Paddle Out through ANY WAVES on Longboards - How I learnt this (FULL GUIDE)! TSG

[@BenConsidine]

For anyone who may be looking for any longboard coaching video analysis, we're getting things up and running and I'd be stoked to assess and set up a plan for what you're looking to improve on! If you are at all interested please feel free to email at [e-mail] Cheers everyone! Ben 🤙

[@laurat1129]

Thanks for confirming this: 3:13 lifting the board over the wave breaks, then paddling out and pressing down 5:00. Not a sailor myself, but there's something satisfying about hearing my 9'4" round-nose hit the waves, like the hull of a sailboat. The "Superman" is kinda fun! The few times I've tried a turtle roll, though, I had a hard time holding on to the board or rolling back on top in time before the next wave. Duck dives or piercing the waves are also tricky. Although I get excited for big swells, I've learned 3-5' is challenging for me, esp. b/c it means a harder time paddling out and a crowded lineup. While the LB pintail w/2+1 fins can maybe handle big waves, I'm most comfortable as a novice in 1-2' w/the single fin, esp. when everyone else has decided it's not worth paddling out. Those have been my best days.

[@tonybeatbutcher]

With a Turtle-Roll I don't wait until the water is of my face, I directly start to paddle blindly for some seconds towards the line-up. And when a bomb is coming I mostly paddle fully towards it. AlsoI always grab the board by the nose. I live in France and we don't have so much smaller days.

[@coffeeman2079]

I’m 60 now and have always used a longboard. I’ve got a pretty good turtle roll but never tried duck diving. Thanks for the tips on how to on a long board which I’ll try next time out at Llangenith on the Gower.

[@BenConsidine]

Epic!! It’s tricky but if you get it can be super helpful especially in some messier/bigger conditions - would love to know how you’ve gone with this as well! If you’re still working on it and had any questions feel free to reach out I’m always happy to chat! 👏🤙 I’ll pop an email and Insta down here just in case [e-mail] TheGlideSurfPerformance

[@caraault2892]

Great duck dive advice i was definitely doing it wrong not shifting my weight back over the tail Thank you 🤟🤙

[@angelinadobler79]

YES, please do the video on surfing and getting out in bigger waves. One thing I really struggle with is a wave breaking EXACTLY where I will be or really JUST in front of me. This means the white water is exploding right there and I feel like I won't be able to hold the board turtle rolling. What to do? I am talking specifically about bigger waves as I know I can just push through in smaller ones. But I mean big, heavy exploding white water. Also, I was told by a very good longboarder that another option is to tuck the board under my arms by the nose (kinda like a sideway hug) and then hold the nose with the other arm. I have seen my friend using this in quite big white water as well. He says it's safer for the shoulders. What do you think?

[@pumapaw2020]

I like it second paragraph comment. My question is are u walking the board out holding the nose?? I'm an older dude so I took advice to walk the board out as far as I can which I figured out to to hold the nose on either side which I now wax to the top of the rails on each side for better grip. Works for turtle roll grip too. Walking out does save me a lot of energy 🤙

[@russr1338]

Learned that during duck dive, we should move our body back over the knee. I just figured a long board has too much volume to do a duck dive. Will have to try. Thanks Ben!

[@zveroboy9123]

Thanks 🤙🤙🤙

[@BenConsidine]

No worries at all!!! 🙏🤙 hope it was helpful!

[@bpdgls1]

Great video Ben. Thanks for posting!

[@BenConsidine]

No worries at all Brian!! Hope it was useful, yewww!! 🙏🤙

[@markdearlove8634]

My top tip for the turtle roll is to push the board away from you while you are upside down and the wave is passing over. Although counterintuitive this can reduce arm fatigue and make the board surface quicker allowing a quicker roll back onto the deck. The wave will already be pushing down on the board as it passes over so trying to pull it further towards you wastes energy. Give it a go🏄‍♂️💥

[@eddyb6790]

Really nice video thanks for the advice!

[@BenConsidine]

No worries at all Eddy!! Stoked it was helpful for you!! 🙏🤙

[@peterpage9017]

I was hoping you'd do a video on this subject

[@BenConsidine]

Hope it was helpful!! If you have any suggestions for future vids you’d like to see let me know!! 🙏🤙

[@richardbunney2928]

Brilliant video thanks. Something I’ve struggled with for years 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 👍🏻

[@BenConsidine]

No worries at all Rich!! Stoked you’ve found it useful, would love to hear how it goes!! Hope you get some waves, yewww!!! 🙏🤙

[@rayo1371]

advice is gold ... thank you..

[@BenConsidine]

Epic!! So stoked you found it helpful - yewww!!! 🙏🤙

[@mrjmarv]

As always amazing!!! People are sleeping on your channel

[@Berniz123]

I can't duck dive a 9.2 board but I learned that turtle roll still works with 6-8ft waves. I just need to hold the nose and pull it down. It works 9/10 times

[@BenConsidine]

Yeah its definitely the way to go for bigger waves! Glad you've found some success with that, getting the big boards under can be super tricky haha - also worth trying out the pencil dive!

[@Berniz123]

@@BenConsidine I'll need to look that up haha thanks

[@icysurfer1]

I learned how to force the Nose Under the wave, in Big Waves on Maui with a 8'0" funboard (It's what I liked to ride at the time). Occasionally, I would find Little Bruises on the Inside of My Arm, and I knew it was intense. I was grabbing the rails THAT hard with My Whole arms, wrapping em around the nose and grabbing my hands together under the board. So as to NOT lose the board. Boards can break if One lets em go in Big Surf, Or risks a Broken Leash in Huge Surf. Bad Scene to lose Your Floatation device..!

[@tobyvojkovic816]

Hey mate, just watched your getting out the back vid. The section about the turtle roll, what fin have you got there on your pink and orange board? Cheers

[@ethanlu1220]

It's really useful coaching. Thanks for sharing. I am still practicing duck dive and facing some barrier. I think I know what stuck me. I don't push my body back after nose diving. I will try it tomorrow.

[@paulsmith4220]

Ben I really appreciate this effort. I'd love to see more of skilled longboarders paddling out in bigger waves. We learn a lot by watching. BUT the turtle roll is all about the speed of recovery which you didnt show the how. Close period waves are edpecially hard even when smaller if revovery is too slow, apart from the energy burn. Know anyone that is really good at it?

[@BenConsidine]

Ohhh this is a great point to cover!! Definitely overlooked that here and could squeeze that into another video for sure!! 🙏🤙

[@ofsuchisthekingdom]

Great video. Honestly this was exactly the advice I was looking for! Thank you!

[@BenConsidine]

EEpiiccc!!! So glad it was useful, yewww!!!

[@millsinfotech1]

Awesome vid mate. Subscribed

[@TheBackwasher]

I'd love to know how you'd handle a wave the size on the one at 11:20 without bailing your board.

[@BenConsidine]

I believe I just rode that one in enough until the white water died down a bit, then I could step on the tail and stall off it or kick off!

[@TheBackwasher]

@@BenConsidine Thanks for the replies :) In this case I meant if you were not riding the wave but instead paddling out and the set broke a few meter in front of you. I know I'd check behind me and just ditch and dive (and hope the leash would hold)

[@paulsmith4220]

​@@TheBackwasheryou can sit on the back of you board facing the shore. The big white water will push you towards the beach but mostly go over the top as it's less for the water to can and wrench away from you. If you are still connect, it's a pivot then paddle recovery. Otherwise dive deep and stretch the leash as you say.

[@matthiaspeiffer9866]

Would defo love a video about finding the best way to get to the back mainly for beachbrakes

[@lastsurfer]

좋은 정보

[@BenConsidine]

@@lastsurfer 🙏🤙

[@charlesloomis2224]

Interesting. When I tried to duck dive on my longboard...the damn thing wouldn't sink! Ended up turtle rolling. Next time I will try pushing down on one side then the other. Thanks for the advice.

[@jimmccarley9609]

Interested in the longboard duckdive. Have you seen the vid of JOB surfing the backwash out at Pipe?

[@BenConsidine]

Okay epic!! I’ll try to delve into that further! Haha i definitely have 😂 always another option!! 🤙

[@lizaguillon1025]

Definitely a full tutorial on duck diving would be great!🙏🏽

[@BenConsidine]

Hey liza!! I think there's a vid I did on duckdiving if you havn't found that already :) type my name and duck dive and should come up on KZbin - if there's something I'm missing from that video am all ears for new video ideas :) yewww 🙏🤙

[@ddangbochae4738]

Hello Ben. This video was really what I needed. I have been practicing longboard duck dives for a while, but it is difficult to put the board into the water. I wonder if the board's buoyancy is too much for me to duck dive, or if I just don't have the skills😂 (60kg/9.4ft, 70~80L). I wish there was a video of practicing duck diving in the water.

[@danielbarbieri8199]

Duckdiving is the best, tilting the board is a very good idea, but won't lifting your leg drag you back with the force of the white water ? What is the purpose ? You compensate the lenght of the board adding weight leverage ?

[@tadjusczyk8867]

Would love a more in-depth duck diving tutorial!

[@jessforsyth4692]

Is it possible to do the duck dive with a 8ft foamy (it is similar shape to a mini mal)?

[@BenConsidine]

It is possible, but tricky! Foam boards are very buoyant so difficult to press in. I'm actually releasing a duck diving video tomorrow with some tips and tricks to get these big boards under waves! haha, I hope that's helpful :)

[@sethm7761]

Definitely would love wave iq and timing when you go out

[@paulburdon7397]

Thanks for this Ben, really helpful as I’m just learning turtle roll. I’ve found that when holding the middle of the board in more powerful waves, the whitewater can catch under the nose and rip it out of my hands. I had taken to holding nearer the nose to try to stop this but you specifically say to hold in the middle. Any idea what I might be doing wrong? Maybe rolling too late?

[@fghkufzc9833]

The timing to use turtle roll and shooting over techniques? Use Shooting through techniques when wave form a curve shape and near breaking in front of you? (I tried to use turtle roll for this situation, but most of time it doesn’t work) and i saw most shot-boarder use duck dive in this situation Use Turtle roll when the wave become white water

[@docfett1]

More duck diving videos please🙂

[@BenConsidine]

I have one coming out tomorrow!! I hope its helpful!

[@pineappletop8751]

I’m still a beginner and usually turtle roll. Can I start to duck dive on an 8.0?

[@TheBackwasher]

There's no way I duckdive a longboard with my 65kg ^^

[@BenConsidine]

Can be tricky!! definitely helps to have a lighter board and more rocker haha

[@retribution999]

Its fine when waves ate two foot high but once it gets bigger than that its a different story altogether. Im surfing in Bali at Kuta beach, the waves are very powerful indeed even when small and easily rip the board from your hands. Same with duck diving, cant get deep enough and just get smashed around with the board. Best thing Ive tried is ditching the board and swimming under the wave but the pull on my ankle from the leash has caused traumatic injury. Many people make paddling out look easy but its difficult to get techniques that work. Also what to do when your in deep white water and getting thrown around, what position to adopt?

[@leehilborn8118]

or dont ride a longboard in waves where longboards have no business being out there