I Took 10 DNA Tests and Compared Them | Which One Should You Take?

[@UsefulCharts]

Which DNA test is best for African Americans? kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5CUpZqah8t7jqM

[@staffan144]

Perhaps it would be interesting for you to do DNA tests with some of the same companies again (but using another name?) and compare with their previous results!?

[@trentigalaxy]

Answer dis now

[@FishesAndLoaves997]

How do we Register the Kit ??

[@Raekwon941]

What about for black people that aren't American?

[@dalelane1948]

In the future, people will look back with disgust and wonder how these companies were allowed to take ownership (for the purposes of research or whatever they see fit to do with it) of another persons DNA and profit from it. They will be perplexed as to how people were fooled into paying for the privilege. This is the new colonialism.

[@rwandaforever6744]

I work in forensic genetics and do those analyses every day for unidentified bodies or kinship analysis for living people. Those companies are scamming people as you can see when you compare them. If they would use scientifically proven methods, the results would match exactly. This is why we are doing interlaboratory test with other facilities around the world all getting the same samples and the results have to match 100% to be certified doing this. There is some leeway when using Y-chromosomal DNA when interpreting the results, depending on if you are using STRs or STRs plus SNPs, but they should not contradict but rather be more specific. Same with mtDNA, if you sequenced the whole genome or just the D-Loop. Doing ancestral analysis with autosomal DNA is bogus. There are some alleles you will find more often in people from region A than from region B, but even if we are talking percentages of about 90% or 99%, will still give you a 10% or 1% error rate. If your database is 20 million people, that would be 2 million or 200000 false results. Do not let high percentages fool you. A paternity test usually gives you a 99.999999% match if you are the father using just around 20 DNA systems, as long as no close relatives are also possible contenders. 99% is not really saying anything. Even if you combine all the thousands of studies done for different ethnicities and their autosomal DNA alleles, you cannot use that data to say with some certainty that this person with those alleles is from that ethnic group, let alone splitting up this group and give you even more detailed information. The Viking score is, of course, also bogus. As are differences between France and Germany, Norway and Sweden and Denmark etc. You could also roll a dice and be happy with the results without paying money for someone telling you random stuff. Now, the only real way to get ancestry information in the way you want, going back generations, is mtDNA and y-chromosomal DNA. And for those, the results have to match because they should be all based on the revised Cambridge Reference Sequence (rCRS) and use the same databases (EMPOP, Mitomap, etc.) which use the same mutations to get to the mitochondrial haplogroups. If they do not give you your data (usually given as deviations from the rCRS) do not bother with them. That way you can just check their work for yourself using the same free databases. Same with Y-chromosomal DNA. We all use the YHRD database. If they do not give you your Y-STR profile, do not bother with them. Actually, they should always provide the data they used to get to the results, so you can check it. As you can see, there is no scientific reason the results should vary so much. Or any reason they should be able to get any ancestral results from autosomal DNA alone that would reliably work. All this "10% Roman, 71% Viking, 3% Inuit"-stuff is just made up. The underlying scientific data is used in a way it was never supposed to be used and thus any references to those articles just want to lull you into a false narrative. And don't get me started on those health related results... they use results, sometimes contradicting each other, from thousands of articles, lump them together and build their own "database" for certain ailments. Some are rather easy and only rely on one or two genes and are thus easy to predict and accurate. Others are under the influence of dozens or hundreds of genes, not yet fully understood. Some paper might tell you SNP AB in Gene X will get you a 70% chance of that disease, other tell you SNP CD in Gene Y will reduce your risk by 10-40% and SNP EF in Gene Z gets you a 20% chance. Not one study will have looked at those three combined, but the company algorithm will lump those chances together as if they were, despite them probably interacting and ignoring the other 84 from other publications and the 93 not yet discovered. But they give you a 50% chance of dying of a cardiac disease anyway. Yet, even 10% or 90% mean nothing in this context. As we could see, the rheumatoid arthritis was right (with a prevalence of 1-2% in the population), the insomnia was not (with a prevalence of up to 30% in the population it was a nice try). Except the few that have a distinct genetic pathway linked to a small number of polymorphisms, all others are just an elaborate guess. Genetic dispositions are often as accurate as horoscopes... Instead of paying good money to these companies, just pay a certified and accredited lab to analyse your DNA and use the free databases yourself to get the real results. They are not as flashy as those you get from them, but feel free to embellish them yourself. Use a dice or toss a coin to determine your Viking Score...it's about as accurate that way. Or just say you are 70% Icelandic Viking if that makes you feel better. But it would be nice, if you put your DNA in a public database so we can get your murderous uncle behind bars. He has always made you feel uneasy anyway and now you know why^^

[@11buleria]

I believe you.

[@BumboLooks]

it isn't a dice roll though..... some alleles are ONLY found in certain ethnicities..... So in some cases you wouldn't even be dealing with a percentage chance of error. Are you one of those mentally ill leftoid types?

[@mikeg1877]

Thank you for the thorough explanation!!! I was told by a genetic counselor that most DNA testing services are not accurate. I wanted to ask you a couple questions if you don't mind: 1. I live in the bay area, California. Is there a university or other type of genetic facility you could recommend 2. There's a lot of hype behind Nebula Genomics due to the sequencing of the entire genome. What's your opinion about this company? 3. Since you're a forensic geneticist, I wanted to know if there's a company or a method to get my DNA sequenced anonymously. Should I be worried about trusting my data with these companies? I know it's a lot of questions, but I would rather get some feedback from someone in the field. Thanks in advance :)

[@lucystevenson4951]

This was a fantastic read!

[@misterperson7070]

@@mikeg1877 Would love to know the answers to 2. & 3.

[@Moose-boots]

You are still missing one MAJOR fact. If you buy an ancestry test, you can upload it to my heritage for free. If you buy a my heritage test, you CANNOT upload it to ancestry, therefore, if you are interested in genealogy, ONLY go for ancestry, and from there, you can upload it to my heritage and livingDNA for no cost whatsoever.

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

Thanks for saving me 23 minutes and confirming what I already thought lol

[@Beanpomade]

What about 23andme

[@blackiedarling7539]

123 and i,and my heritage are not so good,,i prefer family tree dna and ancestry.going to do an ancestry test soon

[@resolecca]

@@blackiedarling7539 living dna is the worst it literally removed 27% of my dna like wtf

[@Network-Norway]

You forgot 1 important thing lol, Ancestry selling your DNA to other companies :) MyHeritage and FTDNA do NOT sell it further, and it's most accuracy in world, with same laboratory. They are in texas USA.

[@r.1599]

"Viking" is pretty much a job description as opposed to an ethnic group. I'm 70% couch surfer.

[@AmandaLeeRex]

Ancestry DNA helped me find my brother that I never even knew I had or existed. I’m so thankful for them ❤

[@zathras11b53]

Happy result, and also a tragedy that you didn't know you had a sibling for X number of years.

[@michita7838]

It helped my grandma find her lost daughter. My great-grandmother had sold her to an American couple when she was a baby. During the pandemic, my lost aunt and a cousin took the DNA test and the website told them they were related. My cousin started an investigation because only a few family members knew the story. It happened when my grandma was very young and she married my grandpa many years after that, so only the oldest aunts and uncles knew there was a lost one.

[@G5Hohn]

Can we just pause to appreciate the remarkable diction and clarity of speech used to convey the information? It's abundantly clear that you are intentionally making an effort to enhance the clarity of speech, and some of us REALLY appreciate it!

[@jamestimmons6838]

I would be interested to see what happens when you send 2 or 3 samples to the same provider. Before you can talk about accuracy, it is important to know if the results are even reproducible.

[@flyingsodwai1382]

I was thinking the same thing. Hear that UsefulCharts guy? You redo the tests and I will sub and ring the bell.

[@jwenting]

been done with DNA tests for pets, and the results were predictable (for the skeptic). Several of those companies sent back wildly different results for different swaps from the same pet, different enough that it appeared that the report was just randomly generated from a series of paragraphs and phrases stored in some database rather than based on any DNA analysis at all.

[@jamestimmons6838]

@@margaretford1011 was not aware of that service. Excellent suggestion!

[@gingernightmare9152]

Ancestry are watching and testing for that. I did a blind test/hid my identity/address/bank details. They refused my result. They knew I was trying to do two different tests to compare.

[@margaretford1011]

@@gingernightmare9152 Interesting. Did they refund your money?

[@andresdiazgarrido3940]

The bad thing about MyHeritage is that being from Latin America does not differentiate between your percentage of indigenous and mestizo, but mixes everything as Mesoamerican and Andean, also in America there are many indigenous peoples and it seems that they only take into account the most famous indigenous people such as the Incas, Mayans and Aztecs. Being Chilean, I probably have Mapuche or aymara blood (indigenous from Chile) and I would like the companies to differentiate between these peoples. I uploaded my results in case you want to see them.

[@mawer9900]

Hola! Una consulta, qué test usaste y como lo hiciste, dado que 23andme no envía a Chile y necesito hacer el test. gracias!

[@lachikachilena57]

23andMe also doesn’t give you specific peoples but it does give you country and region where your ancestors are likely from. I’m also Chilean and I got Santiago and the O’Higgins region as the two most likely origin and then a few others that are likely but not as strong.

[@talanross3141]

Same thing happens to indigenous people here in North America, we’re grouped in with Mongalian and Siberians. It does have a separate portion for just larger area indigenous peoples, such as greater lakes or plains indigenous.

[@MrChristianDT]

As much as it sucks, I think the only way Native people's would get as good DNA results is if our blood was compared against the DNA tests already done on Native remains removed from the ground. I don't want our dead disturbed further, either, but in cases where it's already been done, we may as well use what we've got.

[@sozeytozey]

And you expect them to be able to do this, how? It's not magic, you realize that right? There are going to be limitations.

[@somedayblue9197]

I'm a researcher in Genetics. One issue you didn't cover was how easy it is to get your raw data. I think most of them allow you to request the results, but I remember that several years ago, HELIX didn't provide a way to get your raw genotype data. They wanted to keep your data and sell you lots of extra tests. I would not buy a test that didn't give me full access to my data. Also, if I have the data, I don't need to pay someone to compute my Polygenic Risk Scores (PRS) since I can do that myself. More importantly, you didn't mention that a PRS may not be accurate if someone is of an ethnicity not well represented in the reference study (which is particularly a concern for people with non-european ancestry). If you do get the raw data from multiple tests, it would be interesting to compare the data. There are no absolute gold standards here, and all the tests with have some (generally very few, but some) errors. One can look at Kappa statistics between the various tests. Personally, I'd like to get whole genome sequence for myself, but from blood, not a spit or swab kit. In our research, we've seen that the spit kits are less reliable than DNA taken from blood draws.

[@MK-oe5md]

Did you watch the full video?

[@lunagray-wolf2404]

Agreed! I have 6 kids, and we all took a few tests, haha well I can promise you they all came out of me, but we're not related or distantly related 😅. My grandson who is 18 is my son!

[@mala3isity]

I'm concerned about the staff contracting Covid from the samples. Is it safe for them?

[@bomathis4194]

@@mala3isity Im certain they lick each sample.

[@rotagbhd]

I was comparing my Ancestry and 23&me results and the ancestry had about 680k lines on notepad, and the 23&me was about 602k. Next I glanced over chromosome#1 in each file, compared the first 6 and last 6 entries from each test on that #1 chromosome. Of the 12 for each test, only 4 were identified by both tests. I notice some tests show the X chromosome, some do not, and some show 1-22 while others show 1-26. It's a bit confusing. It would be nice to be able to combine multiple raw data files into one, I have I'd like to combine somehow.

[@beckybanta126]

Thank you for being the tester of many & showing side-by-side results of each. Appreciate the work involved to share & teach.

[@icyflame2564]

20 YEAR OLD COLD CASE. Detectives in Jersey contacted me! I guess I share close DNA to a murderer. I allowed them to search through my DNA relatives trying to locate this person.

[@Roar.k]

it was you right? ;-)

[@eotikurac]

if they need you permission to do what they do, never give the permission. it's amazing how easily women seek to be "responsible" when it can hurt someone else.

[@Everly.Everly]

@@Roar.kI did it

[@ThomasGeiger-x3g]

Way to give up your privacy

[@dangolfishin]

Bots have DNA?? And relatives????

[@mellertid]

A major but valuable investigation would be taking all nine existing tests once more, to see if some results deviate significantly between rounds!

[@margaretford1011]

The same samples will yield different ethnicity and perhaps also traits results over time as the databases increase and as the science progresses. No need to retest. Your DNA is already a digital file and they automatically run that digital file through their new algorithms and inform you of the updates.

[@a_diamond]

@@margaretford1011 Yeah, but the idea here is to test how reliable the results actually are. Not how well they do at printing off a copy of the results from a previous test. It shouldn't matter to any company to run the full test battery a second time on the new sample. It's what people paid for. Thing is, we have no real way of know whether they would run it twice or not.

[@margaretford1011]

@@a_diamond One thing I can tell you is that I have seen quite a few people upload DNA results from two different company test kits to a third database and the match readouts were identical, indicating that the procedures these companies used to count the raw DNA proteins were identical as well. So although I have now tested with two different companies using two different sampling methods (I first tested with FTDNA but later wanted to get in the larger Ancestry database and one has to test with them to get that). I wouldn’t do that again. Instead, I would test with Ancestry and then download the raw file and upload to other databases. What changes over time is not the physical processing, but the computer analysis of all the ATGC’s after they have been counted. The raw data file is the readout of the ATGC’s. The company determination of ethnicity,traits,and matching segments is based on a company specific algorithm. Whenever the algorithms update, the whole database of ATGC files are run through them and you get the results. This is not the same as “making a copy”. Anyway, … I think it would be a waste of money, and only really worth it if you suspect the labs are being sloppy in their handling of the specimen. Or.. if you’ve had a blood transfusion or organ transplant or have just carried an embryo - all of which could add someone else’s DNA to your body. That would actually be a cool experiment.

[@ep5acg]

@@margaretford1011 That makes a lot of sense. However Useful Charts said only one of the companies offered the full sequence. Others were looking for specific sites. Or did I misunderstand that? How does a person a person who has a sequence done upload to other databases? I assume that would be a paid for service also?

[@113dmg9]

Or... how about retaking 3 of the tests (for a total of 3 times each) 3 months apart. This is NOT to waste money... but rather to assess accuracy and consistency of test results... particularly within same company. It'd be interesting to see how newer results compare with periodically updated info of original findings. I'd also be interested in determining if there's a greater deviation or not... especially because the 9 tests in this video didn't significantly agree with one another (20:03).

[@karenzielke9387]

I took both 23andme and Crigenetics. My father was 1st gen American. We know his Germanic ancestors came from the Prussian empire in an area that is now Poland in the 1860s. All have Germanic surnames. While Crigenetics categorized these ancestors as German, 23andme attributed them as Polish using post WWII borders. Just saying...

[@jpe1]

I had a similar situation, my father’s father’s father’s father’s father’s father came to the British colony of Pennsylvania from Prussia in 1753, but Ancestry calls that Prussian heritage “German” despite the fact that Germany didn’t exist at the time. If my dad were alive he would definitely have something to say if someone tried to say his ancestors were German instead of Prussian. The difficulty perhaps arises from temporal imprecision of DNA testing, it’s hard to know precisely *when* an ancestor lived solely from DNA, so it’s hard to know what country they lived in at the time they lived, plus national borders don’t always hew closely to ethnography.

[@QemeH]

@@jpe1 What do you mean "He would have something to say about it"? Prussia always understood itself to be one of the german states, it was indisputably german - arguably the most important and often leading kingdom within the empire. I don't think any prussian would've taken offense to being called german. Being called polish back in those times however...

[@vilena5308]

I was reading some studies about genetic differences in Slavic populations in Europe. Basically and roughly, West Slavs (Slovaks, Czechs, Poles, Sorbs, etc.) are, as a whole, far harder to distinguish from their neighbours than South and East Slavs. And vice versa of course. There was a lot of mixing there in the last 1500 years. One can see that in RL as well: I have a Polish friend, who can count at least 4 generations that consider themselves Polish. Their name and last name is pure German though as they lived in territory that was once under Germany. So, genetically, who knows. It's the culture that you grow up in that defines you in the end.

[@QemeH]

@@vilena5308 Very important point, yes. Most western europeans have a mixed heritage in both genetics and culture - even people who are like "I can trace my heritage back to the 1300's and all of them are french" will have to make concessions at some point or another. Like: Really, not a single colony-officer lover-boy among your great-(...)-grandfathers? Nobody who brought home a cute german girl from the Rhineland back when it was occupied by France? Not a single italian dude from one of the islands in the Med that kept changing sides? The fact is that culture and, kinda with it or around it, borders change much, MUCH more quickly than genetics do. So while this is a fun little exercise it says *NOTHING AT ALL* about how your ancestors where raised, saw themselves or were seen by others at the time of their life.

[@jpe1]

@@QemeH my dad was always very insulted to be called German, he would point out that he fought Germans in WWII, but the Prussian people didn’t become Nazis.

[@izzyrockonhello7883]

You forgot to mention that CRI Genetics goes back farther in your dna time line. They also tell you when in time that specific dna entered into your heritage. I’ve taken several DNA tests and this is why I liked CRI the best.

[@sr2291]

CRI Genetics uses the 3 letter citations from 1000 Genomes. Look into how 1000 Genomes does their research. It really helps to get to more detailed information as to where your ancestors originate from.

[@mala3isity]

Yes, it's not only the database size but how many years do they go back? From people I've interacted with genealogically, they're lucky to find where their 2x great-grandparents LIVED at times. It's where their people were BORN that interests me. Nomads, travelers, conquerors, natives are important factors.

[@sr2291]

@@mala3isity Geneticists can use DNA to match you to archeological sites. That is what MyTrueAncestry does. There is also an ancestral section of GEDMatch that does that for Europe. I am doing Portuguese research in Madeira and have access to a database with the original birth marriage and death records. I have taken parts of my ancestry back to the beginning of Madeira in the mid 15th century. I wish there were the same parish records in the US.

[@MightyMouse1222]

I went with CRI for this reason. Know what I am is great; knowing who that came from when is fascinating; and a great time killer to dig into.

[@nillyk5671]

23andme does the same though. I've heard a lot of bad reviews about Cri so I don't trust it.

[@ThreeGreenthumbs]

I have just binged on 8 or so of your youtube videos (mostly historical ones, but this one caught my eye). You have a gift for explaining complex topics in an "easy to digest" way. You also have a great verbal cadence which is hard to master...not too fast, not too slow with intonation in check. Keep it up!

[@chriscase9549]

Best bang for the buck is to use the cheapest 23&me kit, then upload the raw data to Promethease to get health reports. They use the SNPedia database to give 40,000 ties to genetic phenotypes. Total cost a bout $100, and you get Mito and Y haplogroups too.

[@MisterTipp]

I did both MyHeritage and Ancestry, and I got very similar results. That said, MyHeritage lumps together all Scandinavians into one group, which made the ancestry results way more interesting. Also found quite a bit of unknown relatives on there!

[@TheDanEdwards]

My soapbox (one of several): the real value, _the incredible value_ , of taking some of these DNA tests is _to find cousins_ . Many times discoveries can be made about one's family's history by finding these cousins. The biggest will be non-paternity events (i.e., the father was not who is on record.) Genealogy is family history and if you want to know about your family then *study the actual records and see if you cousin matches line up with your developed family tree.*

[@PennyAfNorberg]

My matches is seldom in my trees mostly because the trees are mostly on dead persons.

[@RickMcQuay]

Exactly. I use DNA matches to verify my paper-based tree. My father's family tree turned out to be wrong which I proved with DNA matches. It wasn't an NPE but someone had the wrong birth record for my GGF. Paper is paper, blood is blood.

[@patrickcurtin8579]

I agree Dan. At this time, I have placed over 800 dna matched cousins into my tree by meticulously rebuilding their trees to where it matches mine with a common ancestor. This has provided new insights and has also either confirmed or debunked connections and assumptions that I had to my 3x, 4x & 5x GGPs.

[@sheilam4964]

@Dan Edwards - agree 100 %.

[@sheilam4964]

@@RickMcQuay - the paper issue happens all too often but the DNA is solid proof.

[@EricDavidRocks]

I'm adopted and my birth mom was of European ancestry. She lived in the US, but was impregnated by an Italian on a trip abroad. I found a "cousin" in Italy via MyHeritage, which checks out as having a greater footprint in the EU. I have met my birthmother through an Ancestry test, and hope to meet my birth father some day from the MyHeritage connection, though he doesn't know about me and that might upset his own family....

[@Qwondi]

Looking for biological mother also, thanks for sharing

[@EricDavidRocks]

@♜ ᴜꜱᴇꜰᴜʟ ᴄʜᴀʀᴛꜱ middle finger

[@maestroclassico5801]

Also adopted met biological mother 30 years ago....trying to meet biological father before its too late. Trying to find him using these tests.

[@rogermichaelwillis6425]

@@maestroclassico5801 My biological daughter found me through Ancestry when she was 47. Actually, she found me first, and then I helped her find her biological mother.

[@maestroclassico5801]

@@rogermichaelwillis6425 Found you FIRST? Wow that's a switch up.

[@annetteinzinga677]

You didn't mention an important factor in CRI's DNA testing that I really liked for my genealogy research. The tell you at which generational time period changes came into your genetic genealogy. For example, it might show Tuscan Italian was added to my gene pool in my 4th generation during the 1800's. This is useful information when you are researching marriages as it could help in locating church records.

[@lionedheart]

23andme does the same

[@samvimes9510]

As interesting as it would be to take one of these tests, I'm not doing it. A few years ago FamilyTreeDNA voluntarily gave all their data to the feds without informing their customers. Ancestry and 23andMe have sold their data to companies like GSK and Calico (a company run by Google). This industry is completely unregulated and, since it doesn't provide healthcare or insurance, isn't subject to HIPPA laws. It amazes me that people worry about Facebook selling their browsing data, but they'll hand over their genetic data with zero qualms.

[@Objectified]

Not quite. FTDNA didn't "give all their data to the feds" but they do have a process through which they will create an account for law enforcement to upload its own genetic profile in an attempt to match perpetrators or victims of certain violent unsolved crimes to identities.

[@rayp-w5930]

definite . there

[@melinachessex961]

You are absolutely right.

[@Brassblitz]

Starting in 1990, it took 13 years and billions of dollars to sequence the first human genome, and now they can do it for less than $1,000. That's utterly astonishing. (And you could argue it took 32 years depending on your definition of "fully complete genome")

[@CraftAero]

That pattern is quite common. To develop and produce a new car model may take 4yrs and cost +$1billion to roll the first one off the line. After that you can bang one out for a few thousand. Many years ago I bought my first digital camera. The first photo I took (still have it) cost me ~$800. The second photo cut the cost to $400. A couple years later my cost per photo was pennies.

[@sybrandwoudstra9236]

Bonuspoints for that the first human sequence was only fully sequencef in 2003 (with the "human genomen project).

[@TyrianHaze]

@@CraftAero Get into a fist fight in front of a police station, and your photo won't cost you a single penny.

[@ashleyhall8994]

Ah the Human Genome Project! I just did my college essay on genomes and this lol

[@spelcheak]

I thought the project was across several people and had more (not counting comparing to databases) work going into it?

[@French-Kiss24]

23and Me did a great job. I have an unusual health condition, and it did pick it up. Also, I know exactly we’re my grandfather came from. The test was very specific, and they were correct. I also know where my ancestors came from on the other side of the family. Again, they were correct. Interestingly, there were also some surprises.

[@aspenenglish4976]

I have something unusual too. I actually have several defects. I was wondering if I should,see what it says just for curiosity sake. I just don’t want any relatives to know I took it. I know it sounds weird. It’s a whole big mess.

[@patriciaschoffelen2299]

23 and me was very accurate indeed. My daughter did her test there and all the facts about my and my husbands family that were known to us already showed up in the results. My husband came from Turkey but my mother in law always told everybody she came from Iran. And she was right, 55% Iranian. My mixed Scottish , German and Dutch heritage showed up as well. Maybe I will try livingDNA to check my Scottish heritage, just for fun😁

[@valdasilva123]

Ancestry is a scam - the first test I did with them said i was 10% iberian peninsular. My great great grandmother was either Spanish or Portuguese (came from Olivenza) and could have been both, uploaded to CRI genetics and I am 15.9% Iberian Peninsula, but now that Ancestry has redone their algorhythm I NO LONGER HAVE ANY IBERIAN PENINSULA IN MY RESULTS AT ALL...AND WE KNOW MY GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS portugese/spanish.. now that to me is a ripoff. Now it says I am also British... THAT I KNEW BEFORE I STARTED AS MOST OF MY RELATIVES ARE BRITISH (Ireland, Scotch, English).

[@aspenenglish4976]

@@valdasilva123 I’m kind of in the same boat. Part of the Iberian peninsula comes up as Sephardic Jewish. My dr thinks it’s a very bad idea because I have so many things wrong with me and my children that we should just wait for each specialist to do their tests. She’s very afraid that somehow we could lose our insurance. We did have some blood work done from a hematologist and got some answers regarding my husband. I’m next up. One of my children has something so weird that it doesn’t have a name. My heritage is very similar to yours. I just look like I should be in an Irish spring commercial but both parents had black hair.🤔. We’re just a mystery I guess. Good luck to you.

[@DragonflyenAmber]

I originally tested with 23&Me and have uploaded to My Heritage, FTDNA, GedMatch and Living DNA. The results were pretty similar for ethnicity. I've gotten the best matches on My Heritage and GedMatch, with Living DNA being a bang on match with my tree research into my UK ancestors. Via My Heritage we discovered our Swedish ancestors actually originated in Finland.

[@amyw6808]

Did my heritage a couple of years ago and it’s interesting to see how the ethnicity results have ever so slightly changed over the last couple of years to be slightly more detailed. Guessing that’s as they have more and more people from different regions signing up.

[@lonlonlink]

If you clicked this to see result comparisons, I'll save you some time, this is essentially an ad for each company

[@germenfer]

One that is similar to Nebula but much cheaper is "ADNtro". It also shows the scientific papers that they got their info from, their reliability, the risk, etc. It's really nice for all of this health analysis while also including much more such as genealogy, and other miscellaneous stuff.

[@melindahernandez9043]

My sister utilized ancestry. It was interesting. Lo and behold, a young woman reached out to her asking about one of our first cousins. Turns out she was our cousin's daughter who had been searching for him. My cousin had no idea as it was a one night stand. They met and all is well. I can see where this would be a problem for some people finding out you have children you didn't know about.

[@MovingOnSoon]

Yes or a half sister. Thanking God my mother is no longer here.

[@GingerBishop]

Yeah allot of doctors where caught from these test kits the most notorious being Dr. Donald Cline. Sick individual and messed up story but pretty interesting 🧐

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

Good it had a happy ending for that cousin.

[@tablelegz]

@@MovingOnSoon 😂

[@brickdinero5468]

That’s nuts makes me wanna do this because I know I have brothers and sisters on the island from my father (Dominican republic)

[@moon-ud8tq]

I like narrator's clear voice, enunciation , tone & speaking speed as it is easy to understand, along with the charts -- very interesting and informative.

[@tonybaker55]

Good review. I have used Ancestry and they do periodically update your information, as they get more data. Mine has changed quite a bit over about 5 years, so another thing to consider, as the first results were more broad brush and now, they seem to be homing in on distinct areas.

[@PrincessLily84]

Yes! I’ve had mine for almost 10 years now and it has changed so much. I was originally “from Europe”. Now I know I’m 17% Italian, 17% Scottish and 12% Irish. ❤

[@gwenludlow384]

You did an excellent job in explaining all the various tests, especially using your great charts. Thanks!

[@virginiagill5902]

Since I have an incredibly well documented family tree I opted for Nebula Genomics. All the looking at death certificates had me wanting a deeper understanding of my genetics. Learned some interesting things and am very glad I saved my pennies and then jumped when they had a half price sale last year.

[@travcollier]

I do bioinformatics on mosquitos for a living, so Nebula Genomics doing WGS and allowing you to download the actual sequencing results is really tempting. It would be fun to run some of the analysis myself. That said, all these need to be taken with a huge grain of salt... Lots of companies oversell the accuracy. Also, it is a shame that each of these companies keeps proprietary databases. It would be much more powerful if we combined them all. I'd probably go for 23andMe's SNPChip just to have it run against their database. (Ancestry's religious/agenda origin creeps me out.)

[@RomanKovbasyuk]

Well documented tree is a good helper in determination of possible relationships with DNA matches. And by connecting them, you get your tree expanded sideways into unknown side branches. That's why it's beneficial to test your DNA even if you have a deep tree of ancestors.

[@nicoledburns82]

I did CRI Genetics and was surprised to see I am 7% Armenian. After talking to my grandfather he showed me a picture of his great grandmother whom he said was Cherokee. She looked middle eastern and did more research to find there was absolutely nothing listed in databases about her being Native American but that she was "found" as a young child and pretty much adopted so I am believing more the middle eastern rather than the Cherokee.

[@risingsun9595]

If the timeline matches up, she could very well have been a refugee from the Armenian Genocide, which would explain the "found" nature.

[@pav688]

How old was that photo?

[@nicoledburns82]

@@pav688 it was an old sepia colored picture given to him by his father. So not real sure.

[@nicoledburns82]

@@risingsun9595 she was born early 1900s and that is all anyone knows it seems.

[@RomanKovbasyuk]

@@risingsun9595 "a refugee from the Armenian Genocide" seems likely given "she was born early 1900s". Surely, tests with several other companies (MyHeritage and FTDNA preferably, as they're targeting testers from Europe) would provide more info, and, if Nicole would get lucky, even some distant cousins. But it's better to test Nicole's father.

[@annmariebudyn]

I went through Ancestry. Results were very impressive correctly stating the areas in Ireland that my great grandparents came from as well as the area of Poland my father came from. A second cousin who I am on touch with was first on my list of relatives and subsequently when my sister completed a test she became top of the list with the same results. I've also inherited some new cousins with whom I am in regular contact.

[@sarco64]

The ancestry test correctly narrowed down my Irish great-grandparents to the correct county of origin (Clare).

[@zerowhite2286]

I was spooked by the latest update that correctly zeroed in on an area within an Irish county that included the town and village I know my great grandparents came from.

[@European_girl_in_Canada]

Which one did you order? AncestryDNA, or AncestryDNA+Traits?

[@marylandrum603]

I'm adopted in a private adoption in the 50's. I used CRI and was very intrigued by the results. The only thing I was told was (in version 2 of my background) was Biological Maternal Grandfather came over on the boat from Italy. I was really surprised to find I was 32% Italian and to my shock 28.6% German! I'm short, 5'3" with dark brown hair. My adoptive mom is so German mom's last name was Keil, like the town in north Germany. They're all blue eyed blondes so I was blown away. In the Advanced Ancestry section, where they try to go back up to 50 generations, turns out I'm Northern Han Chinese, then Southern Han and it keeps going west from there! Both of my older children have been asked at various times if they're Native American, Japanese, Vietnamese, Chinese, Korea and more. The answer now is yes, kind of, lol. CRI also found an ancestor from the Esan tribe of Nigera, one from Puerto Rico, Columbia, Peru and Mexico! I was floored to say the least.

[@BDF30]

Well... very strange results that with 50 generations back... I think that chinese people with germans... never met...

[@titaniummechanism3214]

Trusting these companies with something as sensitive as your DNA seems insane to me. The trouble that 23andme has been in recently should be plenty enough to discourage anyone from sending their DNA away.

[@cloudyview]

Just as a single critique - 'anonymized' data can be de-anonymized extremely easily, depending on the amount of data provided. You only need a few points of data to make an extremely small pool of potential people, and each additional piece reduces the number of potential candidates gets even smaller. Just Birthday and zip, you're already down to maybe a dozen people, if sex is included you've halved that. Just be aware that 'anonymized' data doesn't really make anything anonymous, at least if the person/group that purchased the data is remotely competent with that data.

[@nunyabiznez6381]

You are correct. But, if you take precautions and know what you are doing. you can get the information with absolute anonymity. The only data point that is a real challenge is your address. It connects you to everything. So as it happens I know of addresses in my city where the post office delivers large volumes of mail to and don't check the names and all go into the same box and random people go there to pick up their mail. I used the one most convenient to me as I'm curious yet paranoid about intrusion. I am one of dozens of volunteers at a facility that helps hundreds of homeless people every day. One of the services that the facility provides is free mail service. All anyone need do is log into the free wifi account there, register a free anonymous email with our server (only available in person to our clients and volunteers-I have several) and pay with a visa gift card since it is a one time purchase and not a recurring membership. They ship the test kit to the facility addressed to your choice of John Doe's and you spit in it and mail it back being careful to use gloves so as not to leave prints. Then you get an email announcing your results. For email the best they are going to do is narrow it down to one of around 4800 half of whom gave us fake names to begin with. The address will come up as that facility if someone google's it and if you paid cash for the visa gift card that too is untraceable. Did I miss anything? Well yes there is the whole part about you will be part of a data base and will have a pretty good idea who you are related to but the only relative who has had any contact with me in 40 years would be my brother and he's more paranoid than I am and hates genealogy and could care less so he's not in the data base. My cousins are but I have over 100 of them and don't have any contact with them. I occasionally google some and see their data on Ancestry but if someone wanted to track me down it would be damned near impossible and since I've committed no murders or any other serious crimes they are not going to waste their resources on me. The last time I did commit a crime I went to prison for it and got out years before DNA testing was a thing.

[@ritasplace1]

If any of these tests are processed in China, how can you be sure that you have anonymity? The Chinese gov't is known to have massive amounts of data on its citizens and from others abroad. What's to stop them from keeping this data too?

@@nunyabiznez6381 that’s some next level effort, congrats

[@nunyabiznez6381]

@ You should see some of the things some of these homeless guys do to stay anonymous.

@@nunyabiznez6381 a homeless person can’t afford an dna test

[@wildmanhistory2738]

I was able to backtrack my history through my Grandfather. Though we have been a hodgepodge of German, Polish and Ukrainian, really we were Swedish and Polish descended settlers in German who moved to Western Ukraine. I was only able to solve the mystery when my grandfather's Ancestry results reported him to by 26% Swedish. Gonna check out that Viking Data Base, Thanks Useful Charts!

[@Curiosity403]

In India we don't even need expensive DNA tests, we just have to visit Haridwar or Varanasi there are many priests who had written full biodata of each and every person who had visited Haridwar or Varanasi. I found my Ancestors to be from Pakistan about 400 years ago they came to Pune were I am from 😂

[@rball690]

That method may not be 100% accurate. Many families (if not most) have family secrets in their history which will not be told to the priests.

[@Annaspopoff]

That's so... cool❤, most of us are mixed mutts and have the feeling... of being lost in the middle of the open ocean on a small raft. Missing the feet planted on land connection. ❤😂😅

[@robertwilliamson6121]

I’ve done both Ancestry DNA and 23 & Me. (My family tree is on Ancestry). Got the complete package including health results with 23 & Me. Happy with both companies. Quite similar results, but a few differences in north west European results. However…yes… accuracy should increase over time as more and more people take the tests. I’ve already seen that happening during updates. Thank you for your videos.

[@savagecub]

Excellent work! This is a great summary. Thanks for posting.

[@fredturner4447]

Very good review! One thing I would add is that if someone is looking for matches (relatives) then they should test with more than one company because you can find different matches depending on who has tested with whom. Also, if you have a sibling having them test also because we don't get the same exact 50% DNA from each parent.

[@thecryingshame]

The whole clone Army is gonna be Matt at this point!

[@patrickcurtin8579]

good video. you might also include in your comparison which sites allow you to upload your DNA raw data generated from another site's test for free (or for a small fee), and receive their dna analysis.

[@arthurh5707]

For those with Anglo ancestry, Living DNA has an excellent database by English county. And their maternal and paternal DNA analyses are great.

[@quinnleydean8335]

I know I have quite a bit of English and Irish ancestry through my father's side, it'll be very interesting to see a whole breakdown of where specifically they came from. LivingDNA is definitely on my To Get list once I have the income for it!

[@theb3654]

Is it good for Celtic too? Welsh specifically

[@yahccs1]

I'm glad you mentioned not eating for a while before taking the test. I did a swab once to send for a blood cancer charity but was a bit afraid some of my saliva might have traces of food in it. If I had just eaten say an egg sandwich and a banana they might find I'm 50% banana, 25% chicken and 20% wheat and just a little bit human!! If "we are what we eat", then diet may have just as big (or bigger) role in health than genetics! Unless certain genes make us like or dislike certain foods. I don't have much of a 'spice' gene so can't take much of something spicy before it burns or stings or makes me ill (at least strong ones like chilli, pepper, mustard) Maybe the allergy/intolerance is genetic. A bit of ginger or cinnamon is not so bad...!

[@petrapedia]

If you do another of these, please do SEQUENCING. I did their whole grenome sequencing and have found several conditions that fit my consellation of symptoms

[@hugoanderkivi]

Should try changing your diet to what is more species-appropriate (carnivore) and see how that impacts you.

[@rhondajones6219]

@petrapedia how does one go about doing sequencing?

[@julius-stark]

I saw your original 5 tests video and decided to use Ancestry because I'm American, but I'm glad someone is doing a "best test for African Americans" video because my results were all over the place which was mostly Africa, but around 25% combined was from Ireland, Norway, Wales, and England/Europe.

[@destinycircle8192]

However, was an ancestor a female slave in America? Because many were sexually assaulted by their owners and overseers, resulting in mixed-race children. Also, it's possible an ancestor had an affair at some point. Or a lover they couldn't marry because it was illegal at the time, so they married someone else after becoming pregnant by the lover.

[@KimberlyGreen]

@@destinycircle8192 Well-said. I regrettably have enslavers in my family ancestry. And Ancestry DNA matches show at least 4 modern persons of color that I'm related to. All are 5th to 8th cousins, which would mean the common ancestor is pre-Emancipation. The most likely reason for the relationship is because of past sexual assault, though I hope and pray that isn't the case.

[@MarikHavair]

As I understand it quarter white ancestry is typical for African Americans, modern immigrants like the recent influx of Somalians notwithstanding.

[@geografisica]

The situation gets really complicated with the Latin Americans, because we are a melting pot of different heritages and races from all around the world. I would like to know which test is better for us.

[@agirlisnoone5953]

The same test as the ones geared toward north america as we too are a melting pot of ethnicities from all over the world.

[@yourmother9834]

@@agirlisnoone5953 thats not helpful btw idk why you bothered

[@agirlisnoone5953]

@@yourmother9834 ? Your comment is unhelpful. I was letting the OP know which test would fit their needs. Use a dna test geared toward "melting pot" countries. Whats your point you angry person lol

[@wngmv]

Everything right now is pretty much western and northern European focused. If you are not of that ancestry I wouldn't bother.

[@geografisica]

@@agirlisnoone5953 It’s different because US and Canada are multiracial but not Interracial at all, so most the people are not a mixture, then you can get every ancestry easily. On the contrary, Latin America is very interracial, you can have literally every World haplogroup in your genes.

[@heartnsoullove]

This is really great info! Thank you for providing for free!

[@tommccabe3781]

Both of my parents were orphans. The surnames indicated Irish and dutch. I used CRI mostly because they seem more privacy oriented. The results were mind blowing because they showed ancestors from all over the globe, mostly at costal locations. Since air travel is a recent invention it seems that would indicate sea faring was a long lasting part of my ancestors traditions. Sir Francis Drake was a notable ancestor listed so that touches home. Lots more interesting relatives of notables were matched in the 26 generations they traced. Very interesting stuff. I would appear to be a mega mutt.

[@RomanKovbasyuk]

Definitely worth a try to test your parents in different companies to get them included into as many databases as possible in order to get more matches. Some of them could be close relatives. And don't discount Y-DNA testing and matching at FTDNA - their Big-Y tests are best at revealing deep paternal line ancestry.

[@trubadorphotography2541]

I had no interest in doing a DNA test because I already knew from my own research where my ancestry came from (on both sides of my parental lineage) = 100% from one specific region of one specific country. But a close relative decided to get the Ancestry test done. The results were almost exactly what I expected. The results came back that we were 94% from that country, and 76% of that was concentrated in the same and surrounding region/provinces that I knew our ancestry was from. Of the remaining 6%, that was split evenly between two countries literally across the sea a short sail from the area our ancestry was originally from. Made sense that a tiny portion of our lineage could’ve come from a close, neighboring region. All in all, pretty accurate.

[@EfficientRVer]

Unless the "close relative" is your identical twin, you are still making big assumptions rather than scientific conclusions about your ancestry. Nobody thinks their actual grandfather is who they thought was their great uncle only related by marriage, until they get the DNA results, just as one example. Relying upon a relative's DNA test is OK if you are happy that it is the result you were hoping for, and you don't want to risk a "He was NOT her/your father" moment that could rock your family.

[@trubadorphotography2541]

@@EfficientRVer Being that it was my brother and all of us siblings look just like our parents (who were together for over 50 years) , I think for me it’s a safe assumption. 😉

[@icyflame2564]

Funny! My friends said same thing until she took the test.. Her family even has a book

[@Linkedblade]

The most important thing that everyone needs to know about about genetic testing for genealogy purposes is that the ethnic percentages are mostly useless. It's better for finding people alive today that are closely related, like distant cousins, so you can perhaps add more information to your tree. That's the strength of these tests which is to see how closely two individuals are related.

[@sezinun5819]

I was curious about the ethnic percentages just because I wanted to know if a grand grand parent had an affair or something, but I guess they are not that accurate.

[@Linkedblade]

@@sezinun5819 well, an affair that resulted in one of your parents? 😂 You would need the DNA of both person's to see who you are more closely related to.

[@philjohnson4607]

@@Linkedblade lol haha

[@simonestreeter1518]

I have my family tree traced back about 300 years and my DNA tests from two companies have come back to match it quite closely. Not useless at all.

[@elaexplorer]

The percentage is accurate. Some people think you automatically get a certain percentage from each nationality and DNA just doesn't work that way. Just because your grandfather is Italian doesn't mean you are 25% Italian. You can be anything from 0 to 25%. Your DNA doesn't discriminate where/who it's coming from.

[@becboobear]

I did ancestry, but I was also able to download my dna data and upload it to family tree dna. I can’t access everything, but I got some connections for free. I can unlock the rest of the stuff for $19.

[@NormSanders]

Never came across, nor previously heard of this channel/individual ... nor would I think I'd find it interesting in the least, but WOW have I been surprised. VERY IMPRESSED by what comes across as a convincing non-bias (as much as anyone is capable of), transparency, and great details/breakdown. Instant subscriber, and looking forward to checking out more of their (or your, if you read these) work!

[@charlenasutherland]

Your approach to this subject was very informative and I really liked your format. I like that you dispelled all the conspiracy theories about how individual DNA is used and not used. If one reads the privacy disclaimers, it’s quite clear and I’m with you, if my “Uncle Bob” murdered someone, I want him caught. Law Enforcement only accesses public forums and not the private ones.

[@TheQueenVixen]

I took both 23 and Me & Ancestry, as a black american woman I also wanted to take the African tribal dna test but was unsure. I can't wait to see what you guys have planned for us. Maybe I will change my mind. Thank you

[@_Maya_The_Messiah_]

Which was better?

[@MrLeemurman]

I am part Lebanese and I have seen some videos of Lebanese folks taking DNA tests. Some tests say that they are Jewish, while others say they are Levantine (From Lebanon/Syria area).

[@charlesrb3898]

Jewishness is a religion not a race. The tribes lived in a Levantine stew.

[@joshconeby]

@@charlesrb3898 Historically Jews were extremely genetically isolated (only married other Jews for the most part) so DNA tests can easily identify them (especially Ashkenazi Jews).

[@Malilimutin]

That’s not very useful is it. Levantines are definitely not a race. Various peoples have settled in that area like Arameans, Europeans, Arabs, Armenians, Turks, Kurds, etc etc

[@recoveringsoul755]

@@charlesrb3898 well you might think so, to be Jewish you are supposed to be born to a Jewish mother and be raised Jewish in religious practice. But since anyone can convert to Judaism, it does muddy the waters. In its most pure form it's a race of people and their descendants. It's like Islam, supposed to be a religion but it's really a political ideology. Contrasted with being native American, where if you are too diluted you can't call yourself one.

[@spikefivefivefive]

@@charlesrb3898 - Jews have a Semitic ethnicity.

[@HistoryandHeadlines]

Thank you for sharing! I've had interest in trying, out of curiosity, but those seem quite a bit different in terms of results and I'm also not comfortable with private companies having my DNA. If I had the money, I'd be more interested in having a genealogist research my family tree.

[@maximusasauluk7359]

It's kind of pointless waste of money... nobody can "research" your genealogy. In order to understand your genetics you need to compare them to other, in other words a huge sample. Only machines can do this, humans are worthless here.

[@HistoryandHeadlines]

@@maximusasauluk7359 I mean my family tree.

[@rogerramjet6429]

Reading through these comments, it's become all the more evident that our future is limited and nearing its inevitable end for the majority of people. You're the first person I've seen that's questioned the motives of collecting people's DNA. Klaus Schwab has been rather specific about the intentions, but as usual, the majority of people are so gullible and willfully ignorant and stupid. That they jump jump into the fire with no thoughts about the consequences. Just watch how the majority haven't learned anything about the lies during the plandemic, and will be lining up for their own deaths. A dog is smarter than that.

[@nillyk5671]

Thing is your family tree could be a borrowed family tree. There are secrets in all families. There are people who have spent decades researching their family tree only to take a dna test and discover that their grandfather or great grandfather or even themselves did not really belong into that family tree. This is why genealogy goes hand in hand with genetics.

[@SadSackGaming]

What gets me is that doctors should be requesting something like Nebula’s testing on patients, especially on newborns as it would provide them and the patients a base to form long term medical care. Imagine knowing someone is predisposed to breast cancer and you go, you should start mammograms at 14 or whatever age would be wise. Same thing with prostate cancer or heart disease or whatever. The issue is that insurance wouldn’t just cover the test, but would want the data associated with it because it would give them cause to charge more for insurance, especially if you have something that has a high chance of being a drain on their bottom line. Or they just cancel you because you are predisposed to MS or whatever.

[@JewishKeto]

I had a co worker tell me about the concerns of arrest and I said “…if someone committed a crime… I WANT them to get arrested!”

[@anonymousbub3410]

My ancestry results have been changing overtime which is a good sign that more and more information is being compared with each other making it more accurate which is good!

[@valdasilva123]

Not for me, my great great grandmother was Spanish/Portuguese (could have been both. My first Ancestry DNA result showe 10% Iberian Peninsular (my gg grandfather was in the Peninsular war when he met my gg grandma)... but now their "new" result shows NO IBERIAN PENINSULAR AT ALL...just British, (Irish, Scotch, English) which I knew already!!! RIPOFF

[@JulieS261]

Ancestry has recently updated their DNA information and now includes Ethnicity inheritance which shows what you have inherited from your parents. Although at this stage it is only Parent 1 and Parent 2.

[@starventure]

It’s easy to pick out who the specific parent is if their trees are known and there is a certain ethnic outlier presence on one versus the other. Mono ethnic individuals will have more trouble discerning who is who until AncestryDNA starts to associate matches with the parents. After that it should be a cakewalk.

[@sr2291]

@@starventure My parents are both Portuguese from Madeira so yeah. I'm trying to figure out why one side has Spain and the other side has Scotland. Just small amounts and who is who?

[@starventure]

@@sr2291 Port your data into Gedmatch and then try to correlate your known matches with the ethnicities.

[@sr2291]

@@starventure I don't believe that GEDMatch differentiates between Spanish and Portuguese. And I don't remember Scotland being on there. But I will try and see what I come up with. Thanks. Too much information to talk about it here.

[@starventure]

@@sr2291 If your matches have trees posted, you can use them to try to determine where the ethnic origin points are.

[@ulexite-tv]

Thanks - this was interesting. I am female and used FTDNA because i am Jewish, and it has a large Jewish database. I found many mtDNA "cousins," which was fascinating -- and we have become friends. I was an early adopter of DNA testing and in all these years i have never found a single relative from my father's family. I am thinking of taking a second test from another company in order to broaden my search for my father's line through autosomal DNA.

[@thomasshoner6864]

Being Jewish is a religion not an ethnic background.

[@cargosquid]

@@thomasshoner6864 And yet.... since the community tends to marry within said community and the community came from a specific region, it can be an ethnic background.

[@jpdj2715]

As databases in these companies grow over time, they will update your data to reflect new insights. I do not expect them to retest your specimen though. Possibly new testing methods get developed over time that would provide new insights. Looking at "genome" focuses on "genes" and these constitute only a small fraction of our DNA where the remainder is called epigenes. While "we" have an idea of what these epigenes do, we have no way to "read" them like genes. So AFAIK they are largely ignored. Or, new insights in DNA research will lead to new different ancestry details, or health, or ...

[@zamar2158]

I find this rather strange . How does religion reflect in DNA?

[@petuniasevan]

@@zamar2158 Jewish ethnicity is a thing. They are historically members of the Semitic group (as are Arabs). They got a bit diluted wandering all over Europe and the Middle East during the diaspora, but many have genetic markers thousands of years old pointing straight back to what is modern day Israel and the surrounding region.

[@robertwilliamson6121]

Some companies want both parents tested. Difficult to do when they are passed on and in their graves.

[@SylTheVester]

Wow thank you so much for the extensive details in this video, graphs 📊 and charts are Amazingly useful! I can not begin to tell you how interested I am but had no clue even what I wanted for myself! You helped me so much! I will share this with anyone I know looking into DNA 🧬 testing! Your voice is so pleasant too which is a bonus!

[@TheDanEdwards]

In empiricism, with the collection of data comes statistics. And if one is going to dive into data and numbers than one must come to terms with these concepts (which 23andMe discuss in their white papers): _precision_ , and _recall ._ Without understanding those, you will not be able to understand why different algorithms (such as in this video) pop out different numbers. Ancestry attempts to convey an important point in their *ranges* , which unfortunately most people never view. It is the ranges that indicate to you how confident you can be in the single number for any ethnicity.

[@SSHitMan]

I know a woman in her 50s whose family was very close to her mom's ex-boss and his family when they were growing up. She and her sisters decided to all get a DNA test and got quite a surprise... they were all half-siblings of the ex-boss's kids (who had apparently been tested by the same company)! Now the ex-boss and the man they thought was their father were dead by this point, but mom had some explaining to do!

[@sandramartin-my6gi]

The tests cant differentiate between half siblings abd first cousins, so their assumption may be misleading.

[@Cynthia-ss8ik]

That seems to happen a lot. These tests uncover a lot of secrets

[@carlcast1286]

​@@Cynthia-ss8ik nope, unless they all undergo the same test. It's impossible to know. Plus all this ancestry's bullcrap is impossible since there's no X or Y gene off from some area those people hail from necessarily.

[@Cynthia-ss8ik]

@@sandramartin-my6gi they differentiate by the amount of DNA someone shares. So it might say 1/2 sibling or possible cousin but then that is where the tree is reviewed. The DNA is just a part of it. But it can tell a lie, such as if the DNA of an offspring is so closely related that it was likely result of sibling/sibling or parent/sibling. These tests have uncovered so much of that, more than people assumed happened.

[@sconerboy9015]

You mentioned that health insurance companies cannot discriminate against you, but life insurance companies can.

[@recoveringsoul755]

Glad I already have life insurance then

[@tThisNThat]

Man...Circle went WAAAAAAY up since your last vid.

[@littledude5311]

You have a wonderful, clear, speaking voice. Information was concise and very helpful. Excellent presentation. Thanks.

[@becca53444]

I’ve only used 23andMe but I can vouch for how well my results matched all the records I have of my family’s ancestry. It even got some of the exact regions correct.

[@RomanKovbasyuk]

Any distant cousins found? Have you tried uploading your raw data from 23andMe to MyHeritage and FTDNA for free to get more matches?

[@bobbaker8263]

My brother went through Ancestry since we knew our grandparents came from the Isle of Wright he went through Ancestry. He found out we have dominant English, Irish & Scottish. He didn’t mention any cousin’s or second cousin’s. Anyway again thanks for the information.

[@tonybussey8763]

I used Ancestry and every few months I get an update. This apparently changes as they claim their methods and databases get better. So I was originally 56% English two years ago. This month I discovered that I am now 44% Scottish, 13% Irish and only 11% English, the rest being made up of Scandinavian countries. This makes me fairly skeptical as to the accuracy of these companies.

[@lilme7052]

Same with me at 23 and me. Mine has changed because their data has changed. I've gone from being British and germanic mostly to Iranian! what the hell?

[@MrBig913]

There was lots of migrations between these peoples within the british isles so it makes sense its breaking down what ethnic groups in England.

[@MrBig913]

@@lilme7052 Most likely more iranian people have taken the test so you are getting more info. Unless you have no iranian ancestry then thats quite strange.

[@lilme7052]

@@MrBig913 yeah so the more people take the test the more the results change. Its definitely not recent.

[@MrBig913]

@@lilme7052 yeah that's how it works. More people=more accurate results.

[@pinkfox5651]

Thank you Rwandaforever. It’s good to have your expert information on this whole dna testing fad. As I’ve told my adult children, I will not waste my money on it, especially as my eldest daughter had a 23 and me test and it didn’t show Italy in our history yet my mum was Welsh and her grandmother was Italian. Much love from England. ❤

[@carlgrove8793]

I also got a big surprise from the My Heritage test -- I expected to be a quarter English but wasn't, instead I was part Scandinavian! Seems that my grandmother must have had an affair with someone back around 1910! My father's ancestry was spot on, though.

[@mala3isity]

Thank you, Matt, for your continued research. CRI was my interest. I'm happy it was included. I didn't know about the other "lesser knowns" so including them was an eyeopener.

[@mytech6779]

Coming from a software and systems as well as having some legal and political background, your take on privacy is insanely naive. I'm not talking about cloning or targeting a single person, I'm referencing large scale data mining that is actually useful for some future totalitarians. Even if they are honest companies at this time the data bases are still sitting there for somebody to forcefully take in the future whether by change in law or by hacking. That said yes I use some known data mining services, but I make some minor effort to reduce my data trail in size and usefulness(less profitable).

[@Matisto1]

These videos always make me wonder if the companies afterwards become the owner of your DNA profile or that they don't keep records etc. I'd like that information in this type of videos.

[@UsefulCharts]

I address that at the end of this video.

[@Matisto1]

Thanks for the reply! Must have missed that part, good that you addressed it.

[@ill2daMAX]

You already know the answer. Don't listen to what anyone else tells you!

[@BlowinFree]

@@ill2daMAX 💯

[@tardwrangler]

@@ill2daMAX yes hello, I'd like to buy my DNA please

[@SmugglersWench]

Thanks for this video & insight. I've been trying to justify spending on a Nebula kit (they are having a huge sale this weekend) & feel that it would assist even more greatly in the creation of a Lazarus kit for my Dad. I also have many health problems, and a vast long-term interest in genealogy (20 years) & DNA (8 years). An interesting site that you can now upload raw data to is mytrueancestry, where they hold the genomes from archeological digs & ancestral royal seats, including all the pre-culloden clans. Very interesting.

[@miranduri]

I had an Ancestry and a 23andme tests. My brother did CRI. The inaccuracy of 23andme was incredible. Even the regions where they placed my parents on the maps were wrong.

[@nillyk5671]

23andme is actually pretty good while CRI sucks. How were your parents placed? Maybe you just didn't know about that part of your ancestry or they didn't know because they were lied to. Dna doesn't lie. Sometimes people just don't wanna accept the truth after having been told a different story their whole lives. You know how many people end up having a different dad than the dad that raised them.

[@capnjack7668]

@@nillyk5671 I grew up believing that my father's side of the family was Dutch. That's what my mom told me when I was a kid. In my 40s I discovered that my father's family was from the West Country in England. No Dutch in sight. Maybe she just didn't know, or maybe she assumed based on something she misunderstood.

[@Alejojojo6]

23andme is indeed very inaccurate. They told me I was most likely brown eyed... when in fact I have blue-light eyes. Its quite telling if they mess it up on such an easy trait to tell... what should I expect from more complex stuff? xD

[@Alejojojo6]

@@nillyk5671 23andme is indeed very inaccurate. They told me I was most likely brown eyed... when in fact I have blue-light eyes. Its quite telling if they mess it up on such an easy trait to tell... what should I expect from more complex stuff? xD

[@miranduri]

@@nillyk5671 I have been doing genealogy for over 40 years. Have been studying about dna for decades. So, please, go to a desk, sit and rethink what you just wrote.

[@DanSolo871]

I hope your friend, Jabari does LivingDNA since they have an extensive Africa ethnicity breakdown

[@thegamingking1555]

It's sad that Asia doesn't have as good ancestry test like Europe and N.A

[@theresurrection33]

For real. Asia needs more attention, its so interesting. Especially middle eastern

[@thegamingking1555]

@@theresurrection33 Yeh it will be fun too cause middle east has had alot of empires from different regions so it will have a good mix of DNA from different regions

[@thegamingking1555]

Me being from India I don't feel like doing DNA test from anyone I'll probably get 90 percentage Indian and some random stuff

[@gordowg1wg145]

Have you tried sending in multiple test samples to the same company, or batches to several companies, to see if the testing methods used were consistent?

[@jetsetjourneysofficial]

they aren't! 🤣

[@Cr7Micto]

for you to order you have to have an account, it is likely that they will indicate you as your own twin brother.

[@thedanyesful]

I like this idea. With the crazy amount of variation in the ancestry results it seems believable that some of these companies just don't have very good quality control.

[@MichaelRogerStDenis]

I tested with AncestryDNA twice, 5 years apart, and my results were consistent. Given my extensive family history going back to the 1400's, my DNA matches up, I have faith in the accuracy.

[@jetsetjourneysofficial]

@@MichaelRogerStDenis if you give a different name and address you will get different results

[@mattblumenberg6353]

You earned a like just for the premise. Good work!

[@brittanyr5294]

I purchased the Helix DNA kit through National Geographic back in 2018. The results then were super vague. It literally only told him he was 48%German and 52% French. He is adopted and wasn't ready to find relatives yet, but was always told that his birth father was Mexican... Anywho, I still would not recommend this to anyone.

[@LevelSmackcom]

Mexican first of all isn't a race it's a nationality. And i know a lot mexicans don't look at heritage, they just say I'm mexican. No good DNA test will say "mexican". Most mexicans are mixed races of Native Indian, Spanish (spain), and may even be other european races. So mexicans are muts just like americans but most have more native indian and spanish blood.

[@BumboLooks]

@@LevelSmackcom But if you're not even a bit native Mexican Indian you can't be called ethnically Mexican... Mexican is definitely an ethnicity.... It's extremely strange for a multi-generational Mexican family to be a German-French mix only. I think that adopted kid was a Human-trafficked child.

[@BumboLooks]

But if you're not even a bit native Mexican Indian you can't be called ethnically Mexican... Mexican is definitely an ethnicity.... It's extremely strange for a multi-generational Mexican family to be a German-French mix only. I think that adopted kid was a Human-trafficked child.../

[@LevelSmackcom]

@@BumboLooks you can still be called mexican if your roots are from mexico, mexican is a nationality. But you just have european dna blood lines. There's a lot of mexicans with european dna.

[@BumboLooks]

@@LevelSmackcom Almost all Mexicans are a mix of southern-European/Native Mexican and just native Mexicans. And none of them look like Europeans. It isn't hard to tell who is Mexican lol. Your "roots" are definitely not from Mexico if you are German-French only..... That kid was definitely Stolen or trafficked. Child slavery is huge in mexico.

[@siouxempirecoyote8174]

I took My Heritage, Ancestry, and 23 and Me. I personally liked ancestry best as a USA citizen. My heritage got my father side pretty far off the mark. My father is Lakota a Native American from the upper Midwest plains. My Heritage had put that DNA from South America. Clearly they don’t have very many Native Americans taking this test so I would not recommend it if you have Native DNA. Ancestry however not only pinpointed it correctly as Native American but also new the exact region of the United States that it was from.

[@nillyk5671]

South American dna IS NATIVE AMERICAN too.

[@siouxempirecoyote8174]

@@nillyk5671 never said it wasn’t but it isn’t even close to Lakota.

[@claudiagoenaga6193]

Also, some indigenous cultures can't take those tests due to their beliefs.

[@tjerkheringa937]

I hope that he tests the 'services' thoroughly. Because something tells me that he would probably get totally different results when he sends the same DNA sample three times under a different name. This looks pretty random. My guess is that they don't do DNA testing at all and just apply some fantasy algorithm.

[@latinaalma1947]

Being a well trained scientific researcher I started researching my geneaology in graduate school. I have traced my fathers geneaology bck to the early middle ages quite easily though it took me 6 mos of all day online research in retirement to get back that far. I have zero research on my mother becuas her surname name is too common...very frustrating but I will search every few years again because databases are expanding.

[@twingytwango6971]

AWESOME work and information! Thanks so much. This is exactly what I need.

[@phoenixx5092]

tellmegen also doesnt require subscription and ongoing fees, and apparently give you access to new information relevent to your profile as it is added, while almost all the others make you pay more.

[@MrS-pe6sd]

Yeah that’s a pretty solid strawman argument my man, it’s not about them just getting a hold of your DNA it’s about surreptitiously authorizing them to do whatever they want with it. But I get it, this is a commercial. Read the small print.

[@saifty1st]

I'm of South Asian origin so this is all a bit difficult. I have done MyHeritage, Ancestry and 23andMe. I wonder if there is one that caters more specifically to South Asians out there, if anyone knows please tell me, thanks!

[@nunyabidniz2868]

From what I understand, Ancestry is only going to improve over time as more people get tested, as their focus is upon building & refining their genealogical database. So it may just be a matter of patience & giving your Asian friends Ancestry tests as gifts at their major life events... 😉

[@cooliipie]

@@nunyabidniz2868 Correct. Just not much Asian data

[@traveler9199]

There are many Indian DNA companies that have a more precise database foe south Asian.

[@saifty1st]

@@traveler9199 Do you have any recommendations? Do any ship worldwide like the UK?

[@rexsceleratorum1632]

You can also download your raw data from the sites you've already used and upload to free or paid analysis-only websites. Or even do your own analysis for ethnicity percentages if you are willing to figure it out

[@daisyswimmer7728]

Very useful information. Thank you! My maternal grandmother emigrated from Germany when she was a teenager during WWI, so we always thought we had a lot of German in our blood. My brother took the Ancestry DNA test and it turns out there's no German DNA, but Scandinavian instead. I have been wondering if German and Scandinavian DNA were lumped together, but your video shows they aren't, at least not for 23 and Me and Ancestry. I sure wish all this info was available 40 years ago, I would have talked to my grandma about her heritage more. Her family must have emigrated from Scandinavia to German prior to WWI. I love history. Love your KZbin Channel!

[@ravanpee1325]

Nobody in Europe gives a shit about how much your DNA is. If she speaks the language and know the customs she would be considered German. Before 1919 her state would also be more important e.g. Bavaria, Saxony, Hamburg, etc. than the nationality.

[@daisyswimmer7728]

@@ravanpee1325 Why are you so angry at a stranger? Peace to you.

[@MovieMakingMan]

My Alabama friend used Ancestor and learned she was a close relative of everyone in the state (including livestock).

[@Larrypint]

Nice comparison in accuracy. And yes the Anglo Saxons are british but also germanic cause they go back to the angeln and Saxons from Germany Schleswig Holstein and also from the kimbrische island ( kimber tribe is also related ) the Kimber are connected with the Teutonen and Ambronen who came together at the Kimber wars in the 2-1th century BCE toegther with other tribes against the Roman empire. And since around 440 some Angeln Saxons, Frisians and Jutes settled over to Britain. Greetings from Saxony Anhalt in Germany.

[@pooterist]

Very interesting - particularly the part where you compare the accuracy between all the labs. Ideally, you'd also check repeatability - that is, the reports generated from multiple tests - even though, that would become quite expensive, quite quickly. I'm thinking about some test among wine tasting 'experts', who regularly fail to recognize the same wine when given repeated glasses . Maybe this is the cynic in me, but there seems to be no way to really evaluate how diligent these companies are in performing their tests.

[@jansenart0]

I'd describe CRI as "having in-app purchases".

[@joanneadahk124]

This is a good breakdown. Thank you. German and Brit are mixed for one main reason. During the transition from Alba to Scotland and then to England rule it took on many different heritages. And thanks to the vikings many Danes and Norwegians ended up in Scotland. So it is because of that that the computer is confused. Before the King Stuart died there was a big debate over who would be the heir. A 10 year old girl from.. i think 🤔 Germany was to be queen. But she died of some sickness in route. Not until the current Queens family murdered the last heir did it "stay in the family " in the old ways it bounced around the tree. It's a pretty tragic story. Told best by a Mr. Bruce Fumey. He has a KZbin channel called Scottish history tours. I love learning from him. He is a comedian so the truth is less miserable. I feel more a part of there "home" now than ever.

[@mrorlov2706]

Wow this is a very detailed review, exactly what i been looking for.

[@stevenbastian3882]

Love your presentation and the graphics!