PACIFIC 2019 Day 2 - Royal Australian Navy Programs

Day 2 video coverage at PACIFIC 2019, the international maritime exposition held in Sydney, Australia
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In this video we cover Royal Australian Navy programs:
0:42 - Hunter-class Frigate (SEA5000) with BAE Systems
3:11 - Safran Optronic masts for Attack-class submarine (SEA1000)
4:39 - Luerssen Arafura-class offshore patrol vessel (SEA1180)
6:02 - Saab UMS Skeldar V200 VTOL UAV (SEA129 Phase 5)
7:39 - Australian Naval Infrastructure / Osborne Naval Shipyard
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[@doctorbritain9632]

The Aussies are getting pretty serious about their Navy. Good for them.

[@nux0015]

We're ranked 26th in the world! We need to get more serious cause we are essentially an island and have got one of the weakest navy's! It's good to see new ships coming in though. Its just happening a bit slow.

[@salamandastron90]

China's knocking at the door, Aussies had to up their game.

[@mparistheo5700]

@Biliary Clinton since the kangaroos are very hostile these days and you need cutting edge warships

[@person6539]

you do realise even though they have a big destroyer with loads of radars, it's only as good as the FFG (x) . this ship carry's 32 vls and 8 anti ship missiles whereas the american frigate has 32 vls but 16 anti ship missile. By the way if you don't know types of ships, a frigate is meant to be smaller, not the other way round lol.

[@urmumisaho69]

Biliary Clinton AC-130s and A-10 would be no use to Australia. The F35 is more then capable of ground support role when combined with an attack helicopter (though we don’t have that many, we should get 48 or so F-16 multi roles to help carry the slack they’re cheap but effective 20mil compared to 170mil a unit). I’d recommend AH-1z viper in a ARH and AH role, they are designed marine proof so low maintenance cost when on LHD. replace the trash tigers. (My mate is a aerospace engineer who works on tigers and tells me they’re a white elephant). This is a much more cost effective initiative to supply CAS and will be effective enough for who we could possibly face alone and not part of an international task force. Then if we operated the medium lift UH-1 Venom on LHD to compliment the viper (share 85% common parts with AH-1Z viper) the logistic saving would be huge and when we did operate independently it would be cheaper and logistically easier. Now we would then really have a reason to fund an Expeditionary Marine Corps and get army off the sea. Just get army to give the old LAVs and a few bushmasters to the marines. (Still more then capable of handling threats in our littoral waters). Artillery and Anti Air battery and a battery with Surface launch Anti Ship Missles. More then enough to secure strategic sea lanes with naval support till the army can mobilise. I do agree we lack a longe rang strike aircraft craft though. It’s a massive capability shortfall. Along with our new frigates, there’s to many large vessels in our fleet. We need to shift to focus to including more Corvettes with an AA and AS focus. 2 x LHD, 3 x AWD, 9 x HCF, 8 x ASub, 14 x OPV. That’s a lot of crew members for a small fleet. We should reduce the 9 HCF to 7 and save (2 billion per ship) and use that money to raise the marine force capability and spend $1billion on 10 x 75m corevttes (200 million each) have Austal manufacture them locally. Pretty much a lot more bang for your buck approach that would actually be sustainable in a real world scenario. If something did happen we would only have what we have now and need to produce more. I’d rather we can punch out heavily armed corvettes then a frigate. The cost and time to build would be our only hope.

[@hgf334]

Australia desperately needs to have a large and capable military base developed on Cocos Island in Australia's north. This would extend the range of any land based long range missiles. Australia cannot ignore the strategic significance that is needed here.

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

I agree. Although I think Australia should build a mach larger navy fleet rather than just replacing old for new. A actual aircraft jump jet carrier would be good too. Including long range bombers. Either manned or unmanned, whatever can work best. Including a actual air superiority fighter jet. I don't believe the F35A can cut it. The air force should give the F35A to the army. And go for a new 6th generation Tempest fighter from the UK or a American new FX 6th generation air superiority fighter when they go into production. If Australia building 30 off the new OPV Then why don't move the 57mm gun forward on the lower front deck. Put a 21 cell sea ram missiles system on it where the main gun is now. Put 4 anti ship missiles in the middle of the ship. Put 2x2 torpedoe tube launcher on the sides off the back lower deck. Raise the middle off the helicopter hanger and put a 8 cell VLS for quad packed ESSM evolved sea sparrow missiles in the middle off the helicopter hanger and put a 2x 20mm guns on each side off that. And put a CIWS close in weapon system on the back.. have 20 off the OPV configured out like this for heavily armed attack class OPV, And have another 10 with the normal hanger for helicopter. Have them patrol in 3 units. 2x heavily armed attack class, and 1 with a helicopter. That would bring 10 patrol units x3 OPV. 20 attacks class and 10 with helicopter hanger. total off 30 OPV. Not all these OPV need a to have a helicopter hanger. And most can fill a role as a heavily armed attack class OPV. This would give coverage around our geographical area too. And coverage off that island you mentioned

[@richardpoblador9177]

God bless Royal Australian Navy 😘😘.

[@person6539]

you do realise even though they have a big destroyer with loads of radars, it's only as good as the FFG (x) . this ship carry's 32 vls and 8 anti ship missiles whereas the american frigate has 32 vls but 16 anti ship missile. By the way if you don't know types of ships, a frigate is meant to be smaller, not the other way round lol.

[@wattlebough]

Donald the Trump Don’t worry matey, we just bought 200 AGM-158C LRASMs. Only the US and Japan operate them, and now Australia as well.

[@capitainemathieu7966]

But not Royal Canadian Navy

[@jnpowell9077]

Very interesting times ahead for the Royal Australian Navy.

[@joel_ph]

ian miller what

[@wattlebough]

@ian miller Who's going to be the slaughterman?

[@dannygayler90]

Truly exiting , I love Our Country and it is worth defending !

[@paulbaker9277]

@ian miller your lack of faith is disturbing, come on , you only have to look at what we have done in the past when we had to make a stand , and I am not resting on laurels for that reason . Australia's ADF is probably more involved than they are letting on with projects or maybe I should say the government, regardless of local political issues with both parties. Where not part of the five eyes for no reason and we are now moving into hyper sonic weapons development and even though it had been done on a shoe string budget, it certainly caught the collective eye's of the USA to claim it as their own. Australia has been quietly developing military programmes since after ww2,they are no new comer in missile technology radar and the list goes on , we just don't boast . And I might add the new millennials, all they want is their comfort gadgets and play games and PC politics, nice distraction for the nation.

[@wattlebough]

@ian miller From who? There's about three countries in the world that could attack Tasmania.

[@wattlebough]

@ian miller Defend from who, Ian? The People's Republic of China? Russia?

[@DeepseaSteve]

Defended the country for 18 years and we aren’t much more than a quarry and farm for foreign interests. Our government is too busy keeping overseas interests happy to spend and plan for future defence rather than what we normally do I.e buy platforms to fight the last war not the next and make sure it’s fitted for but not with the systems that it requires to function fully. As for being worth defending wish I could agree

[@mig21L]

Now that Chile bought the frigates from Australia and the plan of the Chilean navy is to build its own frigates from now on, it would be spectacular if Australia cooperated with Chile for the construction of its own ships and that Chile could count on 2030 with its own Hunter Class ... greetings

[@bigmanluigi8110]

U guys have supported throughout time to the uk will be more than happy to create along side your own variant of the type 26(uk variant called city class, aus is hunter,can is not specified, )

[@cadengrace5466]

The RAN got the best version of Type-26 - by far!

[@tesstickle7267]

I don't think Australia has the one with tomahawks ,only the UK does. Depends what you are doing and needing I guess ;)

[@cadengrace5466]

@@tesstickle7267 You may be right but I would also assume it is a possible inclusion in future refits or it should be. Tomahawk is not cheap but it isn't expensive either. You only need a few to turn any warship into a credible threat.

[@Jayteeef]

I believe the Canadian variant will be equiped with Tomahawks

[@k2apache60]

This Australian vesrion of the type 26 frigate is my fave, I love the mast and it's various sensors, and by all accounts it's truly World class too. A really impressive ship.

[@eurosensazion]

Nice Australian Navy seems like it will be top class and powerful. Canada is pursuing a similar program with same Frigates built in Canada but nothing for subs.

[@mrDredd1966]

Yes 2 Canberra class helicopter assault carriers, 3 Hobart class air warfare destroyers and now 6 possibly 8 new hunter class frigates, and plans for 12 new French designed Australian built barracuda class submarines..

[@emsh.725]

Australia and Canada should join their new Sub programs. Get the Astute design. Build them in Australia. Make financial sense of this very expensive program..

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

@@mrDredd1966 Australia building 9 new hunter class. Not 8. And they building 30 off the Arafura-class that they thinking off arming half off them more heavily.

[@exposingthedarknesswiththe9190]

*A VERY IMPRESSIVE NAVY FACILITY FOR SHIPS & SUBS FOR BOTH AUSTRALIA AND GREAT BRITTAN!!*

[@dan7564]

I MIGHT BE WRONG BUT I DON"T THINK THIS AUSTRALIAN SHIPYARD IS BUILDING ANY SHIPS FOR GB

[@jamieshields9521]

Great vid n coverage of RAN future defence projects👍

[@harrysmith1700]

7:08 "...they are blind after that due to the curvature of the Earth". Don't tell the flat earthers!

[@romell06]

Flat earthers will invent a bullshit explaination about how radars work. LoL

[@djgreeny1]

Hahahahaha

[@israelmoreno3620]

Alexandra Ocrazy Cortez has nice legs and like she’ll save the world in like twelve years and like the earth 🌍 is flat 🤥 🌮

[@harrysmith1700]

@Brett Mitchell Can't tell if that is sarcasm or not.

[@clangerbasher]

Some flat earthers don't think Australia exists so it won't be a problem. :)

[@daleeasternbrat816]

God Bless all of Her Magesty's Navies ! Best wishes from the Sunshine State!

[@johngodden4363]

We had originally planned on purchasing 20 OPVs to replace the Armidale Class patrol boats ( 14 ) which had been overworked. 12 OPVs will very likely prove to be not enough

[@cpgvonc7568]

You can do as the UK, and add some type 31 frigates to the mix. I think that's a clever and cost effective way of increasing the naval presence.

[@garrycoleman8537]

@@soulsphere9242 You could always contract it out to China to build!! they would have them all pumped out in 1 year!!!! ohhoh they may be enemy since Aussies are with the United Snakes and it hegemonic values and killing and taking over sovereign countries!

[@edwardanderson4678]

@@garrycoleman8537 Sir, I strongly recommend that you should properly study the history of the country's that you talk about. In WWII when my father and the other POW'S were liberated they picked out the German Soldiers who had tried to give the POW'S aid and risking death in doing so, from the typical NAZI Camp Soldier's who were normally tried, convicted and executed on the spot. The Red Army typically shot any Germans they could. Also, the Red Army was severely underpaid, but they were encouraged to subsidize their pay with looting and raping any Axis towns and women they captured.. Many of my friends were WWII Veterans who fought the Axis in nearly all theatre's of the war and due to my unusual circumstances, they were very open about their experiences.

[@wattlebough]

The Arafura OPV really should be stretched another twenty meters to add a hangar to the flight deck, and armed more like the Royal Brunei Navy variant. Mk110 57mm gun, Mk46 30mm auto cannon port/ starboard, Mk15-1B Phalanx CIWS, RIM116-B2 Mk114 GML, plus Harpoon and MU90 or Mk54 torpedo capable. They need to be compact frigates. Better to have too much than not enough gear on board when SHTF and they’re staring down PLA-N warships, submarines and helicopters in the Indian Ocean.

[@MisteriosGloriosos922]

Thanks for sharing the video, it's interesting!!

[@paultanton4307]

The Hunter Class model looks very impressive.

[@Wolfe351]

a mate of mine built that model.....

[@PatrickSavalle]

The Hunter class ship looks very inspired by the Russian Admiral Gorshkov class, probably slightly superior radar but greatly inferior weapon systems. The Gorshkov class is currently the most advanced frigate in service anywhere.

[@TyphoonVstrom]

@@PatrickSavalle "Slightly superior radar"? LOLOLOL. As for weapons systems, if you can't detect it, you can't kill it....

[@PatrickSavalle]

@@TyphoonVstrom if you can't kill it, why even detect it? ;)

[@PatrickSavalle]

@@John-te4ej And if the Red Army hadn't defeated the Nazis and liberated Europe, I'd be speaking German ;)

[@YaMomsOyster]

It does need to be continuous work , in shipbuilding . Fantastic for the ADF, and a commitment to the workers.

[@dalereed3950]

I have been wondering why the USN cruisers and frigates look as sexy as a Walmart store despite the technology where as ships built by the Commonwealth navies are in a totally different class. Beautiful, multipurpose and innovative technology with a wide variety of missions.

[@rodneymiddleton1044]

This is all very exciting news for our Navy and our ship building industry. I however think our Government needs to open up some more or reopen up in Newcastle plus Whyalla and W.A & Tas . Darwin could benefit as well. Our defence industry really needs a major push and speed is of the essence in getting things going. Hire more workers and train more to achieve faster results.

[@aussiemilitant4486]

Better to keep the Shipbuilding industries in the South far out of range of any perceived future enemy.

[@aussiemilitant4486]

@Wayne Haile I dont understand the people that keep harping on about more submarines, than the 12 ordered. There was a time when we couldnt even crew all the Collin's class subs, and theres half as many that the proposed future subs. If you cant crew them, then whats the point of having more, there is obviously not enough incentive to become a submariner.

[@wattlebough]

@@aussiemilitant4486 The DoD needs to create those incentives. Giver a base pay for a submariner Able Seaman at >75K p/a and give them 4 months of paid annual leave and the recruits will be lining up.

[@Evil.Totoro]

Just wondering for anyone in the know. Did austrailia have the names of the first 3 ships already chosen before the Type 26 was chosen? It was super quick, mean while in Canada we still call it the CSC... they better be taking their time to choose some cool names.

[@robertquinawayan9925]

wowww.great

[@antonioneiro4948]

Aqui se ve la tecnologia de Navantia y Australia!!🇪🇸🇪🇸

[@springer3783]

It’s a British designed and engineered ship built in Australia

[@antonioneiro4948]

@@springer3783 tu tipe 26 un auténtico fracaso proyecto metido en un cajón hasta el 2030 fracaso total Navantia 100% de efectividad incomparables y y cuando entreguen las f-110 no habrá ninguna fragata en el mundo que la supere ninguna

[@springer3783]

@@antonioneiro4948 Sorry can’t read What I think is spanish

[@liampadrutt4368]

Bae systems with au systems yea!? Quiberon class ready?

[@anthonywarwick6090]

These frigates will be brilliant ships.. likely the best frigates with the changes.

[@donquattrocchi9472]

Japan is the quickest to supply ship at a high standard. I don't think Australian defense force can see that. I do not know if Australia has the technology to build a modern Navy ship or submarine.

[@DeepseaSteve]

Don Quattrocchi and never will if we continue to dumb down the population and de-skill

[@Warhorse469]

@@donquattrocchi9472 They built all 3 of the new destroyers in Australia and the 12 Submarines are being built here in Australia plus 9 of these Frigates showing in the video.

[@Sacrafago90]

The best frigate in world is Admiral Gorskov Class. Place 4×8 cell for Anti Air Defense 2×8/3×8 for Anti-Ship/Long Range Ground Attack Supersonic Missiles 2 CIWS systems 4 cell Torpedo Launchers 2 ASW Rocket Launchers MK 45 gun system 1 ASW helicopter along with good radar,detection systems & other equipments. You are good to go with your frigate.

[@donquattrocchi9472]

@@Sacrafago90 .. But no anti-submarine which is needed

[@Evil.Totoro]

Great job Australia, you guus are going to have a great new navy. Also love seeing anything about the type 26 frigate. Hope to see this stuff when Canada swings into gear with their builds.

[@noelquinones58]

Australia always had a great Navy, but they can do with some more amphibious assault ships and more submarines.

From what I hear Canada has dropped the ball in recent times on their defence modernisation. I hope you guys can sort it out cause we need our Canada brothers strong.

[@Evil.Totoro]

Arc Light Not recently... always. So it came as a shock when they went ahead and selected the most expensive option in the type 26. The recent push to have our gdp spending on Defense jumping to 1.3% and maybe beyond is also a sign of hope. Now if America would stop blocking our desire for nuclear powered subs, we could really get things going. Would be amazing for Canada to operate a dozen or more Astutes, or Virginias parting our arctic waters. They would be much more effect then the frigates.

@@Evil.Totoro Sounds promising, I am surprised that the US are reluctant to approve acquisition of nuke boats for Canada though what with your close cooperation with them. From what I understand, we would have no problems discussing the possibility of acquiring nuke attack boats with them, it is only our internal politics preventing us from looking at it seriously.

[@Evil.Totoro]

Arc Light yes it’s strange, but the US has taken it upon themselves to police the Arctic shelf, probably to gain more rights to the north west passage as it comes into being a much better route when the ice melts away. The US blocked Canada’s acquisition of Nuclear Subs back in the 90’s through a clause they signed with the UK to forbid them from selling Nuclear sub technology to any other nation else. So what would have a class of 10 or 12 nuclear subs ended up being scrapped. I suppose Australia being so far away and being able to aid the US in the western pacific is much more beneficial to them then having to go through red tape operating in Canadian waters if we had our own capabilities. Hopefully with Russia and China beginning to flex their muscles on the world stage Canada will be forced to take another look at subs. I would all for Japan building is a dozen Soryu class subs. Those guys know how to build boats fast, and on budget.

[@frankmcgee3213]

Will the Aegis system be able to “talk” to those on American and Japanese ships? If that’s the case, then that makes sense to counter the growing Chinese presence in the Pacific.

[@johngodden4363]

Frank McGee that’s correct - already our three AWDs have that capability

[@Kaegis]

What date in Sydney is this show held? Is it every year?

[@sullyman72]

The Hunter class seems quite big for a FF, nearly 2 x the displacement of the ANZAC class and AEGIS... looks more like a DD on paper.

[@TheBelrick]

I think that cruisers-destroyers-frigates have removed categorization by displacement given how the size of the ship has little impact upon the cost of the ships. I think now that ships are classified more by PRIMARY purpose. Destroyers air defense, Frigates anti sub and cruisers flagships/antiship

[@TheBelrick]

@Wayne Haile aussie would never be a match for china hell you cant even keep your parliament your own

[@getstuffed2391]

Bel Rick China is no match for China they basically killed themselves as soon as they started lying to the world and yeah Australia would stand no chance against China were talking about a super power but then again China could never invade our wildlife is to dangerous for them to handle

[@aquillandscroll6428]

Wayne Haile You need to take into account that those corvettes armed to the teeth would be in for shit if they ever get hit. It’s not a wise decision when you have so much weaponry for a corvette with it’s much smaller displacement; survivability on those vessels and crew accommodation and various things are likely lacking in that aspect. People keep up playing ships jam packed with vls which could be a fucking shitshow waiting to happen should there ever be a hit on one of said placements .

[@richiesquest3283]

The type 26 looks very capable.

[@Te-kr6gz]

Good👍

[@radityac.m.s6851]

Why you don't equip another anti ship missile when you have another space?

[@wayne.thomson-qe1pf]

Fantastic news all around that everyone wants to be on board in looking after Australia's future in protecting our waterways / country and the Australian Navy and most importantly the Australian people these are all great jobs because it involves ourselves and other countries as well in the present and the future to protect our country and our people as I said before. Enclosure I do not understand my the Australian media don't tell us as an Australian citizens how important this industry is by protecting Australia and major sealanes so that trade can happen between countries it is so vital to Australia and for our NAVY to grow the reasons are because we are a island country our import and export Are all done by sea more than any other country in the world if the shipping lanes were closed Australia would suffer immensely this is why we have allies like United states of America and also the United Kingdom plus other countries who are our allies also all are trying to achieve the same goal of trading with each other countries without getting harassed or threaten by war.

[@DeepseaSteve]

wayne. thomson I did 10 years in the navy and the last 20 as a merchant seaman. All these ships you talk about that do our export and import are 95% crewed and flagged from overseas. Including vessels that don’t leave our coast. Liberal governments have done a great job in decimating the ship building industry as well as the maritime industry,the only thing our navy protects is foreign interest

[@montys420-]

Why does it have the quad pack anti ship missile set-up and not look to b placing lrasm in its mk 41??

[@masterofpuppets7295]

To keep the vls for surface to air missiles, from what i understand they will have quad deck launchers for lrasm in the near future, added bonus of that is the booster to launch it won't need to be as big

[@starchild5793]

those OVP need some serious fire power upgrades.

[@dan7564]

OVP is just for coastguard patrols. I don't think they need a fire power upgrade to shoot immigrant rust boats out of the water. They're just playing water cops.

[@pilot_howie237]

Very nice ships for all countries but Britain especially could buy type 45’s for the same price, a more powerful vessel for the same price?!

[@chala2004]

A beautiful but deadly ship.

[@xr88yu]

In a country that is "gurt by sea" we sould be a naval superpower in our region. I have three criticisms, 1. Aircraft Carrier's ??? 2. These orders are way to small. 3. Will the battery state be able to handle the power requirements to build these ships in a timely fashion?

[@kommandantshad6268]

>battery state lmao, you got us there

[@Lightning_studios437]

Aircraft carriers are fucking stupid in regards to the Australian navy, they have 150000 sailors, an aircraft carrier requires a third of the navy’s servicemen just to operate it, not to mention that the Australian navy hasn’t possessed fixed wing aviation assets since the 1980s which means that it would cost billions to purchase a second hand, or build a carrier, which would take decades without foreign help since Australian shipbuilding has never built a carrier, they’ve only been bought.

[@RogueArbiter]

9:48 what IS that? Its like the Hunter class and a WW2 era heavy cruiser had a baby. 😂

[@yible3278]

The guns look like WW1 era British 14inch guns

[@jacobsharpe8219]

looks like they smashed 4 heavy cruiser guns on a frigate they look so out of place 2

[@l33tpie]

railguns

[@WAJK2030]

I actually like it. With range extending ammo, you get 60km reach for +150mm artillery. Exactly radar range and not to be shot down, like antiship missiles.

[@shatterfox5198]

@Wayne Haile how high are you

[@TeamPhilippines]

That Hunter class is very Beautiful yet Very expensive.

[@anderms1234]

One place you don't want to go cheap is military tech, Australia is just lucky it has the finance to support thats all

[@yible3278]

And very effective. The type 26 family is very high end. They will probably be the most dangerous frigates in the world when they are commissioned.

[@garrycoleman8537]

Hope they have a lot of water tight compartments to save lives!

[@robertwacay9827]

We need new additional frigate type 26 and type 26 destroyer with hi speed 6 units each

[@Kurio71]

These are bigger than the Hobarts, aren't they?

[@blumie006]

Hobart is 8000 hunter is 8800

[@tedjohs6113]

How did they manage to design such a huge ship with so few weapons? Seriously the Israeli sa'ar 6 class is more heavily armed and displaces less than 2k tons

[@petermclelland2181]

The floating platform is so vulnerable to sea skimming anti ship missiles.[Falklands] Imagine how more deadly they will have developed by the time they've got this tub up & running ?

[@garwhittaker3743]

The only reason anti ship missiles got anywhere near in the Falklands was because the British didn't have any long range radar and not enough air cover.

[@garwhittaker3743]

The only reason anti ship missiles got anywhere near in the Falklands was because the British didn't have any long range radar and not enough air cover.

[@bobjackson4720]

I'm intrigued why they have to have such a tiny peashuter at the front (and only one). In the past broadsides were the standard, what happens if the single pea shooter becomes faulty or gets damaged?

[@Jack20585]

Starts with M and ends in E

[@Lightning_studios437]

In modern naval combat you’re never going to get close enough to fire your “Main Gun” it’s all about missiles and torpedoes, the days of gun to gun close in naval combat are finished

[@montys420-]

I like the mats's for the ceafar radar alot of tiles on there for aegis and ceafar!!

[@Harldin]

Michael Montgomery Aegis is the CMS(Combat Management System) Ceafar is the Radar.

[@montys420-]

@@Harldinwhy do they always add the spy 1d radar wgen mentioning aegis?

[@Harldin]

Michael Montgomery Times change, yes Aegis has generally come with the Spy family of Radars but in this case they have decided to go with the Australian CEAFAR Radar .

[@montys420-]

@@Harldin cool im glad/hope an Australian radar company makes a radar better then the spy1D and hopefully better then the spy6 radar u.s pacific command want the aliegh burke class upgraded too

[@statsredner9399]

Or even the big 52 bombers lol that would be a huge difference in the game changer

[@emsh.725]

It is smart procurement. Australia, Britain and Canada all using and building the same design. They should now do the same thing with Submarines. Australia and Canada should join the Astute program. Build them in Australia, make financial sense of the program.

[@waynehu664]

Can Australia build the ship domestically? Or it needs the help from the US or other countries?

[@anderms1234]

Need a good head contractor on board with out sourced consultants, the fact the ship yards are being built under a green field agreement means no dollar will be spared and will have cutting edge construction process which should aid in building the ships substantially. I think lessons were learnt on the AWD program.....well I hope

[@TeamPhilippines]

is this the same with "NAVY RECOGNITION" or just the same host?

[@NavalNews]

Hello, I left Navy Recognition in December. Now I run navalnews.com . Xavier

[@TeamPhilippines]

@@NavalNews ahhh. I hope you can also feature Philippines New Frigates soon.

[@antonioneiro4948]

Sí sí la tipo 26 ya la estamos viendo al dique seco y ahora Navantia a construir los destructores Tipo Hobart qué es lo que puede tener Australia lo mejor de lejos💪💪🇪🇸🇪🇸

[@snapdragon9300]

A continuous build of ships and subs, out to 2050, evidently.

[@Cryshalo]

Only way to keep the industry capable of building them - if you famine and feast the shipyards you'll end up with no shipyards. So you build up the level you require and then just keep rotating.

[@maelc8168]

Interesting

[@seanpearce5809]

It seems to me that if the Oz navy spends its money wisely it will become a potent force.

[@PwerRanger01]

If only NZ did the same.

[@garrycoleman8537]

@@PwerRanger01 NZ has a lot more friends in the Pacific then Australia does! It does not follow the US blindly into conflict !!!

[@garrycoleman8537]

@Wayne Haile They would need more sealastic for the leaking collins class!

[@PwerRanger01]

@@garrycoleman8537 Really? You might want to check that delusion of yours. Recently alot of those small nstions in the Pacific have turned to the chinese despite our donations and help and have now fallen into their debt trap. Look up the 60 mins special on China. You will be enlightened. Conflict will be inevitable if they keep it up. We will need the us and Aussie more than ever for protection thanks to the weak leadership we have had who think everyone wants to be friends.

[@davidtaylor351]

@@soulsphere9242 Re the f16s. NZ didn't turn the deal down. The National led govt signed the contract for them. And the RNZAF had personnel in the US doing the preliminary work to bring them into service. Then in 2001, the Helen Clark Labour govt cancelled the deal. And the rest, as they say, is history.

[@mightyshrigga_3826]

0:29 Whats that ship from Lürssen?

[@originalresqme]

SEA 1180 Offshore Patrol Vessel

[@mightyshrigga_3826]

@@originalresqme Hmm it looks like a Corvette..i heard the German Navy is getting a few new ones. Thanks anyways

[@mightyshrigga_3826]

@@originalresqme So i looked it up on Google and it seems to be the new K180 Batch II Corvette "Köln" for the German Navy

[@originalresqme]

@@mightyshrigga_3826 Yes, I am sorry I didn't pay attention to the time stamp you mentioned in your original post. I just assumed you meant the OPV at 4:48. You are correct; that is the new corvette (although I think it's K130, not K180.) I apologize for not reading your post carefully.

[@mightyshrigga_3826]

@@originalresqme Its okay

[@musmallowxplendid2806]

I hope all minister in malaysian have some brain and have patriosme like every country to buying war ship. Untill now LCS class corvetete Gowind delay to launch

[@rehanfauzan4623]

what is that peculiar radar and how good is it?

[@dan7564]

Phased Array Cefar 2 radar. They have smaller ones recently upgraded on the destroyer classes. There's been reports that the energy demand for these new ones is too big and will require more power which will incease the size of the boat which will increase the wake noise and make it hard to carry out their primary purpose of searching for subs : / So it sounds like it's really good, because if it isn't, its really shit and Australian officials are just looking for ways to burn money on our crappy arms industry. Hopefully it all works out. It does look sick though. Makes it look so futuristic.

[@0takedown588]

Wait how many ships are the RAN getting ?

[@masterofpuppets7295]

9

[@jccalventefotografo853]

I have read that now Australia and Canada are not sure to keep on with the british frigates and are again thinking in the new spanish F110 for anti submarine war due to the good results with the Hobart class.

[@veracitynorth2860]

Your reading was completely incorrect. Canada is moving full steam ahead for the Hunter class Frigate.

[@jccalventefotografo853]

@@MMG008 How can they be noisy if it is still a project...

[@jccalventefotografo853]

@@MMG008 I think you are mixing two spanish frigates, F100 is the air warfare. F110 is the new spanish project for ASW wich is the one with more possibilities to be acquired by USA in the FFX program. wanna see the project? (hope we star building next year) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmq5kqx8qsmnr7M

[@jccalventefotografo853]

@M'Load, 1Man Bukkake Baller. Cum hard or go home. www.navantia.es/en/products-and-services/systems/scomba/ SCOMBA this is the combat system, designed with some technology transfer from AEGIS to produce a new modern evolution

[@zeousontuan8101]

Tomahawk need to be added

[@loyalist5736]

Don't make them anymore.

[@seantran6689]

Has anyone thought of building anti aircraft and anti missiles defences to protect these multi billion dollar yards building tens of billions of dollar contracts?

[@blt308]

the integrated mast is massive and looks weirdly out of place

[@andrewwhite1065]

What of course is not being talked about, is the cost of modification of non-nuclear submarines based on existing designs and the time delays. We need an excuse to kick start a nuclear program here, we have abundant and cheap raw materials, just need to import some of China's cutting edge and far safer new generation powerplant technology and expertise. A joint program would be great for both nations economically and further cultural ties. Could easily take care of baseload power into the next century as well and at a far lower price for everyone. Interesting video, glad we are buying into the very best ... minus that key and vital powerplant. We do, as someone recently said on Sky news, 'we have a huge coastline and getting a submarine at effectively a brisk walking pace can take weeks of travel, versus days in a something that can cruise at 30+ knots and virtually never has to be refueled for the life of the vessel and is emission free'. For not even attempting to put the case for nuclear in any form now to the public, based on the 2 key areas of national security, one more pressing than the other, and that require strong and decisive action, is negligent. Energy, water, boarder & regional security should be front and centre. Now with stronger than ever conservative support ... maybe there is no time like the present. The increase in defence spending is to be applauded, geopolitics aside? Some of the defence budget though should be directed toward space, the types of equipment, training, technologies, the future jobs etc. and where the military sees itself playing a role. Will our involvement be civilian or military lead in terms of laying out the necessary infrastructure? Too many questions about our very near futures.

[@Tagadarealty]

And latest AIP are more effective than Nuclear sub. Since they can reach the same longer of diving than nuclear counterpart, they are a better choice. The lone sub where the nuclear prop is a real necessity are for ballistic sub, because of the specific mission.

[@redjacc7581]

the skeldar v-200 ums, considering the advances in drone tech..............why would you make this thing look like a helicopter?

[@phinix250]

perhaps, ease of landing in bad weather states

[@redjacc7581]

@@phinix250 yeah i meant more like the commercial drones with multiple rotors and not the plane types that land on a runway like the predator.

[@nasigorengpecelesteh1506]

Wao expanse ship yard buildinf

[@ronniefarnsworth6465]

Type 26 is a "Destroyer" in all but name with it's tonnage, weapons and missions that it can perform !

[@Evil.Totoro]

Ronnie Farnsworth shhhhhhhhh we all know it, but those softies in government think that’s too aggressive sounding and expensive.

[@TofuBoi_]

Looks like an upgraded type 26. Good for them, when compare to Canadian navy......

[@dan7564]

The Canadians navy's might be better, they are certainly pricier than the Australian ones.

[@eddiegaltek]

So Australia still thinks it can patrol the Pacific ocean in a diesel-electric submarine? Do they still think the cavalry ride horses into battle?

[@goldcoins4109]

When in combat they are running off lithium batteries via electric motors which can not be any less quieter and no heat signature un like a nuclear sub. These are not out dated by any means it's quite the countary with the advancements in battery storage and electric motors these subs will be at the forefront of naval tech.

[@paulbaker9277]

Were we just giving an Easter egg .

[@sureshkannoli9277]

🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@PatrickSavalle]

The Hunter class ship looks very inspired by the Russian Admiral Gorshkov class, probably slightly superior radar but greatly inferior weapon systems.

[@PatrickSavalle]

@Ron Lewenberg I am pretty sure. Yes. Look at the horrible performance of other Raytheon systems. The MIM-104 Patriot is completely failing in SA. Their AIM-9X couldn't hit the SU-22 over Syria. Not only do I think Russian systems are much better, I believe that SM-2 is way worse than many other systems.

[@anderms1234]

If you buy weapons you buy from the states period... Russia's GDP is the same size of Australia's with 100 million more people (aus 24mil) buy nice not twice

[@PatrickSavalle]

@@anderms1234 And yet Russia is a superpower and the current diplomatic powerhouse, while Australia is some 2nd grade US puppet. The Russian army is by far the best equipped and best trained. Easy to see in Syria. Why do you think all the M.E. and Asian nations are buying Russian weapons, Mig-35, Mi-28, T-90, S400 etc.? Their shit works. The US hasn't built a successful weapon system in decades. The F16, F15 were the last good systems,

[@Praxics0815]

@@PatrickSavalle Russia is a regional power dabbling in invading their former satellite states and supporting middle east dictators using mostly mercenaries for front line work. Birds of a feather flock together as they say. The only reason they stay in any form relevant on a global scene is because they got enough nukes. Russian military tech is in these regions cheaper and easier to get as their entanglement with Russia makes them suspicious to the USA and hamper weapon exports, see India. And tell India that Russian shit just works with their aircraft carrier… they don‘t seem to be quite convinced of that. Nor is the Russian military the best equipped. The navy is literally rotting away. While Russia finally gets around removing the scrap metal from the see they are not there yet and they had to escort their carrier to Syria with tugs as it was in imminent danger of breaking down every step of the way. Best trained? The Average US pilot has double the flight hours than the average Russian pilot. In the US they strife for about 200 hours a year in Russia you be lucky to get 100. And great achievement mostly air striking some random camel driver armed with outdated captured equipment. If it gets dirty Russia sends in “Wagner” fighters first and foremost and does not report or even acknowledge their losses. A1+ for upholding transparency and martial law. If you want best equipped and trained you probably need to go to Israel.

[@PatrickSavalle]

@@Praxics0815 Russia liberated Syria (on their request) from the US sponsored, trained and armed ISIS Jihadi's. They saved Crimea (on their request) from the US sponsored neo-nazis. Meanwhile the US killed 25M (!) since WW2 in unprovoked wars of aggression.

[@legoffguillaume3175]

With the futur 15 French suffren barracuda, Australia will be very strong on the sea

[@ding020468]

@Wayne Haile Program is for 12, but that number seems unlikely to be reached for a variety of reasons including manpower shortages, and the ridiculous length of the program which will probably see unmanned options bypass this designs capabilities long before the last one is delivered.

[@force515]

Any chance we will buy Virginia class?

[@riepie]

@@force515 The US only builds nuclear-powered subs

[@suoer8867]

非常的漂亮，隐身性能应该不会差，看起来真的挺厉害🤔

[@stoneyascension7250]

Seems a bit worrying, that if we end up in a time of war in the next five years all the build & maintenance is carried out in one part of the country.

[@yible3278]

They could just bomb that one place and Austraila and any supporting navies using that base/yard are up the creek

[@Helios6221]

​@@yible3278 If they can get to Osborn then we've already lost, look it up on a map. But we also conduct maintenance, repairs and operation in other parts of the continent.

[@corey8420]

How many VLS on the Frigate?

[@jaybluff281]

Up to 48 strike length on the foredeck, plus 32 tactical length behind the funnel deckhouse. None of the variants (UK, CAN, AUS,) carry that however. 32 Mk.41 seems to be the preferred fit.

[@loveaustralia5937]

💐💐💐💐💐💐👍👍👍

[@fcalvaresi]

Barracuda subs 👏👏

[@DimaEgorovRU]

You guys need to stock up a larger navy your surrounded by ocean

[@elvinsmatthew]

what we need are carriers

[@MrVice123456]

We have 2

[@MrVice123456]

Wayne Haile with some minor modifications we can convert our carriers to carry fighters.

[@elvinsmatthew]

@@MrVice123456 t the expense of getting troops ashore. there are plenty of options out there right now

[@elvinsmatthew]

@Wayne Haile look up the charles de gaulle class thats perfect for us

[@dean1039]

The Queen Elizabeth class would be a good option for Australia. And can be built in Australia at BAE, much like the T26/Hunter.

[@alanbstard4]

" design changes to the combat system to make it a world ship " You mean fit a US combat system. Here we go again!!!!! From defence news " he Australian government has mandated the incorporation of a CEA Technologies electronically scanned radar, which is designed and manufactured in Australia. It has also required the Lockheed Martin Aegis combat system and an Australian interface designed by Saab Australia. They are never satisfied. It has to be a US combat system every time, on subs too. What was wrong with the native combat system?

[@barriewright2857]

So the Australian navy is tooling up, I wonder who against.

[@mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520]

1:24 why does SAAB and the Australian built system need to be integrated into an aegis system Just pick one this sounds like triple the maintenance and triple the amount of contractors and consultants needed

[@georgepantazis141]

It is superior 🇭🇲

[@mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520]

@@georgepantazis141 sounds like a cheap knock off like everything Australian, if it’s so superior why’s there no export market for it ?

[@teddy2738]

FRIGATES ? ja ja ja ... Destroyer not more

[@statsredner9399]

See I would like to know if there's anyway to put the gun the gun that's on the A10 on a tank or a ship if they could . I think that would be the real deal for a tank not just pop one at a time the A10s gun is the enemy worst nightmare the burrrrr !!! Lol good by

[@aussiemilitant4486]

The GAU-8 is already used on the 'Goalkeeper' CIWS systems, as opposed to the 'Phalanx' systems using the M61 Vulcan. Also people need to chill out about the A-10's, they are really not that great, they are a very slow platform with the radar cross section of passenger airliner. They also require a warzone that has already been pacified of any AA and Radar networks to do the job required of them. Hence why the USA is the only Nation that could actually pay for them to be kept in service despite much much better options available.

[@BallisticSollution]

8800t, 150m long and only 32 VLS cells? That is nowhere near enough when we only have 12 major combatants - they should all be armed to the teeth. Not to mention pairing with AEGIS and that huge CEAFAR radar array, 32 VLS is simply a waste of the platform. If the Hunter class was just an ASW platform like they say, it wouldn't need AEGIS. The systems do not match the platform. Throw another 24-32 VLS behind the exhaust stacks like the British have on their Type 26, then maybe the Hunter class will actually be decent. This seems to be a constant with Australian defence purchases, we never buy enough, and we never arm them accordingly, especially RAN. 48 VLS on an DDG? Should be 64 or more. 40mm main gun system (which is a new platform not used anywhere else in the world) on the Arafura class OPV, when the same class ship has a 57mm main gun in the Brunei Navy. Everything we buy is overpriced, half baked and undergunned. We are not getting good value for money on our Defence purchases. I don't have a problem with the platforms, just the fit out. It never matches the current need or requirement to match or overmatch our potential enemies.

[@himbisaquatics]

while the RN City Class will be fitted with 48 cell VLS Sea Ceptor anti-air missiles, 24-cell Mark 41 VLS for: Tomahawk, ASROC and LRASM offensive misilles.

[@rehanfauzan4623]

exactly what i thought as well, australia always buys stuff at staggering price for such small numbers and not so-top notch platforms.

[@rehanfauzan4623]

and their most insane procurement is their sub with the price tag at $70 billion dollars for 12 subs

[@maxt7525]

Lurssen is as stealthy as a pineapple.....only Australia would buy something like that. Other countries OPV’s are far more advanced in their platform

[@lem096]

so strange seeing david knox talking warships and subs

Sounds promising. Now we just need 6 nuclear boats from the UK or US, upgrade the LHDs for F35s, and build two anti-air cruisers to fill out two battle groups.

[@birdmonster4586]

The idea of Carrier conversion for the Canberra's has been floated around since Abbott's days. Basically it was considered "Too expensive, Difficult, and you won't have a very good carrier in the end" However our Canberra's did maintain their ski ramps and the Juan Carlos that they are based on used that to launch Harriers so maybe the possibility is there, but it might just be better to build another, that way you don't diminish the Amphibious capability. Or hell, Buy a Queen Elizabeth class, Then you'll have a real carrier.

@@birdmonster4586 A couple of dedicated carriers would be great however I could not see them being operational anytime soon even if the government went ahead with procurement (fingers crossed). If the Spanish ship can handle harriers then I don't see it being a huge leap to ship F35s. While I appreciate the economics behind these decisions, I have always felt that our serviceman deserve to have the absolute best equipment. It's the least we can do for them.

[@tesstickle7267]

Didn't i hear that Australia was having french diesel subs? That would be the biggest waste of time and money for sure. Nuclear submarines or just don't bother. Ask UK for astute class subs and type 45 anti air destroyers (both £1 billion each) (not cruisers) and Queen Elizabeth class super carriers at £3 billion each (biggest and only super carriers outside of the USA)

[@nathanb8721]

The conversion cost of both Canberra's is the same as buying a 1 new Canberra set up for f35B's add in that HMAS Choules needs to be replaced in less then 10 years it would make more sense to order 2 more Canberra's set up for f35s and keep the other 2 ships as they are giving more flexibility

[@tesstickle7267]

@Billy most of the best nuclear subs have electrical,pump jets etc. A good stealth sub is one that doesn't need to snorkel,diesel electric must do this often where as nuclear do not(remains undetected) nuclear can go faster further and without needing to stop ,surface or refuel..missions can remain active longer. And if your sub can operate with the coolant pumps secured you go dark much more quite than electric. Cost is the only positive I'm seeing for non nuclear. It's old technology,Canada might sell the diesel electric subs they purchased from UK in the 70s. Otherwise only few options remain, dreadnought, astute, trafalgar, vanguard, Virginia, sea wolf, ohio and LA class. 4 of which are ballistic missile subs and the other 4 are attack hunter killers. Ask nicely and I'm sure UK or USA will sort something for a friend.

[@kelvin869]

We need full on nuke powered subs and aircraft carriers, loaded with long range hypersonic anti ship missles, including nukes.

[@redherring9497]

Yes nuke powered subs with ICBMs but not the aircraft carriers,vwe don't need them.

[@Azwan-jr4qd]

Nice LCS ship for Malaysia Navy, goods choice...

[@maxlasthero1673]

20 Chinese rust buckets against 1 Australian WARSHIP..... that sounds like a fair fight :) LOL

[@maxlasthero1673]

@Wayne Haile we not replacing warships to match China! To hold the Chinese we building a new fleet of subs :)

[@abhijitmohanty8541]

Who is here after Aussies dumped the French.... Oooooo boi....

[@prepareuranus8097]

No wonder the US navy needs Australia as consolations for there’s

[@force515]

Why don't we add anti ship & sea sparrows to our new patrol boats.Better to give them a big punch with China hounding Indonesia waters

[@arwo1143]

Did that dude just pretend that the Navy’s Radars have a range of only 30-40km? Hahaaaa…. Did you gets stuck in 1950 buddy?

[@JJSPARROW1978]

The how we can piss Commonwealth money up the wall day. Pointless really, our adversaries have deployed their people inside, like a trojan horse. Can those ships transform from sea to land variants?

[@nidhoggvomwalde2280]

Music sucks, sorry.

[@MrHeyki0086]

Pineapples

[@deplorabled1695]

Pull out of the French sub deal, it stinks.

[@jamesmerkel9442]

lockheed martain is not allowed any gov contrct work any where on my planet 2 jubilees 100yrs ban, & boeing is shut down forever & ever not allowed to b in buss Amen!