Keyleth roll natural 1 (SPOILERS, Episode 80)

[@kyliewatson7323]

“She died as she lived.” “A fucking dumbass?” I love that so much

[@Rabid-Floof]

"Oh look, someone left a metaphor on the ground." One of my favorite lines ever.

[@Soter94]

Antrix same D:

[@BNOBNO14]

Think of it this way. "As long as I don't roll a 1 I'm good" *rolls a 1* Like a metaphor for Murphy's law, or jinxing yourself.

[@deleted5853]

Bryan Olivera no their saying she’s a fuck up

[@sunpreet93]

Since no on answered. Basically this moment was a representation of how the whole fight has been going (really shitty). No one actually said a metaphor, but it naturally occurred. This moment (that represents how the fight is going) just happened in a 'fell into your lap' kind of way. So, "hey, look a metaphor (for how this fight is going)"

[@AflacMan13]

@@sunpreet93 Exactly. :-)

[@Generalligator]

Marisha: "Well that was a natural 1!" Travis: "On what , on what?" Sam: "Just moving!"

[@Awes0m3n3s5]

I know the scene was hilarious, but do yall think Matt should have made her do an athletics check here? She easily had a running start

[@adonyx1]

@@Awes0m3n3s5 By RAW, she should not have had to roll. With a running start, you can jump a number of feet equal to your Strength score - so it should just succeed. It's a commonly forgotten rule.

[@yaymidget]

It's also the DMs decision if he wants to make it an obstacle or more difficult. Rules are guidelines.

[@ajallen212]

@@adonyx1 Based on the squares on the table, it doesnt look like she took enough space for a running jump as you need a 10 ft run-up, she only had 1 square, so 5 ft. To clear 7 ft without a runup, she would need atleast 14 STR. (I have no idea what it was at the time.) Otherwise she had to make a check.

[@martophrenia]

@@Awes0m3n3s5 I actually think it’s on the player to remember what they can do and how they can do it. If you can just jump that distance then you should remember that.

[@CufflinksAndChuckles]

Keyleth! You were the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy Raishan, not yourself! You were supposed to bring balance to the Rolls, not get a nat 1!

[@skotosman]

She is bringing balance to percy's nat 20's.

[@Mad3bunny]

Don't worry. Raishan suffered the worst by keyleth, thanks to a good feeblemind spell.

[@Axeloy]

yes

[@deffdefying4803]

You were the chosen one! Not the natural one!

[@dynamicworlds1]

@@skotosman thought that was Will Wheaton

[@teeonhighhill8827]

So many of their critical fails are so on point for their characters.

[@Reblwitoutacause]

Critical success’ as well! Remember “Search For Grog” and how THAT ONE ended?😂

[@KayveePlays]

3:27 Matt: "i hope this isn't a metaphor for 2017" Me in 2020: "You have cursed us."

[@Dark_Tale_2077]

2022: Still feels like we're prone over here...

[@4D4plus4is4D8]

Matt's expression when Marisha announces the 1 at 1:16 is really touching.

[@Balin93]

Makes me sad for Matt. Those are the moments when DMing is not fun.

[@omegagilgamesh]

And my nephews claimed the DM's job (AKA: my job) is to kill them all. That expression proves otherwise. I say being a DM is more like being a judge: you may have control of the outcome, but you still have to follow rules, and so you'll inevitably end up creating outcomes you don't like.

[@The_Chaotic_Blade]

@@omegagilgamesh NA dawg, the DM's JOB is to make the game fun and exciting for the players, and themself. The real enemy is RNG

[@Medaumplay3]

"Oh boy, my party is looking really bad... at least there's still our druid with full health, she's always super competent." - Well, that's a natural 1 It was that kind of face.

[@Rimorine]

It is the TPK-scare face. When roll fudging is imminent to avoid total carnage... I have definitely made that face myself. When 63 damage turns into 53...

[@JJReesey]

3:27 Matt: “This while thing is a metaphor for 2017.” Oh buddy....oh no....give it three more years

[@estoy1001]

Keyleth + Gravity = Hilarity

[@jeffheun5258]

Matt's face when she rolls the 1... "Crap, how am I going to avoid this tpk."

[@ellmuffin]

Keyleth just outdid herself in the cliff diving episode. Haha she needs a compilation

[@MisfitSass]

nah still doesnt beat that, cliff diving was just her dumb decisions, this was simply due to a bad roll

[@Anduril74871]

There's a big difference between lightning flashes of stupidity and the worst luck ever.

[@delmerputnam1679]

@@Anduril74871 agreed. The cliff dive was due to alcohol, this was literally her getting screwed

[@bigbundle3223]

this was also first

[@delmerputnam1679]

@@bigbundle3223 I wouldn't compare this to the cliff dive. That was completely Keyleth/Marisha's fault, while this was the dice completely screwing her over

[@johnpedey9270]

And so, Keyleth turned into Anakin Skywalker.

[@realafan888]

I love Matt's sigh because as strong as he makes the enemies sometimes in the game, he's supportive of the party and wants them to succeed.

[@Timeward76]

Enemies aren't meant to crush the party, they're difficult obstacles for his players to overcome and feel awesome when they do which makes it all the more painful when the dice just dont cooperate and make you feel like a buffoon instead

[@futurecomedian16]

This is literally the most Keyleth thing that has ever happened. EVER! If you want to summarize Keyleth as a character, just show this clip. Bam. Nailed it.

[@Antenox]

futurecomedian16 Wait till episode 97....

[@Methren1]

Its fine! were gods!

[@ShredPenguins]

Personally my favorite is...."uh.....a penis!"

[@none-of-your-busi-ness]

''we're gods you guys''

[@AflacMan13]

Goldfish Keyleth.

[@OffbeatWorlds]

Travis's "I can't see, it's just a wall of tears!" just kills me. The most hilarious disaster.

[@BtakaV]

"I have the high ground anakin"

[@Reblwitoutacause]

“I have the low ground and still will trip on it, Keyleth…” she says to herself as she trips on nothin and lands face first in molten rock

[@olethorvaldhelland6989]

They say "This is a metaphor for 2017", and I can help but wonder what happened all those years ago... Anyone remember how it was like before 2020?

[@skateywatey]

im not sure but i feel cold

[@Atilahunt]

Guessing here but, since this was posted on Jan 19 2017, they most likely are referring to the 2016 election results.

[@abermen]

@@Atilahunt yeah, they said "2016"... which was a pretty ugly year, but still part of the before times.

[@expendablegerbil]

Oh, sweet summer children.

[@TheyCallMeSpin]

@@Atilahunt yea poopy butthead orange man drumpf ruined the whole world forever in 2016 T_T

[@paulmorris905]

1:19 mats breath was amazing

[@bleachbleachBLEACHER]

I recently had the chance to quote 'oh look, someone left a metaphor on the ground.' It was glorious.

[@beanbomb47]

Talesin at 2:27 - "You're gonna go to that great short bus in the sky..."

[@AndreasPalmbladBt]

Bentley Jaminco hmm what that mean??

[@ladyofrillwater]

A short bus is the bus that special needs children get on to go to school, stereotypically.

[@neruba2173]

Its fun to watch the group in the old days when they could actually die not only by plot.

[@jonathanfairchild]

“This is a metaphore for 2017”. 2020 wants to know your location and 2021 has entered the chat.

[@sovest555]

Mercer's sigh of disappointment is just... I feel you bro.

[@jdreyn02]

I think there is another segment of this episode in which Marisha (Keyleth) is trying to lift Liam (Vax) to safety in her FIRE ELEMENTAL FORM and almost sets him ABLAZE when he is either into death saving throws or super low hp. Which is kinda of in character for her considering she seems to annihilate people she likes, loves, or even just bystanders by accident. I legit almost spewed pepsi all over my computer when it happened.

[@canadian__ninja]

I remember what you are referencing, but he was already KO'd and if the Pit fiend they were fighting decided to kick him in the lava he was literally right beside thats instant death and hes turned to ash. She explained the action in a talks machina

[@RaibDarkin]

Just for clarity It was this fight against Raishan and Vax was already unconscious.

[@advkow]

Yeah so this right here? This is what Marissa means when she said "Keyleth tries so hard'. I mean...just...I don't even know man.

[@TheRealMichaelH]

Matt at 1:18: "Ohh fffffffffffff…"

[@TheRealMichaelH]

+Guy Smith No, more like he doesn't want his own fiancee to lose her character over a single roll like that, because he knows how hard she would take it and he doesn't want to hurt her just because those are the rules, while at the same time he knows he would cheapen the game and everything they've done so far if he _doesn't_ follow the rules. It was a deeply personal dilemma for him, and that showed in his face in those moments. Remember, falling into lava is perma-death, as he explained at the end of the episode. (And the fact that he took time to explain it proves that's what he was concerned about.) If there is no body, nothing less than _true resurrection_ will work, and they've never met anyone in the campaign who is powerful enough to cast that.

[@TheRealMichaelH]

Guy Smith No, you're not getting it. Matt has been GMing for years. He knows how to deal with PC deaths and probably even TPKs. But that look showed this one was personal. As far as I know, he's never reacted like that before to anything else in this campaign.

[@TheRealMichaelH]

Guy Smith That's fine. We're essentially speaking two different languages anyhow.

[@adampr21]

I took Matt's expression more as sympathetic 'OMG this battle is going so poorly for them.'

[@seanpinkey2188]

This is how I want to die: With my friends making jokes and laughing around me and Prone in da Lava

[@alyssaboyles9793]

The look on Vax's face.. this is the love of my life. We're all gonna die xD

[@cameronhall6825]

think this is super delayed karma for what she did to that Duergar in the Underdark?

[@deaddimes]

No, but I do now.

[@yapyap92]

I'm still so proud and amazed they survived this battle

[@EthalaRide]

*insert gif from Naked Gun where everyone facepalms, including the audience*

[@JohnPablob]

I always come back to this one, it's just such a good and precise statement of Keyleth's character, even better than the Goldfish.

[@Merlin7L]

It would of been great if anyone had said that Keyleth should sink into the lava and as a last gesture slowly give a Thumbs Up Terminator 2 style.

[@chiprahn]

-"Prone in the lava"" -Gets up and climbs right out. Yeah she's fine. Hit points are really stupid sometimes.

[@Kloetee]

Quick reminder that Vax's foot got stuck in Lava at one point and Pike had to keep healing it for a good amount of time. He also had permanent disadvantage on all his stealth rolls, which was only nullified by his special cloak. I can't remember if anything else came of this, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't just fine.

[@adlernelson285]

To be fair, they are far beyond the limits of normal humans. That damage would kill commoners, what the average person is, five times over.

[@ezrablock3218]

The game is one huge abstraction. If you are looking for realism, there are plenty of games designed for it. D&D is not one of them. Nor should it be. The game would probably be less fun if you tried to make it make sense. I am a fan of increasing the damage which falling and lave cause, to make them greater threats to players. However, that is a GM choice. Not everyone wants to run or play in a super realistic game.

[@copycrow4486]

@@ezrablock3218 I like to think that part of what allows them to become superhuman is the magic of the world. Magic can alter people's bodies permanently, so I like to imagine that magic subtly gives people to ability to go beyond normal limits. After all, if you push your body it will respond to compensate for the conditions. If you're in a magic world, where the magic can alter the body and many other things, and lots of dangerous creatures or people are trying to kill you. Since magic resides in small amounts of every living thing, I like to think of it as a sort of limiter removal.

[@wishstruck]

@@copycrow4486 this is really late but for a standard game i use that magic permeates the world which is why grievous wounds heal up after a single night of sleep. I also allow for a shorter long rest with constitution rolls for exhaustion for each day they run a shorter long rest. To balance that rule i had something stalking the party that could randomly show up at any rest shorter the rest the less likely it to return +2 dc for each hour shortened 8 hours being a 50% chance of a return. had some really tense moments

[@kappakate57]

Kiki and Lava, a love story.

[@UnlimitedLives1960]

When the dice do the roleplaying for you

[@magiv4205]

Taliesin on point with the quotes as always XD

[@TheDeathlivesuk]

Can we get that sigh from matt turned into a gif please

[@NonsenseWithGlasses]

I would love to see an animation of this moment

[@lamegoldfish6736]

"The floor is LAVA!"

[@falcychead8198]

Matt: "This is totally a metaphor for 2017." 2020: (x_o)

[@wuzzy41123]

"This whole thing's a metaphor for 2017." If only Matt knew what the world would be like in 3 years' time...

[@jerseyhammer1951]

And it was at this point where neither the idea of Beau was born, or further solidified for Campaign 2

[@aerodblade1601]

jeez haven't reached the ep yet but it's rough if half of them are dead

[@ItsAnotherDanny]

matt's sigh at 1:20. Im crying XD

[@whzpoor]

Travis's laugh and her "fucking dumbass" comment to Taliesins amusing comment made this into my top 3, behind her goldfish and "roll out" moment.

[@wuvs2spooge]

I forgot about this amazing moment.

[@Kalenz1234]

1:17 Marisha: Well that was a natural one Matt sighs and thinks "great... the party is gonna get wiped out"

[@danielmcgillis270]

This is why I try to never make these clutch rolls when a nat one will be super bad. I always roll a one. Or I take lucky as a feat.

[@andrew3606]

It was just a simple check. Nothing clutch about it from what I can see.

[@canadian__ninja]

When a nat 1 means you take lava damage, and full lava damage, not the fake damage from early episodes, NOT rolling a one is clutch in my books

[@RonquixoteDIII]

Technically there shouldn’t have even needed to be a roll, characters have a running long jump of their strength score if they get 10 feet of movement before so keyleth can theoretically jump 15... Though Matt always makes them roll a lot more athletics checks than usually needed so it’s not unusual

[@adamstadick2044]

Or you could be vax when trying to sneak out of keyleth’s room when he rolled a nat one and then used luck to roll another nat one.

[@katherinelikesstuff]

1:21 matts face being like "sigh i have to kill my wife in game"

[@christinasims3524]

Matt said to Marisha: "I'd jump into lava for you"

[@Pluto137]

Ya can see the pain in the GM when Marisha rolled a 1 at a burny time...ooof "Oh look some 1 left a metaphor on the ground OH MY GOD it's everywhere"

[@masonjar2887]

Anyone else notice that Taliesin was rubbing her back because she was upset😂😂

[@RealRedHotSteele]

Pretty sure you don't need to roll for a jump... Long jump is your strength score if moving 10 feet, half that if it is standing. Im not sure what her strength score is, but if it is 12 she makes that jump every time

[@laurenhawes7201]

"Who here is close to 1?" Ohh

[@quack961]

You know according to you the rules of dnd5e she shouldn’t have had to make a check for a 6 foot jump

[@giannacarter9711]

Yeah but this is so much better. Plus, maybe it’s a house rule.

[@StabbeyTheClown]

@@giannacarter9711 - It's not a house rule, Mercer just didn't remember that you can jump that far. He did eventually realize it... in the final boss battle.

[@zelly4914]

She's like, "please don't let this be I how I go out"

[@tealversace]

Is nobody going to talk about how Marisha goes to lean against her book and it literally mimics the action Keyleth just went through?

[@BaldursPicketFence]

Its a metaphor for 2017 2020: hold my beer.

[@VictorBurnsTV]

What's the board they are using? Where can I buy it?

[@Larrath]

They're using boards from Wyrmwood Gaming. wyrmwoodgaming.com/

[@VictorBurnsTV]

Actually I found out that the lava map was from Dwarven Forge, but thanks!

[@skateywatey]

travis always cracks me up

[@AflacMan13]

The dice... they knoooooow. :-P lol.

[@rcdehaai]

Oh my gosh Matt's sigh

[@sensen9900]

Keyleth did the Skywalker there :3

[@myka5947]

Damn..she got Anakined

[@paulscott2037]

So I THINK Matt would have rolled 10d10 for damage so with a roll of 54 I can buy that that was what he actually rolled cos the more dice you roll the more they have a tendency to average out, but I can totally understand if he fudged this one.

[@gabrielholley6116]

Watching Matt just deflate

[@trudy3094]

Got ya.

[@dylan56789ful]

""this whole fight is a metaphor for 2017 "" - Well this aged well am i right ?

[@paintedlantern7248]

It was right after the 2016 election where trump got elected Which arguably started everything. So yeah it's very applicable

[@ThisJustOne]

6 feet? surely most characters can jump that far without an athletics check

[@Birthday888]

It was in the middle of battle though and I doubt it was a high DC. Keyleth just was just super unlucky.

[@Nathan-oe8ut]

@@Birthday888 5e rules say you can jump the feet equal to your strength core with no roll, I'm and out of combat. This roll doesn't make sense

[@LednacekZ]

Sam and Travis are pissing themselves

[@Nathan-oe8ut]

Keylith pulls an Anakin

[@austinboylan5476]

3:23 yeah it could have easily been a TPK. Why’d y’all attack Raishan just moments after the Thordak battle?

[@OffbeatWorlds]

"You died as you lived" "A fucking dumbass?" They have no idea how true that is lol

[@Thundarr100]

I haven't seen this episode yet (I'm only on Episode 42) so I might be missing some context here. But Keyleth is a druid. Why didn't she wildshape into a bird and fly over the lava? (Again, I might be missing some context here. She could have been out of wildshapes for the day. But if I were playing a druid and I were in that situation, that would be my first instinct.)

[@greathouseofdel]

hi I know this is old. My guess is she was saving her bonus action to do Healing Word, a spell with a wider range, and since she's circle of the moon, wild shaping would've taken her bonus action away, and maybe she couldn't do cure wounds instead

[@gamingandgeeking7880]

I don't understand why she can fail the jump. 5e States that you can jump a number of feet equal to your Strength Score. She should make the 5-6ft with no issue :S

[@Badgerman494]

Realistically that is a bit of a bad call, asking for a roll on a jump of six feet. A character should be able to jump a distance in feet equal to their strength score. I can understand why he called for a roll, but Keyleth should really have made that jump easily.

[@Pasteldqueijo]

So you think a str 10 average tavern keeper can automatically jump 10 feet across ? Also , jumps out of battle are different than during battle , out of battle automatic success is fine but you have to consider the added difficulty of pressure from the battle itself

[@theWebWizrd]

@@Pasteldqueijo Exactly. 10 feet would be pretty much dead on the world record for long jumping, and that's into sand.

[@joeofdoom]

@@theWebWizrd the womens long jump record is 24ft the mens is nearly 30ft a 6-7ft gap shouldn't be that hard for even the most average of people.

[@Birthday888]

@@joeofdoom This was in the middle of battle against a dragon though. And I doubt the DC on the check was super high. It was just a nat 1.

[@0saintclark0]

You're right, but it is always possible that someone trips. As others have said just because he called for a roll doesn't mean it was hard...she might have succeeded on anything except a Nat 1 for all we know.

[@MagnusvonYoshi]

Matt's inner Ragnaros should have fudged the lava damage to a multiple of 8.

[@Rombizio]

That is the problem with d20. You always have 5% chance of fucking up regardless of how good you are. All based on pure luck. Or unluck. So never try a do or don't action when fail means death.

[@CreativeUsernameEh]

Critical failures for ability checks and saving throws are an optional house rule though: a 1 is only a guaranteed failure when it comes to attack roles.

[@i-am-your-conscience]

I always let the characters choose for some tasks, if they want to do it with Athletics or Acrobatics.. Here, also two things could apply: Just jumping with sheer power, but more likely for her character, with dexterity and technique.. I just remember doing Judo as a kid, I wasnt very strong, but after mastering the roll, I could easily jump over several people.. Much farther than an strong person could do

[@DakonBlackblade2]

Aren't they playing 5th ed ? If they are the ruling here is wrong, you do not need Athletics check to jump on 5e,only if you want to jump more than your normal jump distance and pretty much everybody jumps 1 square normaly.

[@Balin93]

It was more than one square. It was 6-7 feet.

[@DakonBlackblade2]

If she has a running start (move 10ft before jumping) she jumps a distance equal to her Str score, she could easily make that distance no checks required. Without a running start she jumps half her Str score, Keyleth has a Str score of 14 so she was OK anyway.

[@DrHokeyPokey]

Ruling different from the official rules does not make the ruling "wrong".

[@Fl4m30f3d3n]

You do realize in the dmg it clearly states the “rules” are guidelines, and can be changed to however the dm wants. They homebrew, and in real life, an unathletic person can’t just jump a 7 ft gap easily 100% of the time.

[@dynamicworlds1]

@@Fl4m30f3d3n under pressure, on a time crunch, in pain (if from the radient heat of the lava, if nothing else), and on likely unstable footing

[@danhibiki5977]

Healing Word has a range of 60 Feet. Just Saying.

[@WarlordM]

you can long jump your strength score automatically, just saying.

[@madmeddik]

@@WarlordM only when moving at least 10 ft before making the jump, its half the distance from a standing start (and i believe the landing still requires DC10 acrobatics check or you fall prone)

[@TheRamblingSoul]

madmeddik only if you're landing on difficult terrain

[@valkoharja]

Wow :D

[@dapprligtnin98]

This video pretty much summarizes Marisha’s experience in DND.

[@ohexenwahno5652]

The worst part is that you don't actually need to make a check to jump a distance lower than your STR score.

[@Liecham]

Funny thing is she does a healing word. She never had to move to begin with. idk why she says she reacts over to cast it. Maybe a slip of the tongue and meant Healing touch.

[@asherandai1000]

i don't remember the board clearly but i think she was planning to reach one person with like a cure wounds, and healing word someone else.

[@Liecham]

Kyle Nott perhaps that's it

[@inquisitordalius3388]

the law of physisc states that keyleth wouldnt sink into the lava because lava is molten rock and she isnt heavier then rock she would be standing on top of it only getting burnt feet

[@_____2219]

This is a fantasy game physics don’t apply here.

[@Critical1ce]

Payback for that duergar

[@yashamoto]

2:20 At least she admits it.

[@artemiswallace8716]

Man, what is it with you Marisha haters...

[@joelortiz3084]

@@artemiswallace8716 Not really, it's calling out stupidity when we see it

[@AflacMan13]

Wow... I never noticed it but... Matt looked, almost angry when she rolled the Nat1. :-P Like: "Oh great, I get to hear about this later. Woman that I love, you'd better not kill your character from something this silly". *Episodes later* Goldfish Keyleth. :-P

[@playtoyx]

so close.

[@LuckyDuke777]

Matt fudged that damage roll so hard. But maan I get it that would be one of the worst ways to go.

[@ilfurlano1228]

Doesn't lava deals 6d10 dmg ? 53 is pretty high for a fudge!

[@LuckyDuke777]

lava deals 20d6

[@ilfurlano1228]

In 3.5 yes! In Princess of the Apocalypse: "A creature takes 6d10 fire damage when it enters lava for the first time on a turn or when it ends its turn there."

[@LuckyDuke777]

Yeah I know what it says in that module I also know what it says in DMG in Improvising Damage section. But the most important information is what damage does it deal in Matt's game and that is 20d6. He ruled that since some incident i don't remember in which somebody has fallen into lava and taken little damage and community then plagued Matt with how he shoul up the lava damage and so it now does 20d6.

[@LuckyDuke777]

also sorry for the somewhat broken english

[@s92dx]

Why did she even need to took for this? There's very clearly outlined rules on long jumping. You can cover a number of feet equal to your strength score as long as you get a running head start.

[@gonehollow1319]

If i were dm i would have some lava splash onto another party member.

[@artemiswallace8716]

Thank God you weren't dm then

[@kainuipenaloza9395]

Don't you hate it when you say, "I roll perception on the potion!" **Nat 1** DM: "It's a healing potion!" :D Player: "Thats.... no... That's no how you DM...."

[@kainuipenaloza9395]

You supposed to say you don't know, not the opposite of what it is!! thats just saying its bad!

[@Blackwind9928]

See this is stupid the rules says you strength determines how far you can jump. She shouldnt have to roll for anything.

[@ArmorCrocodile]

It gets worse, she does way worse. On purpose too...

[@hearmeroar2100]

This was karma for the first arc when she suffocated that one duergar in lava

[@_____2219]

And also killed a child offscreen

[@petrgalko4152]

I can't help but take immense pleasure every time Marisha's "overconfidence" backfires. This was one of those beautiful cases. :3

[@Ekkaisara]

There was no confidence here she was trying to do something pretty easy to do and just rolled badly. Sexist loser

[@petrgalko4152]

@@Ekkaisara How is what I said, sexist?

[@petrgalko4152]

@@Ekkaisara I keep thinking about this and I just don't get it. How is taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune making me sexist? If anything it makes me a dick head but not sexist :D. Not to mention even the whole group laughed at her misfortune too! :D

[@zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba0]

I don't know what's worse. Her over acting every interaction, her spell selections or her luck.

[@artemiswallace8716]

I don't know what's worse, people attacking keyless for anything she does, or people hating on Marisha for no good reason