P3D View Group Setup

Admiring the view in P3D v4.2.
Useful resources:
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Tutorial by MHargrove: www.prepar3d.c...
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[@iandale]

I’m only a few minutes in, but appreciating the edits to reduce time 👍

[@SOUZAELS]

GREATS CAPTAIN...thank you so much for these complete tutorial...i decided to move from FSX to P3D, recently...but i was became crazy to adjust the multi screens...a big hug from BRAZIL, GOOD FLIGHTS

[@AlmostAviation]

Awesome, thanks :)

[@VliegerNL]

You are a master. Very informative and well put together! Thank you for creating these videos

[@AlmostAviation]

Well, nice of you to say so :)

[@reboke2]

Hi, I'm continually getting error messages when I close P3dv4 so have listed them and hopefully I can get some assistance. I have Orb Aust v2, Melboure and Brisbane imports installed. Here is the report: [error.0] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.1] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.3] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.2] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.4] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.5] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.6] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.7] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.8] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.10] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.9] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.13] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.12] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.11] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.16] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.14] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.15] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.19] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.17] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.20] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.21] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.23] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.22] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.24] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.25] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.26] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.27] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.28] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.29] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.30] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.32] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.33] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.31] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.34] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.35] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.36] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.37] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.38] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.39] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.41] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.40] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.42] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.43] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.45] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.44] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.47] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.48] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.46] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.49] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.50] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.51] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.52] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.53] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.55] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.54] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.57] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.58] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.59] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.60] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.61] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.63] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.64] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.65] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.66] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.67] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.68] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.69] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.70] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.71] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.72] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.73] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.74] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.75] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.76] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.77] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.78] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.79] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.80] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.81] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.82] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.83] error=Taxiway path with 0 width [error.84] error=Texture fx_Hugh_Orbx.bmp failed to load (FE_REQUEST_STATUS==13) [error.85] error=Payload station indexes should be between 1 - 8 [error.86] error=Texture fx_Hugh_Orbx.bmp failed to load (FE_REQUEST_STATUS==13)

[@AlmostAviation]

Sorry, no idea. You're better asking in the Orbx support forums.

[@9111logic]

Thank you for the in depth explanation.

[@chrmantilla]

Excelent video, you really helped me...im starting with P3D after several years flying FSX. Have a question about something i saw in your video....how do i look for a camera like the one you have attached in your hat? Is it easy to install and configure? Does it affect frame rates? Thanks!

[@AlmostAviation]

I think you are referring to TrackIR, which is what I am using to move the view. It is easy to set up for basic operation but can be adjusted very flexibly to tune it to your preferences. It no doubt has some impact on frame rates but the impact is not significant in my experience.

[@jorgedeleon75]

hello friend, I would like to ask you a question, I have a problem configuring my projectors, I have 3 projectors for my prepard 3.1 but at the moment of corner transition I get a double image or the transit lines are thinner on one screen than on another and I tried to center it and on the track it goes well for me but in other parts everything goes out of kilter, how could the visual be configured so that everything has the same perspective and the same shape and gives me a general image...?

[@AlmostAviation]

I'm not sure I can really answer this , there are too many variables. But I'd start by making sure your zoom settings are modest, so the distortion away from the centre of the image is minimised. I think you will always get some slight distortion, so with overlapping images this will lead to a mismatch. You would also need to account for the overlap in calculating your FoV settings for each view, or that will introduce other errors. I guess this is why there are (expensive) image warping and morphing products for using multiple projectors.

[@lgarcia258]

How did you open the menu at 8:33 on the upper left side of the screen? Thank you for your contribution.

[@AlmostAviation]

I think it's just the View menu.

[@dano293]

Awesome video Can you set up external wing views the same way . And how would you toggle through internal and external wings views using hat switch ?

[@AlmostAviation]

I don't know about external views. Although it might be possible to move the viewpoint far off-centre, it would still be a VC view. As I understand it, a VC view doesn't include the external model, it just includes the few bits that you can normally see from the cockpit.

[@dano293]

@@AlmostAviation I can’t even get my triple veto work . Keep getting DEVICE HUNG ERROR FROM GPU.

[@johnmheaton]

The original video you mentioned was how I chanced across your channel originally. So much water under the bridge since then. Thank you for the continuing valuable information.

[@kin_shing_tchang]

Thanks for the great video. With the tips you gave in your video, I've managed to setup a configuration of my own with a 3 display setup in P3DV4 (v4.4). I do have some issues however due to the fact that I'm using this on a laptop. Basically I have 2 external 22 inch monitors for left and right views and my 15,5 inch laptop display for my forward view. All three displays have a resolution of 1920 x 1080. I would like to have a fourth monitor for my instruments, but I don't think my laptop is powerfull enough to handle a fourth display. Now because I have different size displays, it makes configuring this in view management a bit more complicated. I have had to use the pitch parameter on my laptop display (forward view) to compensate for the different size. I'm basically pitching up a little (about 2°). My question is, do I base my view angle measurements solely on the laptop display as this is the one used for the forward view? How would you configure such a setup with different size displays? Any chance we could discuss this in private mails or chats? Thanks for all the tips and info in your video. Hope to hear from you soon. Kind regards Dave

[@AlmostAviation]

You should set up each display according to your measurement of its actual field of view from where you are sitting. This will, of course, be different for the 15.5" laptop and the external 22" displays. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.

[@kin_shing_tchang]

@@AlmostAviation Hi. Thanks for the reply. OK. But for the heading field of the left and right views, I would presume that I should use the angle of view figure of the centre screen to swing left/right. Is this correct?

[@AlmostAviation]

@@kin_shing_tchang [EDITED!] No, I think you need to make the heading offset for the left screen half of the centre screen FOV plus half of the left screen FOV. Think of it like this. First you imagine swivelling the leftmost view by half the centre screen's FOV. This position marks the leftmost edge of the middle screen, or the rightmost edge of the left screen. To get to the centre of the leftmost screen you need to swivel a further distance equal to half of its FOV. If you imagine for simplicity your middle screen has a FOV of 50 degrees and the outer screens are half the size of the middle one, with a FOV of 25 degrees. So in the view group setup the left screen has these values in the 'SideAngles' table for the ViewFrustum: Left = -12.5, Right = 12.5, and in the OffsetPBH table you have Pitch = 0, Bank = 0, Heading = -37.5. (If that doesn't make sense just stop after the first sentence and try that!)

[@kin_shing_tchang]

@@AlmostAviation OK I'll try that, but I'm not sure if I understand your figures for the side angles though. We'll see. 8-) Thanks once again for your patience and the information!

[@kin_shing_tchang]

@@AlmostAviation Ah the 'SideAngles' settings for the left screen makes more sense now! 8-) Done what you suggested and everything works out. Thanks once again! Just one last thing. I notice that the left and right views are bit tilted down in relation to the front view. Hope you understand what I mean. Say you have a fence in the front view that runs horizontally. When you pan around and put the fence in both front view and one of the side views, then the fense line is still flat on the front view but on the side view it is running in a slightly tilted downwards direction. Shouldn't it also be completely flat?

[@dromer1967]

Hi Mark, I know this is an 'old' video but I hope you are still reading the comments :) I have had much help of your videos in setting up my three screen view in p3d v4.5 for the A2A 172 virtual cockpit. However I am now making the transition to using a separate monitor for my instruments, using air manager. My question is, how do you get 'rid' of the large virtual cockpit when using a separate monitor for the instrumentspanel? I don't want the instruments in my main view now but they are there in the virtual cockpit. How did you manage the settings in p3d using for example A2A 172 so you don't see as much of the cockpit in the 'main' window?

[@AlmostAviation]

From memory, just right-click on the view, select ‘cockpit’ and then ‘cockpit’ instead of ‘virtual cockpit’!

[@hanksullivan]

Very informative. I'm doing a 4 monitor set up, as soon as all the hardware comes it. Question, what means were you utilizing to zoom and pan around during the video?

[@AlmostAviation]

I am zooming just using the keyboard (-/=) keys. For panning you are probably noticing that I use TrackIR.

[@hwh827]

I have watched this a number of times while upgrading my FltSim system (now P3D v5.1) and it has been absolutely invaluable to me with my three screen setup! Still a excellent, informative presentation after 2 years! Thanks very much !!

[@AlmostAviation]

Thanks, now we're just waiting for Asobo to catch up so we can do it in MSFS 2020!

[@CaptainBuzzBee]

Thanks again for putting up this tutorial. I've finally figured out how to do this correctly. Still playing with bezel and positioning up and down as my setup is 1 - 27" and 2 - 24" inch displays, but this helps tremendously. I used your numbers as a good starting point and am pleased.

[@AlmostAviation]

Glad it helped. For more info on viewgroups make sure you also watch the follow-up ('view group madness') video and also this one around the 9-minute mark): kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpW4cqZ5a9KtkKM.

[@danp1975]

Fantastic video thank you! Do you recommend flying in full screen? I have a very similar setup as you but a 20” touchscreen for a gps/vpilot monitor. Full screen seems to cause problems with the 4th monitor even though it’s not part of my view group. Also do you use ezdok or chase plane with this setup?

[@AlmostAviation]

Thanks. I was using EZCA with this setup but in my later videos you will see I have abandoned TrackIR and the virtual cockpit so it is no longer necessary. I have had no issues with full-screen mode. BTW, I have read that there is an option in P3Dv4.3 to compensate for geometric distortion, which allow you to run a single super-wide view without the stretching you would normally see. This should give a performance advantage, although it would not be possible to run the setup I show here (or indeed my latest setup) with a single view.

[@chrisfev01]

Great video? Thank you! I'm planning a three monitor setup similar to what you have here -- but I will also be using a fourth monitor for Air Manager. Do you know if the Air Manager monitor is setup in Prepar3d, or is that handled via the Air Manager software?

[@AlmostAviation]

No need to set it up in P3D. Assuming you are using a a view group, just leave your fourth monitor out of it. I think ;) I am using AM on a separate machine so I can't comment on the details...

[@ah-pg3ts]

Excellent video which I followed and learnt a lot from - Thank You. Problem came when I set up my three new 27" Samsung G7 Monitors and fourth touch screen. Setting up a view group as your video, despite not including the 4th touch screen it the view group does not respect the monitor ID numbers as identified in Windows or Nvidia control panel, i.e. the are mixed up. Also oddly, forgetting my created view group, if I enable the automatic spread across monitors options, the order is ok, but it drops the resolution on the left and right ones and creates black bars on each side of the view as it the monitor is 4:3 aspect, but leaving the centre one correct on 2560 x 1440? Cant find any similar problems on the Internet, any ideas?

[@AlmostAviation]

For the viewgroups, I have found that any adjustments to the Windows monitor settings can change the id numbers, so I just have to go into the view group setup and figure out which is which. As for your second problem, I can't say what might be going wrong.

[@ah-pg3ts]

@@AlmostAviation Thanks for coming back on this, yes its a mystery. The left and right monitors were originally two lower resolution ones, so its almost as if P3d is still thinking those are still there! Maybe one of the config XML files is holding that data. Do you know if you delete say viewgroups.xml then P3d will create a new on when it starts up?

[@AlmostAviation]

@@ah-pg3ts Yes, probably. I have had good results sorting out such issues by deleting all the sections that look like [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA (etc.)] in the p3d.cfg file. It just recreates them when you restart.

[@ah-pg3ts]

You were right, I found incorrect resolution settings in the p2d.cfg file, deleted these and bingo,it worked! Still have the monitor ID numbers all mixed up but I've worked around that. Now playing with Frustrum angle set up. Not far off, but one last question if I may. The horizon looks lined up until I bank the aircraft and then both the left and right areas now move to be at an angle to the centre one? Guess I've got something wrong with the Frustrum angles?

[@AlmostAviation]

@@ah-pg3ts This is all a bit of a distant memory, but make sure you select the 'flat' projection algorithm for your viewgroup. I talked about this in the 'Cockpit Conversations #14' video (from about 9 mins in) here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpW4cqZ5a9KtkKM

[@kirkstenvall8892]

Wonderful! Thank you for recording this tutorial.

[@watrski]

This is brilliant,I cant believe how easy this was with your tut.I have tried many times before with poor results,thanks a million!

[@AlmostAviation]

Great, thanks for the feedback!

[@thorshammer5166]

What a great tutorial, this saved me countless hours and answered several questions I had. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this and know that you are helping others!

[@AlmostAviation]

Awesome, thanks!

[@GeorgeGoosen]

How did you end up setting up the small monitor with GPS etc? etc?

[@AlmostAviation]

You just don't include the fourth monitor in the view group. Then you can just open the 2D popup GPS, undock it and drag it to that monitor.

[@jmoss2407]

Great video mate! I'm currently building a 737 Simulator at home. I am running 2 x 55 INCH 4k TVs and 1 x 40 INCH TV as the main display (similar to your 3 main displays). I am then also running 3 smaller monitors as 1 monitor with the use of a Triple Head 2 Go DE for my 2D instrument displays (PFD, ND displays etc.). I am able to start the sim and drag the virtual cockpit so it takes up the 3 TV's and I am able to undock and move the 2D displays to the correct position but when I go to full screen mode the monitors all become jumbled and 2 of the smaller instrument display monitors turn off. I suspect it is a graphics card issue. Any assistance regarding my matter would be fantastic mate! I just want it to run ok in full screen with the 2D un docked windows staying in the correct positions. I am running a GTX 1660, Prepar3D 4.5, PMDG 737NG. Thanks mate!

[@AlmostAviation]

If you are dragging the VC onto your main monitors it sounds like you aren't using a View Group. I think your success will depend on lots of different factors: what graphics card(s) you have, how you have the main display configured (Surround or not), whether you can actually get your graphics card to use four outputs simultaneously (I never could) and whether it will allow one of these to be a TH2GO. Along similar lines, I would think there will be a question of whether a View Group will correctly see the TH2GO as one screen. In summary, too many variables for me to have any real idea :|

[@jmoss2407]

@@AlmostAviation thanks for the quick reply mate. Do you have a website or email I can use to send a detailed email about my issue? It would be much appreciated. Thanks mate.

[@tat007]

Hello and thanks for the very informative video. I have a question though : what is the difference between a 3 projector set up using nvidia surround (with warping and blending software) and setting one viewgroup view as 180 degrees wide and 40 degrees deep say, or as is my case, a th2Go ? I don't really ubderstand the difference between 3 separate outputs in viewgroups (say 50 or 60 degrees each as in the tutorial) and one warped and blended output showing 180 degrees wide field of view? Sorry for rambling... Cheers anyway

[@AlmostAviation]

The difference is in how the image is projected. Using a standard 'flat' projection algorithm, such as you get with FSX or P3D without View Groups, the image in increasingly stretched outwards as you move away from the centre. Within a certain tolerance this stretching is relatively insignificant, but with a really wide (or really tall) display it becomes very noticeable. If you use the same projection algorithm but create several smaller images, which are adjacent or overlapped, you get a much less-distorted view. The smaller the views, the better they will line up. With a View Group, you can also tell P3D to use a cylindrical or spherical projection algorithm, which I presume adjusts the image to compensate for it being projected onto a curved surface instead of a flat plane. This should make it look more natural if you have your screens wrapped around you (i.e. angled inwards). Perhaps it also suggests that using a View Group with the cylindrical projection and a single 180-degree wide display should look more natural than the one you get with nvidia Surround or TH2GO, but I have not tried this.

[@tat007]

@@AlmostAviation Thank you for taking the time and for such a speedy response.

[@AZWildk4t]

Great video and used it to setup my dual monitor. However, I have a puzzling issue. I have 2 32" LG QHD monitors (2560 x 1440). I have them side-by-side so I can expand the cockpit window. Everything is setup how I want it except for 1 problem. The monitor for the FO is tilted away (z-axis) by some 10-15 degrees. I would like it flat like the CAPT side. Do you know what I would need to change on the right monitor to have 0 deg on the Z-axis? Do I play with the OffsetXYZ 'z' setting?

[@AlmostAviation]

Can't be too specific without really knowing what's going on, but it seems more likely you need to tweak the OffsetPBH 'B' (bank) setting.

[@AZWildk4t]

Thanks. I rewatched the video and saw have you changed the Y-axis to also get the scenery. I think i need to adjust the Bank. Let me try that and will send a picture if it doesn’t work

[@AlmostAviation]

@@AZWildk4t I have not had success with the XYZ offsets and I think in my final setup I use the P (pitch) to get the horizon to line up. I still don't really understand the geometry fully and have not found any comprehensive documentation.

[@donwhyte9855]

Mark thanks for your helpful tutorial which kickstarted me on the road to understanding viewgroups. The viewgroup I set up worked quite well (after I fixed the typo's in the frustrum values) and I achieved quite acceptable performance on my old system. But when returning to no viewgroups I noticed the Spot plane view had a weird behaviour where if I resized the window the plane would show as stretched or shortened and not adjust itself to correct proportions. Have you seen this? I deleted the Prepar3d.cfg file, cameras.cfg file and Shaders folder to no avail. I had temporarily experimented with a 4th screen of HDMI 1920x1080 during the viewgroup setup- maybe that had some effect as It was behaving strangely too. (Windows 7, Prepar3d v 3.4, Nvidia GTX 670, 3 screens for windscreen view) Don Whyte

[@AlmostAviation]

Can't say I have seen that, but I rarely use the spot view so maybe it's happening and I haven't noticed :) I would have used Spot view when I made the GAS Stearman video, with a single screen and no viewgroups, so that worked okay.

[@donwhyte9855]

@@AlmostAviation I was able to resolve the problem I had with corrupted Spot view. I looked again at the Viewgroups manager and found that the Displays Configuration 1 appeared incorrect with wrong values in the Display Number and Adapter Number values. I recall I was playing around with the Display Configuration and screwed it up. I deleted that Configuration 1 and the Auto-Fill Desktop file. The default Prepar3d scenario now works normally, so I went into my saved scenarios and deleted the ones that showed a corrupt spot view. When I create a new scenario all looks normal now.

[@Driver170]

Hi, i have a Samsung curved 78” front screen. Do you think curved screens will be a problem for a multi monitor setup

[@AlmostAviation]

No, I think a curved monitor is for all intents and purposes the same as a flat one.

[@Driver170]

Almost Aviation Thanks. I’m going to be adding a 65” also for the left side. I have a homecockpit 737 and following and learning your tutorial before i do this. How do you think frame rates will be when having two view groups running on a single GTX1080ti

[@Driver170]

Almost Aviation Also to mention, i have Ezdok cameras and set my own zoom. When setting up two view groups can i still use EZCA

[@AlmostAviation]

I'm not sure what you mean by two view groups. I guess you mean one viewgroup with two screens? I think the performance will depend largely on the resolution. I use 3x1080p, which is a struggle on a GTX1070. If you have two 1080p on a 1080ti that would make me much more optimistic for performance.

[@AlmostAviation]

I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't expect EZCA to be compatible with viewgroups.

[@bhorv67]

I was looking for a way to learn how to setup multiple monitors, and this seemed to be the only one I could find. Fine job on explaining the process. I am however having some odd results following the process. As I'm setting up each view (I have 2 monitors), I clicked on the new view group I created in P3d, when the view switched, what I saw looked nothing like what you're getting - all the textures in the scene were gone. what I see is something like a vector only type of view (like something from a very early version of FSX). If I then choose the 'none' group, the view returns to normal. I should mention that I do have Chaseplane installed, so maybe that is affecting what's going on. Any ideas?

[@AlmostAviation]

Sorry, I have not seen this.

[@donwhyte9855]

When setting up viewgroups for the first time I typo'd the numbers way wrong in the screen frustrums. It produced some wild effects like inverse video and upside down images. Check that you don't have minus values where they should be positive or very large numbers like 10000 instead of 10.

[@AlmostAviation]

@@donwhyte9855 Right. Putting the numbers in the wrong places can easily put you underground, in which case it looks like your video card has fried itself. I only recognised this because it looks a bit like when you have a mesh problem and sink through the runway.

[@bhorv67]

@@AlmostAviation That's what it was. Got it sorted. After I tried it for a while, I realized it's killing my FPS. Went back to one screen. I think this is happening because my main display is 4k and I'm trying to add a second window on a 1080 display. It's just too much for the 1080ti.

[@saxhorn1508]

Why didn’t you use the roll correction on the side displays to straighten out the runway edges, for example?

[@AlmostAviation]

Did you notice that the runway edges were bent while the horizon was straight? Roll doesn't fix that.

[@donwhyte9855]

Good point. How are the runways edges best corrected?

[@AlmostAviation]

@@donwhyte9855 If I knew that I would correct them :) I have experimented a bit more recently and I still can't get it any better. I am thinking maybe I need to have the side screens angled inwards a bit more and it will look better. That's not possible to do in my current setup, so I can't really try it.

[@brixo1033]

Many thanks for taking the time and effort for this. The P3D wideview with the distortion in the edges took the shine off it all for me. Did you ever get to the bottom of fixing the initial zoom at 1.0?

[@AlmostAviation]

I'm not sure what you are referring to without watching the whole video again. That said, there is no reason to presume that a zoom of 1.0 has any special significance. After more experiments I concluded that P3D knows what the zoom factor should be for the angle of view you set up and doesn't allow you to change it. (In fact it will let you zoom in but not out.) To put it another way, if you use view groups it won't allow you to set unrealistically wide zoom factors. Zooming never really made sense to me anyway.

[@brixo1033]

@@AlmostAviation Never made sense to me - I just want a realistic 3 monitor setup without distortion that gave a good field of vision... now I am looking at your Saitek Yoke modifications... as I cannot stump up the £££ for a yoko! Thanks again for taking the time to make this - saved me my sanity!

[@AlmostAviation]

@@brixo1033 As for the Saitek, have a look at the Honeycomb Alpha yoke, which is currently on pre-order from Aerosoft at 219 Euros (or Honeycomb at $219). This is looking like it will be a Saitek killer, if not quite a Yoko. Perhaps it will even give the Yoko a run for its money. I will probably get one in time to review, although perhaps not the first generation...

[@davidwilkinson4969]

Hi there Mark. Thanks for this video - really helpful. I have an 8 monitor sim with 5 of them dedicated to views. These worked perfectly in XP11 to give me a FOV of about 220°. Now I am trying to get started with P3Dv5 and am assuming this method would work in my sim. Is that right?

[@AlmostAviation]

I don't have v5 but I assume it will work the same. It's actually quite similar to X-Plane setup, I think.

[@davidwilkinson4969]

@@AlmostAviation . Hi Mark. Thanks for your response. I set up the 5 displays according to your tutorial. As you say, the process is similar to XP11 but I found that with P3Dv5 it is a bit more convoluted. Two questions come out of the exercise:- 1. How do I get rid of the default forward view? "View00" seems to remain as an extra image, initially concealed behind my third display, then when I finished the 5 display view group setup this view came to the front, completely ruining the look of the view group. 2. Can I make this work as scenery only, without having to show the virtual cockpit?

[@AlmostAviation]

@@davidwilkinson4969 Sorry, I don't know about the "View00" thing, although perhaps you can just close the window? As for your second question, I have found that with the viewgroup active, all the usual view changes work - so you can change the view to 'cockpit' instead of 'virtual cockpit' for an outside-only view (which is what I generally use). Maybe that helps.

[@davidwilkinson4969]

@@AlmostAviation Thanks for such a swift reply. I'll experiment with those ideas. Cheers. BTW - I enjoyed the humour of your introduction to the "Viewgroups Madness" video.

[@AlmostAviation]

@@davidwilkinson4969 Those eyebrows have got to be useful for something :)

[@dezh6083]

Great tutorial as always keep tinkering ha ha