Absolutely glorious work! And Andy, KZbin is drowning in 40k content. I am begging you, any other games are much appreciated as a change of pace. Keep this up as long as possible.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Love this comment, and you're totally right!
@kombatwombat657910 ай бұрын
Never fed up with Fantasy contents. This scratches the part of my brain that still lives in the early 2000's and aches for minis painted to this quality level. Your paintjobs are always awesome.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Cheers wombat!
@MegaSharkX10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'm just happy to see someone painting something other than 40k
@barbarusbloodshed634710 ай бұрын
Ha! Well said.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Haha glad to hear it!
@Bodom1after1midnight10 ай бұрын
Looks amazing, love the blue and red scheme on this
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@intzbk110 ай бұрын
Great work Andy! Can't wait for the rest! Keep the Old World content coming, there isn't enough on YT. Love the channel and your painting style, thanks for the video!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Much appreciated! Thanks for that!
@antonyspencer622210 ай бұрын
Very nice Andy, the Old World content is great because you are covering techniques that we will find painting our own figures irrespective of what 'period' they are for.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
That's a great way of looking at it-thank you!
@aesirstark141610 ай бұрын
Mooore old world! we need more! It's a breath of fresh air in the hobby.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Awesome to hear that, will continue on!
@daviddalglish943010 ай бұрын
Love that you're keeping the Old World hype alive while we wait for GW to get the models stocked. I've always had an idea to do a Mousillon army, make it look a bit rundown and grimey looking, maybe throw in a couple of hints towards the vampire lore with shield designs or helmets etc. I just need to figure out how to make yellow and black work as a paint scheme.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Yellow and Black eh? Stay tuned for today's video :D
@danspencer128110 ай бұрын
I'm loving the Old World vids, I've just started a Bretonian army. More please.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Awesome man, hope it's going well for you! More on the way!
@michaelford414810 ай бұрын
I’m a huge fan of the Old World, and especially the Bretonnians, so I really hope you keep doing Old World and Bretonnian content! Love the videos and looking forward to more! Excellent job!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Awesome! If you have any requests, let me know :) Glad you like the videos!
@graemenoble772210 ай бұрын
loving the old world content! please keep it up!!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Awesome, will do
@ThePGChris10 ай бұрын
I love the influx of Old World content. I like seeing a mix of different models from different games, GW and non GW
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
great to hear that, thanks man
@James__V10 ай бұрын
This video is perfectly timed for me. Currently working on my Bretonnian army so will be looking for inspiration on colours! Also really enjoyed Lords of the Lance, such a good read! I’ve just started using Duncan’s paints too and really like them! Looking forward to day 2!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought the paints might be a bit gimmicky until I tried then-they're really good! Glad you're liking the content!
@mrtricorder10 ай бұрын
Looks amazing. Super excited to see each knight over the next four days
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
I'm excited too haha
@tabletopdan347310 ай бұрын
That looks amazing! These videos have been really tempting me to get back into old world fantasy.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Go for it! It’s a lot of fun, I’ve played a few game now and I love the updates
@Patrick-y4d1z10 ай бұрын
Wish we could actually get a hold of the new models.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
I know man
@redfury9410 ай бұрын
Amazing color scheme and execution! You might like to try to paint the rider and horse separately next time, makes it much easier, at least in my experience 😅 I also used to clip off the bits connecting the hooves to the base, in my opinion they are an eyesore on otherwise beautiful minis. The mini will still be stable if you are worried about that. Also good luck on the tournament. For sure your army will be the best painted one 😀
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Cheers for the advice pal.
@kevinlaflamme856810 ай бұрын
Gorgeous! Can’t wait to see the rest.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thanks man, so excited to see them all done
@simonwiltshire367410 ай бұрын
That looks amazing. Look forward to the remaining schemes.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@giovannifederico160710 ай бұрын
Fantastic tutorial as always Andy! Always looking for ways to differentiate my Bretonnians. Keep it up
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Love to hear that!
@Jason-man-in-black10 ай бұрын
Great job Andy, interesting that you mentioned how long you spent on him, for me this is information I’d appreciate on most videos just because I sometimes get accused (mostly by myself) of being a bit slow but generally it’s because I’m looking at about six to seven hours a week average to work, so the time you have spent is always interesting information for me.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Oh ok will try include stuff like that more often then-please do let me know stuff like that-it really does help me with making content!
@chef558810 ай бұрын
Beautiful miniature and paint job. I am curious about how two identical minis painted in your style, one with wash/shade and one without, would look. Not on grail knights 😅but something cheaper and easier.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Haha yeah won't test it on knights but it's a good idea for showing how shades work. they act like a varnish as well so i would never not use them
@TrickysFlyingBurrito10 ай бұрын
While I'm not into the game I'm absolutely loving watching you paint the Old World, so keep going. I'm getting so many good tips from you and my own painting has really improved as a result, so thanks!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Aw man that's so good to hear, thanks for taking the time to let me know that!
@sethran944710 ай бұрын
Beautiful job! Looking forward to the rest of Grail Knight week! Grail Knights were one of the model sets i was hoping to buy on launch :(
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm still hoping for them to be released!
@Psilocybear10 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I look forward to more of them. I would personally recommend Purple and White as a scheme, I saw Vince Venturella do it and it looked great. Green and yellow could also look great
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Oh will have a look at his knight, love his stuff!
@willowtreedb10 ай бұрын
Looks beautiful. Those two thin coat paints look excellent! Can't wait to follow along with the rest of grail Knight week
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Yeah they really are great paints, worth having a few of the triads in your collection!
@MrNeelneel10 ай бұрын
Demon red might be my favourite paint from Duncan's range. It's got a natural blendy-ness to it that is really satisfying.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a great colour!
@shortti78910 ай бұрын
Andy another awesome video - I found a bag with some of the orginal Knights from years ago and want to paint them now that colour Scheme
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Aw that's great to hear, glad you liked the scheme! :)
@dungeonsanddrybrushing10 ай бұрын
Looks fantastic. Love how the banner came out. I'm here for Grail Knight week for sure.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Awesome man, thank you!
@Joooooooooe1110 ай бұрын
Would love to hear a tournament report of the event once it goes down. Would also love to see your full 1000 point list as that's the level I'm building towards with my Bretonnians to start with Old World with some friends. Love the old world content. Keep it up!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Glad your enjoying it pal. And I will of course be doing a report on the tournament. It mite be on my patreon though.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
As for list. === Bret 1k [1000 pts] Warhammer: The Old World, Kingdom of Bretonnia === ++ Characters [266 pts] ++ Baron [164 pts] - Lance - Heavy armour - Royal Pegasus Damsel [102 pts] - Hand weapon - Wizard Level 2 - Warhorse - Battle Magic ++ Core Units [337 pts] ++ 10 Men-At-Arms (1+*) [40 pts] - Hand weapons - Polearms - Shields - Light armour 6 Mounted Knights of the Realm (1+**) [165 pts] - Hand weapons - Lances - Shields - Heavy armour - First Knight - Standard bearer - Musician 6 Knights Errant [132 pts] - Hand weapons - Lances - Shields - Heavy armour - Gallant - Standard bearer - Musician ++ Special Units [186 pts] ++ 3 Pegasus Knights [186 pts] - Hand weapon - Lances - Shields - Heavy armour - First Knight - Standard bearer - Musician ++ Rare Units [211 pts] ++ 5 Grail Knights [211 pts] - Hand weapons - Lances - Shields - Heavy armour - Grail Guardian - Standard bearer - Musician --- Created with "Old World Builder" [old-world-builder.com]
@leeboy007b10 ай бұрын
I know what you mean when you were saying about the tone. I’ve painted up 6 knights of the realm over the last year using all different styles of painting as I like using Bretonnians to try different styles and new techniques. Some I painted quite flat just with some edge highlights, some air brushed and some with quick scratchy volumetric highlights. I put them all together as a unit and they just don’t look right together, especially the airbrushed minis compared with the other ones lol think it’s best to stick to same technique/style with them going forward with me
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Yeah I know. It’s so hard not to experiment when you’re constantly learning and lots of time passes between models though! Definitely find it easier to paint a unit together so I stay on track with the same techniques etc. I’m sure yours look great though. We always judge our own stuff harder than others will.
@jakobo8810 ай бұрын
mediocre hobbies + old world = instant like
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Yesss
@patimusprime7210 ай бұрын
Looks fantastic. I'm planning on starting a Bretonian force in the near future so I'll definitely be watching these videos.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Oh awesome, would love to see more armies out there!
@ImrahilToChaos10 ай бұрын
Loving continued Old World content! Looking forward to Saturday! Getting my own last bits and pieces together for attendance.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Ooo cool! Good luck with getting everything done on time but don't stress too much! See you there!
@jmc703410 ай бұрын
No complaints here. Loving the content ❤️❤️❤️
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Love to hear that!
@thefyrdman10 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the rest of the week's knights - my pre-order box still hasn't arrived so I'm needing to hobby vicariously through your content!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Sorry it hasn't arrived yet! but glad you're enjoying the content!
@ovan219010 ай бұрын
Day One of the Bretonnia crusade! This came out grate Andy, I feel like these knights are the best excuse for bright colors. Sometimes it feels like not painting an army in its "suggested color" is looked down on, but with knights the color makes the knight Great video can't wait for day two :)
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Glad you're excited for the week! And yes, it feels really freeing with the Knight colours!
@williamamely703810 ай бұрын
Best of luck for your tournament, with your great looking army. I hope I can get my HH army ready by April.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, best of luck getting yours done too!
@theoblivieat10 ай бұрын
Man i'd love to see a vid how you through the core units like men at arms, seeing how you need paint so many of them haha, but every day a new grail knight paint video, is amazing!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
I'll be painting Men at Arms on my stream this week, need a unit of ten for my list this weekend but will try do a video on batch painting them if that would help people?
@theoblivieat10 ай бұрын
That would be amazing! your videos have been super helpfull@@MediocreHobbies
@withDefiance6 ай бұрын
Gorgeous, the only feedback i would have, is that I think it would look better to have darkened the blue under the yellow transfer a little more. It is only something I notice now and wouldn't have thought of myself either before. I think it would make the yellow contrast a bit more.
@MediocreHobbies6 ай бұрын
You are indeed rite.
@mikespaintedminis510010 ай бұрын
Personally I don’t mind what you cover I just enjoy seeing how you tackle projects & how it turns out ( which is always great )
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Aw that's really good to hear, thanks man
@stuartwalker959710 ай бұрын
Your my favourite old world content creator
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! 🙌
@willb204910 ай бұрын
The color scheme reminds me of early-90's LEGO Lion Knights, and that's a good thing.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Hahaha yes
@tikiwiki742810 ай бұрын
im moving and packed up my knights but im looking forward to painting them when im done
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
That will be a nice reward for unpacking haha
@scroggie_mini_painting398310 ай бұрын
Hope the series does well! Grail knight week will be great… you either like a challenge or are slightly nuts lol. All the best
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Why do i do this to myself...:D I think I am more than a little nuts But hey it gets stuff painted!!
@morcar899110 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@willowtreedb10 ай бұрын
Please keep up the old world content! I'd love to see more High Elves. I'm just starting my own high elves army.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
More high elves are definitely on the way, trying to keep along with the releases but if you have specific requests let me know!
@vex156110 ай бұрын
All hail Grail Week
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Love seeing people excited too
@74arcath10 ай бұрын
Very nice
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@geertbeekman868010 ай бұрын
i have got the same banner but i use it as my armystandaard and use the armystandaard as unitbanner of the grailknights
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Oh that’s a cool way of doing it!
@michaciemniewski979110 ай бұрын
Looks great but I must say You did paint over Your base blue/red tones with those layering step totally covering them. I would go with more glazing with 2TC. On a limited area too. For a better effect. I mean You just could cut some steps or make more glazes but the overall effect is great!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Perhaps. I’m comfortable with my method so I will probably stick to it.
@michaciemniewski979110 ай бұрын
@@MediocreHobbiesoh we do what we like doing when it comes to hobby. Just shared my observation.
@iLuv2sixty910 ай бұрын
Awesome video. What is that giant Warhammer book on the lower left next to all the army books?
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
It’s the special edition of the 8th edition rule set for Warhammer! It’s a beautiful book
@TheBossGrand9 ай бұрын
how can you know if your colors are in the same tone? Love the video and cant wait for questing knight week!
@MediocreHobbies8 ай бұрын
Honestly it’s an eye thing. If you hold the pots together you should see that they look the same even though there different colours. I know that sounds strange but give it a try.
@TheBossGrand8 ай бұрын
@@MediocreHobbies ok thanks!!
@TheBossGrand8 ай бұрын
@@MediocreHobbies would you say that all the colors on the two thin coats color wheel are about the same tone?
@MrRabbitbait10 ай бұрын
for the speed that's really good
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@JohnnyTightIips10 ай бұрын
If they you post it they will come (Old World videos :D )
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Hahaha very true!
@paulmclaughlin410610 ай бұрын
If the champion uses gold on red for their shield, then they could be the banner bearer's cousin or something. Make a feature of them having the same symbol
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
That’s a good idea!
@nickdavis542010 ай бұрын
I do love knights !
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Who doesn’t?!
@davidjkelly197110 ай бұрын
I am one of those "tone blind" lol ! These videos rock! Are you doing any questing knights?
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
I am indeed doing some questing knights.
@davidjkelly197110 ай бұрын
@@MediocreHobbies Super news! I have 5 of these old models and are one of my favourite designs! Again just undercoated... looking forward to seeing your painting videos on these "ol chaps" :)
@93broome10 ай бұрын
Do you think witching hour blue and leviathan blue might have been a better choice for a more royal blue colour? Love the colour scheme but the grey blue turns me away from it. I'll follow your guide for mine but try with the witching hour and leviathan blue for a more royal coloir blue
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
always take what you like and adapt other parts of tutorials to suit yourself best! These tutorials can just be seen as way of teaching the steps, just sub in any colours you like!
@rpktoday10 ай бұрын
as a vampire counts player, i would love to see some legacy army love! maybe if we get enough talk about them gw might consider making us official again ;_; Love the old world content! keep it up!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Awesome! I have a battle report coming out soon with one of the legacy armies soon, will definitely not be ignoring them! Any specific requests, let me know!
@edmondreynoldsjr.444510 ай бұрын
Great work for sure, but defiantly getting to the Limit with the of the Old World builds!!!!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
That's fair!
@TheJohnlegg10 ай бұрын
And now I have to buy more of Duncans Paints.... I blame you entirely ;)
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Sorry not sorry :D
@jefferymartens630310 ай бұрын
so here for it!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Love it 🙌
@8TimeTurner84 ай бұрын
I'm still in the construction phase of my boxed army for Brettonnia so I've been filling up downtime binging painting videos. As a low experience miniatures painter I am confused why you layer darker colored reds and blues over your contrast reds and blues. Does that not undo the shading and highlighting effect given by the contrast paints?
@MediocreHobbies4 ай бұрын
I use contrast paints as a quicker way to paint base coats, not for the contrast effect! They just speed things up a lot!
@8TimeTurner84 ай бұрын
Oh ok. I have a bunch of peasant bowmen and men at arms to practice your method on. Once I get those done I hope I'll be confident enough to tackle my 12 knights of the realm and 3 Pegasus knights. Then the Duke 0_0 wow I got a lot ahead of me
@questery10 ай бұрын
Please keep on smashing your backlog :)
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Will do, thanks man
@bremer170110 ай бұрын
So... you do paint them individualy after all ;) Considering the Fluff of Bretonnia i suggest you read the omnibus Knights of Bretonnia from Anthony Reynolds. He also wrote the 6th Edition Armybook. If someone really know how Bretonnian Culture and Chilvalry works, it is him. And the book is fantastic as well.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
I didn’t think I’d have time to do them individually til this week 😄 Oh will check that out, cheers!
@mjhsinclair10 ай бұрын
I think there is a simpler way to get complementary colours but still have lots of variety in a unit / army. This is a solved problem by the fashion industry. The problem is the fashion folk and the Warhammer folk don’t overlap much! Use seasons. I liked the Tabletop Time video on this but it was a bit of a shame because they made it about models literally being in those seasons (including snowy bases for winter etc) but it’s just a way to have a really diverse palette that feels natural together. If your whole army / unit is - say - Autumn then it’ll look great.
@mjhsinclair10 ай бұрын
And autumn doesn’t just mean green and brown!
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Okay you explained this so much better than I did! Thank you!!!
@dmzedd774 ай бұрын
For The Lady!
@timothyharnedy449510 ай бұрын
I've sadly had to put my plan for a new Bretonnian army on hold, but my plan in the end is to use the colours of local GAA teams so that I don't have to choose the colour schemes myself.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea! Lots of nice combos there!
@singularityjosh10 ай бұрын
Please tell me you didn’t paint the back left leg intentionally? 😅 it’s a beautiful paint job but it was driving me mad thinking you’d missed it
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Hahaha it’s all painted don’t worry.
@singularityjosh10 ай бұрын
@@MediocreHobbieslegend. Smashing work
@Toshiba197610 ай бұрын
Good video and I support all your videos but gonna be happier when you get back to more 40k. Itching for a tauros paint video
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
When i get my hands on one, I will paint it up for sure.
@jonathanparker455910 ай бұрын
Good scheme. As much as i like the Bretonnians, I'm hoping GW give us an old world skaven army and maybe some chaos dwarves
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
They’re both legacy armies so I wouldn’t hold my breath 😐
@jonathanparker455910 ай бұрын
@@MediocreHobbies true, but I live in hope
@GilthosDrakoniss10 ай бұрын
👍👍
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@fjung729410 ай бұрын
We want fantasy !!! Old world !
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
You'll keep getting it then!
@zachmoss889610 ай бұрын
nice
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@demolishweaklings8 ай бұрын
Looks nice but it would've looked nicer with the more deeper blue. I don't understand the point of that first deep blue layer when you went over it. That is technically a mistake.
@MediocreHobbies8 ай бұрын
It’s really common practice with painting these figures, not a mistake 😄 if you want to paint it a deeper blue, then it’s just a preference thing!
@Thiarus64310 ай бұрын
hell nah, old world is by far the best game system out there imo, no such thing as too much old world
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@sjmarham10 ай бұрын
Huh. West Ham was the first team I thought of.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Yeah i don't know football well haha
@DM-vo2ke6 ай бұрын
Cracks me up when you say you're a very average painter. I'm new to painting so obviously my standards are lower but even comparing yourself to many of the warhammer painting channels, there's really not very many that are that much better and plenty of people who are worse. Now I do wonder whether having good lighting and cameras makes a difference but even so, give yourself more credit
@MediocreHobbies5 ай бұрын
I started the channel because I was hearing so many people get put off by the competition level painters on youtube and social media, I never want people feeling like they need to be at that standard! I paint clean and tidy, and that's just from practice! Appreciate though man. Hope you're enjoying the hobby so far and always ask for help when you have questions!
@TheOldestNoob10 ай бұрын
My opinion is that you greatly underestimate your talent. Also I haven’t played fantasy battle since 92 but love seeing all the content.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
I'm an army painter, not a competition painter, I can still do great looking models, but not Golden Demon standard :D Glad you're enjoying the videos!
@bikelife50895 ай бұрын
Irons!
@bikelife50895 ай бұрын
Just bought a load of orcs through your link
@MediocreHobbies5 ай бұрын
Aw thanks so much man, really appreciate that 🙌🙌
@PeninsulaPaintingProjects10 ай бұрын
Do you mean West ham united ? I'm not even into football and even I know them colours 😂
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Hahaha yes i have since learned this is West Ham scheme
@madmerlinsart10 ай бұрын
You say Arsenal I say West Ham... 😅 I hate that I made a football reference and that I know the colours of certain kits... Love the end result, I certainly plan to add Grail Knights to my army once I get what I have painted. I had a unit in my old army, and I did them all with black barding as they were in mourning for their king/Lord. They still had individual heraldry but were yet to accept their Lords idiot son as their new ruler. Well, that was my lore for it anyway.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
I love backstories like that!! So cool! And yes I have been informed it's West Ham-clearly I know nothing about sport ball things...:D
@madmerlinsart10 ай бұрын
@@MediocreHobbies haha totally agree, sport ball things suck, lol. Unless that ball is the head of your enemy 😅
@Galahax10 ай бұрын
My personal opinion on the business side of things.... strike it while its hot. To me, paint tutorials become less and less relevant as time goes on while people are sitting down to paint their minis, today. To me a tutorial is not as good, not saying its no good at all, but its not as good 4-6 months after something's been released vs. only after a few weeks/month or 2. I believe you'd be garnering more views as its relevant than later on in the year. So yeah, keep doing what your doing my friend.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Thanks man, appreciate that advice!
@kevoreilly655710 ай бұрын
Absolutely not - it makes up for not being bombarded by product from GW 😂
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
Hahahaha true
@Khasidon10 ай бұрын
Saying a red and blue knight can't be next to a black and yellow model in a Bretonnian army. That doesn't make sense at all.
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
True. But that’s also not what I said 😄 it’s about tones, not colours
@Khasidon10 ай бұрын
Ah fair enough I understood it as colours.@@MediocreHobbies
@MediocreHobbies10 ай бұрын
@@Khasidon Today's video is black and yellow :D It's more like neon yellow wouldn't look right next to pastel blue tone type of thing!