Paint so Nice I Bought it Twice (and you might have it already too!) Art Whale 48 half-pan Update

[@esthernganngan8178]

I'm not a big painter but I'm definitely a big paint collector/hoarder. As much as I enjoy your reviews, I have to keep telling myself that "I don't need more paints, I don't need more paints..."😀😀

[@MedaHalmaciu]

Same here. She does not tempt me with the budget brands though. I'm not giving a dime to Amazon.

[@ltlove63]

Omg. Thank You for your honesty 😆 now I know I’m not alone 🤦🏻‍♀️ I’m terrible 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@threesixfiveart563]

Yep yep me too!!

[@hollyw2149]

Do we need Lindsay to give us a “Watercolor Paints addiction/hoarder” group so we can stop spending all this money? 😂 I’m getting really bad about buying stuff she recommends!! (And for some reason I never get the coupons from Amazon like she gets!) I love Lindsay ♥️…have followed her for years, but lately, it just too much of a temptations I watch her paint reviews 😄. Frugal I am not being!! And the worst part for me, is that I’m just a beginner w/c painter (would never have courage enough to call myself an artist!), and I’m not sure I (let alone my budget) deserve these paints. 😕. (But it sure has been fun!) 😁

[@MedaHalmaciu]

@@hollyw2149 I recommend asking yourself if you want to paint or you want to mostly collect paints. I noticed that many good working illustrators inly have 1-2 palettes. I would buy a good 24-36 color palette from a renouwn brand that is available at a reasonable price in your area. But if you are bitten by the "collect and compare" bug, I have no idea how to cure it. 😜

[@debrhodes7021]

Thanks for saving us from our hoarding tendencies and allowing us to live vicariously through you…. Lol. I don’t know how you keep all that pigment info straight but so glad you do! You’re amazing and entertaining and I always learn something. Thanks for the video! ❤️

[@TheToolgirl42]

I have this set and while I was swatching them, I thought they felt very familiar. I started digging through my swatch cards and found the Artsy set that matched. I was really disappointed that I purchased the same paints. I love getting cheap paints and swatching them. I typically used Daniel Smith but don't want to waste it for mixing and practice. That's where the cheap paints come in. I love the experience of opening each pan and getting to know the colors. I think that ship has sailed. That's why I'm disappointed. I also felt like the paints were ok. I obviously like them because I have several pallets of the paints. I have to stop. I said before that it makes sense for you to have this much paint... but someone like me just doesn't need it. I'll have to start a KZbin channel just so I can justify all of this budget paint and colored pencils that have taken over my studio.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

I am doubting that is makes sense for me to have this much as well! I really better stick to my plan of teaching in person in my home studio after the kids move out so I can use some up! I man, I could use it eventually but my collecting seems to outpace my painting! That said it brings 3 joys, buying, using and collecting LOL!

[@TheToolgirl42]

You're absolutely right about the 3 joys! If you ever run out of paint for your classes I'll be happy to donate to the cause lol. I'm telling myself that my future grandchildren will use it. That's terrible.

[@JessClarkArt]

@@TheToolgirl42 omg ....😂I am bad about collecting paints too. I usually keep them in the cart for a couple months, and occasionally the urge to buy it will pass. haven't used the future grandchildren excuse to justify my supply just Yet! Lol I do have an 8 year that paints with me pretty often, so I do use her as an excuse. 😜

[@sondrabrown442]

I’m glad I got the tube set. It is fun to have different sets to paint from though. Thanks for your insights on these budget paints, very helpful! Your reviews have really helped me find great gifts for friends. It’s nice to know that I’m giving something that is great quality that they will enjoy.

[@ElizabethMayoleth]

Thank you Lindsay, for doing the heavy-lifting work for us, definately helping us all make informed purchases. Your knowledge of all these materials is wonderful!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

You are so welcome!

[@cee8226]

What I love about the container is that I can pop in there some paul rubens pans, some cottman pans etc totally reusable. Thank you for the content ♥️

[@shirleybrady3174]

I have found that the Paul Ruben’s 48 are identical colors except for about 6 color changes in the palettes! Are they both made by the same company??

[@andreaizumoto9180]

Another great episode of The Frugal Crafter CSI - Craft Supply Investigation!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Love it!

[@nordicpink]

I like that!!!

[@clkingtx]

Maybe it's just me, but your swatching and color mixing vids are probably my very favorites! They are so relaxing and educational, too. Make as many as you want, and I will do my best to watch them all, probably more than once! Thanks!!!

[@jrm2716]

I got the Artsy set after you reviewed them. At the time I didn't own a budget set of watercolors and was looking to get a set to paint with my toddler grandkids. I am very happy with it. By the time we use the paints, we will be ready for better quality paints. Love your reviews, when I want art supplies, I go to your reviews first. Tfs.

[@watercolourartincapetown2919]

That pink chamois and that lavender box 😻😻😻 looks like the prettiest unboxing I’ve ever seen!!

[@EelKatWendyCAllen]

I'm wondering why everyone got a different coloured tin? I was considering buying this set so I spent the day watching reviews of it... the first video I watched, they received a sky blue art whale tin, the next one I watched recieved white, the next one received pink, and now hers is lavender. I like collecting tins, so I wouldn't be opposed to buying 4 sets to get one of each, as it seems they have 4 available, but no where in the listing do they offer the option to choose the tin colour.

[@capbin146]

Great stuff. You get these to protect your fans. How you remember all this info never ceases to amaze me. As for doing something useful, I definitely think you do. You bring pleasure and light. Thanks 👍

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Thanks!

[@michaelannfitzgerald8742]

This was so helpful since the others were totally sold out. Your excellent reviews certainly do work their magic lol! Thank you and have a wonderful day! :)

[@TheSpinDoctor]

“skin” is the same as the “flesh tone 1” and “flesh tone 2” you also see called “Jaune Brilliant 1” etc. Classically Cad Yellow, Cad Red and Zinc White is one and the other has Cad Orange in place of Yellow and you’re meant to add Burnt Umber and/or Zinc White to get the skin tone you want. In acrylic I mix a cool yellow, midtone red and warm blue to make a brown and then dilute with white and add burnt umber in the same way, but for these Eastern “Flesh” etc etc paints, adding a cool blue can be needed alone with your Burnt Umber. They’re just a convenience mix for portrait painters to give you the red and yellow undertones so even if you make a dark brown skin by adding loads of umber it will have that kind of “glow” you get from the reds and yellow hiding in real skin. The only time I did that falls down is people from Ghana in particular and environs in certain lighting where their very dark brown skin will have a violet or blue undertone but that’s more to do with the lighting than the skin itself ;)

[@joyfulldj]

Richie!! How cool to see you on the mentions again

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Huh, I never heard it reffered to as a base color to mix.im going to try that!

[@nerdywatercolorist6551]

Wow, this was really helpful! Thank you so much.

[@TheSpinDoctor]

@@thefrugalcrafter It’s just a convenience mix but one with only one real use.

[@TheSpinDoctor]

@@joyfulldj I’m still on Instagram just not posting new videos on YT as not worth it anymore.

[@mkboyd6880]

I am addicted to your watercolor set reviews. I need help!

[@pshea5587]

Thanks Lindsay. I bought these right after your review of the tubes. I’m a beginner and didn’t have a palette so figured for $20 I’d get these instead of the tubes and get a ‘free’ palette. I’m frugal too. 😃

[@robot7759]

Yes, unboxing 😆 Those sets even have the same water brushes? The frugal detective strikes again! Murder, she painted. Clueless: Miss Lindsay with a butterknife in the basement. 😉 But somewhat more seriously, what ever happened to just red, blue, yellow, white & black?

[@justacatwhocantype]

Well you get the primaries and black and white in basic gouache sets by many different brands, and sometimes there are also those 5 tube sets of acrylics, maybe also oils. With watercolor it's not really that useful to throw in a white when there are only 5 colors alltogether. But there certainly are watercolor artists who choose to work with only such a small number of colors.

[@la4dreams]

Thanks Lindsay, just got a great deal on the Artsy 24 set on Amazon at an awesome price with a 5$ off coupon I paid 15.93. WOW! Can't wait for them to get here. I appreciate all you do for us💕 Art Hugs💕

[@triciab8751]

Well considering I didn't have a budget set I still find you checking them all out Super useful.....yup I am encouraging you haha

[@e-dubbses403]

Both an inspiration and a cautionary tale in my opinion. Lol 😂 I’m sorry you bought the same supplies though.😞 I know why your bummed, I think I do anyway. I think your bummed because here you bought a new art supply and you were super excited to check it out and it turned out to be something you already have. I would have been bummed too. What’s more fun than new art supplies??? Thank you for the cautionary tale. And thank you for inspiring me with all you create. ❤️🤗💕

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Yeah, it's a gamble buying these watercolors and they could have bern a chalky nightmare so im glad they are at least good paints but not anything new sadly.

[@Panda8ngel]

Thank you for buying and comparing these paints. This video was very helpful and saved me lots of money! I know you have lots of dups, maybe do a giveaway. I usually find these types of videos the most helpful. I like to know which paints are from the same manufacturer so that I can compare and contrast. I would love to see just your recommendation if you were building your own pallet for mixing, which single pigments you would want. Thanks again!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

I'd recommend the Daniel Smith essentials set of 6

[@craftergin]

Thank you for being our advocate! I'm so glad I didn't get on the Art Whale bandwagon. I already have the Doodlehog 48 and the Artsy 24. I do have a request. Would you please paint the little whale on the Art Whale swatch card? It's sad to see him naked with no color. LOL! Thanks for another fun video!

[@annettefournier9655]

Thanks Lindsay. I'm glad I resisted and only got the tube set since I got the doodle hog and have Artsy fan pallets x2. Yeah I noticed the flaking on the fan pallets and a little on the doodle hog. I'm going to give a fan and the doodle hog to my niece. My favorite super cheap is the Pretty Excellent. But since I got a Paul Ruben tube set because( it came with that fabulous huge flat Paul Ruben pallet) on Amazon prime deal days for a steal. I can't justify replacing my very well used Pretty Excellent. 🤔 I now have 18 pallets set up. I'm declaring a moratorium on getting any more. Holy Geesh! 😉💜

[@joyfulldj]

I find it so cool to see after so many years you still use the wrapper thing lol/ so happy that it is working for you

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Yes! Thanks for the tip!

[@joyfulldj]

​@@thefrugalcrafter Isn't it silly how we toss those wrappers and smack ourselves when that pan goes empty :P I forgot who showed me, I doubt I figured that one out on my own. But I still have that booklet. Im not sure I want to know how much you have in your binder now,hahahaha. I have a few paint preferences ; like white nights, sennelier and ds; i kindof know the pigments by now. So I barely buy additionals as I know they wont get used anyway :P

[@Linda-qq5mg]

I don’t need more paints, but still enjoy your reviews! Thank you Lindsay.

[@bethcyr6652]

After watching your review, I read your comments about what set you like the best. You mentioned Paul Rubins so I clicked on the link you gave and ordered a set. I did have to run upstairs first to check my supplies because I am renovating my craft room and forgot what I actually have already. I have been “getting by” with whatever happens to be in my watercolor drawer, mostly dried up tubes of paint. I decided to treat myself and ordered the set. I will have to wait until the end of August to receive them. My husband and I will be vacationing in Maine visiting relatives and friends in the Bangor area! If I see you Lindsay at the dollar store, I will ask for your autograph! Thank you so much for all your very fun to watch videos and extremely knowledgeable advice!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

I hope you have a great vacation and do day hello if you see me!

[@samanthaglorioso8440]

After this video, I now know that I have enough budget paints. I love my Pretty Excellent paints, and I also got the Mungyo and the Doodle Hog paints, which I also like. I have too many of those really cute Superior palettes, but they are handy for painting on the fly, and I have really been painting in my MANY watercolor sketchbooks, so I feel like using these budget paints isn't a waste of money. I save my Daniel Smith, M Graham, Qor, and Turner paints for things that will be exposed to light. I also still love my White Nights. And I do still use my Cotmans, they are familiar old friends! I am getting the Rosa set on Thursday, and then I REALLY am going on a paint moratorium!! Really!. No, really!! Thanks a gazillion for this great video. You are amazing and I truly trust your reviews. Thanks again Lindsay for all your advice. You are the best!

[@jadekwong7483]

It’s useful bc you never know which of the budget brands are available at any point in time when we go and buy them. Always good to know the price so we have an idea of a fair price range for them. Have you tried the boku-undo sumo-e watercolors shadow black and shadow color palettes? It’s a mix of sumo-e ink with a gansai watercolor. They look like fun moody landscape colors.

[@carolpoltorak9334]

Also, I too got these Superior (Tinge) 48 set in the teal metal tin back in May for $9.90 and the 24 set for $5.90. I have never seen them that cheap, so I picked up a couple sets for myself and three daughters.

[@assuntakoay2035]

U r our leader up front there w supplies Most of us njoy colors n splashing a around It’s great t feel free t do so w budget buys So once again Tks f your comments

[@gingerblue]

:-) Glad to know my hunch/research about this set was right (connection with Superior)

[@georgesgentry5835]

Enjoyed the review Lindsay. I listen for the education you provide. I've learned so much about paints. I have plenty of watercolors that will take me a long time to use. Sorry it was disappointing for you.

[@avlucchettiart]

Thank you Lindsay, your reviews have saved me so much money!

[@emilykoch3104]

I would love to see you do your best 5 budget watercolor half pans because I have seen so many of your videos that I don’t know where they all truly fall in order of the best. Always love watching you!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Good challenge! What is budget tho? I have different pics for single tube vs pan sets and white nights, Rosa and paul tubes are artist quality for legacy brand student grade prices. I'll have to think on this as I think it's a great topic! Honestly there are a lot of good ones! I'd probably say the 12 color sets of Rosa, white nights, paul Rubens and then the 36 set of pretty excellent and then the doodlehog 36 and the 24 sonnet.

[@emilykoch3104]

@@thefrugalcrafter you could probably do multiple videos One in the 15-25 range One in the 25-35 One in 35-45 I am always looking for an artist quality one But you are so knowledgeable I think this would be great to see!

[@mjpete27]

I thought that most "budget" paints were made buy just a few companies, now it seems as if China has taken complete control of that market! I like that DaVinci Paints in California works with Cheap Joe's with their paints. I do not know what the difference formula wise is between their "store" brands and the company brands. I do know, I love the DaVinci paints from their watercolors to their oils they make just great paints! The gouache is so superior to so many others I have tried over the years too! I do appreciate how you spend your money, so your viewers do not have to spend theirs! Thank You Lindsay.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

I just came across a review of Davinci I did years ago, did you ask me for one? It really is a great value!

[@mjpete27]

@@thefrugalcrafter Yes I watched the Poppy painting video I just think a newer more robust review might be considered. Would you consider doing a review of Denise's Earth Friendly watercolor palette? I could even send you a small sample of her paint selections, I purchased the fill your own pan from Davinci paints and sent a few samples to friends and relations. Interested? let me know.

[@loondabo9207]

The package sure looks like what my Giorgione set came with, but I love that little whale icon.....it's adorable.

[@BerniBernsify]

😲 Wow I forgot I had the AltENew in my wishlist. I bought the Art Whale 48 set after seeing your tube review bcuz I thought the pans will be easier for me. They were a great price. They even have the same brush! I'm so glad you reviewed these. 😂🤣 I was thinking about cutting up the color chart and gluing it to another sheet in the ROYGBIV order.

[@LarkOnWheels]

I bought the Artsy 24 set (primarily because I loved the color of the tin, haha), and I love the paint! Appreciate you doing the legwork on all these!

[@urbangypsy69]

Lol, my reply was cut off. Anyway, I own the Doodlehog 36 and 48 (bought for family) and they're not the same. Oddly, the 48 set of Art Whale I got are holding up to serious West-facing window light fastness and I have to say, swatch them all, and you'll be surprised. I got the largest set of Paul Rubens and I can say for certain that some of the 'cheaper' paints are, to the eye, identical. I'm not a chemist or mineral expert, but wow. I can't, ahem, say the Art Whale I received is 'for real' but...hm?

[@marshacook3969]

I have way to.many watercolor sets but I love them. I actually have too many art supplies since I just paint for relaxation and fun. I have already given some to my great granddaughter. I bought the doodle hog 48 set after seeing your review and I have the artsy 48 set. Don't feel to bad about you are not alone.😍

[@janicek9399]

I don’t have any of the other pan sets, so I thought I would try these. The swatch sheet is a nightmare, lol. I will redo it in an order I want. I like most of the colors and they seem pretty good, for the price. I must admit the tin is really heavy duty. Nicer than my much more expensive artist set of watercolors. Thanks for all of the detective work! I had no idea how similar or the same they are to other brands. Thanks for all the in-depth reviews you do!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Oh they are definitely good for the price!

[@spktme]

This popped up today which is funny because I just saw the new Lightwish 48 set and thought they looked so familiar so I went to art whale 48 on Amazon and they had the same colors and numbers and case with just a better brush. Then this popped up with after 3 years! So funny!😂 This was such a great video and I'm sure saved so many people from buying the same paints again. 😂 Thank you!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Lol. I just finished my review of the lightwish 48 and they are the same paint! Luckily it's a good manufacturer and I can use them in classes. Fi the brush in the lightwish set, although good quality, is a mix of squirrel and synthetic and not synthetic as the text in the sales pair says. I got the info from a lightwish representative.

[@spktme]

@@thefrugalcrafter OMG that makes the timing even funnier! 😂 Good to know that it's still good paint and I'll be looking forward to watching the review when it comes out! On another note you must be in the algorithms good graces because all week I've been getting older tutorials like some 5 and 6 years old in my time line and have been enjoying the tutorials very much. It's just strange because in all the years I've been subscribed that's never happened, but it's been a daily thing right now and I'm loving it since most are before I started watching. 😁 Let's hope it keeps up and everyone is getting the love!

[@ArtJourneyUK]

I guess there’s only a limited number of watercolour pan manufacturers. Thanks Lindsay 😊

[@thefrugalcrafter]

I think so too! I wish we knew! I have a video coming out next week of another one who also makes a famous English watercolor and sells the same paint under budget lines.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@thefrugalcrafter ooo that will be interesting, my husband used to work for a famous English watercolour manufacturer 😉

[@suze7268]

This made me laugh so much! 😂 Bless you Lindsay, thank you ❤

[@MandyRosko]

To be honest, I'd keep buying them just because they're a good deal and at least you know you're never going to run out, lol, and I'd buy that AltNew brand just for that gorgeous tin with the flowers on it, I want that right now and I've got enough paint to last me the rest of my life, lol

[@reneboykin]

I just swatched my out Monday. Just waiting to here from you.

[@stanky6261973]

Great review, Lindsay! I'm glad I'm not the only one lol. Try not to beat yourself up, too bad. If it makes you happy who cares? Thank you so much for doing this review early so people could return theirs if they wanted to. So you're kind, honest and think about others. Can't ask for more in an artist. Tfs.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Thank you!

[@stanky6261973]

@@thefrugalcrafter You're so welcome :).

[@ColorfullyOptimistic]

I love that you review these. It's a bummer with all the white labels out there. But Im so grateful you point them out. I did laugh that you swatched them to see anyway because that's something i would do 😆. That color order though... oh my

[@thefrugalcrafter]

It's chaos man!

[@Tonisfarm2024]

I personally purchased these for the tin/metal palette. I just love it! I usually don't do the included swatch cards but for some reason I filled in this one. It was like search and paint! Hahaha! (Definitely no rhyme or reason for the swatch sheet order) Anyway I took my time, carefully wet each rectangle and painted mass tone to watered down and its so pretty. I personally think for the price I paid, ($24.50) this budget set has a lot going for it. Nice tin, chamois cloth I assume is for dabbing your brush on...is nice the sturdy box one can store the tin in to keep it from getting banged up, the paints while comparable to most other popular budget brands are nice for the price. I think for someone who may have most of the budget sets available, they won't need or be super blown away with this set unless they can't live without the pretty palette. For someone like myself who didn't have a large metal palette and wanted one, this was a super deal.👍

[@eagercrafter_9014]

I really enjoy these types of videos...it is so neat to see how many of these are the same (like in the colored pencil world). I have the watercolors from Hobby Lobby and they are odd to use.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Ironically they are the same as the doodlehog 48 (different from the doodlehog 36which are like art whale 😆)

[@RoySATX]

The Artsy 42 set is under $15 on Amazon at the moment, in case anyone is looking. Timing is everything on such things, and the stars seem to be aligned just so.

[@elsad5680]

Insightful and informative video about middle grade watercolor paint. Many maybe similar but are reasonably priced and still enjoyable to use. Thank you.

[@andreaharutunian3838]

I bought the 48 Art Whale pan set (25$) and love it! I've been doing urban sketching and LOVE the colors in the set , I'm a color person and find I have uses for all of them...the swatch sheet it comes w is set up so weird so I didn't even use it just made my own - like the set up in the pan... I don't have the other sets u mentioned so I'm very happy with them...thx for all that you share on your channel ❤

[@HiKimiko]

I think after watching... My only question is which tin you like best if the paints are so similar. Mixing area? Extra space to add pans? Exterior color/esthetic? Ty for the comparison videos. They are usually the most helpful types of reviews 💜

[@triciab8751]

My Daniel Smith paints flakes and Crack and get weird too. I'm in Nevada...high altitude and dry.

[@MedaHalmaciu]

If I were to tell my best friend what to buy, White Nights or something better depending on what is available locally. A set of 24 is enough 36-48 is more than enough. Speaking as one who now has over 20 sets.

[@MissMagic]

The box with the wrapping round the palette really reminds me of Paul Rubens as does the paper sheet you got with the first set. I don't think we have any of these on UK amazon.

[@shirleybrady3174]

Paul Ruben’s contain the same colors and color numbers as Art Whale. They do have different changes in color palettes on about 6 colors Art whale hasn’t got.

[@valericaskey2540]

Just bought the Doodle bug 36 and can’t wait to paint the sunset with you. Thanks!

[@carolpoltorak9334]

I also purchased this Art Whale 48 tin set and compared it to a new unopened 48 tin palette set from Superior (Artsy, Tinge) that I bought for my daughter. It appears to me to be exactly the same, they just repackaged it. I have been using my set of Superior 48 half pan set, and they seem to be decent paint, but unfortunately this is a duplicate for our collection. Thank you for the review Lindsay!

[@kookatsoonjan]

Also a duplicate of the Paul Rubens 48 pan set....names and numbers are identical...could they add less filler to the Paul Ruben's...?? They are all made in the same factory...

[@obrown2450]

Thank you for the review! I was curious to know how the Art Whale pans compared to the tubes you reviewed?

[@thefrugalcrafter]

The tubes seem better to me but that might just be bacuse all the colors were very useful and in my own palette I had bigger brush area. The tubes did seem a bit better but I think it might be those factors I mentioned.

[@nadeaner.cowley513]

Hi!!! Great video, you are like a detective!!! I was thinking; maybe instead of swearing off getting more paints all together maybe you chould just focus on saving up and getting more professional watercolor paints- like a tube at a time or little by little. That's what I do....Amazon has great sales of individual tubes of sennelier, DS, and even Qor sometimes. And J acksons sells Schmincke tubes for cheap...when I have an extra 15 dollars I'll pick up a tube that interests me...Okay enough of my unsolicited advice, I apologize.....Anyway great video, and You are so wonderful and thanks for sharing ❤💟

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Oh I have lots of pro paint too, don't you worry 😆

[@susanjerrell9220]

You could always swatch and then do a giveaway. I wouldn't mind pre-swatched paints. 😉💞

[@FaerieDust]

Oh my, I laughed a bit at that swatch card 😂 I think if you've bought one set of Superior paints you probably don't need to buy another budget set. You're more likely to get a dupe than not, it seems. Of all of these I just want the Altenew set. And that's just because I love pretty tins, if they sold the tin empty I'd have bought it already 😂

[@ArtBrain]

Ellen Hutson (a card craft reseller) has put the Altenew paints on sale a couple of times, FYI. They're an awesome company too.

[@sheillaallen2538]

I didn’t have any of these others and I wanted a big convenience pallet so I’m happy with them. I totally ignored the swatch card and man alive they have so many typos it’s ridiculous.

[@djhadaverde]

Thanks for this video! So needed! I suspected about the Etchr watercolor set too, so overpriced! I must say Superior watercolors are great for the price, nice for students and also for professional who want to practice. But it happens the same as with budget colored pencils. They are a very few big manufactures that produces the same colored pencils under several brand names. It's the same with Superior watercolor, they make paints for many other brands and sell all them in Amazon and Aliexpress. Thanks for giving more light to this "problem". You are our Lady Colour Detective! :D

[@PamelaRodriguezPamDesigns]

Did you know ArtWhale has a KZbin channel? I think they should be paying you. You make them look a far sight better!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

It didn't come up when I first searched but I see it now

[@jom6829]

Sorry that you're the one buying these to inform us what's worth getting and what's actually the same but I appreciate it. The swatch card made me laugh too.

[@susanjerrell9220]

Yesterday I re-watched your video about the Pretty Excellent/Mei Lang pan set. I have them and was curious to what you thought again. BTW I love em. The thing is, in 2018, you began the video with your problem of buying too many watercolors. I thought it was funny that three years later you are still saying, "I have to stop!" Just roll with it. Accept yourself. You will buy every watercolor paint that you can. Just breathe. 😁

[@thefrugalcrafter]

At least I'm consistant

[@susanjerrell9220]

@@thefrugalcrafter , 🤣🤣🤣

[@jenthulhu]

I compared my unopened Art Whale to my unopened Superior brand sets--both half pans. The paint names and numbers are identical, and the packaging is very similar, just as you found. I've been so busy I haven't had a chance to open them yet! Really looking forward to using them now. I REALLY appreciate that they give us the pigment codes used.

[@jenthulhu]

So I looked at where each of these dupe companies are located, based on their contact info on Amazon. Artsy is based in Beijing. Art Whale is based in Miami, Florida (the official company name is a person's name). Doodle Hog is based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Superior Arts is located in a city in China that I'm unfamiliar with: cixi zhejiang is what is listed on Amazon. So I think that Superior is making these for various entrepreneurs.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Yes, for sure

[@jeankellner4314]

Thanks, Lindsey, I really did enjoy this. I like how informative you are and your "digging" into the mystery of what blends the pigments really are. I have to. admit, though, that I love my Paul Rubens 24 set (artist/professional one) and so I clicked on your Amazon link to view the 48 set. I have to say, I really want that one now because of the extra blues and yellows in it. I didn't see you review the 48 set. I am wondering what you think of all the colors -- whether it is really worth it to get it since I already have the 24 set and the 24 sparkly set, too. I find that so far I haven't used the sparkly set . . . but Christmas is coming and I bet in making cards and bookmarks that could come in handy and be fun to use. :) Thanks! I wasn't one to "hoard" but now that I am doing watercolor, I love to buy these sets! I just bought the QOR 12 pan and then I realized I meant to buy the high chrome color set of six so then I bought that. I have some Van Gogh plein air sets. I love the muted color one by Van Gogh -- it is my Gogh to set LOL. Seriously, some of those pans are getting empty. I have the plein air basic mixing color set with some earth tones thrown in. I like the creaminess and intensity of the Van Gogh sets even though I don't see them reviewed too often . . . so I bought the bigger 24 flower/botanical set. The colors in that are fine. But I hate to take that set with me because none of the Van Gogh sets are in metal tins and the 24 set is constantly falling apart if I set it sideways or the wrong way. Nothing stays in place, so I won't be buying the sets in plastic anymore (at least Van Gogh) because of that. Tins are definitely so much better.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Well, I also have the Paul rubens 24 set and I just bought the 48. I've wanted it for a while and they had it for $62 today so I took the plunge. Im sure I'll be happy with it. It's an outstanding value.

[@jeankellner4314]

Thank you, I am going to take the plunge, too. I love the tin and some of the colors I haven't seen yet like peacock blue, Chinese red, two tones of turquoise, and two tones of the Naples yellow, plus the red ochre color would be great for when I try to paint the red rock structures here in southern Utah and Nevada where I live!

[@DebadooCreates]

Thanks so much. It gets so confusing especially when a 36 pan & a 48 pan from the "same" name, aren't the same paints.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

It really is! It happens a lot but often the palette is a different style so it's easy to tell. When they both come in tins it's hard to know what's what.

[@windywednesday4166]

Gosh, that's a nice set... I really love all those yellows. I'm learning to mix, so I think that's a great set... (not $40 great), but I'm guessing it would be a good set if you wanted to do mixing and change the shade of your greens.

[@jimflack9462]

Thank you for this review. Guess my Doodle Hog set of 36 was a good purchase. Yay! I am done buying watercolors. Except maybe more I Inktense w/c pencils. Love those things!!! 😄

[@thefrugalcrafter]

You did good!

[@janbrad1]

you are the paint whisperer! I have the fan palette and love it. I just ordered the Artsy 24 palette - there was a $3 off coupon today. My excuse THIS time - Christmas cards!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Enjoy!

[@leonnehaaijman4709]

I prefer to use tubes, but there's something so sexy about a set of pans, especially when they're wrapped individually. I never want to take the wrappers off :D

[@mickieriley2490]

It is so fascinating. I don't do much in watercolors. I find the rebranding so interesting. I do tend to stick to brands I know. With an occasional bargain brand......well sometimes.

[@beckywebster90]

I have the white nights 48 set. It's pallet form and the one I take with me. The rest are all tube (DS, Graham, sennelier, qor, etc). I don't know if I'll buy a budget set, but I love your reviews. They will help when/if that time ever comes. Tell me, do you regret buying the Brut 520? I didn't buy it. I just feel I have plenty of budget pencils (including a 160 set round bruts). It's just that I can think of so many other art supplies I could buy with the $120

[@starshinesoldier]

I think the 520 pencils were sent to her via the seller for review?

[@cassiescreations9828]

She did not buy those, they were sent to her.

[@beckywebster90]

Oh..yes that makes sense. Unfortunately no one sends me anything to review(lol)...and I have a very tiny art space. Would love to have that basement set up she has :)

[@starshinesoldier]

@@beckywebster90 Hahah, same. That would be so cool~! I too would love to be accomplished enough someday that company’s seek me out for product reviews. (Pipe dream, I’m not a professional artist. 🤣🤣🤣) Her reviews are always so detailed and so helpful. I hope companies keep sending her stuff. 😜 she feeds my want monster but also keeps me from buying duds.

[@lindsayjayne2169]

That odd transparent version of (PG17) Oxide Green that they call "hookers green brilliant" is also in a couple of the Paul Rubens sets that I have, and it's named the exact same thing- "hookers green brilliant". So that's interesting. These video's of yours are always so helpful, thankyou Lindsay! I've been trying to find information on companies that do this private labeling, but for watercolor paper + brushes, to see if they're worth it. Specifically the ones made from "Wonder Forest". Any ideas on that topic?

[@justacatwhocantype]

I think the reason for similarities is because they (Superior) really tried to copy Paul Rubens. It's not just color names, but also the thing with the cloth, and chipboard box, and so on, and even the paper labels on the pans are a faint reminder.

[@gailrodgers3079]

Your topic tonight is pertinent about what I am about to say as these companies keep putting out the same stuff for people too rebuy over and over. Ever since you unboxed your Brutfunder colored pencils I have been curious about them. The other night I checked them out on Amazon and then checked on some of their smaller sets. This might be all old news to you, but when I was looking at reviews on their 180 set the reviewer said that Soucolor 180 were the exact same pencils. I started comparing pictures and for the Brutfunder 180 pencils only one pencil was showing its name and number and that was a green. I spent some time checking things out and these sets are the very same: Soucolor 180, Kalour 180, Shuttle Art 180, Riancy 180 and CCfoud both of the last two have Brutfunder printed right on the pencil s that they were showing in their listing. That means currently Amazon is selling 6 different colored pencil sets are all identical!!!! I discover that Brutfunder 160 is the same as South Sun 160. Also Soucolor 160 (which I have here at home) is the same as Color More 160 and Cool Back 160. I haven't done any detecting on the watercolors except for 3 sets are totally identical which I discovered when I swatched them all on the same paper to see which set was the best and they were all the same and I liked them all. Hope some of this is helpful to you and your viewers.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

And to further complicate things companies will use different factories for different sizes sets. The brutfuner squares, black barreland color barrel pencils are all different from each other. The doodle hog 36 and 47 sets are different forom eavh other, same with art n Fly watercolors. It's a crap shoot 😆

[@Angela-rj4dm]

Soo sad I bought them and were soo excited!!! They haven't arrived yet to Canada... by the time I got to Amazon the other 24 set was sold out. So I took the leap and bought these. Womp womp

[@MsKambul53]

Lady, I love your swatching.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Thanks!

[@pinkflamingo5628]

This was a fun video! Thanks! Question please: How would you compare these to the Gotideal or Pretty Execellent sets? Thanks Lindsay! ☺️🌺 Edit: what about combining all of those that match? That would make a great palette!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

I think they are comparable to pretty excellent but these larger sets have a couple more opaque colors. I haven't tried gotideal.

[@pinkflamingo5628]

@@thefrugalcrafter thank you! I have to say I originally bought the Gotideal set because I liked the palette but then they were fun to paint with. Lightfastness is questionable so for sketchbooks, etc but again, the “cheap” watercolors seem to be vying for lowest $$$. Just checked Amazon and Pretty Excellent is $18.99 and Gotideal is $13.99 plus a $2 off coupon! When sets go for so little I buy them and give to family and friends who are interested or who teach so they can spread the love of art.

[@maremagoo8140]

So! Inquiring minds want to know =) How would you compare quality of paint (not price) of the Pretty Excellent set to the Doodle Hog 36 set? Which would you prefer! And thank you Lindsey, truly, for this invaluable service you provide.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

I think the pretty excellent are more clean and transparent. I don't think there are any mixes with white so for me is go for the PE but you get a nicer tin and pand with the doodlehog for less money. Both are a good value.

[@lilyjonathan2715]

Hi Lindsay, would you recommend Art whale or Paul Rubens better please? My want monster says buy both, but I know I shouldn't 😅😂. Thanks

[@thefrugalcrafter]

For pans, Paul rubens.

[@tracyvis2101]

I have the master's touch. They were my first watercolors. I asked for Van Gogh watercolors for Christmas and when my mom couldn't find them in any of the locals stores she bought me master's touch! lol She had no idea they were different. I was tempted by the price of the doodle hog but if they are the same as master's touch I won't bother. Thanks!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

The 48 set of doodlehog are the same as masters touch but the 36 set of doodlehog are awesome for the price. They are like altenew, art whale and artsy (superior made) and the doodlehog 36 has no smell but the masters touch does and the 48 does.

[@Skinnychelle48]

Just ordered this one too, will arrive tomorrow!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Enjoy!

[@melissamatheny]

I shouldve ordered them awhile ago. Just went to Amazon and there is none listed for Artwhale.

[@thecraftyrn]

I ordered the Arsty 24 set today. Hope they get here soon! I was able to get it for $15.00 before tax!

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Sweet!

[@alexacdjr]

I know you said you think superior makes this paint but its not paul rubens equivalent but I recently purchased the paul rubens transparent artist watercolor set and the pigments match, the names even down to the number system matches. This is what I get for missing this review! I've learned my lesson. Lol 😆

[@thefrugalcrafter]

These are not The same paintvpad what is in my Paul rubens artist grade set. They might have copied the numbers and names to fool consumers tho.

[@alexacdjr]

@@thefrugalcrafter thank you for replying because I was really kind of upset when I was looking at all the pigments matching up and thinking I just bought the same paint. Thank you thank you. 😊

[@c8Lorraine1]

Yes you definitely save me money for sure. I love your videos

[@mariaglassman4832]

I like the Art n Fly 72..hv only 48 both in Artistro & Kuretake 🤩

[@amyx231]

Everything you recommend sells a lot of.

[@radicalaboutjesusministrie9507]

Unfortunately, Amazon now says these paints are unavailable and they don't know when or if they will be available again. That's sad news because these sound great.

[@sandyhatten111]

Lindsay, thank you for this review . Have you used the art whale 100% cotton paper?

[@thefrugalcrafter]

No, I haven't

[@師太滅絕]

This looks like some of the paint made in China. If so, they tends to be vibrant, but a major setback is time lasting factors. Many faded after 2-3 years (and i had a difficult time previously as i sold a few paintings, just to receive complaints a few years down the road.....)

[@watercolourartincapetown2919]

Lindsay’s Frugal Detective hunts on Amazon strikes on a manufacturing secret. 🕵🏼‍♀️🕵🏼‍♀️ So interesting that the Artsy paints are the same as these. It reminds me of back when you caught on to the mungyo sets being the same as some of the Jane Davenport and the prima marketing sets like Pastel dreams etc 👩🏼‍🎨🕵🏼‍♀️🕵🏼‍♀️🕵🏼‍♀️

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Mungyo is one of the oldest manufacturer to private label. They have made most if the better Sargent art products since the 90s. Their pastel products are great and for flowy techniques they watercolors are also nice. They make most if the craft brand watercolors like prima, american crafts and studio light (probably i Others too!)

[@AridescentArt]

Great vid. Thanks for the review!

[@firechick561]

I really like the Doodle hog 36...plus I needed a couple of empty pallets for paint in full pans)...and the Doodle Hog 36 was just on sale for $9.99 ( Cyber Monday- 11/29/21) 😃😃😃

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Wow! I would have bought another too!

[@theresapalmer7892]

I got this set too, trying to decide if I'm gonna keep them now. I just got the Rosa set last month. So I think a return of art whale us the smart, frugal move.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

That's why I wanted to get this video up asap because a lot of people bought them and I want them to know 8f they have the other same sets.

[@theresapalmer7892]

@@thefrugalcrafter the rosa is made in Europe, so its not by superior? They seem much nicer than the pagos i got. I'm done getting paints now until I use some up. I'm also a stamper at heart trying to expand watercolor into my cards.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

@@theresapalmer7892 rosa is definitely not superior 😆 they are totally different, much nicer and a diffetent pan texture.

[@justacatwhocantype]

Maybe it's just the way you swatched them (maybe different paper?) but the tubes really made a better impression on me - I would get those if I had to choose. BUT since I just threw out some watercolors this morning because they decided to grow mold, inspite of being stored in a dry place (the Arteza watercolors... apparently I am not the first person to experience this, as I remembr another viewer of yours saying that she had this issue) I am done trying budgt watercolors for a while, lol. Now I really hope that they did not infect any of my other paints via using the same brush on them. Most of the mold is kind of on the sides, kinda hidden by the pan inself, so it may have been there for a couple of days without me noticing. I really hope that I didn't jinx myself by complaining that I had accumulate too much stuff, lol.

[@thefrugalcrafter]

Was it the tube or pan paint? I had to add a lot of glycerin to my arteza tubes to get them not to crack. I use them from the tubes now if i need to.

[@justacatwhocantype]

@@thefrugalcrafter It was the pan paint, and a few months ago I talked to a person in the comments who had a similar issue with her Arteza paints. Guess the formula (which always kind of felt like a bar of soap to me...) is a good breeding ground. Well, overall I at least have to say that thank goodness it's those paints - they're the ones that I have the easiest time letting go. I guess I could have probably even saved them, just taking them out of the pans and cleaning them off, but I am extremely worried about spores being spread to my other paints, so I think it's safer to just get rid of them. I don't actually know how realistic that fear even is, but if I find mold in my working palette I will definitely start to cry, lol.

[@cathygreen3771]

Bummer! These are out of stock as well! I hope they get the tubes in again. Or these. I was concerned to buy as I couldn’t find any reviews. And now they are gone. Lol