Are TRANGIA CLONES Better Than the REAL THING?!

[@donnyo65]

I still use my original Trangia - bought for my 18th birthday and Im 56 this year! All I have replaced is the O ring - once! I have other stoves but my Trangia is my go to for solo camping, cycle touring etc.

[@kewsoner7924]

Scandinavian stuff rules, I used my Trangia for 24 years now.....and and a little tip for the creator, I wouldn't even know what you are talking about when it comes to the pronation, it's not just off but completely non understandable! I'm not Swedish, but I speak and understand Swedish! Yes us Europeans speak multiple languages, personally I speak 5!

[@dekaaizer2550]

Just came back from a 2 month trip to Patagonia, used the same trangia there ad my father used when he went there (35 years ago)

[@dimitriosfotopoulos3689]

That is impressive, Donnieo65. I have my dad's old white gas Coleman stove that he used car camping back in the 50's & 60's. 5 years ago when it developed an issue, you could still get parts for it, and with a simple repair, it worked just fine. My buddy has an old original Svea 123 stove he still he uses for motorcycle touring. You can't fake quality and the classics are called that for a reason! Buying a Trangia 27 set for bicycle touring, and hopefully in 20 or 30 years, one of my grandnieces or grandnephews will still be using it, and calling it a classic.

[@AquaTech225]

@@kewsoner7924 than how is it than big man

[@stevenkimsey7039]

@@kewsoner7924 very good

[@BCVS777]

The little handle on the simmer ring is helpful.

[@mrkraemer77722]

Thanks for the revirew! The clones took slightly longer to reach the boil, but also lasted slightly longer. The first thought that brings up to me is that the Trangia is burning slightly more fuel for a hotter flame, but uses its fuel a little faster. Another thought would be that the clones might not have wicks at all, so the Trangia gets to a bloom and more effective temperature faster, but has a small amount of fuel left in the wick that it can't burn and so goes out a few seconds faster. In any case, these kinds of time differences aren't going to make or break a deal for me, but I certainly can't see spending more for the Esbit or Solostove than the Trangia. The Redcamp with its included pot stand is worth thinking about. And there are multiple other clone versions with differing accessories and prices that it's still a wide open playing field.

[@fashionskiller]

Well, there won't be any fuel left in the wick. It wicks it to the place where there's less fuel ergo outside. It's exactly the task of the wick to wick it out.

[@peterdd4994]

In the battle between the Trangia vs Esbit stoves. In my finding, the Esbit stove is more fuel efficient ie burns longer than the Trangia, but I believe that the Trangia burns hotter. So the Trangia is my go to stove.

[@in0124]

I agree trangia is a good stove but it blasts through the fuel , not many people mention this

[@hb9145]

Yes, this is a big deal in Scandinavian winters.

[@alangauld6079]

I used a Trangia 27K kit for years but eventually switched to the gas burner. Eventually, I bought an ultralight gas stove(~1 Oz) and I've now sold the Trangia. Recently I bought one of the cheap clones because alcohol works better in winter. What goes around comes around! Interesting review along with your fuel and stands reviews. Good material, thanks.

[@billyhooks99]

When I purchased my alcohol stove I went with Trangia. They have withstood test of time

[@BingWatcher]

Likewise❗ 🤗🔆

[@motohobo]

Yep, the original and still the best. There are cheaper versions and I prefer the knock off version simmer rings. But I totally trust my trangia burners. I've bought two different brand cheaper knock off versions just to see what they were like and they both cracked/split after bugger all use compared to my Trangias. Trust Trangia😁

[@wurlabyscott]

Esbit here, like the simmer fold out lever but I buy trangia from Firebox version that's soldered.

[@Eowyn77]

One more argument for the Trangia is that it's manufactured in Sweden according to highest ecological standards.

[@jeschinstad]

And workers get decent pay.

[@StayReal02]

Yeah, as a Swede, I would actually buy my stuff only from Trangia to support that factory in Trångsviken. They deserve it! Very cool that a company wants to stay inside Sweden instead of moving to China. Fjällräven moved a lot of their stuff to Asia for example :/

[@jeschinstad]

@@StayReal02: I'm Norwegian and I would never buy anything but the Swedish original. You might need a Norwegian consultant to tie your shoe laces, but the things you know how to do, boy do you know how to do them. :) (I love your people and so say we all)

[@maroon2k]

If you buy a Swedish made product (Trangia), the workers are not treated like slaves, the factory doesn't spew toxic chemicals into the air and water, and the company tax goes to a democratic nation who will spend some of it on its armed forces that are your ally, not your enemy...

[@emerycreek8016]

Amen!

[@armycavin]

Hahahaha says the guy using the pedophile site

[@Jimmynitro76]

When I'm camping time is not a thing, so burn or boil time mean nothing to me.... I'm just happy I woke up one more time and can enjoy the woods

[@1990westfalia]

Hello, I've watched a couple of your videos regarding the Trangia. In this video, timing the bloom of the stove would be nice. Since the Trangia is most effective with the flame bloom, this might be a good tool for determination. You do start each boil test at same time of each stove. Nicely done. Skillet

[@linedwell]

I've never had any other but Trangia. It's a bit discoloured now, a bit used and has travelled.many miles. But i still love it, wouldn't swap it.

[@DannyB-cs9vx]

The performance difference may be the fuel and water amounts. You could get an accurate weigh scale pretty cheap, and weigh the fuel and water being used. Nice video. For practical purposes, these are the same. In theory it is all about the heat energy in the fuel. If one stove burned quicker, it would burn for less time.

[@Jaxon1776]

Nice video Big Ern. I've had similar experiences with the clone stoves and prefer the original Trangia. Seems like I saw a post where someone cut a China clone in half and discovered there was no internal wick. That would account for the weight difference and boil times. I do like the little folding tab on simmer lid that comes on the clones because its keeps your hand farther away when you use it to snuff out a lit stove. It's finally good hiking weather in LA. I look forward to the videos.

[@aaronginther3831]

Hello Ernie, Great video, its very hard to beat the original trangia. You nailed it in video.

[@BinManSays87]

Ernie you understand that in China those clone production companies offer free printing/engraving logo when bought in bulk orders so all those stoves all these stoves could have been made in the same place and the difference in finish could just be a different batch/type of brass

[@mikefule330]

If he published a video saying that they obviously all came from the same factory, that might conceivably have legal implications for the channel, and he would have no way of proving that they did. Pointing out that they appear identical in every respect, so much so that he nearly mixed them up with each other, is a statement of facts and there is no risk. We all get the message. :) I work for a company that sells products by two manufacturers and the differences are only colour, logo and marketing. Neither company owns the factory/factories where they are made...

[@dmchang1009]

In China, if someone get a good product, other factories would copy it to sell many companies. There are also a lot of traders sell these to other traders with different package & brands. In result, you can get a lot of copy cats from many factories.

[@lapicker1010]

A big concern when I’m buying a knock-off is if it’s gonna leak. I know some feel you shouldn’t store fuel in the stove, but I’ve done it for decades and don’t plan to stop. If you get one that leaks, the only cure is to solder seal it, and that’s a big messy job that requires ninja soldering skills. Btw, fyi, Firebox sells solder sealed Trangias for a very reasonable extra charge.

[@trbrmc1187]

My first alcohol stove was ALOCS and looks exactly like the redcamp-esbit-solo. I think I paid $8 or $9 on amazon. Still got it. Works great. Been using my batchstovez gram weenie pro predominantly - $14 on the batchstovez site. It’s the boiled water champ in my opinion. Love the videos! Keep it up.

[@Rspenesmit]

I also have the Alocs and along with my Fancy Feast with simmer ring in all of my tests these 2 are by far the best, I include baking in my tests as I love baked bread and muffins and or cornbread for my beans on the trail, and these 2 are the best overall.

[@anndebaldo7381]

Love my Trangias (note it's plural!)

[@77goanywhere]

I know this is an older video, but still very helpful. I only just bought a new Trangia 25, and was going to use a cheap chinese burner like toe ones shown, but I just felt like I wanted to go with the all genuine product. Maybe it's just emotion, but I just feel better using the genuine Trangia. 😁

[@edsiefker1301]

You can do some fun math with these numbers. 1oz of methanol is 28.35g. The molar mass is 32.04g/mol. So, 1oz of methanol is .8848mol. The enthalpy of combustion of methanol is −715.0kJ/mol, so 1oz of methanol releases 632.6kJ of energy. If the Trangia burns for 557s, that's 1.14kJ/s. Over the 275s it takes to boil a cup of water, that's 314kJ One cup of water is 240ml, which weighs 240g. You're heating it from 67F to 212F, for a change of 145degrees F. Celcius degrees are 9/5ths the size of F degrees, so that's a change of 80.5C. Water has a specific heat of 4.186J/g. 240g requires 1005J to raise in temperature by 1C. 80.5C requires 80900J, or 80.9kJ. Finally, 80.9kJ required divided by the 314kJ consumed gives us a 25.8% efficiency for the Trangia stove.

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

Wow. Nice explanation.

[@PaleoHikerMD]

Wow.... :)

[@marcelbuter2434]

Was wondering what the difference was between the Trangia and the Esbit. After two years of usage these ar my findings: Esbit just gave up performance, outer ring got loose and started leaking. Inside is a cotton cloth as in the Trangia. Burning of the Trangia is more equal. Thread is different so I had to look very closely not to mix up using both stoves. Simmer ring deployabillity: The Esbit option looks better, but I find it to long to handle. I use all the Firebox stoves myself. The 3" has little room for fidgeting. Cold weather option from Trangia is astonishing! What a power! Using a full surroundig wind screen improves the performance a lot btw! The only stove competing with the Trangia is my Toaks. Wonder of simplicity! My light weight option in the Firestove freestyle Ti triangle configuration. Who uses alcohol without the nasty bitrex? Found out I do lick my fingers while cooking. The bitrex destroys every tasty meal.....

[@Tribalwish2012]

The Trangia is $20 on amazon now for just the stove. I went with one called Keweis that had a pot stand with it (because I didn't have one) for 13.99. Not arrived yet, but I hope it works alright.

[@karinhart489]

Watching this at the end of 2022. The genuine Trangia is $26. The Ebit is $23. The Redcamp is $18, & some cheap knock-off of the knock-off is $13. Thanks for the video comparison.

[@5USgRWFH]

two thoughts: 1. I'd like to see how long each stove took to bloom before adding the pot. 2. Test the boil time with a lid. great video. quality and content = 👍👍

[@cristenbowman]

I have the esbit alcohol stove set, love it. Packs down nice and I have a fry pan.

[@tonyubr]

Great vid as always but in my opinion I would favour gas on a windy mountain side everytime and the only alcohol I'll be using is going in my belly. 👍

[@Phantom8Bit]

I have an ALOCS alcohol stove that appears to be another ESBIT like model. The ALOCS sells for around $15 with pot stand, but mine was around $12 a few years ago. The pot stand is similar to the Trangia Mini stand, but it's made of a different metal. I'd say it's a pretty comparable deal to the Redcamp Mini combo. The Redcamp pot stand is probably lighter since the pot stand has so many cutouts, but since the bottom of the ALOCS is enclosed, it could also be used for solid fuel tabs. There is another stove with what appears to be the same pot stand as the Redcamp for a few dollars less. It would be interesting to see if the boil time improved on one of these stoves if the holes were enlarged slightly.

[@michaelhernandez410]

Just got back from a camping trip. I used the Redcamp with a folding wind screen, and a covered pot. I boiled enough water for a cup of tea in about 5 minutes. I was surprised at how vigorously the water boiled. I have similar results with my Esbit alcohol stove. MSR pocket rocket is usually about 3 to 4 minutes. In especially cold weather, I use my 40-year-old Svea 123R. It takes longer, but that includes preheating to build pressure. Alcohol and butane stoves don't like cold weather, but I don't get much of that where I live. I can recommend all 3 types, depending on the season. Of course, the alcohol stoves are much lighter, so I use them in warm weather.

[@3bears]

it's worth checking out the stainless steel version by Tatonka too. it has a slightly larger fuel capacity but doesn't heat stuff quite as fast

[@kevlahead7278]

About 20 years ago I bought a Trangia from a car boot for £0.20 (20p) Don't think the seller knew what he'd go. Been using on my camping trips for years. Just one point re boiling times. I'm wondering if the original enclosed Trangia burner holder would be more efficient as there might be less heat loss around the sides?

[@rocknh68]

Hope cleanup is going good for you. Glad to see you're still getting videos out.

[@titanpreparedness]

More stove videos. You always seems to think of things no one thinks about when it comes to stoves and alcohol burners. Hope clean up is going well. Stay safe

[@zzip0]

I first got a Chinese clone. It did not light very well, but this could be because it was very new. But then I closed it.... and could never open the stove again. So I had to throw it. Then I got Trangia... and I never had any problem with it. I got it for 3 times the price, but it works, the other did not.

[@simon4043]

Never screw the lid on a hot stove. The O ring can melt and glue them together. Keep the snuffer lid on until it cools

[@zzip0]

@@simon4043 Never done such thing. It was cold.

[@bethelteshuwah9824]

I really like your tests helped me in deciding what one to order I went for the less expensive because the I could afford to order a wind screen. Thankyou for all your help!!

[@alf3553]

I love my Trangia burners but one I soldered & it seems Ok, my second one has several cracks on the body & lid, I have a 3rd one still in the box (came in a kit). So do these knock offs crack. I wish Trangia would make a Titanium with a ceramic liner. 🔥

[@JimRodgers]

I have three Trangia spirit stoves. Nothing but the best for me. :) I use them all the time when I'm out fishing or in the woods camping/backpacking.

[@nikondgo]

I don't care very much about a few seconds more burning time. What I do care about is weight and simmering. All the knock-offs are lighter (not by much) than the original, but let's face it - nobody who cares about weight would drag around Trangia. Simmering - all the knock-offs come with a nice wire handle on the simmering cap, which makes enormous difference in use. I've spent really long time (months and months) cooking on a Trangia and that little piece of wire is what makes the whole difference - you can remove easily the cap, fine-tune the opening and put it back. That is also the one easy thing to improve on the Trangia burner, yet they stubbornly refuse to do that. That's why, although I also like the old brass look of the original, I buy the knock-offs. Thanks for the video, and keep that enthusiasm alive!

[@drxym]

Hardly seems like the hardest thing to copy and do a good job when making the copy. One thing however is that a lot of the knockoffs are just stainless steel plated with a bronze effect. Probably doesn't make a whole lot of difference but probably worth noting.

[@markluke8447]

Nice work Earnie thank you for sharing.

[@Revelation13-8]

How long does a fully filled up burner last ?

[@theirishoutdoorcook1207]

I burned 2 and half 0z of spirits to boil 2 litres of water in a 11lb heavy stainless pot in over just 35 mins using the Civilian Trangia. Love that little burner.

[@develentsai3215]

The no name brand same factory as solo stove only cost USD6 in Taiwan include shipping fees from China

[@EattinThurs61]

For cold weather Trangia or the Swedish Army model, the military model is a bit bigger & heavier but better in extreme cold.

[@anniegetyrgun8741]

I’m a complete beginner. Just got a Trangia 25 set. What different fuels can I use?

[@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234]

Very good test, thanks for showing us. Take care.

[@rogberube6422]

Excellent review. Thanks for sharing. :)

[@Thekidisalright]

Am I the only one who bought a magnetic extension tool to place or remove the lid so I can keep a nice distance from the fire and get the job done

[@brianferris1233]

I have the same alcohol stove shown at 1:00 minute (have a hard time finding denatured alcohol but I can use other type of alcohol so all isn't lost)

[@BingWatcher]

📢 Mr.Cook, a very nicely done job and say hi to Max!😁 🔆〰...🙄 ⚠ 🤔 〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰 ➡Thanks again, Ernie❗ 🏁🏁🏁

[@MadsWorld34]

i just bought a copy cat it looks just like the copy cats you used. i just hope it works as good. cant wait to go camping and use my propane one until it gets empty so i can trash it.

[@denofearthundertheeverlast5138]

I don't like that the Trangia doesn't come with the simmer ring handle but has the spot for one, so I added the chinese copy to my cart for purchase later on next month.. with pot stand/ windscreen, lid with gasket, simmer ring with handle and a drawstring sack for $14.95

[@patriciaribaric3409]

I would imagine the Alocs also came from the same factory. I love my Trangias although I opted for the Bulin burner less than 1/3rd the price.

[@tolik5929]

I have a Chinese knock off , $12 on ebay . Use rubbing alcohol in it . Works fine , I put it in my 1930's sterno folding stove for storms , if the power goes out .

[@BosomBuddyCreations]

nice video. Helped me make the decision to buy the trangia.

[@pastieman13]

You have missed out on one that should be included. The Swedish army one. Yes is a bit bigger. Can be picked up cheap. When filled will burn forever. My favourite does take a bit longer to plume in my experience. Found the cheap knockoffs to actually plume quicker though.

[@martink9785]

I have two trangia burners, one is older and I got it used but it has cracks around the thread and collar. Unsure why and it seems to be a problem with some. I doubt the copies will guarantee to not do that. I'll still buy trangia

[@georgesheffield1580]

Ethanol seems to work better , isopropyl will work but is very sooty , 151 rum also works well too.

[@christoferjamesdechavez9510]

Always a pleasure watching your videos. Only one thing makes me wonder. Whats in between the walls of the alcohol burners. If Im correct there is some sort of fiber or something that winks the alcohol. Like the the evernew titanium.

[@livinglife8333]

Perlite or good old pink insulation also works inside these stoves.

[@tedsamuels3203]

Thanks for the heads up.

[@stuartcrane9409]

How about a modded trangia with carbon fibre in the centre?

[@XxOpiesGearReviewsxX]

I like how fast the Trangia primes though. I don't know if the RedCamp has the internal wick. I have both and they both work well but the Trangia is just a little bit better as far as performance. I'll pass on the solo stoves and save the money. It's all the same. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them are made in the same factory.

[@trangia12]

Trangia is made in Sweden. Esbit is made in China. Where do you want your money going?

[@wiltswonder]

You know what they say about fools and their money

[@SimonBrisbane]

Thank you, I’d rather feed a Swede! The Chinese are shameless in their copying. We are feeding a communist beast by doing any business with them.

[@TesterBoy]

@@wiltswonder Having lived in communist China, I would not buy any products from that criminal regime. So your comment is absolutely irrelevant to this product review.

[@anandarochisha]

Chicoms now have 350 concentration camps. My money ain't supporting praying = prison regimes.

[@Jimmynitro76]

Not china!

[@nigelgunn322]

Something that bugs me with all these "Trangia style" alcohol stove reviews: there's never any mention that Trangia supplies a whole range og cook sets/windshield combinations. The spirit burner is just part of a range of more useful products.

[@davidbrighton6521]

Great Job :)

[@shawndoyle6460]

I had the Esbit, came with a cook pot and stand... then pot and stand are great the Stove only lasted 20 burns... and had corrosion and leaked fuel...

[@blackhawk2429]

Thanks for the comparison.. I have decided to go for Trangia. I have a question for you. Can i burn solid fuel tablet in Trangia stove?

[@alexoja2918]

How the hell do you not make a graph for info like this

[@squirrelcovers6340]

I bought the $11.99 one, it's just as good as the others.

[@tirmikj5]

said there is cotton layer inside trangia burner??? coton?

[@jackvoss175]

The price of Heet is high compared to denatured alcohol. What advantages do you find that makes it worth the extra money? Thanks. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@WhstlblwrBlastingEpsteinsILK]

What could be wrong with the stove that it won't bloom & flames come out of the multiple small holes? I don't want to trash this stove if I can fix something. 🤷

[@karnovtalonhawk9708]

Gday, I am no mountain climber so not worried about burn time at altitude or anything. After watching a few reviews it seems most penny style stoves are about the same really for the average camper, so i would put it down to how much you want to pay. That said high cost does tend to get you a better product. I was going to make one out of coke cans but i also needed a camp cook set. So when i saw a set of nesting pots and frypan that came with a stand and wind shield, all sturdy aluminium for 60 Aust i just got that. It burns ok, But i dont think the stove has much cotton or absorbant in the walls st least it seems to me that it should soak up more Could just be me. Burns for about 25 minutes.

[@clinnyboy]

Similar burn times BUT only one isn't Chinese! That alone makes a difference for me.

[@armchairbushcraft2164]

What about losing fuel over time when screw cap is on? Which is better?

[@GustavoHenrique-dm7lh]

thank you

[@Dutcharmytent]

Interesting content

[@outsidethepyramid]

This is great. :) What fuel did you use ?

[@wompastompa3692]

My Arizona penny can mogs these and only cost me $2.01.

[@a3a14613]

Trangia with a simmer ring from a copycat with a handle so I don't have to stick my hand in the flame to extinguish.

[@aparecidomiranda6637]

Ótimo vídeo Parabéns 👍👍🇧🇷 Parabéns

[@aparecidomiranda6637]

Aqui não tem isso no Brasil 👍🇧🇷 kkk

[@UncleDon226]

Trangia VS three identical knockoffs made in the same Chinese factory, before being rebranded.

[@alzathoth]

i really wish the trangia came in a titanium version.

[@DOBAVE]

The only difference I found was that a couple of cheap stove holders from china would hold the mildly thinner Chinese stoves with out modification but needed a tiny shave for the Trangia to fit.............Fine if you have the time and tools...,.May be only me?!

[@kidda74]

I have one I made out of a couple of beer cans 😁👍

[@opietaylor411]

I couldn't find it in the video or the comments, does anyone know what model the box is that he used? Or a good one to use with my trangia?

[@sherryseher7736]

I believe it’s called a Nano firebox . I’ve seen them at two price points on Amazon, depending upon the material of which they are made.

[@MBergyman]

Are there any lightweight aluminum versions of the trangia which you have tried?

[@Ma_Ba]

Titanium alc stoves may suit you.

[@cpcnw]

Wish I'd kept my Tatonka stainless :(

[@peterpuck219]

Made in Sweden or in China.Sweden for me thanks.

[@59chevt]

No heated arguments here............lol

[@robertwebb5586]

I have both Trangia and Redcamp The Redcamp does have a wick.....

[@rogerlyngeng6903]

Trangia for me 🙂

[@marcomcdowell8861]

Same factory puts out the copy stoves, the company that orders them just slaps their name on it. You see it with everything from these to camping chairs. I'm dumb and kept buying pricier things until my brain unlocked and realized that all of it is manufactured by the same people. So I go with the lower price and they work fine. I do have a Trangia though and that's for legit bike touring or camping, the knock-offs are in emergency bags and at work just in case.

[@alphapatriot8405]

Thnxs

[@s.kertanguy8433]

With a lid on the cup it would take less time ;).

[@georgesheffield1580]

The Origo burns at about 6000 btu's

[@ricdonato4328]

Okay, three years late to this video. Very much enjoy your videos, it is the background music that I dislike. Many folks have hearing difficulties, thus the background music quickly become extremely annoying making it difficult to follow along with your otherwise excellent presentation.

[@couchcamperTM]

I was laughing when Esbit copied the Trangia years ago. But at least they added the handle for the simmer ring. And now they are copying the Esbit but without the handle. (And get just a Trangia) Crazy World.

[@I..cast..fireball]

all are pretty much the same, just get whatever you find a good deal on.

[@jheighten7568]

Why dont you open the redcamp so you will have no doubt of what is inside.

[@marcelomandiola2530]

SWEDEN 🇸🇪👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯