PAKISTANI OR INDIAN? SOUTH ASIAN ANCESTRY Life of Janice and Malik - Professional Genealogist Reacts

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[@Elke_KB]

The audio on their video was bad, but I played it back and she said "Just kidding". I enjoyed this!

[@MrAhmed-dx5hw]

So great of you to call it South Asian. The British used to called the entire region "India" which is so historically incorrect, and some people still use this term.

[@JNatt]

I watched this video a few days ago, and I thought “I wonder if GeneaVlogger will review this.” 😂

[@thegenealogyshow7006]

We loved the video! And we can't wait to see some of you at The Genealogy Show 2021😃

[@Chaotic_Pixie]

Fun fact: I have a French surname but I identify with my German-American heritage. My dad’s family all came from Germany. Political boundaries are fluid over time. Cultural heritage is what matters most for many when it comes to how they identify. I’m an American with strong German heritage. I also LOVE that he was like, “don’t call me an American” because I legit don’t get this push to call Americans, USians when we legitimately are the only country with America in the name.

[@Bridge_2702]

The region where his mother is from is literally Central India, NOT *nOrtH cEntrAL.* I cringe so hard when people use these wrong labels. People from actual GEOGRAPHIC North _(above Delhi states&UTs)_ consider UP, bihaar, MP(where he's from) as Middle India, basically the gangetic plains. Dude so weirdly wants northern indian for some reason in his results. Harayana-Himachal were also part of original Punjab btw, the partition map shown was kinda wrong.

[@unn5443]

Parts of UP are 100+ km north to Delhi, especially Western UP is contiguous to Haryana and Punjab.

[@HoneyLee-r3q]

Exactly.

[@dannyduds1058]

You know he was going to be 100% indian with those hand gestures

[@devilishworld4259]

Totally! 😁😁😁! But he is still fighting his personal demons. 🥳🥳🥳!

[@ruthking7884]

I just got my DNA results back from ancestry on Thursday and my 90 year old mom's results the day after...so cool.

[@JaskoonerSingh]

He is ethnically Punjabi and that state was split between India and Pakistan.

[@harisadu8998]

He pretends like Pakistani is an ethnicity though hahaha.

[@Bridge_2702]

@@harisadu8998 yeah, the cringe was real. Even in a goddamn DNA video, he brings a silly political arrogance to it.

[@harisadu8998]

@@Bridge_2702 He's a Pakistani, what can he do? The entire country was made because they wanted to be like this.

[@riponff4656]

​@@harisadu8998they thought they are different from Indian 😂😂

[@ItzIndianKrisp]

Pakistanis are not Indian. But rather a mix of Iranian and Indian

[@pds2621]

Wrong

[@kingknights5107]

100% Indian..

[@zitka123]

​@@kingknights5107no

[@tomcat4321]

This Pakistani guy looks like someone from central part of India or Bihar.

[@kingknights5107]

They all do..

[@ESPollard87]

She was joking about the British

[@GeneaVlogger]

Ohhhhh! Right over my head! 😂

[@keriezy]

Yep! I almost missed it, it was right after she says, "are you scared?"

[@spartan.falbion2761]

Wrong mic, overdriven, girlfriend who is irrelevant to the video is shrieking. Awful, this is torture to listen to. Pakistan didn't exist 80 years ago, and my Pakistan says the differences are really superficial.

[@bengaming5066]

I have seen people from Pakistan and India who are 12-20 % European and 60-70% South Asians also with some mixture of West Asians. Please react to more videos from South Asia like this. Irish , Scottish and Welish ancestry thing is true for alot of people because of British rule. I had someone in my family who was a redhead and with light eyes , actually many people have and had lighter eyes and pale skin tone in my family. Loved it ! Keep making more videos on South Asia.

[@fzlc7425]

It's indo aryan blood Not British rule

[@fzlc7425]

Lol Pastun are scythican

[@defenderofjustice3435]

Pakistanis are not related to Indians. They are a mix of Persian, and Afghan

[@harisadu8998]

The European DNA is ONLY from MyHeritageDNA and AncestryDNA. Not 23andme. Indians have very little mixing even though there was colonialism. That's what actual DNA testing shows for about 1000 years, not much mixing.

[@harisadu8998]

@@defenderofjustice3435 🤡

[@MrAhmed-dx5hw]

I feel like the second results are further divisions of the first one.

[@MuriKakari]

I have a bunch of your videos queued up on my KZbin to watch list. Every time one of your videos go up, I go through another generation of ancestry hints. Thanks!

[@blueyedove]

I use My Heritage to track my tree, eventually I do wish to do a DNA test as I do have a Biological parent that is unknown. I am very into about getting as much info as I can, to the point that I have over 1800 people added to my tree so far and more to add. Any suggestions for when i come to a wall on info due to lack of subscriptions? (costs a lot)

[@GeneaVlogger]

Upload to as many DNA databases to get the most genetic matches. You can also look into getting a Search Angel once you DNA test, someone who will volunteer to help you do the genetic genealogy. I suggest www.SearchAngels.org

[@anitakay8634]

Your comments seem very superficial, for a professional genealogist, especially about South Asian history. Firstly, I want to note that there is no such thing as "Pakistani" DNA- I wish you would comment on that. Pakistan is a political concept that's about a century old, definitely not old enough to develop distinctive genetic markers. Same would apply if you're talking about "India" as the political entity rather than "India" as the ethno-cultural region roughly encompassed by the subcontinent. Secondly, British _genetic_ legacy in India is exceedingly rare. It sounds like Janice here was just messing with Malik. India was ruled by relatively few British administrators on the ground. Administration was largely done through local princely states and other lower-tier native administrators. Also, most of the people who _have_ British ancestry are aware of it. They are known as Anglo Indians and are usually Christians. This makes them ineligible to marry Muslims on religious grounds, and they would be considered impure for high caste Hindus, for whom caste pedigree is extremely important. There were also laws that prohibited miscegenation following the sepoy mutiny of 1857.

[@zeebee8185]

India is named after the east indian company u clown, india and its cognates are all derived from the sindhu river in pakistan.

[@zeebee8185]

Mofos are named after pakistans river u r a ganagdeshi the people of the ganga

[@Njoofene]

That is not true! Most Indian/Pakistanis are heavily mixed with European and Middle Easterns.

[@finlaymacintyre8161]

The instant hair cut was a surprise

[@WhackaWhacka]

All those "meditarians" were killing me.

[@grahamparks1645]

Mediterranean- ooof

[@maneeshachaturvedi608]

The Pakistani Canadiadian national needs to accept that Pakistan was formed out of British India, why take offense if you are termed as a person having ethnic Indian roots. He has ethnic Punjabi roots, right! It just like a Bangladeshi UK citizen who is an ethnic Indian Bengal because Bangladesh won independence from Pakistan in 1971. East Pakistan(East Bengal, province of Brithish) ,which was a part of India before 1947. Thus a Banglashi UK national is also an ethnic Bengali Indian. The poltical identity of all 3,Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are all different. As regards this fellow here, he is Canadian, that's all. Ethnicity is not always the same as the nationality of self or parents.

[@NostalgiaforInfinity]

It was created out of India, not "British India". India/Bharat has been around as a civilizational state for millennia.

[@yooaab]

​@@NostalgiaforInfinityNope. Both India as Pakistan was created out of British Raj, both nations are 75 years old.

[@iwanttobelieve5970]

We are all related essentially.

[@iwanttobelieve5970]

Aren't Pakistani and Indians the same thing? Because it was all India but the English separated the regions and Pakistan became its own country.

[@AKMarch01]

Nope!

[@kkkim5567]

You should do some research. Because you have idea about history. These countries are enemies since day one. Religion is different, customs and traditions is different

[@dhruvseoni8418]

Genetically/Historically more similar than not, but 70 years of political separation and enmity breeds changes

[@defenderofjustice3435]

Aren't English and French people the same thing? 🤣

[@defenderofjustice3435]

So by your logic, the Kazakhs and Russians are the same people cause Kazakhstan was a part of the Russian empires for so many generations.

[@pds2621]

India did not just have people who are Hindus/Sikhs/Christians/Jains etc, they had Muslims who did not want to go to Pakistan. But Pakistan was/is an Islamic nation with very few ogre religion people. They have forcefully converted most.

[@MrAhmed-dx5hw]

That is the most uneducated and racist comment I've read today.

[@habib080]

there's also a large migration of Afghan/pashtun and other central asians into pakistan and less into india. Interesting.

[@Dreamzzgirl]

There was no Pakistan back in the day. Half of Pakistan belonged once to Afghanistan before it became part of British India and eventually became Pakistan. It has nothing necessary to do with Afghan or Pashtun migration. The provinces from the border of Afghanistan all the way up to Peshawer have culturally, linguistically and geographically always belonged to Pashtuns over history.

[@anonymouslyopinionated656]

@@Dreamzzgirl not really.. east of the khyber pass... aka peshawar etc has been part of the indic world.. since ghori/ghazni, there was a lot of migration of pakshtun dna into the region... just because the area was ruled by Kabul based powers for a while (so was punjab... even delhi), doesn't make it "always" pashtun.

[@Bridge_2702]

Afghanistan is also South Asia

[@estarat]

My dear friend migration did not start in 1947. Hahaha. Genealogy goes back far back.

[@kkkim5567]

Bro no one is ethnic Indian. India has 100+ ethnicities. India is the name of subcontinent and region. Thank you.

[@Allinall-Travel-Day-To-Day-Lyf]

All are ethnic Bharatiya

[@arunsalwan8558]

Gandhi was called mahatma also he should mention that more than a million died during the partition ..lastly india wasn’t created as a Hindu country .it was a secular nation .that’s the current debate of some more radical people who feel like they got screwed at partition

[@NostalgiaforInfinity]

There's nothing "radical" about it. India was always a Hindu Rashtra and hence should officially be one. Your precious little "secularism" exists in India because WE allow it to, because Indians/Dharmics are inherently secular.

[@mauricefricke6236]

I have a question: I'm from Germany, my father is German and my mother is Romanian. My Ancestry results showed this: 51%German, 24%Balkan, 8%Eastern Europe and Russia, 8%English, 5%Swedish, 2%Welsh, 2%Norwegian. My father is very German so the high German percentage and the British and Scandinavian percentages do not surprise me. However I'm a bit confused about the Balkan part since it shows Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia to be the main regions (highlighted in light green color whereas Romania and Bulgaria are highlighted in a slightly darker green). I know there has been a lot of movement and intermingling in the Balkan region but it's a bit odd since my mother doesn't know anything about ancestors from that region. What do you think?

[@willrichardson519]

What about cousin matches?

[@koobie83]

Is Romania one of those countries that borders the balkans and has had a shared history with them in some way? Eastern Europe markers in these DNA tests largely picks up the Slavic DNA, but Romania is further south and has an orthodox religion history so it’s quite possible it picks up Balkan DNA too. It’s probably because there’s not enough data for Romanians to be able to pick up Romanian independently from Eastern Europe and the Balkans. I also get a lot of Balkan DNA and the nearest country I have known ancestry from is Germany 😂

[@mattpotter8725]

@@koobie83 Romania is sandwiched between many Slavic nations. It may be South, or maybe South West of Russia and Ukraine, but it is North of Bulgaria, which in turn is East of more Slavic countries like North Macedonia and Serbia, and Poland is also North of Romania. I think Hungary, another isolate (at least in terms of language, I'm sure people from here will have mixed with other populations in this area) is to the west of Romania, in fact the western part of Romania, Transylvania was part of Austria-Hungary up until the first World War I think. As for the results 8% English and what was it 2% Welsh is hard to believe that this is a mis-read, the fact that this comes up and the original commenter doesn't know where it came from suggests to me that it might have gone from a single ancestor, though that is just a guess. The other areas I think are just that the testing company doesn't have enough Central and Eastern European coverage yet to be able to distinguish between the populations and these regions mixed quite a lot throughout history. These Ethnicity Estimates are only estimates, it usually gives you a minimum and maximum possibility for each region so I'd check that out first, and the other point is that you only can really know is by using the matches to build your own tree and link up distant cousins that confirm common ancestors. These Ethnicity Estimates are really just a gimmick.

[@mattpotter8725]

You should have your side view results now, which splits your estimates by parent (not that it can tell you which parent is which). I'd love to know if this has made things clearer. I suspect from what you said, and you are quite right that one side may be 100% German, your father, although I have read that there were German settlements in Romania, in the Transylvanian region of I remember correctly, and since you have 51% German this suggests that your mum has some German in her as well, and if the British and Scandinavian is on your dad's side then that would suggest that 17% of the 50% of the DNA you got from him isn't German and so 18% of your mum's DNA is German as well. As for your confusion about three Balkan part I think it's just that it includes Romania in this region with Bulgaria, which you say is highlighted dark green, which suggests to me it means Bulgaria. I would also hope that in the Communities that Ancestry has it is a bit more localised to Romania, or parts of Romania where your mum is from. Would love an update. Also I'm sure your percentages have been updated since this video and comment were posted. I'm British, but my initial test made me think on the Sidebar results that Parent 1 was my mum, because my granddad is from Ireland, but in fact I got it the wrong way round and my dad has a lot of Irish ancestry too, some we knew about but haven't found back in Ireland yet, but he seems to have a lot more than expected, and more than I inherited from my maternal grandpa. The communities are the giveaway though.

[@Sebstersoul]

I’m pretty sure she was just kidding .. and they cut out the explanation while editing !

[@21_f_aus]

Quite interesting, loved the little history lesson he gave in the video... The sound defo wasn't great in that video, which is a shame, but it happens sometimes...

[@codmonster1493]

the first results were just a joke. she later told him.

[@RememberMeYeah]

When she was saying the first results, Indian, Sub-Saharan, etc remember she wasn’t showing him the computer screen? She was pulling his leg. Then they started to laugh and then she showed the real results on the screen.

[@stevenmillsap5713]

Hello sir. I had a question for you. I'm wanting to do my Y-DNA test. Family Tree DNA is the only one I saw on the major testing companies. 2 part question I guess. 1) should I use the FTDNA or is there a different one you prefer. 2) which one should I get the 37, 111, or 700 and what's the difference in what you receive?

[@GeneaVlogger]

If you are looking for matches through Y-DNA, then FTDNA is your best route. Which test you choose depends on how in-depth you want the information. Each test is just testing more STR markers, which helps give a clearer picture of how closely related you are to the other matches. Once you get into SNP testing, that is when you can get into the phylogenetic tree and very in-depth information. At that point, I would suggest a Whole Genome Sequencing test, which I talk about in this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6W3pZ14iax5ocU

[@rudiannwildgoose-laing4629]

Janice sounds like an islander in the Caribbean. Oh I noticed at the end of their video a Jamaican flag🇯🇲

[@joshuafortune4420]

For some reason I can't find their KZbin channel

[@GeneaVlogger]

I remember hearing at some point that they broke up and deleted their entire channel.

[@salampakistan3691]

Pakistanis generally know their ancestry without dna test because tribalism awareness is good in pakistan and we know ancestry through our surnames, like Khans (usually title given to rulers as well as pushtoons/pathans), Mirza (Mughals empire which mixed with mongolian/persian/afghani or turkmen), Butt (Kashmiri/potwari). Raja are associated with rich indian muslim heritage etc, Jaffrey or Bukhari associated mostly shia persian or central asia etc. She initially joked about his dna results to dissect how is really feels about blacks and white dna from his initial reaction, she did psychological game with him. He did not really have white irish etc or black. You even are associated with particular occupations associated with you name. I have a Khan name from Father side but Raja grandmother (dads mum) and Mirza from my mothers side. If we pakistani do have european dna matches most likely common ancestry that was 1000s years back, with indo european migration with the Aryans from Pontic Steppes of Russian. Hatites from the same Pontic Steppes went to Anotalia (greece and turkey) into europe to make the modern Europeans. I noticed allot of R1A1 group that is in pakistan also found in Poland.

[@jimiwhat79]

Not enough people from India or Pakistan tested their dna, my wife being South Indian so are her parents en grandparents and so on but she still got 59 % northern Indian Punjabi . Which does not make sense at all.

[@iamlinda100]

or it could easily be that her family were originally from the North and gradually migrated to south India over time, or some of her relatives had mixed with people from Northern India. If she's 59% Northern Indian then there was definitely some mixing involved through her family lineage.

[@jimiwhat79]

@@iamlinda100 she is a catholic (have Portugese last names) her family has been in a few coastal villages for hundreds of years this can all be traced in church books. Sure it can be that a thousand years ago they came down from the north. What her dna story tells is that they came down in the 1940ties. The regions ancestry dna says she is from are huge Punjabi is not the whole of north India and Pakistan, they do not have enough data to tell her anything except 100% Indian. But she connected with a 3rth or 4th cousin who had the same problem. All others dna cousins were mixed with European and lived mostly in the US and UK.

[@karentucker2161]

Someone did some moving around in the family backnin the day soo.....

[@booksanimeenthusiast3802]

@@jimiwhat79 Portuguese surname must be because of colonisation of Goa (indian state) in western southern india.

[@jimiwhat79]

@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 yes

[@Megan-mm8hi]

I mean this in the best way possible, but your intro is 100% Kermit the frog

[@hhheidi1121]

That’s a good . He is so uptight about his where is from . 😂😂😂

[@kathrynsamuelson1983]

The British East India Company early on encouraged the male employees were encouraged to marry Indian women. They discouraged it later on.

[@VSM101]

funny since I know indian men with white mistresses for example Jawal Nehru so its wasn't one sided

[@shanealarcon7928]

Iam Half Indian my slelf live in Belize 🇧🇿

[@Schneewittchen3663]

My test said I'm 39.7% French but couldn't detect enough evidence of recent ancestry so there was no locations posted and that really confused me.

[@user-gw9zh1it4b]

When do you think ancestry and 23andme will update there ancestry regions

[@tainati4462]

23 and me sucks... I've done 2 other DNA tests. The other 2 I have done were the same results. 23 and me was way off.

[@EJJohnson-cj4qn]

What were the other two companies that you tested at and like better?

[@Blessings.429]

Another good one

[@MercyAlwyz23]

Most non-Africans branched out of L3. HeLa cells are L3 (she was of the African line where most non-Africans mutated from).

[@tstanmoysamanta]

Pakistan is a 75 year old Country... Before it was India🇮🇳....

[@yooaab]

India is 75 years old as well. Wrong, it was British Raj, he explained it in the video.🇵🇰

[@muzairanwar]

Hindutva much?

[@destyon9966]

The audio was horrible

[@goodhuman5036]

This confirms that your ancestors were Hindus who were forcibly converted to Islam by Mughals and turks

[@yooaab]

And your hindu ancestor worshipped dravidian gods.

[@rupendra79]

Pakistan was created, while Republic of India gained freedom & partitioned in 1947. Pakistan name was coined in 1930s. India has been there for centuries. British ruled 190yrs. so a small dot in long Indian history. If he identifies with PK, that's fine but don't put your manipulated/half-backed history on YT.

[@user-gw9zh1it4b]

Also close but its 3.125% not 3.175

[@horse6412]

I love how how myheritage merges Indian/Pakistani, Japanese/Korean, Chinese/Vietnamese, Spanish/Portuguese, French/German, and Armenian/Iranian together. So stupid. These are very different cultures and races. somehow it differentiates Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Ethiopian, and Mizrahi Jews. So wtf

[@harisadu8998]

What's wrong with merging Indian and Pakistani. Your comment itself shows ignorance here.

[@riponff4656]

As if your are european 😂😂

[@Erica-lz7mr]

Is there anywhere we could message you to ask a question?

[@GeneaVlogger]

Because I have such limited time, I usually only answer questions that are comments on my channel. I can't get to all of them but that way, when I am able to answer a question it may be useful to others with similar questions.

[@Erica-lz7mr]

@@GeneaVlogger Thank you. If you get to this. I had a question about matches. Full sibling matches vs half sibling matches regarding percentage shared DNA and cMs. Can a full sibling match only have 26% shared DNA and 1789cM in common?

[@GeneaVlogger]

Yes, it seems that a full sibling can share between 1613cM to 3488cM, according to the most recent version of the Shared cM Project by Blaine Bettinger - dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4. While it is possible, it is extremely uncommon at well under 1% probability.

[@GeneaVlogger]

The much higher likelihood is that they are half-siblings, who share on average 1759cM. To determine it you would need to compare both siblings to known relatives from each parent. If both siblings are matching each relative at the expected amount, then they are likely full siblings. If one sibling is not matching some of the relatives at the expected amount, especially if one sibling doesn't match certain relatives at all, then the two are likely half-siblings and the relatives that aren't matching the one sibling would indicate which parent is not the biological parent.

[@Erica-lz7mr]

@@GeneaVlogger Thank you. Then I believe my brother and I uncovered a family secret by doing the ancestry DNA test. We were wondering why it said close relative-1st cousin instead of sibling on there.

[@fleshen]

Mediterranean could have come from Alexander The Great's troops?

[@shehran6936]

South Asians don't use family trees, there's no kept records and genealogy isn't an important part of the culture in that region. But a lot of us like to know because there is so much ambiguity

[@ItzIndianKrisp]

Pakistanis should not be integrated with Indians.

[@defenderofjustice3435]

You are saying "South Asians" as if they are some sort of ethnicity.

[@berhoom2024]

In a broad sense it is according to these DNA tests

[@harisadu8998]

This is not true. Indians can find their entire family trees through bahi khatas kept very carefully in Haridwar. Indian Hindus particularly.

[@VSM101]

Indias have detaild family trees lol recoreded.

[@peggymattie5191]

What do you think of CRI GENETICS? Yes or No.

[@anneheffner6389]

I asked, Jarrett the same question and never received an answer. I believe Jarrett is overwhelmed with his work load. I would love to know the answer to CRI Genetics, as well.

[@GeneaVlogger]

I have not personally tested with them and have no interest, especially because they don't have a genetic matching feature, which is the main interest of mine when it comes to DNA testing. Family History Fanatics did a review of CRI and gives a good in-depth look at the website - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnbahJmjfbmDY7M

[@anneheffner6389]

@@GeneaVlogger Oh wow, how kind of you to respond! Thank you for the information and the link. I appreciate your time :)

[@peggymattie5191]

@@GeneaVlogger Thank you for this information. Much appreciated.

[@MercyAlwyz23]

So are Pakistani people just people who broke from India?! I haven’t finished watching this but I never knew this history.

[@kugul1683]

Pakistan, India and Bangladesh were all part of the British empire. After independence, there were religious tensions, which caused them to divide the country up into India & Pakistan, so both groups could have their own country. There was a mass migration of Muslims in India vice versa. (later, East Pakistan broke off to become Bangladesh)

[@yureituesday]

@@kugul1683 thank you that was so detailed

[@grahamparks1645]

Yes and no there is Persian/ Pashtun admixture as well as British

[@MercyAlwyz23]

@@kugul1683 thank you very much!

[@anonymouslyopinionated656]

All those regions are part of the civilizational/cultural zone of the Indian subcontinent... which is different from the modern political entity. The British controlled most of the subcontinent. in the lead up to independence, there were sectarian and political tensions, which led to separate political entities being formed. Ostensibly on religious lines, the areas with high muslim population % on the East and West of the subcontinent became Pakistan, and there were massive population exchanges with millions of Muslims from all over the subcontinent migrating to those muslim majority areas, and many non-muslims from those areas leaving.

[@HoneyLee-r3q]

Many Sri Lankans are from India so I am not surprised. One has to know some history in order to be great at genealogy.

[@LindaSchreiber]

His initial history is spot-on. It will be fun to hear the rest!

[@sunilshegdeable]

Wrong, Jinnah created Pakistan, as he wanted a Muslim state and he can head it. Though he was an English man from top to bottom, did not practice any Muslim ideology nor practiced it. Gandhi was a man of the people. He never wanted partition. More than 2mill were slaughtered, more than 20 mill were dispalced. It was one of the biggest mistakes done by the British. There are still more Muslims in India than in Pakistan.

[@Bridge_2702]

He doesn't really know his history well though. It might seem interesting from a foreigner perspective, but he was wrong. That's very typical of candian/amercian immigrant born people. He doesn't even know that his mom's region is central India, not nOrtH cEntrAL what he was calling it again & again.

[@lavernewarren4310]

My Ancestry and My Heritage shows that I have a small percentage of Indian/Pakistanian and middle eastern ancestry.

[@ItzIndianKrisp]

Indian/Pakistanian? 😂

[@VSM101]

Pakistani isnt an ethicity lol it didnt exist before partition while India did

[@MundaneBrain]

​@@VSM101 Pakistan is the successor state to the IVC. India is not. Deal with this reality. We exist on the land of the IVC. You do not. Out DNA taken as a whole is closer genealogically to Harappan genome. Yours is diluted by multiple other genomes because our ancestors moved from the IVC and into lands east of the Indus (I.e. what you know as the nation state of "India").

[@MundaneBrain]

​​@@VSM101India before "partition" was a geographical expression, referring originally to the IVC, and was a term coined and used by Greeks such as Herodotus and Alexander (aka Hind by Persians). Do you think they were talking about akhand Bharat when they spoke of "India"? Check their teachings. They referred only to the Indus Valley, which was Pakistani land, just known by a different name. The usage of "India" in Nehru's nation building exercise in 1947 was actually a misnomer. "India" was a stolen word, like what North Macedonia did with "Macedonia". Nehru's nation would be better referred to as Gangadesh. Be proud of Gangadesh, or Bharat if you prefer. Pakistan is the real successor of ancient India. You only think you're "Indian" because of Nehru's stolen terminology.

[@rubennaidoo3939]

All Pakistanis are Indians from India.

[@AKMarch01]

Nope!

[@waqas46652]

Nope!

[@x________08]

Yae

[@defenderofjustice3435]

So are all Kazakhs Russians from Russia? Stop being a bigot

[@harisadu8998]

@@defenderofjustice3435 Do you understand geography at all? It was the called the partition of india because INDIA was being partitioned, that makes all the pieces part of India.

[@palebluedot8862]

To his comments British Indian is not an ethnicity, he is still Indian. India has existed for 1000's of years. Also, he is so proud of his 70 year old Pakistani "heritage" yet he decided to dump his country and stay in Canada. Now he calls himself Candian Pakistani. I know it sounds like racist and mean but that is what the fact is. Pakistan is yet to find it's identify.

[@harisadu8998]

There are people who migrated to Pakistan and then migrated to the UK or Canada 15 years later and even though they lived in Canada or the UK longer and their ancestors lived in India for centuries and millennia, they somehow are Pakistani just because of those 15 years.

[@MundaneBrain]

Rubbish. Pakistan is the successor state of the IVC. Our identity is millenia old. It is the Republic of India that pretends it ever held sway over the IVC territories. IVC was not once controlled by a contiguous and independent Indian nation state. If you look at modern Pakistani DNA compared to modern Indian DNA, whom do you think has overall greater composition from an IVC source?? Do you think Indians or Pakistanis arise more from IVC. Our identity is very stable, thanks all the same for your concern. Nehru meanwhile forced together a whole bunch of disparate genomes into a so-called nation, the inevitable frictions of which we see play out every day in the stark reality of the modern Indian nation state. Look no further than Manipur and Mizoram in today's media to understand the genetic variance across your nation. In reality, India is a subcontinent made up of lots of city states, not a nation. You cannot agree with southies on the usage of Hindi and Sanskrit, never mind lay claim to a homogeneous "identity". Your claims regarding India are pure fantasy.

[@MundaneBrain]

The "India" of Herodotus and Alexander was actually the IVC and did NOT include land east of the Indus Valley. Pakistan is actually ancient India. It is an accident of nomenclature that Nehru took the name "India" for a nation that never held sway over the Indus Valley at any point in time as a contiguous and independent nation state. No different to what North Macedonia tried to do to the identity of true Macedonians, you folks came along later and decided to usurp our identity.

[@yooaab]

Indian is not an etnicity either. India is also 75 years old.

[@yooaab]

​@@MundaneBraintrue! Most people dont know this.

[@latchmansukhdeo4896]

Bro, I hope you understand that this is only for intertainment only. There is absolutely no real scientific reasoning behind this.

[@thehalalreviewer]

Oh God as an Italian it pains me to the core when he says “Mediterrean” a little part of me dies every time someone dies this. And no Mediterranean ancestry is NOT common for South Asians.

[@kalex888]

Agreed

[@khansahb-o4e]

Lol calm down.

[@harisabram4767]

There are virtually no videos of South Asians with this Mediterranean DNA nor this Greek DNA either. I know Italians do show African DNA and vice-versa but there is no connection with South Asia. However, I have seen 10-20% North/Western European DNA, I don't buy this British influence. We don't have any British ancestors.

[@harisadu8998]

@@harisabram4767 Only Myheritage dna and ancestry dna shows that nonsense. Real scientific testing shows that Indians have barely mixed for about 1000 years even with castes that are in the same village as them!

[@andreamessiasgomes7118]

​@@harisadu8998 rubbish you people talk , Indians are very much mixed lol. From ancient times they have been mixed. You people know nothing of your culture. Shame!

[@EightTobiins]

The records in South Asia are not great generally I think, my partner's grandparents are still alive but don't know their actual birthday, just the season and a guess for a year range

[@anaz5918]

One way to figure out their birth days is by looking at your parents birth certificate, many times most countries list the parents names and their ages at the time of your mom/dad birth .

[@aslamkhan8362]

The 5 % British and Irish is not from British as they hardly my mixed with local population its most likely from common steppe ancestry

[@zeenasworld]

She was just joking.

[@AkashAB4U]

I paused the video at the point when they were about to read the DND results and he was that he is 100% Pakistani. First and foremost, Pakistani is only a nationality and not a race/ethnicity. Pakistanis are Indians with a Pakistani nationality. I am Indian with Trinidadian nationality. Being born in Trinidad doesn't alter my genes to become something different from what my ancestors were, which is Indian. Let me give an example, take an orange (representing India), then part of the orange is cut away (representing Pakistan). The piece that was cut away, has it become an apple or is it still orange? In other words, typical/majority of Pakistanis have the same genetic make-up as the majority of Indians. That said, the girl was really annoying on reading the results, which caused my to lose interest in the video.

[@AKMarch01]

Indian is not an ethnicity either so Pakistanis are not just 'Indians with a Pakistani nationality'

[@zay_kash]

🤣this comment shows how uneducated you are Pakistani and Indians are different Pakistan only shares an ethnicity which only makes up 2% of India

[@khansahb-o4e]

Ugh, Indian nationalists really can't give it a rest.

[@kkkim5567]

Bro indian is not ethnicity either. Its a name of region and subcontinent. People are incredible diverse. Just Google punjabi, Rajasthani, kashmiri, tamil and mizoram people.

[@kkkim5567]

I have always noticed indians are always calling everything started from them or belongs to them. Iike people in India say all languages started from tamil. Like seriously what proof do you have.

[@Alisharif-z5p]

O-

[@johanruiz3422]

I us U Usenet’s

[@stolonationwarrior3783]

Just proves to me the bible..

[@Bridge_2702]

Wot

[@horse6412]

Pakistanis are not Indian but a mix of Iranian/ indian. Japanese are a mix of Korean and Jomon. Vietnamese are a mix of Chinese and Cambodian. Malays are a mix of Thai and Indonesian. Portuguese are a mix of Celtic and Spanish. Sicilians are a mix of Italian/arab/ and Greek. French people are a mix of Frankish, Celtic, and Iberian. They are NOT the same as one another!

[@devilishworld4259]

Mr. Intelligent, how do you classify the people of Philippines?

[@HoneyLee-r3q]

Blah, blah, blah.

[@horse6412]

@@devilishworld4259 Sorry I was having a manic episode when I wrote this. I probably will delete this comment

[@latchmansukhdeo4896]

Bro, I hope you understand that this is only for intertainment only. There is absolutely no real scientific reasoning behind this.