P-47 SNAFU CRASH!!!

sooner or later it comes around to all who fly rc. this wasnt a problem of my futaba system it was too much of a hurry? too hot out? low lifE battery? poor plug in connection? what ever the case it was human error. you can see the left wingtip drop coming out of the last bank before the loop. that wasnt me on the controls that was my first clue there was something wrong and as i went into the loop the elevator was mush and whatever it was caused a snap and the rest is history. The good news is that the FG-19 made it! as soon as i was able i had the wee 3 cylinder radial on the hard stand and it seems to have made through this just fine . i had to bend back the motor mounts and there is a small chip in the velocity stack but the engine still runs just fine and will find its new home on my topflite .60 corsair, video to come so stay tuned!

[@moises8795]

I’m very impressed by how calm and composed he was after the crash

[@shelbyseelbach9568]

It's all just part of the hobby. You quicky realize that if your not willing to crash it, you don't fly it. You just learn from what happened and start thinking about what plane is going to replace it.

[@wraith657]

@@shelbyseelbach9568 I agree with that... I also think it's that he's a real good natured guy too.

[@johno9507]

Us model pilots enjoy crashing from time to time because it gives us an excuse to spend more money on another project. 😋

[@wraith657]

@@johno9507 I agree with that... I actually love building them more than flying them.

[@gogogeedus]

It's an ARF he didn't spend a hundreds hours building it,he can just go to the model shop and by another, you can;t by another scratch built model.

[@emanuelmota7217]

You can tell this guy's been doing RC for a while. Very balanced and analytical "NTSB" approach to the crash.

[@jagdpanther9]

Thank You. Yes they are all destine to crash no matter how long one has been flying. After a crash this train of thought comes in.

[@robashley6394]

Sorry for your loss, but that wasn't the radio. That was a stall.

[@TheWeekendOperator-tz4cy]

100% he stalled it when he pulled back

[@francescovettorino8254]

Sorry for your loss. I love the p47! however I don't think it was a radio problem. in the video you can see that while you are pulling the looping he snaps and immediately afterwards he spins. I think you had given too much travel on the elevator and you have exceeded the characteristics of the plane. I apologize to everyone if I wrote errors but I am using the translator.

[@Loise5901]

salut oui tu as raison j ai fait la meme faute avec un at6 je penssai que c etait la radio on mais toujours la faute sur l avion ou radio

[@jimr3633]

Condolences, what a great looking plane! Looking forward to the Corsair. Thanks for sharing the losses with the wins so we can all learn from each others' experience!

[@GSWeb8]

WOW that’s not good! Sorry for your loss she was a beautiful bird. Glad that most of the components survived including the engine.

[@Gavs_rc_hobbies]

The one thing i dislike about this hobby, you can put a whole heap of time and effort into a model making sure everything is right before it's maiden, and it can suddenly go pear shaped during it's flight.

[@gogogeedus]

Its an ARF, He took it out of a box,thats the work he did.

[@davidpayton8336]

OH MAN! I'm so sorry sir. :-(

[@iriquiosgunship]

Sorry to see that happened 😔 but you have a great attitude about it. Some of our members here would cuzz and scream like there's no tomorrow.

[@jimmyhaley727]

God i love ELECTRICS airplane motors

[@maxun1]

That was not radio. IS FLIGHT CONTROL FAILURE.

[@jimbojones2457]

Oh man my heart broke with that beautiful plane! Sorry that happened to you mate! I lost my best plane like this. An 88 inch Extreme Flight Yak 54 with a DA60cc engine. I had bought it second hand and the previous owner had done some weird wiring job on the plane. It seemed to fly fine for several months but one day she went off the air as i was coming in to land. One battery was flat but the other one was ok. Obviously the redundancy didn't work. From that day i vowed NEVER to buy a second hand plane ever again! All the planes i've built i have NEVER had one go off the air. Glad the donk survived mate! Subbed to your channel.

[@MrDrakeSirlit]

I think I might have let out an F bomb at a moment like that. My first big RC crash happened with a T Rex 450 when I forgot to check the tail screws for pre-flight check (never going to neglect that again, live and learn). Lost the control linkage and she spun out. Sorry for the loss of a beautiful plane, glad the engine made it.

[@jimmyhaley727]

damn,, I hate the word NEVER,,,lol

[@jimmyhaley727]

IF and NEVER are bad words

[@daniellopez2239]

"The End of Snafu" by jagdpanther

[@raimundoelmalo]

So sorry man! Fortunately the gorgeous engine will fly again for sure. I want to congrats you, you are a very honest man. Good flights!

[@jagdpanther9]

Thank You. i am just uploading a video of my .060 topflite corsair. the FG-19 runs better than ever!!

[@natal777]

What a shame😂That was a beautiful plane.

[@rafaeltorres2886]

I had three planes lost in a row then a friend had brought it to my attention that people are using high power routers that transmit at 2.4 g that could be causing interference with our receivers, it makes sense I had all three planes flying in a school yard near homes.

[@MyZxcvb12]

I don't know that what action we take? Could be worth letting manufacturers know

[@billbright1755]

One of the servo crank arms broke probably rudder by appearance on loss of control dynamics.

[@peterp.4381]

I have same model of FUTABA. I have it more then 10 years, but this radio still makes me crazy. The stupid software and screen ........ mmmmmm. I'm going to buy something cheaper and better ! Sure, it will not be Spektrum, no way .... It was nice plane ... anyway. BR from Poland. Peter

[@nateg6320]

It looked as though it was a high speed stall, and ultimately too low to correctly recover from. Gorgeous P47 though! I commend you on how well you handled the situation

[@j.q.higgins2245]

So sorry, mate; what a gorgeous aircraft... But then, we are all humans and have had these moments. Hope you can rebuild it with reasonable effort; it's well worth it. Take care!

[@oliverw782]

That sucks!!! I'm sorry man

[@srvictorbatista]

Nem sempre o mais caro, é o melhor...

[@pilott7435]

Hi, too little too late , My P51 1/4 scale had the same problem Radio futaba 14 sg flew fine and then went in a death spin , I sent the radio to Ripmax and they found No problem ???? never found out why

[@jrhawk574]

HEARTBREAKER !!! Maybe if you had put the Cowling back on......? No more FUTABA, that's for sure !

[@DuffusMonkey]

I got a big laugh when you mentioned in a newer video how THIS was your most popular video. So I had to come back comment and like to promote it more. ;) All I do is crash so maybe I have a future as a RC KZbin star!

[@jagdpanther9]

i really had to think before i uploaded this video but it is how it is! of course pain and misfortune are always more popular than anything else. seriously though if all you uploaded was crash videos you would be a huge you tube star!!! =D

[@DuffusMonkey]

@@jagdpanther9 I could pretend to be an rich arrogant ass that always blames my equipment when I obviously have little flying skill, that way everyone would enjoy my crashes guilt free... This is a great idea ;)

[@rperry70]

Looked like the RX batt voltage was 4.7 v as displayed on the TX. That is too low and probably why you lost control. if that checks out, it did look like a stall spin, secondary stall hit the ground scenario also. Yeah, you did not have control, because it was stalled. Not because the radio failed.

[@brainchenger4530]

Yes, in too much of a hurry ,,, I lost 1/4 scale su31 did U know... may be somebody need a wing ,s??!! It's great plane su 31 ,,, only wings in OK condition

[@kentall8794]

looks like a high speed stall

[@simonetaormina7080]

It’s a shame sorry for your loss but I do believe the R617 F Rx is not a HV RX so a 7.4 v battery may have been your problem if I’ve seen the Rx battery right. I also use Futaba and never had an issue please let me know what you found.

[@bb4l881]

I too use Futaba (for years) with a 617 rx and have never had a problem. It's good for 4.8v to 6v. I personally only ever fly on 6v to negate any power drain by operating 6, 7 or even 8 high torque digital servos all at the same time.

[@feltav5719]

Brother... Something with ur controls and/or rx placement... That is saaaad.

[@brianemery8945]

Yep. I know that feeling all too well.

[@Vintauri]

Ouch man sorry to see that! Glad the engine looks to not be damaged but check it for bent shafts!

[@jagdpanther9]

thanks man, the FG-19 made it . i have it running on the hard stand and am posting a video soon. i might have to get with you for another p-47 !

[@leavesleyaviation]

You stalled her buddy 1000%.

[@julienhoffmeyer2597]

Seems not to be a radio problem. Just pulling too hard when trying the loop (1/4) and the plane snaps. Then the stick is kept pulling backwards and she never flies again. Boom! Saw that many times at my airfield, and always the same yell from the pilot: Lost radio! I had a 1500mm and a 84" P-51D Mustangs, and a couple of other itchy airplanes. Those warbirds have some wing loading and need careful inputs 😉

[@natelove187]

It could have been a receiver battery, 2.4ghz interference or a high speed stall. People don’t like Jeti Radios but Jeti Radios have two 2.4ghz antennas and a backup 900mhz receiver. The Jeti will tell you in advance if you are losing signal or if your receiver battery is spiking voltage. You need a backup for that backup and for that backup🍷 P.S. There’s nothing wrong with having 2 or 3 different manufacturers Radios. Some guys use Spektrum and Futaba for their less expensive models and use Jeti Radios for their expensive models. I have Airtronics Radio (Never lost a Plane), Futaba 16SZA and the most luxurious radio Jeti DS 16 Carbon.

[@Donkey_Balls]

I’ve already decided to stick with foamies. This is painful to watch.

[@billbright1755]

Situation normal all f’d up ! 😊 S.N.A.F.U.

[@andreavene6659]

Noooo !! Mi spiace tantissimo !!! ! Per fortuna il motore sembra ok !! Un saluto ! Ciao

[@izudindin2679]

sir,wht problem your plane?i have same issue my right flap open suddenly then crash

[@ILSRWY4]

P-47 is my favorite WW2 fighter. Beautiful model! Can't believe you lost it. But I know its not your piloting skills... sorry for your loss! :(

[@robertpapps3618]

Sooner or later we get bit but you hate to have it happen with a plane powered by a motor like a FG-19.

[@kenswanson1093]

Hey man, .. you put out good videos. Disappointing, the crash. This is half guess, half question .. is it possible that something could have shifted, or dislodged, that last second of hard maneuvering, that you did have control? If so, .. causing a pulled apart wired connection? That 3 cylinder engine looks pretty sweet. How are you enjoying the weather? .. I live in southern Minnesota, too. Thanks

[@marcojaric4030]

put this switchess in a petrol plane is a crime. well know thay fails with vibrations.

[@funfreq9282]

It's a shame to drill such a pretty plane! at least you had a great attitude about it and you still have some of the the expensive parts to rebuild! I know it may seem cheesy but I still use those little $5 LED battery status strips that plug into the receiver, the minute I turn on I know where I stand with power.

[@winklton]

I have to say since worked in a model shop and witnessed lots of futaba crashes I haven’t trusted it for years

[@donkboys]

Have flown Futaba for 30 years, nary a radio problem

[@DarrellCook-vl6lm]

I went with HiTec after losing 5 airplanes in a row. Then I had problems with their 8 channel recievers and lost 2 more. The micro receivers had two failures too. I miss my old pre '90s gear that never failed. Even on 72 kHz. Beware of flying around powerlines, chain link fences, metal buildings and schools. 2.4 ghz. Is not infallible and it doesn't work as well around the above mentioned hazards. Remember flying on 28 kHz? Ouchies for your airplanes.

[@carlosjahans7366]

Futaba 14SG ALWAYS THE SAME PROBLEM!!!

[@btomas225]

You assemble ARF's, I build models....😀

[@jeffs7915]

Was the cause of the crash ever determined? Had a friend bury a 20 cc Extra on second flight. He had no control on a Futaba 2.4 all new equipment, Life batteries new faast receiver appeared to die,

[@johno9507]

I think the planes name says it all SNAFU... Situation Normal All Fu***d Up! 😂

[@carlosjahans7366]

FUTABA IS THE WORST! Try Jeti Duplex

[@bitemykrank1970]

Another fine example of how ARF's are NOT built to hit the deck.......I have a 73" Phoenix Extra 330SC that is missing everything forward of the firewall, and it went in a LOT softer and from a lot lower than this did. Glad the Saito pulled through, it would have been a serious tragedy if you'd bent that.....the "kinda-like" carboard and plastic airframe it was dragging around is no great loss in my opinion. It might be a tad late now, but next time you'll check those batteries won't you ?

[@porsche1971]

about 10 years ago, i had a Yak, from Great Planes, and i used to use Life batteries. I only had one battery, no redundancy system in the plane. it had a 30 cc nitro motor in it. It was the first flight of the morning. I had charged the battery that morning. I checked the voltage before hand, and took her off. I then flew her for 9 minutes and landed the plane. As I was taxiing her back, all of a sudden, the motor quit and one elevator dropped. On the ground, all of a sudden, I had lost radio control of the airplane. Then I checked the battery, and the voltage was 4.2 that is when I knew, never again use a LIFE A123 battery. So sorry my friend.

[@jagdpanther9]

Thank you.i was surprised how fast the voltage dropped in the Life battery.my fault though. Im flying all 2SLipo with voltage reg now.

[@ThomasBrock-b3m]

Did you ever figure out what caused your radio to blank out? The reason why I asked is I like you. Have never had a futaba do that before. That really sxares me because I am getting ready to maiden a 72 inch fiverglass fuse P-47 razorvack done in silver and olive drab trim.

[@jagdpanther9]

Yes.it was a clip for the RX battery connector .simply put the battery came un plugged.there was no fault with my futaba radio.

[@scotabot7826]

It's so, so common to blame the radio in a moment of "shock" when a model nails the ground hard, when in 95% of cases it's pilot error, or the assembler of the ARF made mistakes in the control system or electronics layout!! "I got Hit, I got Hit" Sure looked like a accelerated stall to me, although a P47 is the most forgiving warbird there is!

[@jagdpanther9]

I like your tie

[@merlin6955]

Condolences, sympathies, been there and done that so many times I'm now scratch building a 1:20 scale fishing boat. For sure she will be full working fishing, unsinkable, reserve battery back up, can't rule out a shark attack however. 😕

[@michaelhemmingsen4430]

:o( I hate it when that happens. My favorite Piper committed Hari-Kari in similar fashion. (EFLITE Pacer locked the elevator servo when I added flaps in preparation to land. Had been a perfect mix with flap and elevator for near hands free landings. Hope motor was salvaged...that’s a peach.

[@scotabot7826]

Hope the engine was ok, but for the arf model, you can go get another exactly like the first, right off the shelf!! That's the great thing about ARF's, there is no emotional attachment to the model, because you didn't build it!!

[@jagdpanther9]

Thanks! The engine did make it and is now in a TF Corsair kit build. Check in my videos on my channel back a few years.

[@kf4293]

I can honestly say, my reaction as that nosed in, and afterwards, would not be fit for the ears of drunk sailors, much less polite company. I'm impressed by your composure.

[@metalfather8139]

oh painful....did you find a dead battery pack feeding the radio.?

[@flyboywbl]

Way to bounce back!

[@digger0319]

Ja genauso. Man sollte danach immer am Motor von Hand drehen.

[@JeffsCustomRC]

So sorry to see this, hope you figured out what happened, thanks for sharing 👍🏼

[@wallywally8282]

I’ve never seen an RX switch move during an impact! Battery dislodged in flight!

[@jagdpanther9]

Of many years and 74k replies you sir are the first one who is correct !

[@piloto5248]

Did you check all the servos that happen to me one servo yam my end up in a tree.

[@warbuzzard7167]

Gee - uhh. Crap. What a terrible outcome.

[@biomacca]

Futaba. Congela na hora!

[@NoneNone-gk9wt]

Maybey a model airplane tree will grow

[@markbywater-qp3vb]

The pros and cons in Aeromodeling

[@pb12echo]

You are a better man than me! When I crash I feel like I'm in a bad mood for at least the rest of the day! Good for you for being able to shake it off. Thank you for the video, Ive been consider the FG-19 for an old TF p-47 60 size I have, good to know it can take a lickin' and keep on tick'n!

[@jeffs7915]

I go home and kick the dog, if I had a dog.

[@LockheedStarliner]

Crap..broke the prop

[@Mightymouserc]

I lost a few planes with futaba use spectrum and radio master now no trouble sorry about your crash - put her back together man 👍

[@toomanywaystofall]

rc pilot error...but pilot made it...

[@MrLupold]

That sucks! I love the p-47 i had a Razorback 150 size flew like a had afew Dead sticks and saves So sorry Brother!!! just remember to fly the Corsair to keep your speed in your turns! see many old guy's slow in turns and loose them . have fun keep flying!!

[@TheAirplaneGuys]

Sorry to see that. I fly Futaba as well and never had a brown out like our Specktrum partners. Did that engine fit in the cowl?? I have the same ARF and wanted to do the same set up, just not sure that it would fit inside the cowl.

[@jagdpanther9]

thanks jason, the fg-19 does fit the seagull p-47 cowl but just barley. i had to cheat the engine down just a little but i was able to make it fit without cutting things up.

[@michellambert1821]

This plane is too big for beginners. You must check your radio before flight.

[@jagdpanther9]

I like your tie

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

The part of the hobby we all hate but your not flying if your not crashing. We all crash, there is no point in getting upset . No amount of cursing or anger with UNCRASH the plane. Do like this pilot did, analyze the crash, learn, and plan on how to prevent in the future.

[@greghomestead8366]

And that's why I do model railroading. Ouch.

[@truenaturestormers2525]

Darn it I hate that

[@brownie6451]

Sorry about your loss that was a nice plane. Just wondering don't that fancy Futaba have a low voltage alarm for your batteries? My $180 FrSky does.

[@brownie6451]

After reading this it sounds a little snippy wasn't my intent sorry.

[@jagdpanther9]

@@brownie6451 oh hey, not taken that way. it is the truth. this model had a 617 RX which is a sort of base line RX for futaba. i have better RX for my giant models . i am usually very much on top of these things but this time it cost me.

[@montylc2001]

This is why I stick to control line airplanes, and those I don't beautify.....I usually crash them. But I don't get mad....just go oh well, NEXT!!! And a lot cheaper also. But.....sorry about the crash. T'was a beauty.

[@fabs-shop]

Yeah. Dead rx batteries do that

[@shelbyseelbach9568]

But of a Snafu snafu there huh?

[@rckoksy3748]

Sorry to see that happened

[@tonywright8294]

CG wrong , underpowered tip stall . Wrong underwear. Wrong socks NO he just stuffed it in .

[@sofi_catty7145]

That is Futaba radio 😢

[@danielbravo3973]

Nice plane! You are a first! Admitting it was pilot error, and not blaming the airplane manufacturer or the radio. Some guys would be screaming for a new plane because it was cheaply made.

[@flyboywbl]

Do you think the FG-19 could pull a 13-15lb Beaver on floats? It's designed for a DLE20. The other option would be a FG-21 single but I'd love the radial.

[@guyguybohurst3304]

Sorry about your airplane. Hey where did you buy that P47 prop nut?

[@jagdpanther9]

Hi and thanks. If you go to my videos i just answered the prop nut question on the snafu fg 19 engine made it video. It was a question a few weeks ago.

[@Tallguysrc]

Wow that was tough to watch sorry my friend.

[@BrainDeadEngineering]

Phuck that hurts when i see vids like this, probable simple thing as a power disconnect in plane ( futaba rules . I been having bad luck at air strip ( We are a special breed ! nothing can keep us down ! play hard !

[@kyles310]

Forgot to hit B, A, Start...

[@theonetazman]

You handled that as tho you were almost expecting it. I mean wow you kept your cool. I would have turned into a 5yo real quick. Hahaha And good on ya for looking at the bright side of it. Hats off to ya sir. 👏

[@halroofner4069]

Damn. Sorry to see that happen. Beautiful plane. Did the engine survive?

[@jagdpanther9]

Thanks. The engine is in my topflite .60 corsair.i made videos of the fg19 on the test stand and flying the corsair.check them out if you wish.😊

[@fatehsinghrcplane7730]

I feel your pain…. I wish we all Should form a big club for USA FLYERS…when lose plane we all should pitch in

[@dank3998]

8:36 I can relate to this, I have lost a couple of planes due Brown outs. Fly with Cowlings on incase of crash it helps protect motor.😢

[@mrssantiago894]

Sorry for your loss. I’m lost f 16 1/8 turbine with futaba radio, change to jeti no problem at the moment. That’s hurt but put behind and go further. Blessings

[@richardhill2451]

Wow iam just in the process of building mine from VQ but the radio is nx10 sad to see her Go beautiful plane lucky with the engine might have to get one cheers Rick

[@tonydeaton2890]

That sucks. This hobby is tough sometimes. Lost my share of warbirds overtime. Got a super cub with countless flights on it. Warbirds.......not so much.

[@av8tore71]

I've lost 3 planes with Futaba then I started using Spektrum and it's been good since