper2478 5 жыл бұрын
Good Video Bro. For 10$ is the BEST Deal . use the big pot as a Raw Food container. By the way Happy New Year
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a great use for the big pot! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your nice comment, my friend! I hope your New Year is off to an excellent start! -Dave
@cassshields5106
@cassshields5106 5 жыл бұрын
This maybe a little off topic but have you ever tried the marttiini condor temberjack knife? I know you like mora and I do as well but this thing to me is incredible and very similar to a mora heavy duty companion but with some improvements I like more. Like I said a little off topic just thought I’d ask thanks for the awesome videos and I hope you have a amazing day.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your nice comment! No, I have never tried the marttiini but I've only heard great things! -Dave
@SouthernPatriot1
@SouthernPatriot1 5 жыл бұрын
Was gonna buy another set of these for my son to have when we go out and Walmart is not carrying them in any store near me or online?! Ugh! This stinks.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, Nikki! Oh man, I am sorry to hear that! I have heard that these are getting tougher to find at Walmart locations. It seems like some of the best gear they carry seem to disappear after awhile, like some of the Stanley Outdoor products. I hope you are able to come across one soon, my friend! Thank you for taking the time to stop by! -Dave
@shootermcmillan
@shootermcmillan 5 жыл бұрын
Dave I have this same kit, no question it is an excellent value for what you are getting.....pretty much crush proof. Though I get the concept that the inner ring of the lid is designed to sit on the smaller pot, that is the one real disappointment with the set. The lids don t need to be as heavy as they are, they merely hold the heat for a quicker boil. It occurs to me they could include two lighter lids that fit both pots for the same weight., and lets face it they are stamped out so there is no significant labor costs in producing the second lid. Also the large lid on the small pot just really sucks.....I solved this issue by borrowing the lid from my Solo Pot 900, it isn't a perfect fit but it was close enough that acquired a second lid from Solo Stove ........of course Al foil works too. Another fine review friend.
@CheezeheadChris
@CheezeheadChris 5 жыл бұрын
I was able find a couple of lids that fit both pots at my local thrift store for 25 cents each.
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave your excellent comment, Ed! You make some excellent points, although, the lid doesn't bother me too much. You are exactly right...they are simply to hold the heat for a quicker boil. -Dave
@HighCarbonSteelLove
@HighCarbonSteelLove 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice find! Thank you for watching! -Dave
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