PA 3x Micro Prism, Better Than an ACOG?

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Brass Facts

Brass Facts

Күн бұрын

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@4thbx
@4thbx 2 жыл бұрын
It's time Brass Facts was held accountable for preaching mandatory magnification. Just the other day I took my Aimpoint equipped rifle to the range and two goons with Brass Facts patches on their PCs approached me. After slapping my rifle out of my hand and and dumping a beer on me they yelled "THIS IS MAGNI-COUNTRY" and fled. I was literally shaking.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
Good, you keep that aimpoint out of MANGI country. Nova is shaking her head at you rn.
@AlphaChimpEnergy
@AlphaChimpEnergy 2 жыл бұрын
Ruffians!
@adamgonzalez7450
@adamgonzalez7450 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@louispaull6657
@louispaull6657 2 жыл бұрын
Based and glass pilled
@AlphaChimpEnergy
@AlphaChimpEnergy 2 жыл бұрын
@@louispaull6657 that diopter keeps you clearly woke!
@MGMan37
@MGMan37 2 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if they shoved this tiny prism and their 1x tiny prism into a rotating body and made a cheap version of the Elcan 1-4.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
yes please!
@Mills141
@Mills141 Жыл бұрын
Wolf something or another makes a russian one but it doesn't work 🤷
@int19h
@int19h Жыл бұрын
@@Mills141 You're probably referring to the NPZ PO 1/4x. I have one, and the switching works fine, but image and eyebox is noticeably inferior to Elcan on either magnification, and illumination is horrible quality while eating batteries for breakfast. And they made it FFP on top of that, which means that the reticle is too small on 1x and too large on 4x.
@roryhennessey1983
@roryhennessey1983 Жыл бұрын
I've always loved the elcan but it's just way too chonky and expensive. I bought the 3x slx and love it. Give primary arms a couple more years at the rate they are going they'll have something similar in quality for less than half the price.
@joshdoddadbod
@joshdoddadbod 4 ай бұрын
​@@roryhennessey1983let's hope so.
@PolymerLad
@PolymerLad 2 жыл бұрын
Magnification for that little weight is pretty impressive Good review.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
thank you polymer man
@talltale9760
@talltale9760 2 жыл бұрын
Why is your name familiar
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@talltale9760 I'm not sure difficult-to-believe story man
@craftygnome97
@craftygnome97 Жыл бұрын
I've had this on my AR for about 5 range sessions and each trip im falling more and more in love with it, especially as a dude working with one rifle that i like to keep pretty light, the capability it gives me for the weight is phenomenal. It pretty much does everything I ask of it at all close to midrange scenarios without to much fuss or complexity.
@11pack09
@11pack09 2 жыл бұрын
Sitting right in front of the TV as a kid to “see more” vs on the couch. I felt that. Great stuff.
@tech6263
@tech6263 2 жыл бұрын
It would be really great if they could get them out to the people that pre paid.
@OneLocalStudent
@OneLocalStudent 2 жыл бұрын
I got mine 2 days after I pre-paid. You should reach out to them if you still haven't gotten yours from the first lot.
@Saltyketchup688
@Saltyketchup688 2 жыл бұрын
How i feel about the Digitrigger 2.2 lol
@Devin_Milford
@Devin_Milford 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one that was still waiting for my "April shipment".
@scoodles93
@scoodles93 2 жыл бұрын
@@Devin_Milford im waiting too same with 2 other friends :(
@tech6263
@tech6263 2 жыл бұрын
@@OneLocalStudent I have. I was told that people who placed order after a certain date would have to wait longer. I placed my order two months earlier than the date stated. You would think I was waiting on a silencer or something.
@schizosaint777
@schizosaint777 2 жыл бұрын
You are one of my motivators for hiking and training with my rifle. I look up to you dude, keep it up 👍
@sixfivearms8896
@sixfivearms8896 2 жыл бұрын
If the reticle is as small as shown in the video view through the optic, the "horse shoe" seems VERY necessary. Unless that doesn't accurately represent real life, it seems to me the chevron would VERY easily get lost in the clutter without the horse shoe drawing in the eye for quick shooting up close. Am waiting for FDE version....
@PastaLaVista.
@PastaLaVista. 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the last version and for me the horseshoe is a non issue and I would definitely want it if I had to shoot fast close up
@clay17_59
@clay17_59 2 жыл бұрын
I got the 1x version and it is pretty big and makes sense for CQB but doesn't make much sense on 3x imo
@charliebrownsd
@charliebrownsd 2 жыл бұрын
It would seem that way, but in practice it's actually very easy to pick up for fast shots, I'm much quicker with this than a regular red dot. When taking precise shots you can slow down and easily see the reticle and markings for distance. I thought it was going to lose it too with the 1X model. Once I got it and ran it on both 2 AR Pistols in 556 and 9mm I immediately bought the 9mm version so I had the correct reticle. They are great and I am now a PA optics fan boy. I still watch the reviews of them to make sure, but I'm now I'm deciding between the 1- 6 LPVO FFP or just running this 3X on my lightweight training AR15.
@sixfivearms8896
@sixfivearms8896 2 жыл бұрын
@@charliebrownsd I'm also a PA FB. Got their 1-6 LPVO FFP on my 16" 6.5 Grendel. Like it, but, realistically, I don't need its capabilities. For 95% of my shooting, I'm thinking the 3x MicroPrism will fit the bill. Keep it lightweight, keep it simple.
@davebona9592
@davebona9592 2 жыл бұрын
@@sixfivearms8896 my thoughts also
@GNpatent
@GNpatent 2 жыл бұрын
WE GET IT You have a drone
@romes9465
@romes9465 Жыл бұрын
This thing is a little tank, I left it out in the field, in the rain and snow for a month or so and when I came back for it, it still functioned w no problems whatsoever . For this reason alone I’d definitely compare it favorably to a kind of baby’s first ACOG but w better eye relief, none of the cringe factor, and you don’t have to take out a second mortgage to get your hands on one. Very impressed with Primary Arms and I’ll probably pick up another one in future, this time in FDE.
@dogevanzandt2889
@dogevanzandt2889 Жыл бұрын
Cringe factor? Ok poor.
@trainwisefitness1377
@trainwisefitness1377 2 жыл бұрын
I run the 1x version of this with their 3x micro magnifier that combo has been great for everything I need from my “mock 18” build. Thanks for these reviews. I really enjoy your reviews and survival tips.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@trainwisefitness1377
@trainwisefitness1377 Жыл бұрын
@@rjnoj-xb5kq no you don’t have to adjust the 1x every time. Once you get it dialed in it is good to go. It does take a few minutes to get them both dialed in but nothing too bad. Adjust the focus on both the magnifier and the prism till you get the the right picture.
@trainwisefitness1377
@trainwisefitness1377 Жыл бұрын
@@rjnoj-xb5kq yes the eye relief is is reduced but not in not in a big way. I can still shoot with my eye 12 inches away from the magnifier. It’s not as good as the relief with the prism alone
@jacobk1160
@jacobk1160 2 жыл бұрын
Great review man! Your content is steadily becoming my favorite to view, whether it’s gear related or your survival videos. I currently rock a 1x slx with a holosun 3x magnifier on one of my builds.
@ryaniam22
@ryaniam22 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird how an optic can have a huge fov in feet, both be 3x magnification, and one 'feels' like a much bigger more immersive fov. That I belive is called APOV (apparent fov). Is is a premium optic eyepiece design and why elcans, acogs, and hensoldts cost double or triple. These are light because they have less lenses in the eyepiece specifically and can use a much smaller prism because of this. It's also why primary arm 1-8 and similar cost optics have good fov numbers but in use feel way harder to use after using premium lpvo
@ConfucianScholar
@ConfucianScholar 2 жыл бұрын
The horse shoe is supremely helpful for CQB. The author misses that completely. This scope has a perfect balance between CQB and mid range capability.
@ninjadave1970
@ninjadave1970 2 жыл бұрын
I got one in 7.62x39 and 300 Blackout! In the woods and mountains of East Tennessee, your sighting distance isn't very far, unless you're hunting in a Powerlines clearing or in open fields. Heck Bigfoot could walk right by you here, and you'd never see him! Now I have to figure out what to use it on my Q Honey Badger or Sig 556r...
@Prodigysportsman
@Prodigysportsman 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up! Western mountains bro, there is nothing else!
@ryaniam22
@ryaniam22 2 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to a 3x acog? TA33 or Ta50
@borkwoof696
@borkwoof696 2 жыл бұрын
A 3x scope is never good for CQB
@redacted4033
@redacted4033 Жыл бұрын
@@ninjadave1970I’m debating that for my 300blk. I got a red dot for it thinking of it as a brush gun but often find myself wanting a little magnification. Torn between adding a 3x magnifier or something like this for simplicity
@gurkane4080
@gurkane4080 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tried the PA version but I have been using the 3x vortex and really like it. The size of these things is pretty incredible for what they can do.
@borkwoof696
@borkwoof696 2 жыл бұрын
Red dot size with 3x magnification is pretty epic. A top pic rail for an rds would be even better but probably wouldn’t work well with nods
@ozarkman291
@ozarkman291 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever get to try the pa micro? If so how would you say it compares to the vortex? Trying to decide between the two
@thenamesPRINDLE
@thenamesPRINDLE Жыл бұрын
@@ozarkman291did you decide on one yet?
@ozarkman291
@ozarkman291 Жыл бұрын
@@thenamesPRINDLE I ended up getting the primary arms 3x and the 2x since the reticles seemed to be bolder and faster at speed than the vortex 3x. Also the bdc in the PA ones seemed like they were a lot simpler to use with my caliber. I prefer the footprint and mounting options of the vortex but mini acog mounts can still be found for not too much from eurooptic. I may pick up a vector 3x or more likely a 4x since they're affordable and the OEM for vortex prisms which is very interesting. I can't really say if I prefer the 2x or 3x though. I feel like about 200/250 and in the 2x is better and it certainly is faster up close. Past 250 the 3x is better for targets beyond 300 or so I'd prefer more magnification personally. For short to mid range I'm loving both though. Glass on the 2x is better but the reticle on the 3x is better. I feel like the 2x is kind of a red dot and magnifier alternative and the 3x is more of poorcog. I liked both enough to give up my lpvo (PST) and go fully to prisms. The weight savings and consistent sight picture with ffp reticle that stays good the whole way is awesome. If I want higher mag I'll likely just go to mpvo or higher honestly but that's beyond the scope of a gpr setup in my opinion. Anyway apologies for the blog post response but in too many words that's where I'm at now
@boxingfan2469
@boxingfan2469 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was waiting for. Thank you for reviewing this micro prism
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
your welcome
@skyhop
@skyhop 2 жыл бұрын
I use one on my AR10. I wasn't expecting much for the night vision performance, but it surprised me. First magnified optic I've used that felt useable with a PVS14 on my head. My elcan OS4x doesn't work very well for me with night vision, and my acogs... Well the tritium causes a problem. The weight is why I bought it, as I was trying to get a fully featured AR10 down into AR15 weight, and it gets me there. If they went to a fatter chevron, no horseshoe, and with brighter illumination, I'd consider it perfect for what it's trying to do. It's pretty close as it is.
@VincitOmniaVeritas7
@VincitOmniaVeritas7 2 жыл бұрын
You mean thinner chevron?
@skyhop
@skyhop 2 жыл бұрын
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 The chevron is already extremely thin, if anything it could be significantly fatter.
@VincitOmniaVeritas7
@VincitOmniaVeritas7 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyhop really? Brass facts and Hop (the guys shooting in this video) apparently prefer a thinner reticle because the chevron kept hiding the targets between 50-200 yards. For its intended use, shooting human sized target (and not metal poppers at distance) this reticle size seems to work well. But it’s interesting you would prefer it thicker. Different folks, different strokes. I have a ACSS CQB red dot and the BDC is unusable without the magnifier behind it, because it’s so small at 1x. I wish the reticle was larger and the chevron thicker, like on a ACSS Vulcan seems to be.
@skyhop
@skyhop 2 жыл бұрын
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 Once you use an acog with a straight up triangle reticle, it's hard to argue with the effectiveness. So what if it covers the target, irons do half the time too, you can work around it. If you want a benchrest optic then you'd be better off with a crosshair.
@chrisrogers4242
@chrisrogers4242 2 жыл бұрын
What ammo do you use and how does the bdc work?
@PNW_Sportbike_Life
@PNW_Sportbike_Life 2 жыл бұрын
That just looked like a ton of fun man! Just picked up the Cyclops ACSS 1X Gen 2 and I like it a lot; It's used on a .300.
@GrendalTheBeasty
@GrendalTheBeasty 2 жыл бұрын
I got one after seeing this review, very happy with it so far (in store pickup). I was on the fence between this and getting another PA GLX 2x prism (have one on an AK). Compared to that, this one has comparable glass quality but a tighter eye box (but what doesn't?). That said, it's a better eye box than any other optic I have in this price range at 3x. The reticle is pretty nice in it. It's not at all crowded and seems about the right size for a 3x. The only complaint I have is that the stadia and wind holds aren't illuminated. They disappear against darker targets as you'd expect. Biggest take away I have from it is that it's a truly tiny optic that doesn't seem to sacrifice anything to achieve the small size. The FoV, eye relief, eye box and optical quality are all pretty good at any price point, nevermind $320. FYI, my crappy scale shows it at 8.4 Oz with the standard AR height cantilever mount. That's just stupid imho. It doesn't seem possible. I recommend this over the Vortex Spitfire HD Gen 2 and Sig Bravo 3. I have both of those, so this is first hand experience. The GLX 2x is kind of a red dot/prism hybrid thing, so this doesn't compete directly. I think they are of similar quality though, maybe a slight edge to the SLX Micro 3x simply due to how awful the battery cover is on the GLX.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
you got one after you saw the review? Oh man haha The people that preorder in feb and still don't have it won't be happy to hear that.
@GrendalTheBeasty
@GrendalTheBeasty 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrassFacts Heh, I went to the physical PA store here in Houston. They had a few open box/returns available. Most weren't any good (broken diopter, bad illumination) but one had a tiny spot dark spot that only appears in the very top of the horseshoe when at max brightness and looking at a white wall with a weapon light pointed at it. I grabbed that one. In non-fake conditions I can't see said spot and it doesn't hurt anything even when visible. I was told they have a small batch coming in soon to take care of returns but wasn't told anything about them coming off of back order yet.
@discoversunshine
@discoversunshine Ай бұрын
Do you still recommend this optic?
@cadian122
@cadian122 2 жыл бұрын
I love what PA and Vortex are doing with the Micro 3x and Spitfire Gen 2 ... They are really driving down the price of prismatic optics while offering amazing weight and a reticle that lends itself to excellent sub 100 yard use... The fact the PA and Vortex have been making quality Prisms for 10 to 15 years gives me piece of mind that these products are here too stay... I plan on buying one of each the PA and Vortex for 2 of my fighting rifles ...
@PastaLaVista.
@PastaLaVista. 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they are working on a micro 5x. Only reason I didn’t get their 5x prism is the size. Idk what the limiting factors are with scopes and size. We’ve had magnification for centuries and they’re just now finding out they can make them smaller??
@joshb5719
@joshb5719 2 жыл бұрын
My friend has the older 5x and the FOV is very tight. Hopefully these newer PA prisms improve in that aspect.
@g.4279
@g.4279 2 жыл бұрын
The difficultly is making them affordable, not the capabilities. Primary arms is targeting the $300-$400 range for their optics.
@jacobbabcock2511
@jacobbabcock2511 2 жыл бұрын
@@g.4279 yeah I don’t have much knowledge on scope physics and the market but I’d assume people wanting to spend a bit more will get an ACOG from trijicon
@ryaniam22
@ryaniam22 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshb5719 It expensive but if huge...literally huge eyebox is what you are after try a hensoldt 4x30 prism scope. 16 oz with built in quick detach mount. Massive FOV that is like 20% bigger than the ta31 acog. Eyebox is about eyepiece design not just exit pupil and it seems no one except zeiss wants to make a flexible eyebox. Some are OK. But ever S&Bs are tight sometimes. These still look cool because they are so light though
@joshb5719
@joshb5719 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryaniam22 I prefer LPVOs personally
@AS-mt4co
@AS-mt4co 2 жыл бұрын
Undefeated intros
@__MAT__
@__MAT__ 2 жыл бұрын
Excellently worded, as always. Thanks for taking me along.
@MrSparky1791
@MrSparky1791 2 жыл бұрын
Love how much higher quality the footage is on this vid
@SurvivorMetalMan
@SurvivorMetalMan 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t beat the ACSS Reticle, and the PA optics are tank tough.
@SlimeSquare
@SlimeSquare 2 жыл бұрын
Very capable optics for size, weight, and most importantly - price. Coming from Trijicon, I was surprised to see how clear the glass was and how bright the reticle gets. The mount left a little to be desired so I upgraded to ADM ACOG mini mounts, which are around $70. I'd be very interested to see what PA can do with a 5x microprism.
@jackmemphis777
@jackmemphis777 Жыл бұрын
I have the regular size PA 3x prism on my 300blk AR. Ive been wanting a new scope on my 5.56 so I just got this PA 3x microprism, since they do not have a 5x mircoprism yet. I know they have the 5x prism, but Ive really been wanting to try a microprism.
@romeosgenericchannel3971
@romeosgenericchannel3971 2 жыл бұрын
Have one on my SA M-5 (556 AK) before shooting the first time I was concerned about cqb , but my fears were quickly put to rest this optic is amazing for close-medium range engagements and is a blast to shoot! the shake awake feature , the etched acss raptor reticle, man , This has quickly become my favorite optic , and yeah I like it more then ACOG! Is damn sure alot cheaper too lol
@TomM855
@TomM855 2 жыл бұрын
Drone captured shooting montage, glitch effect transitions, synth wave soundtrack 🤌🏻 badass
@Ivan-vn1pd
@Ivan-vn1pd 2 жыл бұрын
seems like this is a match made in heaven for my BCM mid length lightweight barrel 16” upper that i keep around as a “backup” rifle
@kaz6916
@kaz6916 2 жыл бұрын
For a week or so now I’ve had one on a 20” A4 style gun that previously had a ACOG TA-110 on it. I won’t claim the PA is “better” than an ACOG but that A4 was a real pig to lug around with the TA-110. It’s a much more nimble gun now, which I appreciate as someone who is pretty enthusiastic about the shooting characteristics and ballistic advantages of full length 20” rifles. I think the weight of the PA 3x and mount, and a set of MBUS PRO rear sights is not too much heavier than a detachable carry handle
@lordhellfire153
@lordhellfire153 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, an 18 or 20" setup with this sounds like the perfect setup.
@vicnighthorse
@vicnighthorse 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed and was edified by this review even though I chose another PA prism (GLx 2x) for the same role. Thanks again for the good vibes:-)
@cannabiskiisdead5360
@cannabiskiisdead5360 2 жыл бұрын
just asked him about it lol how do ya like it?
@vicnighthorse
@vicnighthorse 2 жыл бұрын
@@cannabiskiisdead5360 First I'd have to disclose that I am an old guy that shot for 30 years with out any optics and only embraced even red dots on fighting weapons in 2016. I am a prepper and tinkerer much more than a shooter. This is also my first magnified optic on a fighting gun. It is on an 11.5" AR cheek pistol. I consider it a 150 yard gun that I sometimes stretch to 200 yards. Finally, I am left eye dominant, right handed, and shoot 'long' guns left handed. That said, to my eye, it has a clear and sharp image to the edges, it has a very forgiving eye box, and it only takes a few hours to get the hang of using such an odd magnification. Since it is a cheek pistol, I allow it to recoil straight back from the front contact point of my cheek being about 1" back on the buffer tube to almost where the left side protruding only charging handle is. I consider all of that 3" or so of travel inside the eye box. The reticle stays on the target as shooing this way even with the heavy (165 & 300gr) bullets I use causes very little muzzle rise. Oh, and jeez I forgot to say the the chevron is tiny and my old eyes can only resolve it clearly about 50% of the time depending on when I take my meds. I really just wanted a no astigmatism problem slightly magnified red dot and this is one. Sorry if this is too much non-optic related info.
@gj6291
@gj6291 8 ай бұрын
The Rimworld music was such a good choice for this. Perfect mood.
@TaterGrabbinBass
@TaterGrabbinBass 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually been looking at this prism pretty hard lately. Great content, love your videos man, you’ve been doing more videos and getting better and better. Keep up the great work! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
@romeosgenericchannel3971
@romeosgenericchannel3971 2 жыл бұрын
You won't regret picking it up, this has quickly become my favorite optic , I even like it more then ACOG!
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 2 жыл бұрын
Your button up in the beginning actually blends in with that rocky surrounding really well.
@HomesteadReliance
@HomesteadReliance 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff again. I got the vortex micro prism when it first came out and you are correct that it needs a different mount. If I have BUIS attached I can't get it far enough back. It just comes with low and high. a rearward sweep is needed like you said. That and push button vs rotary knobs is another negative against it.
@dilldowschwagginz2674
@dilldowschwagginz2674 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 3.5x compact prism and it's excellent. So yeah, I'm a fan of the small low power prism scopes
@innercityprepper
@innercityprepper 2 жыл бұрын
The not-pointing-a-gun-out-the-window scope mounting kit - chef's kiss.
@MerchGrows
@MerchGrows 10 ай бұрын
Dude I thought that’s what he was doing 😂
@milmech4376
@milmech4376 Жыл бұрын
that round just chilling on his back 2:03
@jackjmaheriii
@jackjmaheriii 2 жыл бұрын
With an FoV of 24’ @ 100m, a 2.7” eye relief and a 10oz weight, the Vortex 5x is a real gem because you get a lot more magnification with no down sides. Hop wasn’t a fan but I think it hits a lot of sweet spots with a with a piggyback back 509t.
@Pishadoo42
@Pishadoo42 2 жыл бұрын
How did you piggyback a 509t? It’s cut for venom/viper
@jackjmaheriii
@jackjmaheriii 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an adapter and it was expensive(ish). $60 I think. And it the screws they sent didn’t fit, but I had extras from an RMR, and that worked.
@Ovokor
@Ovokor 2 жыл бұрын
New Sub here, I just picked up this optic but for the 7.62x39/300 blackout. I love the horse shoe for close in for me that is immediately the "dot". The optic does not require batteries so unlike a red dot if your battery dies this does not matter. I am very impressed with this optic because 3x is a bit much in houses but I think does well in the 25 yard to 300 yard range. For my environment and my situation this does very well for what I need.
@user936
@user936 2 жыл бұрын
The British SUSAT was pretty agricultural in design but had *very* forgiving eye relief. They eye box on the Eclans we now use us laughably small - but the glass is incrediblely clear when teeing up targets. That and no range adjustment knob really takes it to another world. A world of eye-to-glass if you want to see owt 😁
@sharkawave1
@sharkawave1 2 жыл бұрын
Great review and great rimworld music
@9unslin9er
@9unslin9er Жыл бұрын
I'm mounting this on an AR-10 with an offset Mini Relex. The weight savings was a huge determining factor versus a LVPO.
@seangagliardo4318
@seangagliardo4318 2 жыл бұрын
Primary Arms has come out with absolutely best value optics!
@atbpsycold5380
@atbpsycold5380 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the review and it's depth and honesty.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
thanks man! I try.
@atbpsycold5380
@atbpsycold5380 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrassFacts This video got me to thinking that putting this optic on a brush gun, like my Ruger American Ranch chambered in 350Legend, might have a lot of utility. Small form factor, light weight, and that big horseshoe pops your eyes right to the target and in a brush gun application, that is 100% what I want. The round's limitation in range (200 yards or less)make 3x just about perfect. Does the eye relief lend itself well to a traditional rifle vs the AR platform with collapsable stock?
@THPOOKY
@THPOOKY 2 жыл бұрын
Came for the always excellent review, stayed for the doggo.
@KirkFickert
@KirkFickert 2 жыл бұрын
I went with the Burris RT-3 on my WWSDish rifle, because of lack of availability of the PA option, and ended up at 6lbs even with optic and that’s with an aluminum 15” handguard and gunner profile barrel. It really makes a difference on a lightweight build. I’ll probably replace the Burris with the PA if I can find the PA in stock because I like the ACSS chevron over the horseshoe dot of the RT-3.
@joshb5719
@joshb5719 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best reviews so far in my opinion
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
thanks! If you don't mind me asking. What about made this on standout?
@wifibum3904
@wifibum3904 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrassFacts that mustache
@mmpatriot2170
@mmpatriot2170 21 күн бұрын
I have the 1X version on a 9mm PCC. For the ranges the 9mm is effective at, I’m very satisfied with it. I could see putting the 5X version on my better, longer range 5.56 AR. Prolly add a 1x micro red dot to that set up.
@jmmartin7766
@jmmartin7766 11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure this was the set up I was going for when I installed my red dot and 3x magnifier. Live and learn
@tmacU7Bu
@tmacU7Bu 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this channel! Great video & insights. Thank you for your expertise
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment!
@SecondClassCitizen
@SecondClassCitizen 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 1x and just using it as a reddot for the Scorpion Micro. This has some of the clearest glass I have ever seen. Regular red dots bloom really bad for me, this was crisp and clean as good be.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
yeah sounds like you have pretty bad astigmatism
@anthonydukeiii6799
@anthonydukeiii6799 2 жыл бұрын
Bad ass intro scene with the drone footage!
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 2 жыл бұрын
Mmm crispy visuals. You must have had a great camera person other than your usual camera person (who is terrible).
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
cameraman 32, what a guy. To bad he got eaten by a mountain lion
@tommyguns4018
@tommyguns4018 2 жыл бұрын
good review. honest real world. other real world is i have had 2 versions on pre/back order since beginning of February from P/A. crazy
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
oof
@robyusmc
@robyusmc Жыл бұрын
Bro this was a fantastic video!
@chadwik4000
@chadwik4000 Жыл бұрын
"Heeeeey there, Noooooova dog Flyin' through the sky so fancy freeeeee"
@AJLowrie
@AJLowrie 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Informative and thorough Subscribed 👍
@J.Young808
@J.Young808 Жыл бұрын
0:34 damn that’s some muzzle blast making the tree dance.
@deplorabledave1048
@deplorabledave1048 2 жыл бұрын
I have astigmatism even with glasses, my red dots are starred. I like the idea of PA's micro prism 1X.
@mattwernecke2342
@mattwernecke2342 3 ай бұрын
This was a great review! Not many like this! Thanks!
@IHavAnAkimbonr
@IHavAnAkimbonr 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit dude, up to 20k already? Thats awesome, congrats.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
yeah growing quite a bit.
@kabloosh699
@kabloosh699 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy. That piece of brass landing on your back at 2:04 must have been uncomfortable. I remember having one land inside my collar in training once. It was like 5 degrees out and this thing warmed me up fast. Also gave me a 1st degree burn.
@DoaneTactical
@DoaneTactical 2 жыл бұрын
I am an ACOG fanboi but I believe these 3x prism optics have their place. I have a SIG MCX Rattler that I use a Vortex 3x prism on. I wanted the Primary Arms one but it wasn't in stock. Might make the switch once I build a 10.5 AR.
@Kop_in_the_Sky
@Kop_in_the_Sky Жыл бұрын
I've been debating with myself to get the 1x or 3x PA prism for my rattler. Isn't 3x a bit much for cqb?
@DoaneTactical
@DoaneTactical Жыл бұрын
@@Kop_in_the_Sky 3x is perfect.
@J.Young808
@J.Young808 Жыл бұрын
2:04 good thing Hop was wearing a collared shirt as that shell ricocheted off the rock and rested on his neck.
@Buck762
@Buck762 Жыл бұрын
Really want to pickup one of these as I love the form factor, just wish they came with a few different reticle options like trijicon
@Danyaveltan
@Danyaveltan 2 жыл бұрын
Im surprised how well that flannel blends with the rocks ngl
@aaa3d473
@aaa3d473 2 жыл бұрын
Wish they’d do a 5 with a spot to mount an rmr on top
@gerhardtcustomknives
@gerhardtcustomknives 2 жыл бұрын
I think they do, it is a brick tho
@AG-id8dl
@AG-id8dl 2 жыл бұрын
Vortex 5x is that way, but it takes Docter footprint dots.
@Badger.07
@Badger.07 2 жыл бұрын
I have the big 3x one it has a spot for one
@aaa3d473
@aaa3d473 2 жыл бұрын
@@Badger.07 right. But I’d like a mini 5x with the rail
@xavierh.5102
@xavierh.5102 2 жыл бұрын
that'd be perfect.
@KenoNoir
@KenoNoir 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your quality and vid setup
@davebona9592
@davebona9592 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks.
@Tcgunner
@Tcgunner 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know why I’m barley seeing your page? Great content
@jimhovater8755
@jimhovater8755 Жыл бұрын
I've got this sight with a green reticle in my future. BTW, your rifle is set up great, especially with the Magpul Fixed Carbine Stock. That is THE only carbine stock I use, now.
@dangerdoberman
@dangerdoberman 11 ай бұрын
I just picked one of these up and it's way better than an ACOG. Price aside, it's better in every way in my opinion. I LIKE!
@oxencott3n175
@oxencott3n175 2 жыл бұрын
MI combat rail with a front sight gas block....nice
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
it's a looker
@lithium1770
@lithium1770 2 жыл бұрын
I love how small it is.
@willheines4
@willheines4 2 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 2 жыл бұрын
The price is great. My 3x magnifier was $300, for context. However, I'm not a big fan of these types of sights for myself, so I wont be buying one.
@Specter2197
@Specter2197 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help but wonder what his take would be on the full size SLx 3x prism would be. It is a larger, heavier optic obviously, but I'd think it would have a better apparent/perceived FoV for scanning like he mentions. Plus, the reticle doesn't seem as potentially crowded as the micro prism, while still having an eye-drawing horseshoe/ring. Not sure about brightness or glass quality though, and I don't think it's got the shake-awake either...
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't mind them when I used them But im of the mind of: at that point get a ACOG. Now they are pricy, but acogs hold their value well especially if you buy used. The upside of this thing is the weight and size. And that's a pretty nice combo for certain rifles.
@bryanduchane2371
@bryanduchane2371 2 жыл бұрын
The new prisms PA is making are freaking awesome. I wouldn't own anything else regardless of price! I really like the 1x on a shorty DD 556.
@christopher2215
@christopher2215 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome camera work
@stevenkennedy4130
@stevenkennedy4130 2 жыл бұрын
Been thinkin' bout picking one of these up.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the thick horseshoe, it might be better to have two horizontal stadia pointing inwards towards the center point of the chevron. i would want something like that pulling my eye to the center, but the thick horesshoe does kinda interfere with the target view. but its also useful for cqb soo..
@GrantsDad
@GrantsDad 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like an overall good choice for what I’m buying it for kinda putting together a “truck gun” not something I’d actually just leave in a vehicle like some people but something I’ll take with me on long trips
@morganpope9594
@morganpope9594 2 жыл бұрын
Love that, almost Airwolf music. 👍🏻
@txflip29
@txflip29 2 жыл бұрын
I have the last gen 3x PA on my rig. Thinking about getting this to replace it just to save weight.
@jamesR1990
@jamesR1990 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if you've had any experience with it but I'm a fan of Swampfox Optics' Prism scopes. Run one on my CQC .300 build
@johnlatzke3631
@johnlatzke3631 2 жыл бұрын
I actually got to the point that I actually kinda prefer the close eye relief. Also, you can get 3 inches of eye relief with the acog and be fine despite what it says on paper
@awsomedude9111
@awsomedude9111 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of your videos are kinda long and drawn out, not sure if I should be more patient but kinda want a quick review at the beginning or end. Also really would like to know exactly what ear protection your using, if you can still buy it, and if your thoughts?
@RomanicusSparticus
@RomanicusSparticus 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the logo finally shows the truth about the channel: it’s about the pupper doggo. 😂 Keep up the good work! Enjoy the vids!
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
I realize people are here for the dog, and the gun stuff is just the appetizer
@jacksona4919
@jacksona4919 2 жыл бұрын
I would kill for a 5x with provision for rmr mounting
@dickbroomactual2203
@dickbroomactual2203 2 жыл бұрын
They’ve made one for 10 years dude…
@aaa3d473
@aaa3d473 2 жыл бұрын
@@dickbroomactual2203 a micro one is what he means
@Eternal_Wrath
@Eternal_Wrath 2 жыл бұрын
they make a offset mount that attaches to the same mount as the optic
@dickbroomactual2203
@dickbroomactual2203 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaa3d473 you don’t need a 5x micro prism. Eyebox is going to be terrible. Vortex is a good case in point.
@wagnerboop8684
@wagnerboop8684 2 жыл бұрын
I have a spare mini acog mount laying around… I just might pick one of these up.
@jeremiahjohnson3018
@jeremiahjohnson3018 2 жыл бұрын
Br ass Facts at it again. Good review, and I really do like my TA31F. Does PA make one the can still utilize the iron sights if mounted on a carry handle?
@ioanndubovoy5055
@ioanndubovoy5055 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the information amazing video
@tysonbingham3215
@tysonbingham3215 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and love seeing so many great KZbin creators based out of Utah. Any recommendations on good areas open to the public to shoot? Think I'll have to get this prism sight for my new Aero Precision build or Daniel Defense, thanks.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
just look up BLM land. It's basically all good to go unless otherwise stated.
@son_of_guns
@son_of_guns 2 жыл бұрын
Off topic but I appreciate the terrain and moving instead of the classic flat range, even though that has its place, I prefer the more realistic environments conditions
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 2 жыл бұрын
it's a whole other type of shooting. A lot of trends, and gear choices in my opinion are predicated around flat range style shooting. So it's good to get out here and see how things do
@AnthonyD1986
@AnthonyD1986 Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this or a red dot for a beginner who will mostly just be shooting at the range with about 50 yards. Occasional outdoor shooting.
@elendal
@elendal Жыл бұрын
At 50 you should consider irons. Ask someone at the range to try a red dot, they are slightly cheaper and they are good and you can always add a 3x magnifier. If you have astigmatism or like the idea of battery free operation this is a good option. There is no right answer. Training is more important. On my Tavor I have a red dot with mag plus I can still use irons, on my type 81 I've put a prism.
@social3ngin33rin
@social3ngin33rin 2 жыл бұрын
omfg i love the retro intro music!!!!!!!!
@garypease7414
@garypease7414 2 жыл бұрын
Which canyon is that? It looks like west of the lake, but I thought I'd been in all of them out there. Just wondering.
@VincDuran
@VincDuran 2 жыл бұрын
I have an older, larger, 3x PA prism I like. It does seem a little heavy and the light doesn't turn on and off automatically...
@clydemarshall8095
@clydemarshall8095 11 ай бұрын
What handguard is on the rifle in the intro?
@don8659
@don8659 3 ай бұрын
I know this is an old video but would you consider a comparison to this one and the full size slx 3x optic they also have?
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