Pac-12 conference near collapse after 8 schools leave

[@sirsoos3546]

"Did we ask any of them?" resonated throughout my soul

[@mattherbert6781]

but $50 million a year is $50 million a year

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

From a man that school is one of the schools that started the problem.

[@mrcarterfx885]

Exactly outside of basketball and football. These kids aren’t gonna be multi million dollar professional athletes

[@jakkeni7212]

sadly its never about sports, its always about money.

[@vinyllpreviews9462]

How do you expect to pay for all these non revenue sports?

[@danieldepaolo3012]

When it stops being about people, then our culture has died.

[@brianoneil6920]

Money is always a factor. Remember the football money that's brought in helps for the other sports. With no contract at the pac-12 cannot get those funds would dwindle and would have to eliminate those programs it's a double-edged sword.

[@PDXDrumr]

Yep, better money elsewhere.

[@schao7555]

Everything is always about Money no matter if its sports or not sports.

[@josephlo9579]

No offense to the girl running track. But your universities doesn’t care about your sport they make most and all of their money from football…they would cut the track program in a heartbeat if it wasn’t for the simple fact they needed to be in compliance with Title IX.

[@JuliePR04]

They would literally never cut track and field, this girl has a chance at international success. Football players are just domestically successful athletes

[@soonerdave01]

@@JuliePR04 All college sports programs outside of football (in some cases basketball) are net revenue losers, i.e. they cost more to operate than they bring in.

[@tombrayton4412]

Its so sad to see schools prioritizing money over education. Sports are big part of the experience of collage, sports is also a vehicle to teach valuable life lessons to the athletes. Now the lesson is only the worship of money.

[@The2ndFirst]

All those scholorships that they give to non revenue generating sports like every single one of them besides men's football and basketball? You know..Scholorships for education? They are paid for by money.

[@topgrain]

Nearly every institution has money at the top of the hierarchy. How can schools be expected to be any different.

[@thedownwardmachine]

Maybe Cal will finally win the Pac 4

[@mikemcd]

Cal has 5 football national championships btw

[@thedownwardmachine]

None in living memory, unless you remember the Great Depression

[@yvettejirsaraie5185]

Stop allowing corporations from manipulating our players.

[@yallhellamessy9291]

Why not, big money compromises everything else

[@Agent-lr4ez]

It’s not corporations it’s the fact that they need a way to pay for other activities and schools taxes.

[@billyyank5807]

1:51 they are no longer student athletes, they are professionals, its been that way for a while. The ncaa just refuses to accept it and they don't care. Because money.

[@CB-ke7eq]

Basketball programs can compete in different conferences from the football program at the same school. So then why can't other sports, women's volleyball for instance?

[@duckhunt1902]

Basketball programs generate money and profit. Other sports programs are subsidized and need the football money to support the program.

[@The2ndFirst]

Because nobody cares about them. That's why title 9 exists. Those sports wouldn't exist otherwise.

[@RCmack]

Howard Cosell is turning over in his grave at what today's college sports are like.

[@Me97202]

I remember when colleges were all about the education. I guess I’m old school.

[@Agent-lr4ez]

It still is but colleges got pay bills and the only 2 sports that generate massive profits are basketball and football. The other sports and activities rely on the money from these 2 sports to operate.

[@The2ndFirst]

That's cute. You think being motivated by money is a new thing.

[@roachtoasties]

I'm looking forward to the Pac-1. If I was able to play for the Pac-1, we would have the conference championship in the bag every year! We're number 1! We're number 1!

[@mahadaalvi]

Pac-0.5 is when things are going to really get crazy.

[@paulraich5504]

Nice idea but NCAA rules say you need 6 teams to make a conference

[@nathanreiling6022]

@@mahadaalviwhat about pac -1

[@stumccannel9675]

Asking these young athletes of all kinds of sports, go to school and travel that far is BS

[@The2ndFirst]

The young athlete's aren't forced to do anything.

[@JAT-qr8eq]

It should just be Football only. Football is the biggest money maker. The other "Sports" should compete locally, regional and only the best teams or individual players should compete for the National Title trophy or game. But the best solution is a National playoff format. CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS VS CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS ENTRY ONLY.

[@kicapanmanis1060]

They can quit if they don't like it, it's a free country.

[@skatintod]

RIP PAC 12

[@DeAngeloStevens]

Blame Larry Scott

[@jamesharrison2374]

Guess that is why, in other countries school is school, and sports are done at the sports clubs. Could be why we rate very low on educational charts, and why Americans pay so much for school and college. We are paying for the team that is a money machine.

[@TheForgottenMan270]

Paid tuition isn't even close to being enough to pay for athletics. Football is the biggest money maker. And about half of the money gained in marketing from football goes to the other sports departments of both men and women. Most departments are a net negative, so increasing the flow of money will actually help build those departments even more. As long as the scheduling is done right less traveling will occur. And a means can be provided for these athletes to succeed in schooling.

[@Agent-lr4ez]

That also because other country don’t spend on military like USA.

[@kicapanmanis1060]

Up until secondary schools sure but America ranks well at the university levels. Plenty of schools don't have big programs like these big universities by the way, it's a very very small but loud minority. You're also not taking into account the money being generated by these sports for the big unis like the TV deals.

[@kicapanmanis1060]

@@Agent-lr4ez @@Agent-lr4ez As a percentage of GDP, US is only 14th highest military spender. High but hardly top spot.

[@tbolton6156]

I have no problem with this!

[@lastpme]

I don’t want to hear any coach from the SEC complaining about these financial decisions schools have to make…UM left the Big 12 to make more money. So that coach can keep quiet.

[@willbygosh4887]

And the now Pac 4 commissioner does nothing.

[@musicman76enator]

When the teams travel, flying back and forth between the West Coast and the Midwest for games will be excruciating. It makes no sense at all. When will the students have time to do their work? Of course the Conference officials dont care. It's all about the green at the end of the day. *sigh*

[@stphinkle]

I think that this design is a bad idea. I worry about the students and their projects. I think some of these conferences that require so much travel and so far is not only a risk to student health, it is a risk to climate change as well. In some ways, conferences that group athletes playing schools closer to them or via short-distance travel with maybe one or two national tournaments make sense. It seems like they could be traveling 4-6 hours on a plane every other weekend across the country. I think what would make more sense is conferences set up by regions of the country. For example: * Northeast: Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey * East Coast Central: Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, District of Columbia, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina * Southeast Gulf: South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee * Upper Midwest: Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri * Southwest: Kansas, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, California, Hawaii * Northwest: Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Nebraska, Alaska

[@rdramos13]

​@stphinkle You must be new to college sports. That regional thing you talk about, is how all the conferences started out in the first place. Hence the "new" conference realignments.

[@JAT-qr8eq]

It should just be Football only. Football is the biggest money maker. The other "Sports" should compete locally, regional and only the best teams or individual players should compete for the National Title trophy or game. But the best solution in CF is to have a real CFP format. CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS VS CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS ENTRY ONLY for the National Title Game. The football ranking is a joke. Be the Conference Champion and your in the playoffs.

[@2299amos]

Very very sad😢😢

[@andrewwong8932]

I can’t imagine anything less consequential to the life of an ordinary Americans than this “news”

[@randydaytona5615]

Why you here then?

[@andrewwong8932]

@@randydaytona5615 Because this popped up on the news channel I was looking for news but I found this instead

[@644blue]

It was the beginning of the end for college football when the Pac 8 expanded to the Pac 10.

[@Blissfulkitty-Seattle]

Let's stop pretending these are "collegiate" sports. These are professional for-profit sports to represent the brand of the university athletics departments. Either pay the athletes accordingly or make it a truly collegiate experience.

[@LoneWulff829]

And the answer is no, they didn't ask the kids how they felt about it, because money was all that mattered.

[@welcometomychannelswelcome7261]

Student athletics can study on the broad and have professors for student athletics . Lastly take classes online. This was always already done in college sport.

[@RappinRickJames]

So who’s getting fired for this one? Will there be a Rose Bowl anymore? Someone egregiously messed up…

[@thewolverine1913]

Only 2pac kept it real

[@liloreoinya]

That's horrible. I hated traveling in HS. Couldn't imagine what it's going to be like for those kids.

[@lilcourtny08]

They alerted travel, the Washington and Oregon schools had to travel to Arizona and Colorado

[@mattsykes6669]

And still no money for the actual student athletes

[@luke_cohen1]

That changes this year as athletes are now able to get access to agents and sponsorship deals since they’re now able to control their own likeness.

[@anitakristensen4679]

Don't they get scholarships

[@EricSaysQUACK]

uh... NIL passed years ago.

[@billyyank5807]

🤣🤣😭😭 these athletes make more in one football season than you see in 5 years lol.

[@mattsykes6669]

@@billyyank5807 yep my mistake I don't live in the US and didnt realise the law had changed in the last couple of years.

[@feelme5297]

Short term profit will lead to long term demise. PAC 10 and now pac 12 is a historic conference and the powerhouse of the west coast. It’s a blow to the whole of college sports and especially the west coast.

[@christopherbahena5955]

Will miss PAC - 12 football 🏈 as a California kid it’s such a disappointment.

[@notanindianscammer7594]

Im looking forward to playing for the pac "man"

[@bgregg55]

Money, money, money. I'm just sick the money men allowed this to happen. Already tossed all my Duck gear. College fb is dead to me.

[@drwisdom1]

It was a mistake to include numbers in college sports conferences names. The SEC doesn't have that problem.

[@Jab-Cajun91]

This is sad. College sports is dead.

[@drwisdom1]

We are now supposed to worry whether athletes fly commercial or private? Come on man!

[@mattsmith4589]

They should be changing other teams to keep up competition

[@drock9083]

For alot of the teams it's the only way they will ever have a chance to be considered for a national championship no matter what their record is.

[@theyhateme2601]

“Tradition” doesn’t keep the lights on

[@BlackBullRising]

From the UofO President to Coach Drinkwitz, all I hear is why these student athletes should be paid more.

[@sailexw6414]

College and Capitalism simply don't mix well..

[@celieboo]

On the bright side, at least they will rack up airline miles and hotel point!

[@fakereality96]

NBC is absolutely shocked that there's gambling in Rick's Cafe. 😱😱😱

[@billyyank5807]

1:22 exposure? How much more exposure does ucla,usc,oregon and Washington need? This dude is a joke.

[@garyl8356]

Well at least the players have a solid college education to fall back on.

[@terrie001]

Wait? So they leave because they are not aired with some media company and the deal ended??? Because they won’t be able to make millions of dollars? Lollll. It is sad how college sports is a money making machine for these colleges. It is an after school activity… not a tool for school to monitize funds. Lol. Oh dear. This country is falling apart.

[@Cobbliano]

I used to love college sports but GREED has ruined them for me. The portal is an abomination!

[@jbrudert]

Its stupid for the fans as well to travel far to see an away game. What about the band players, that sucks for them because they will have to take the bus.

[@dimwit818]

in the future it'll be called the Fox Big 10 conference with teams like the IBM Trojans and the Phillips 66 Cornhuskers.

[@agent1.618]

those west coast kids are in for a real "culture shock" - BIG10 football is a more physical game. interested to see how they adjust.

[@TheMastersaldivar]

This is outa of control. At this point...congress should get involved.

[@noxnc]

It’s almost like tying athletics to academics is a really stupid idea. 🤔

[@Yupyupyuppy]

I wish my school can join the Ivy League just to sound better for graduation.

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

Imagine if they would spend all that money on actually educating students rather than promoting meaningless competitions that enrich others and distract the public from grasping the principle that knowledge what Universities are for.

[@Gmac_Greg_M]

Well if they did that they wouldn’t of gotten the tv contract to begin with. Think of University sports and academics as two separate entities.

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

@@Gmac_Greg_M Why ? I am not aware of any other country that gives University places on the ability to get punched in the head and to kick a ball?

[@smallwang7]

Sports are essential to education.

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

@@smallwang7 Hitchens Razor

[@abkl1]

... so should we call it the Big-18 now?

[@aker9046]

It's not that I don't like Missouri's HC Eli Drinkwitz as a person, but he talks too much as a football coach. The press conference breakdown about gun crime in Florida earlier this year? Okay, it was odd, but acceptable. And now his latest concern is about other student athletes in other conferences? Seriously coach...don't try to act like the 2023 USWNT. Megan Rapinoe is a living train wreck if you continue to go down this road. So just focus on Mizzou football, please, coach.

[@gconway9025]

No one is going to care about West Coast team coming to the Midwest....big time snooze

[@davidnoooooooo]

SJSU FOOTBALL BABY

[@Loveladylove]

I wonder where those millions will go?

[@davidmcclure4298]

We could change our name to the 6 PAC and sell a lot more beer at the games.

[@goodcomments8479]

Still 5 or 6 home games, more $$$ to school & state. Similar to stars staying 1 season

[@troygaspard6732]

American football distroys collegiate sports.

[@justinwahip]

with the 50 million they make cant they just get a college jet?

[@luckytoastsebastian]

Whats a pac 4 anyway?

[@susie154]

Always about the money 😠

[@CosmicPen]

Just a lot of bribery

[@davemathews7890]

MONEY.

[@Skinnyd4]

Just goes to show - what football wants, football gets. Every other sport is - as the reporter said - collateral damage.

[@runits]

Will they pay their players?

[@JKuster87]

The Big 10 might over take the SEC for the power house conference, but no one is talking about the college playoff. What will the Rose Bowl be if not for Pac 12 vs Big 10 champion??? With both the Big 10 and Big 12 expanding the number of teams, will the Rose Bowl be the champion from the Big 10 and Big 12?

[@RedRaiderLobo20]

The CFP destroyed a lot of those traditional bowl matchups.

[@BlazeOfGlory742]

Big 10 will not match the SEC when it comes to football

[@DeepDishPizza]

Is all because of Apple. Apple was rumored to stream games on Apple TV+. So the Apple hating teams left.

[@billyyank5807]

1:17 its completely ruined Oregon football history. Good luck. Hope you gain new fans because the fans that stuck with ya through the worst times wont be there much longer. Keep it up ncaa. Circling the drain.

[@JumpJeho]

Really, really stupid to make these athletes have to travel so much now.

[@drwisdom1]

What is happening is the American system's tendency to consolidate into 2 or 3 competitors. GM/Ford/Chrysler, CBS/NBC/ABC, AT&T/Verizon/T-mobile, Democratic/Republican, Vail Corp/everybody else, ...

[@mikemcd]

GO CAL BEARS

[@chrisjames3087]

Lincoln Riley should have stayed at Oklahoma. However, the Sooners will eventually be better off without him.

[@jimgritty7064]

Hockey doing ok

[@KK_Denovo_]

NEAR collapse?

[@sirsoos3546]

I think conferences should be more geographic, but who cares?

[@hansel2001]

Smaller sports and women’s teams are complaining about the travel? Your programs lose money and are subsidized by only 2 programs: football and men’s basketball. Without football and men’s basketball, there is no squash and fencing and swimming. Don’t apply to Big 10 schools and if you are already at one of these bailing schools on athletic scholarship, just transfer. Boo boo. No one is crying for team bass fishing and water polo. Your own PAC-12 leadership couldn’t secure a TV deal. There’s Poker After Dark and logrolling on cable TV, and your leadership couldn’t secure a TV deal with USC football and UCLA basketball as your headliners. Boo boo. No one’s crying.

[@MrDredd1966]

Looks like minor sports athletes will be lost to those programs, or they will have to move to other universities just to continue to play those sport's!! And with the US having probably the highest obesity levels in the world, having kids dropping out of sport's programs is just going to make that problem worse!!

[@rdramos13]

They're not canceling sports programs, they'll just have different competition. Also, college sports isn't the catalyst, or foundation on what make people teter on obesity or not.

[@mattsmith4589]

Money Money Money

[@troykeeling4490]

I mentioned. Why hasnt any taxpayers funded stadium, ever made a return to the taxpayers. With the gambling, I think the taxpayers deserve reparations. Where has it all gone? We put in roads,sewage, water and give them money. Wheres the return?

[@jbats0428]

Go B1G!

[@milliebean6687]

It's all about $$$$

[@ThingsImStudying]

No time for drinking I guess

[@khawmtiti4460]

Greedy

[@paulmkz]

It's collapsed. It's over

[@I_Evo]

How about going to university primarily for an education, if you've got a sporting talent practise for and compete (yes even as a professional) in that in your spare time? That's how the rest of the world does it.

[@xxfexx3827]

1. You have no idea about the American university system. 2. These student athletes are on athletic scholarships. It’s the only way they would even be able to afford to attend these schools. 3. These universities are making millions off of the students athletes with television deals.

[@brandonortega1478]

The Big 12 easily solidified itself as the third best conference with the four teams they added.

[@ryanevans2655]

My high school played in a district where we had to make 3 different 4-hour roundtrips in every season, every sport. Lots of high school districts are even more spread out than that. Are 2-hr flights that big of a deal? Small school HS softball or soccer players can do it, but elite D1 athletes can’t? Same with small college athletics. Division 2’s Western Oregon plays in the “Lone Star Conference.” Division 3 has a conference that includes schools in Texas, Indiana, and Ohio. Guarantee none of those kids are flying charter, if they’re flying at all.

[@gizzinhereye]

Good! This is amazing

[@Gmac_Greg_M]

Bye bye PAC!! I won’t miss ya.

[@jonnie2bad]

wow who cares

[@richardnelson3227]

Congratulations oregon, you will never be recognized as really being a B1G member

[@Gmac_Greg_M]

Oregon’s future pay checks will say otherwise..

[@metrofilmer8894]

We don’t want this either. We would much rather stay in a strong and stable PAC12 than have to travel to Chicago every other week. There was no other option for us though thanks to the actions and greed of USC, UCLA and Larry Scott

[@useridcn]

What is that girls talking about? Traveling 6-8 hours is so normal for college sports. What kind of bubble does she live in? Also, the more schools you have in the conference, your coaches as actually have more options. They don't necessary have to pick a school 12+ hours away to compete. Baseball and softball players are overwhelmed only because they play SO MANY GAMES! If you are required to play 50+ games per season, you are not a "student" period. Unless your school is just far away from everyone else.

[@msmith4149]

She was referring to regular season conference games. A flight from LA to the Bay Area or Arizona is shorter than a flight from LA to Ohio. That’s a 1 hour flight compared to a 4 hours flight + travel time. That’s what this change will mean.

[@useridcn]

@@msmith4149 many sports don't play every school in the conference. Depending on what her sport is. Also, she is lucky enough to have flights to take. Many schools just bus their kids hours every week. She is living in a comfortable bubble. Traveling 4 hours (8 hr for round trip) per week for a game is like nothing for many student athletes in the country. Welcome to reality.

[@rdramos13]

​​@@useridcnThey might not play everyone in conference for football, but they do in other sports. Even if they don't, they still play a full schedule, with out of conference schools added in. Baseball, softball, basketball, volleyball, just to name a few, play multiple games a week. And no school is bussing there students for an 8hr drive, unless it's a one time tournament somewhere and can't charter a flight.

[@useridcn]

@@rdramos13 you are in a rich bubble, too. Many schools bus their players for more than 12 hours. Do some survey outside of your bubble. Not everyone can afford flights.

[@adamcompean9385]

$$$$ root of all evil money 💰!!!

[@tiffystrangebirdbrown6844]

Sports outfits with education side hustles, they should all be shut down in favor of real education, not CTE and $$$