Palace Papers 8: Queen Elizabeth & Charles' Relationship at an All-Time Low

[@debrawhite751]

Brilliant analysis, especially on the late Queen and her humility. She showed it in so many ways. Everything she did was to show an example and to unite the people. She never delved into anything the slightest bit political, although she was an intelligent and insightful woman who I'm sure had very strong opinions - that, too, I think, showed her humility. She was brilliant, bitingly funny, wise and kind. I somehow equate her loss as with losing my own mother, and even now I get teary eyed thinking that they are both gone.

[@Jess_Connell]

You’ve given a great summary of such a great woman. I’m sorry you’ve lost your mother. 😢 praying you still have a very merry Christmas! 🎄 ❤️

[@susanbartone1347]

I think feelings about others can be complicated...you can like them at times and feel appalled at other behaviors.

[@Jess_Connell]

Yes! It’s so true! People are complicated, relationships are complicated, and you’re absolute right- we ourselves are complicated and changeable.

[@EllieD.Violet]

​@@Jess_ConnellAs for the Y2K non-chaos ..... it only didn't happen because due to plenty of software preparations and 'mending' in due time, based on the warnings 😊. For once, plenty of crying 'wolf!' resulted in building strong fences that kept the wolf out. Early good morning greetings from Bavaria 🇪🇺 (5:33 AM)

[@Jess_Connell]

@ good call!

[@deborahhaddrick3842]

Hi Jess. This was such an interesting episode. For me personally as an Australian making a decision for becoming a republic during the referendum, I felt we were not given a clear model of what the alternative form of government would look like. So it’s better to stick with what you know. I’m really enjoying your presentation and commentary particularly through the lens of your faith and moral principles. Have a wonderful Christmas with your family.

[@Jess_Connell]

@@deborahhaddrick3842 thanks for sharing that! It’s interesting to learn about other nations from the people themselves rather than a textbook. ❤️👍🏻 Glad to hear you’re enjoying the book!

[@CarolFremel-my4hs]

As an Australian I could imagine what the alternative would be like😬 so it wasn’t a difficult decision

[@EllieD.Violet]

@@CarolFremel-my4hs Now, now, not so pessimistic, young lady 😉! You managed to get rid of a few of your most inept and fishy politicians by sending them as 'SpAds' to the then UK government. As for a democratically elected 2nd chamber, no need to re-invent the wheel, you might model your version on the German or Finnish systems, both of which are very democratic and efficient, as in having real power (unlike the UK's HoL, which isn't but a Potemkin Village of a supposedly functioning 2nd chamber). Best greetings from Bavaria 🇪🇺

[@megansovik5629]

Interesting start to segment on QE11 who is famous for her sense of humour. Tina Brown is delivering a page turner so far. Hilarious about Ozzy O and the bat and Queens response.

[@Jess_Connell]

Yes, So fun!!

[@Cynthia-nm6tg]

I’ve never heard the Osbourne bat story before. My music teachers never even allowed us to chew gum during a performance. 🤣 Amazing what I’ve learned on this channel. 👍😂

[@Jess_Connell]

@ 🤣😉

[@Jassyangelina]

We are the same age!! Guess what I got the other day. A slinky!!!! In its original box As I played around with it my friends younger kids were in awe hahahaha😮😂

[@Jess_Connell]

😆🎉 fun!

[@MR2spyder100]

For fun its the best of the toys! 😂🎵🎶🎵

[@Jassyangelina]

@MR2spyder100 right???? Haha

[@nopereradicator]

We will never know how the Royal Siblings feel about Queen Camilla now.

[@ryvirkelley5047]

It's sad so much history was wiped away. I bet it all but destroyed their purpose. I wonder what happened to the estates.

[@Jess_Connell]

@@ryvirkelley5047 it’s the way of westernization- that titled positions would eventually lose their hold and give way to merit/democracy. Makes me wonder if there are any honest accounts written of the actual substantive changes that occurred downstream of this changeover.

[@MsBackstager]

Paul McCartney's song on the Queen: Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl But she doesn't have a lot to say Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl But she changes from day to day I want to tell her that I love her a lot But I gotta get a bellyful of wine Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl Someday I'm going to make her mine, oh yeah Someday I'm going to make her mine

[@Ellie-Mae]

Hi! 🌞This video pops up with perfect timing this morning!!😊 I am really enjoying your presentation of this book. Enjoy the day! 🇨🇦⛄️🎅

[@Jess_Connell]

So glad!

[@ceebee223]

You could be Jennifer Garner’s sister! Great information presented in an engaging way.

[@Jess_Connell]

Oh my goodness that’s so sweet. 🫣🤗 thank you!! 😊 Glad you enjoyed this video!

[@elizabethannegrey6285]

There will never be another to compare to Queen Elizabeth. Known for her ability to respond with humour, dignity, or even a bland but neutralising remark such as “interesting”. One incident which I feel demonstrates her unflappable nature occurred at an agricultural show. An apparatus which puzzled Her Majesty elicited the question “What is that?”, whereupon her blushing host explained that it was an artificial vagina, used to eliminate taking a bull to a cow. “Oh, silly me” was her response, and the tour continued. The Queen was a true country woman at heart, and whatever carping criticisms may be levelled, it must be remembered that she did not ask for the job, and would undoubtedly have preferred a private life.

[@Jess_Connell]

Truly remarkable woman. Great story; you’re right- her love for country things and quietude shown through .

[@EllieD.Violet]

@@elizabethannegrey6285 I strongly suspect that her remarks containing the term 'interesting' was her polite version of 'WTF??? That's gawdawful!'

[@Cynthia-nm6tg]

🤣👍😂👍🤣

[@Jess_Connell]

@@EllieD.Violet 😂😝🫨😧🤭🫣

[@Jassyangelina]

Omg yay almost 6k! 10k soon girlfriend! ❤🎉

[@Jess_Connell]

Awww yes I’m excited. 😊 So thankful for the way a community has formed here- heading into 2025, I feel very grateful!

[@Jassyangelina]

As an artist that painting could be worse. He tried. Lol crown 👑 was painted well.

[@Jess_Connell]

Haha yeah. The crown does look nice. Clearer than her face, it seems.

[@MR2spyder100]

It was L Freud's known style, and se did look grumpy a lot in those days; she even said so herself (somewhere). It was only in the past few decades that she started smiling more and that's what we remember now.

[@Jess_Connell]

@ that’s fair!

[@raydavison4288]

The role of government is well summed up in the preamble to the United States Constitution. The preamble is holy writ in my view. 😊

[@Jess_Connell]

I read it every fall with my high school government students. It's a fantastic summary for sure.

[@debrawhite751]

@@Jess_Connell Jess, you're a teacher on top of being mom to all those kids and hosting this channel?! Where do you find the time?!

[@Jess_Connell]

@@debrawhite751 I homeschooled almost exclusively for about 16 years. We now use a homeschool co-op as the primary source of coursework for our kiddos. I teach classes at the co-op and it works out to basically cover the cost of the classes my kids need. So I can teach the things I’m good at (writing, government and public speaking) … and the kids can get all the things they need that I’m not the best at (geometry, chemistry, sign language, etc).

[@Jess_Connell]

@@debrawhite751 and yes, life is a wee bit crazy but it’s never boring around here! 🤪😁

[@debrawhite751]

​@@Jess_Connell I love the home school co-op concept! My niece's kids were involved in that several years ago. It's wonderful.

[@rikkiharcourt3868]

House of Lords….meant to deliver wisdom, tempered experience and reason. But of, course in today’s world only the young know anything of value…………and look where we are now. Perfection appears unattainable from wherever you begin.

[@carmelsileo6520]

I agree. Those estates provide homes and work to thousands s of people, and their ties to the community and country go back thousands of years. I don't know, not an expert on the subject, but agree with your take.

[@ryvirkelley5047]

Harry acts exactly like Diana did. 🙄 From what it seems. 😬

[@EllieD.Violet]

@@ryvirkelley5047 I've come to the conclusion that William seems to have inherited Diana's good qualities and Harry inherited her bad ones. Sad, but true. Only my opinion, though. Best greetings from Bavaria 🇪🇺

[@ryvirkelley5047]

@@EllieD.Violet 💯Greetings from Texas!

[@EllieD.Violet]

@@ryvirkelley5047 Ah, occasionally I visit your state for business related meetings - I work for a US IT/Internet giant 🙂.

[@ryvirkelley5047]

@EllieD.Violet Oh how cool! I hope you enjoy it 😊 I must admit it's gone downhill the 5-10 years. I've seen pictures of Bavaria and it's beautiful 💯❤️

[@ryvirkelley5047]

"interesting" is too kind 😬😧 But correct 😂. My stepmother used to be an Ozzy groupie. She said she wasn't he was her friend. 🤷‍♀️Idk I wasn't there 😂

[@nancymeehan3874]

I wish Camilla and Charles had married back in the 1970's. Dianna would have been spared all that heartache.

[@rosiebottom3870]

True. But Camilla was chasing APB for years and not in love with Charles at that point. If Charles has proposed back then, I wonder if she would have accepted?

[@Kathleen-zn9oe]

Diana wasn’t the little hard done by wife and Charles the ogre. The housekeepers diaries clearly show that Diana was the first to stray and Charles’ friends were concerned for his emotional state and so Camilla became more involved and they resumed their relationship. Not that either of them seemed to be overly concerned about the boys. William was the one that Diana unloaded to while he was a young teenager. What a heavy load for him. He did well to take his time choosing his wife

[@Jess_Connell]

@@Kathleen-zn9oe It's appalling the way she used her son as her own personal trauma counselor. I have experienced the pull to "age up" the oldest child... to assume they are wiser, stronger, smarter, more mature, than the age they're at... even still- some things ought to be out of bounds to discuss with your children when they are still growing up.

[@carmelsileo6520]

​@@Jess_ConnellYes, it was totally inappropriate for her to talk about her love life with her children. I've also read Tina Brown's book about Diana, and I see her as someone constantly bewildered by the fact that her beauty, fame, and dazzling charms failed her when it came to finding true love. From all accounts, one man who did deeply love her was the doctor she dated in her final years. She deeply loved him, too, but Diana made the mistake of thinking that he, too, wanted the glamour and celebrity that she thrived in. On the contrary, he hated it, and that's partly why they split. If she could have let go of that drive to be a star, she might have found happiness.

[@Jess_Connell]

@ many celebrities seem to find their true and lasting love when they embrace a quiet life out of the spotlight with a “nobody” that people have never heard of and rarely see.

[@MsBackstager]

Y2K was much ado about nothing.

[@Jess_Connell]

@@MsBackstager 😆 sure was!

[@Cynthia-nm6tg]

I remember giving an award for secretary’s day to help ease the changes…..2 tubes of KY 🤣

[@sallymiller6139]

That image of the queen looks like something out of Spitting Image Artist was maybe high.on.one thing or another Really.awful

[@Jess_Connell]

@@sallymiller6139 really dark and jaded looking. I found her response insightful.

[@cliftafrizzell4687]

He made her look like something out of a Rob Zombie movie!

[@Pam-xx2ie]

Have never heard the entire story about Ozzy Osborne. I’ve been on the Eye. I agree with the Queen, very touristy!

[@Jess_Connell]

@@Pam-xx2ie it’s funny to me that she knew not just who he was but that off-color story. Very fascinating woman.

[@oonaghmarguerite6752]

Prince Charles as a widower was available. Camilla, while divorced was not considered available by the Church of England. Her former husband was still living. That was still a problem for Prince Charles. One day he would be Supreme Governor Of the C of E.

[@Jess_Connell]

Ah! Helpful distinction; thank you! That was why it had to be a civil ceremony, I guess?

[@oonaghmarguerite6752]

@Jess_Connell My problem is I once read that as Supreme Governor of the C of E all Monarchs must be married in the Church of England. I was reading this in the 2 years before the then Prince Charles's wedding to Camilla. I've not found any government or church regulations that alter that premise. So, I continue to look for either verification of what I read or new procedures that have been implemented by the LQEII. She did arrange to drop the ban against marrying a Catholic & thereby losing your place in the LOS. Children of such a union must be raised as C of E. I will continue to research until I find a resolution to the quandary. 🤔 I'm enjoying the reading. 💖

[@oonaghmarguerite6752]

@Jess_Connell Yes, and why the Queen & Prince Philip did not attend that ceremony. They joined the new couple at the church for the Repentance & Blessing ceremony.

[@ryvirkelley5047]

I adore QE2 ❤. From what I understand. King Charles'cancer is incurable but manageable. Lady C updates what she can.