苹果M4性能分析：尽力了，但芯片工艺快到头了！

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@NCTUwisdom 7 ай бұрын

N3E 是 N3B cost down 後的版本目的在 PPA 相近之下提供更 affordable 的3奈米製程

@廖育賢-g2q 7 ай бұрын

懂得都懂O 其實是便宜版的N3

@johnchen6783 7 ай бұрын

E是 economic 不是 enhancement 若比不過N3B 也是有可能的

@林均翰-v2k 7 ай бұрын

@@johnchen6783 N3E是N3B妥協SRAM大小後的產物，都沒瑕疵的情況下N3E肯定比不過N3B，只是N3B良率太差-->太貴，沒人用得下去才出N3E

@Po-YuanChen-lp6gq 7 ай бұрын

終於看到正常腦袋的留言了........

@網癮少年-Z世代 7 ай бұрын

這樣是不是下一代會更好？好像是N3X吧？🤔 還是台積電3奈米製程技術不行了要等2奈米換新的製程技術才有差？之前好像看過一些文章是這樣說

@jerryweiwei 7 ай бұрын

M4在ipadOS的加持下只有拉動進度條的時候會快一點這功能

@을교 7 ай бұрын

哈哈哈，精辟

@Mong-Yun_Chen_54088 7 ай бұрын

聽起來好悲劇，如升(級)

@哈哈哈里斯 7 ай бұрын

一下没绷住，虽然你说的是对的

@hanson2328 7 ай бұрын

原神提升明显！

@haseoxth2010 7 ай бұрын

性能最好的观影设备！

@aaryanms 7 ай бұрын

Hey Geekerwan,👀 it feels like forever since you graced our screens on the English channel. We, your fans, hold onto those videos like treasured keepsakes. Your content back then was a breath of fresh air, and it's amazing to see you continue to create such engaging and informative videos. We miss your presence on the English channel, but more importantly, the world needs your voice. Your unique perspective and passion are a beacon of light for so many viewers. We yearn for that spark again, that energy that ignited our love for learning. Please, Geekerwan, consider returning to the English channel. It wouldn't be the same without you.😔😔 Please come back to the English channel and spread ur expertise to a wider world tooo

@juexinyidao 7 ай бұрын

据我所知近期已经在增加英语频道人手了，应该很快会增加英语视频的更新速度了。 To my knowledge, they have recently been adding more staff to the English channel, so the update speed of English videos should increase soon. (Translate using Copilot.)

@calebleasky 7 ай бұрын

Same bro🤝

@ccbb1917 7 ай бұрын

They have very limited manpower, which was not enough to support the production of English version videos. The good news is that their team has expanded, and now there are people specifically responsible for the English channel. Therefore, there will definitely be updates in the future.

@konnohe1463 7 ай бұрын

have en，but is not update 😂

@chuuni6924 7 ай бұрын

There are subtitles, you know.

@turtlechris2 7 ай бұрын

11:47 14900K那橙色功耗條笑死

@matcha929 7 ай бұрын

突破天際😂

@artinoo1234 7 ай бұрын

🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

@jerryhuang3565 7 ай бұрын

13 14代一堆都操到縮缸了，連I5都一大票回應

@chiang-0610 7 ай бұрын

完全讓姓A的看不到車尾燈

@nonbody777 7 ай бұрын

@@jerryhuang3565 缩肛是什么，请教一下。

@亦認 7 ай бұрын

iPad os 真的是唯一限制所有m系列能發揮的功用，就算m1好了，到現在iPad os 也沒有多少程式能利用完全（玩遊戲除外）

@ToBehonestly492 7 ай бұрын

也根本沒啥人在ipad上玩遊戲，寥寥可數的3A遊戲。不如老老實實及早把Mac上的滿血應用移到iPad上。

@TsengWayne 7 ай бұрын

@@ToBehonestly492 手遊多開很好用

@玄宮夜音 7 ай бұрын

@@ToBehonestly492 我之前會拿來玩跑跑卡丁車XD

@xunyap97 7 ай бұрын

真的身为一个码农 iPad对我来说除了当MacBook的第二银幕之外完全没有帮助

@tipoomaster 7 ай бұрын

The Intel power bar going off screen is hilarious

@magohanatsu 7 ай бұрын

2018年买的A12X iPad Pro，6年了还是超级流畅没有换机动力啊😂

@ThePgR777 7 ай бұрын

Been waiting this for so long

@chengyang1380 7 ай бұрын

感謝分享優質頻道 🎉

@waffenss1234567 7 ай бұрын

N2後面還有A16 , A16後面還有A14..... 再後面還有CFET 的A10 1nm世代 ......何來到頭? M3/M4只是剛好距離太近，用了相似小調整的製程, M4選擇是優先拉高良率，不能代表半導體製程到極限, 後面還有好幾個新製程在排隊等上馬

@旁觀-o7d 5 ай бұрын

SoC 與晶圓製程，會持續發展，何來盡頭之說? 換新架構是進化，而非舊架構的盡頭。除非那天人類退回 19世紀，完全不用 IC, 不然 SoC 是看不到盡頭。

@ofcakeapiece687 5 ай бұрын

@@旁觀-o7d 你知道1nm約等於10a嗎? 原子有最小不可分割性所以的確製程已經到盡頭了除非3D堆疊但那也只是架構優化不然也只能期待還在實驗室裡量子電腦

@旁觀-o7d 5 ай бұрын

@@ofcakeapiece687 你自己都講出答案了, 46 年前的 8086 CPU 只跑 5M Hz, 10 年後再來看此視頻, 肯定覺得眼界狹小.

@TurboIVB 3 ай бұрын

@@旁觀-o7d 有没有注意到从N5到N3E，SRAM密度是停滞的，光有逻辑密度提升，SRAM结构要存电荷，所以密度很难再提升了。

@cyfv17 2 ай бұрын

@@旁觀-o7d 科技进步的速率不是线性的。往往一招鲜的，边际效益越来越低。

@jaralara6429 6 ай бұрын

这么专业详细的分析也KZbin仅此一家了，还贴心地给英文字幕。字幕这块建议以后把这个上下文的“满血”翻译成 unbinned, “残血”翻译成 binned. Binning是生产时关闭CPU核的过程。

@capybaratsuta127 7 ай бұрын

等好久終於等到了

@acce787 7 ай бұрын

等了好久啊😂😂😂 終於🎉🎉🎉

@WEN-PIN 7 ай бұрын

真的是M1 iPad繼續戰用快三年體驗還是跟當初新買的一樣

@jjter6793 7 ай бұрын

在別篇說平板界沒有一個可以打贏iPad的被網友反駁，結果我說我現在用的就是M1多公雙開遊戲加直播，反而被質疑為何不用桌機😂 三開APP已經是iPad pro M1的極限了，因為功耗被鎖在40瓦或是性能極限就在那。

@使徒行者-j9q 7 ай бұрын

这跟以前的电视一样，人家已经用到面板都更新好几代了，LCD这台还老是不坏。。。你说我买那么贵就为了它耐用吗

@poohoo4997 6 ай бұрын

是这样的，我在m2的ipad发布以后，毫不犹豫地购入了ipad pro 2021

@yuhuobing6536 5 ай бұрын

@@poohoo4997 我的M1 12.9 256G wifi 现在还有两个月的保修，去年全新未开封入的库存货，相当于人民币5330。

@cyfv17 2 ай бұрын

@@使徒行者-j9q 我的4790k+970还是不舍得换😂，太耐用了。

@lewilliam7849 7 ай бұрын

雖然iPad勝在了處理器，卻輸在在iPadOS

@hdjhuy 7 ай бұрын

再認同不過

@ToBehonestly492 7 ай бұрын

但跑macos太難為他了，Macbook pro cpu室溫26的時候也得40多度，還是屏幕和主板分開的，這ipad屏幕背後就是M處理器，沒風扇，小身板，跑macos估計不跑其他應用就得50多度....

@jjter6793 7 ай бұрын

@@ToBehonestly492台灣高溫都有38度了，上五十度已經是很保守了！

@Mong-Yun_Chen_54088 7 ай бұрын

iPad Pro現在定位是真的尷尬

@SharkYu9906 7 ай бұрын

输？？？他输给谁了？论输赢要找个对等的对手啊

@阿才-f1x 7 ай бұрын

28:50 不會吧GAA和封裝還有很多可以玩呢我感覺至少近十幾年不會到頭

@Henry-kq8eh 7 ай бұрын

微軟剛推出的AI PC 也是使用arm 架構，期待M4 在Macbook 上AI 方面的表現！始終ipad OS很難發揮M4 芯片性能～

@statisticalfish 7 ай бұрын

终于等到更新了

@carson4344 7 ай бұрын

其實會不會今天的M4 是蘋果開始立項時的"M3"呢？就因為台積電N3E 推遲了所以減些架構上N3B而推出了現在的M3？

@kouroshshadman7746 7 ай бұрын

yeayyyyy, still waiting in English channel

@luckytiger123 7 ай бұрын

on now

@dysonyamagata1133 4 ай бұрын

Whether the English channel will continue to be updated depends on how many Chinese manufacturers want to promote their products on KZbin. Judging from the updates of the English channel, things are not going well.

@liuchiahan 7 ай бұрын

標題改為 FinFET 架構快到頭了就沒毛病台積電 3 奈米一口氣還規劃了 5 個版本務必壓榨出 FinFET 的最後一絲價值可說台積電彷彿是個錙銖必較的土豪至於 N3E 的好處主要是成本比 N3B 低表現還稍好一點至於總的來講到不到頭依目前技術能見度 IMEC roadmap 已規劃到 2036 年 0.2 奈米等效製程主要是架構和材料依舊持續在突破但多說無益就看未來實際進展的表現如何了

@darkakia 7 ай бұрын

太專業了，等的就是你們的解析！我好期待M4版能不能賣Mac mini，我想買一台。

@user_znrmyygswgd Ай бұрын

有而且還變小了

@hen-tai-san 7 ай бұрын

iPad Pro 是性能強橫的追劇神器，不要有其他奢望❤

@Sniper_the_seal 7 ай бұрын

追劇用途幹嘛不拿小米平板，充的快電量大處理器還是旗艦級的

@hen-tai-san 7 ай бұрын

@@Sniper_the_seal 屏幕不夠漂亮

@Sniper_the_seal 7 ай бұрын

@@hen-tai-san 確實，apple的螢幕顯示效果很不錯

@jerryhuang3565 7 ай бұрын

其實創作還滿好用的，有那個筆

@ibn5100_sg 7 ай бұрын

@@jerryhuang3565很多用ipad pro創作的繪師

@coldcoffeehk 7 ай бұрын

3nm相信會是半導體架構的極限了，雖然2nm是可以生產出來，但良率應該會極低，而換來的性能提升應該會非常之有限。現在最重要的是在3nm製程成熟的情況之下儘量以不同的架構去搾取最大的效能，這點上蘋果在沒有太多包袱的情況之下是最有可能做得到的公司。不過若果要這樣做的話蘋果可能需要將mobile跟desktop cpu的架構脫鈎，以免被對方拖後腿，影響性能表現。

@kglin1 7 ай бұрын

N3E 的出現不就是原來的N3B 良率太低成本太高大家都用不起所以放寬一些標準讓成本降低、良率提高以便於提高出貨量有了大量的出貨量才能快速提高良率本來就會比原來的N3B差才對沒看到年底一堆用N3E的晶片要上市了能讓大家用的起才是N3E本來的目的

@chijen70103 6 ай бұрын

早該如此，我的7600X現在天氣熱開機沒多久，整個反應時間就拉長，機子太熱性能根本無法發揮，反而增加了延遲反應時間。晶片是很怕熱的，一熱性能就狂掉，不然就要花幾萬買個高檔水冷系統。

@fateskyman 7 ай бұрын

12:50 加油啊AMD 全村的希望XDDDDDDDDDD

@samwu8070 7 ай бұрын

x86的生死存亡就靠amd了

@村人A-d5h 7 ай бұрын

卡卡罗特会修行带着界王拳回来的。

@tysloo81 7 ай бұрын

我只看好高通的x-elite， AMD和Intel都要靠边站，一天不换架构就没有优势可言，换Arm或risc V可能才有看头，intel唯一可以指望可能是他们晶片代工做得起来，CPU根本不看好

@skyggmax 7 ай бұрын

@@tysloo81 難吧，微軟系統不合沒推廣也沒用，看看過去的Arm本...

@jywei5785 7 ай бұрын

@@samwu8070？生死存亡？一大堆专业软件只能依赖于x86来运行诶，这些东西啥时候有arm版本再说吧

@Soranana-ft9ck 7 ай бұрын

🎉終於等到

@haerhengter 7 ай бұрын

辛苦了，看来看去还是你们的内容专业！

@WeilongYou 7 ай бұрын

不是研发效率高、而是N3E是早就计划好的，N3B是N3E没有准备好之前临时拼凑的产物，为了着急上3nm

@S7evenYap 7 ай бұрын

Hey 👋 long time follower here. Been wanting to ask, will there be a same video but in English? Or are u guys looking to do different types of content on your English channel?

@xunhuyan 7 ай бұрын

The channel is too small. There was no special person in charge of the English channel before, but now there is.

@weituo9949 7 ай бұрын

真感觉现在这里的评测已经超过LTT了

@PingAnLi 7 ай бұрын

LTT本来就是娱乐性的啊

@zizjzjjsjsj 7 ай бұрын

外網還真沒國內hardcore

@INTJ791 7 ай бұрын

GAMERS NEXUS Much better than LTT

@cts1573 7 ай бұрын

LTT是偏整节目效果的吧

@aliceWT 7 ай бұрын

现在的LTT的评测都太片面了😢

@Plo-po5mb 7 ай бұрын

手機都幾年換一次了，IPad各位又幾年換一次呢? 依舊是秀肌肉產品順便把價格往上推一把以後一般消費級產品才好跟進這才是蘋果策略！

@jerryhuang3565 7 ай бұрын

2017的Pro還在服役

@freedomtw7867 7 ай бұрын

2018的ipad pro 放到現在也沒有任何不足

@Mong-Yun_Chen_54088 7 ай бұрын

2017 10.5“ iPad Pro 服役中加一，iPad 是真的很耐用

@dysonyamagata1133 4 ай бұрын

5年

@yaetc9559 7 ай бұрын

研究帮他装个mac os

@magicryuekimpan 7 ай бұрын

utm了解一下

@InamCao-f6y 5 ай бұрын

这样就成Macbook mini了🤣

@chinglun0619 6 ай бұрын

看來可以放心買 M3 pro 的macbook pro了

@bulletpunch9317 7 ай бұрын

The optimization for apple chips must be crazy good to get such good efficiency even in gpu heavy games like star rail, if both 3dmark and gfxbench show them being worse than mtk and sd.

@brandtianliyu 7 ай бұрын

这期确实不错，点赞了

@napobg6842 7 ай бұрын

The power efficiency of Apple is actually insane! Their chips deliver higher performance witn higher power consumption but only when needed. For the majority of time, they just consumer similar or less power for higher performance. That's insane there!

@hyfcube7377 7 ай бұрын

N3E的取向不是性能跟功耗是便宜

@chuuni6924 7 ай бұрын

I'm quite surprised to see them push clock frequencies so high, especially given the regression in efficiency. On one hand, it's a bit cool to see such a wide core running so fast, but I never thought Apple would prioritize performance over battery life. Baffling.

@AhmedHasan-pt4ru 6 ай бұрын

WOW this performance review + battery test is on another level! 👏👏👏 🌹🌹

@billylinux525 7 ай бұрын

這次M4的調教策略感覺是為了未來插電的mac studio 跟 Mac pro準備的

@MrPourcelturk 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this wonderful review. I just discovered your channel and subscribed. Greetings from Türkiye :).

@user-mt7ne2vr7v 7 ай бұрын

確實台積電在先進封裝與製程有些瓶頸，但輝達有解決方案，未來芯片能效突破會更快，而且生產成本更低。

@Xbox720plus 7 ай бұрын

20:40省流精选：3nm/三纳米的N3E工艺比N3B没有进步多少（顶多3-5%几乎可以乎略不计），再次 N3B也没有比N4P进步多少。结论conclusion: N3E工艺和N4P差不多，几乎没有明显的进步。

@zongyu100 7 ай бұрын

很期待未来能有办法让ipadOS跑 MacOS或者Windows系统

@hqiu6828 4 ай бұрын

视频做得很好！准备买个iPad Pro M4，或者，Mac Mini pro M4！正在用MBA M1观看YT。

@frankzhou7453 Ай бұрын

请教一下这个视频里面的数据是怎么制作的，真的好精致啊！

@perlkingneo 5 ай бұрын

因为太专业，我能做的就是替你点个赞了。

@NeoXman8 7 ай бұрын

I can’t understand any Chinese, but thanks to English subtitles i can totally understand what you are trying to say, but i was expecting any videos on Geekarwan Eng Channel on youtube, can someone please upload some videos in English please?❤

@taekmingang4149 7 ай бұрын

They are recruiting English content makers in China😂

@王亿杰 4 ай бұрын

According to the blogger's live broadcast on bilibili, the studio has been very busy recently, so it has slowed down the update of the English channel.

@jasonyeh2309 6 ай бұрын

感謝版主精闢的分析.

@DT_us 2 ай бұрын

非常期待你们对前天发布的最新 *电脑版M4芯片* 的专业评测！

@adamzhang5966 7 ай бұрын

期待评测刚刚发布的 surface arm

@jcbcbcd 7 ай бұрын

自从用过田牌的SB2之后，我就在也不想入手任何一款田牌的笔记本电脑了

@readytogo5905 6 ай бұрын

*萎軟*那家出的sb拉基筆記本可以用以下文句來比喻: 要性能沒性能，要性價比也沒有，性價比比貧果更差

@chm10323 4 ай бұрын

24:00 就可以用全開特效看轉圈圈

@gogosoft 7 ай бұрын

坦白说，虽然说 iPad Pro 性能足以完成比较复杂的视频剪辑工作，但我个人认为，大部分人可能还是喜欢用 MacBook Pro 来剪辑吧？起码我是，所以我还是比较期待 M4 Max 芯片的发布，赶紧的，只有 M1 Max 的我已经在心动 M3 Max 了

@wzhong2479 7 ай бұрын

三星大囍？ "灣"有可能會測E2400和G3嗎？很想了解三星近況

@陳能弘-d6g 7 ай бұрын

Exynos2400有中文媒體測過了，在這邊找大米評測就能找到，結果是能效仍然不好，4LPP+(三星第三代4奈米)還是沒打過tsmc N5

@johnchen6783 7 ай бұрын

不曉得是不是有給好處，這裡竟然沒測Exynos 2400，三星經常用賤招，其實也不意外😂 三星S24 的CPU 台積電 vs 三星這麼有話題性的題目，竟然沒有？太奇怪了

@luolisave 7 ай бұрын

期待下一代GAA工艺吧，然后晶体管纵向堆叠，减少走线长度。至于FinFET，已到尽头。

@Themis_h 7 ай бұрын

我就想知道现在能不能买M3的macbook air

@tipoomaster 7 ай бұрын

Can't wait for m4 in Macs. Wish they got the Tandem OLED too but that sounds like it's further out in 2026.

@GlobalWave1 4 ай бұрын

That’s such a long time when you consider other laptops have had OLED for the past 4-5 years it feels like.

@陈晓然-c9t 7 ай бұрын

Ipad能做的事情不需要M4就能完成给ipad安一个M4也不能做更多事情（受限于ipados和产品定位，总不可能让它去抢laptap的市场）

@babibabitoo7779 7 ай бұрын

明年就是 ipad mac air/pro 了😂

@vineetkumarbharti2633 7 ай бұрын

ZEN 5 Strix Point will crush M4 in both CPU(4+8 cores), AI NPU also cost (maybe in GPU under 10 watt)

@陳小良-n6c 7 ай бұрын

不知道在ipad pro 作這麼快是要幹啥，很多mac os 的軟體也不能用，可能還是你的下一台電腦還是得mac

@freekadze 7 ай бұрын

感覺是為了未來跟chatgpt 合作的前置作業

@latkz7419 7 ай бұрын

真的去跑端侧的AI大模型，那起步内存真的不应该是8G吧

@lapland1111 7 ай бұрын

等你们好久了啊

@R3endevous 7 ай бұрын

I know that for RE4 and Death stranding you can configure the settings files to change some game settings (resolution, upscaling, texture quality). While developers should update the app, perhaps it would’ve been interesting to see how much you could push it. because at default, even for M2 the visuals look very blurry.

@fernvenue 7 ай бұрын

That guy already said that they tried to edit configuration files manually but nothing changed, some games completely locked settings :)

@R3endevous 7 ай бұрын

@@fernvenue thanks I wasn't sure of the reason through the CC translations. Eitherway, that's odd because on my iPad Pro M2 it does change, but I presume the device profile is game specific so if there's a mismatch it defaults to the highest platform profile.

@fernvenue 7 ай бұрын

@@R3endevous Yea, they did this on previous video when they play the game with M2 iPad Pro, and they did mentioned that they also wondering why on M4 iPad they can't manually edit the configuration files.

@R3endevous 7 ай бұрын

@@fernvenue aha, thank you for the clarification! :)

@fernvenue 7 ай бұрын

@@R3endevous You do mentioned a great question, so let's see what will happen when these games support M4 iPad :)

@neonoply2205 7 ай бұрын

基本上个人对性能的需求只有在游戏上了, 更普遍的是续航的需求，只使用一些最普通的app

@BigBirdEngineer 6 ай бұрын

24:00 等新的晶片可以穩定跑原神120fps 我就買❤

@張彥暉-v8p 3 ай бұрын

這代ipad pro最強的是螢幕，其他賣點都不值一提

@CCL4BELTTF 7 ай бұрын

考虑到N3E在M4的表现，如然觉得手里的15 pro max也没有那么难受了。

@henryhuang6080 7 ай бұрын

如果散热做得好一些，我就没什么抱怨了。还有就是15pm玩wild rift竟然都开不了高帧率，无语至极

@CCL4BELTTF 7 ай бұрын

@@henryhuang6080 对呀，我原神之能加散热背甲，要不然烫手

@Yanto-rv1qu 7 ай бұрын

27:16 battery test

@paulpengyang 7 ай бұрын

期待M4 Max在mac studio的散热下面满频跑起来的效果，不过看这样子M4也算是把潜力挖完全了，不改架构就没法进步了

@xunyap97 7 ай бұрын

对我来说现在的iPad就是空有一身性能只要还是用着iPad OS 就算是iPad Pro也做不了多少Pro的东西除了绘画和基本剪片调色还能做什么呢那么强大的性能留一点给码农不行吗

@nox5887 7 ай бұрын

台積已經發布1.4奈米的開發製成計畫了，四奈米也將進入便宜可以量產的階段⋯⋯ 所以到頭了？估計暫時還沒有看到盡頭至少1奈米的可能性是有了

@poohoo4997 6 ай бұрын

现在就是制程工艺对于性能没有跨越式的提升了

@norpg1674 7 ай бұрын

A17是為了2022年量產的N3設計，但後來N3趕不上A16才變成N4P，N3的design早在2022年底就準備好了，一年半後換成N3E的迭代速度還算正常。不要拿發表日期當作晶片設計完成的時間。

@Unraku-ci2qd 7 ай бұрын

A16我記得不是N4嗎？22年好像只有聯發科的天璣9200用了N4P，而蘋果的A16和高通的驍龍8Gen2都只用了N4。

@norpg1674 7 ай бұрын

@@Unraku-ci2qdN3原本預定在2022H2 MP，但這從來沒發生，第一個MP的3nm節點是N3B，design house 通常都會有設計備案，所以2022年才以N4P代打，我個人認為蘋果本來是打算跳過N4製程的，像是N7P以後，蘋果也從未採用過N6的節點，而是直接進入N5。根據semiwiki的資料 reurl.cc/r903Rr N4系列在2022年只有N4P MP，N4X沒有提到，但肯定不會在2022年MP。 N3則是明確提到會在2022H2 MP，可惜後來發現問題，導致N3失敗而改以N3B替代。 N3E則是預定2023H2 MP，可以得知M4在2023年末/2024年初就已經準備好了。

@norpg1674 7 ай бұрын

@@Unraku-ci2qd Apple A16是N4P，2022H1發表的都還是N4，天機9200是H2 release的。

@VincentLi-d6z 7 ай бұрын

就等你们了🎉

@jamesho8215 2 ай бұрын

說盡頭也是沒錯但不精確精確地來說是進步不會到頭的但進步的幅度會越來越小畢竟3nm 2nm 都已非常接近矽晶圓物理極限了

@devttt4685 7 ай бұрын

主要看啥时候降频，到底是10分钟还是8分钟。哈哈

@馬維陽 7 ай бұрын

能耗表現等N3P或是N2吧

@范哲伟 7 ай бұрын

出个带充电接口和背面带散热风扇的桌面支架，办公挺好的

@FBJiang 7 ай бұрын

让ipad装上macOS吧,每次把强大的cpu封印在pad里,有考虑过M芯片的感受吗?

@ysakgjuzz 7 ай бұрын

装上macos 才算得上真正意义的电脑💻

@mateogiordano2735 7 ай бұрын

请尝试 EXYNOS 2400

@qq_qq_qq 7 ай бұрын

EXYNOS 2400 应该算是irrelevant 吧

@mateogiordano2735 7 ай бұрын

@@qq_qq_qq 不，但我想知道它能达到某个程度有多“体面”，以及与 2200 相比提高了多少。我最想看到的是效率曲率（每瓦性能）

@ailurusltd 5 ай бұрын

没有npu的测评吗

@rodokakadia6301 7 ай бұрын

这代ipad提升最大的主要还是续航和重量和显示

@headbreakable 5 ай бұрын

14900那可是在自殺電壓下跑出來的性能XD

@mark708090 7 ай бұрын

M4配個ipadOS跟有30cm卻不舉一樣

@SagoFanHD 7 ай бұрын

Roses are red, Violets are blue, From Geekerwan I wish, Make videos in English ❤

@tsaiyiko9039 7 ай бұрын

不是有字幕吗？

@chuuni6924 7 ай бұрын

There are subtitles.

@Nemesis_678 7 ай бұрын

@@tsaiyiko9039 更方便

@SagoFanHD 7 ай бұрын

@@tsaiyiko9039 I know.

@auhgnist 7 ай бұрын

是不是physical register file的大小标反了，应该是整形378、浮点446？

@jackq2331 5 ай бұрын

好奇M4可以实现多少TFLOPS？

@qipang9271 7 ай бұрын

iphone这两年的问题不是性能而是散热，还有信号。 ipad的主要问题是，除非你是美术相关，否则一旦你毕业了，只能是流媒体启动器。

@hejeff7899 7 ай бұрын

如果苹果不在A18上使用N3P工艺。这代CPU提升估计也很有限。

@YudaOAT 7 ай бұрын

終於來了

@dongshengdi773 7 ай бұрын

Who

@royl9041 7 ай бұрын

@gangtiedashidiplomaticimmu3749 7 ай бұрын

测评挺详细🎉

@scott-richardson 7 ай бұрын

Pretty exciting time go be a tech nerd. And even more exciting to be a life-long Apple fan. Given the engineers at Apple are typically working on silicon 3+ years in advance, I can only assume that they are currently working on M6 or newer generation products right now. M5 will surely be all but complete with just final verification happening. I wonder if the M5 generation will introduce larger GPU core architecture changes? In the very least I hope that M4 Pro/Max/Ultra give us a bit of an increase in GPU cores. Be nice for M4 Pro to have 20 GPU cores, M4 Max to have 44 GPU cores and M4 Ultra to have 88 GPU cores. The 10% increase in core count, plus the 10% increase in clock speed should net a fairly reasonable uplift in GPU performance.