Palworld Is Good (In A Bad Way!) - Critique

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[@hyperXknees]

Gosh...thankfully the subscription notification actually notified me of this video (literally didn't know you uploaded two prior). No interest in ever actually playing the game personally, but always interesting/entertaining to get your perspective. It was also just a nice excuse to go bing all your older videos again. Keep up the great work!

[@HatsAlEsman]

HELL YEAH logged into youtube just in time for this to show up

[@elliotCloud-f6d]

Awesome video. Always loved your content. Really good points and the topic of plagiarism was really fleshed out. I also agree about how on the topic of the designs Pokemon Company has no rights to claim copyright. It reminded me of that infamous Namco copyright over minigames being used in loadscreens and how they just got away with stopping and not allowing any other developer to even attempt their own spin on it. It be like that if Pokemon Company claimed all similar monster designs. But also like you put in the end of the video they are in such a different league as a money printer that this doesn't really effect them. Amazing vid feels nice to kind of get an ending to this whole Palworld drama since for a few weeks it was everywhere and so many opinions where either from Pokemon die hards or people who haven't played the game farming for engagement on Twitter.

[@kazoorion7993]

WOAH, DIDN'T NAMCO ACTUALLY DO THAT? I know they fucked up in a lot of stuff, but it's the first time I actually hear this.

[@HyperCharge]

I was also going to talk about videogame patents like the Namco one as well, but I ended up cutting the whole discussion. The point I was going to make was that video game patents effectively stop other developers from putting in good ideas and the gaming community as a whole actively scoffs at that kind of thing and recognizes it should be free for everyone to use. This actually lead me into researching video game patents as a whole and it would've gone into this whole other discussion about plagiarism, but I felt like it would've taken too long to talk about as opposed to the simple 'Doom' example.

[@diostaku2]

What I find funniest about it is how people celebrate or curse the existence of Palworld as if it were some kind of real competition for Pokemon, when not only is one a new thing that came out of nowhere and the other is an IP with like 30 years behind them but also when they are games of totally different genres and that do not even share a platform.🤣 Literally, the success of Palworld does not affect Pokemon in the slightest, the only thing it affects is that it drives the most die-hard fanboys of the franchise crazy, they are literally on suicide watch for the simple fact that Palworld is an actually fun and successful game lol

[@kazoorion7993]

This is why I tell people that Palworld doesn't need to "kill" Pokemon, not only because realistically it can't, but Pokemon has already killed itself and it's now a zombie franchise and just move on from this endless debate that leads to nowhere lol At the end of the way, Pokemon fans can simply keep playing Pokemon, regardless if the newest games now brick consoles and sells 50 millions of copies in 10 hours while Palworld players waits for Pocketpair to keep up with the QoLs that makes people happy like the Ore and Pal Fluid farming.

[@n0ir945]

@@kazoorion7993this right here says it all you single-handedly ended the palworld vs Pokémon beef thank yoy

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[@daermani]

Watching this when I get to the crib. Thanks for another banger dawg ✊🏾

[@andrescube64]

Im so glad you came back with another video

[@kazoorion7993]

This video turned out to be better than I expected. While I obvioulsy don't agree with the "chinese bootleg thing", I agree with a lot of stuff you said in the video like how a lot of comparation that Pokemon fans makes are flimsy at 24:40 and the nonsensical nature of Palworld, which is ironically one of the biggest reasons of why I liked it a lot, as well as what you said at 27:20 in regards of many video game studios "plagiarizing" others or even themselves. Also, I am surprized you didn't talk about the Wanted mechanic you can get by commiting crimes like attacking NPCs or getting spotted in any of the Wildlife Sanctuaries, making the PIDF officers hunt you down until you are either dead or you somehow make them lose track on you, having some similitary with the GTA series in that regard.

[@HyperCharge]

I do think the game's appearance gives it a very bad first impression for a lot of people and there's really no denying that. Obviously, I don't want to stigmatize China as a whole, but Palworld does completely fit the mold for the kinds of games made with the countries' lack of regulation on foreign IP. Even though Pocketpair are based in Japan, they could've fooled me otherwise if I didn't really look into it. Again, it's all just vibes and how it's perceived. The wanted system is definitely GTA inspired, but I guess it didn't stand out to me all that much. I didn't really commit crimes at all besides going on those islands for the rare Pals, so there weren't a lot of points where I interacted with it.

[@kazoorion7993]

@@HyperCharge It's a natural reaction if you see it from an outside perspective, specially since many of it's trailers only adversites the slavery and cruelty which can turn off people from trying it out, but once you actually play it, you realise the game is more than just "haha lets enslave them all and butcher them bzzz" which can surprize people and go like "Wait, you can actually interact with your Pals in wholesome ways like patting? This wasn't adversited at all." which I actually consider it a good thing. Make sense, specially if you are one of those players that want to beat the game while avoiding to commit crimes as much as possible, despite some Pals being exclusive to those islands in the wild (since you can breed them too). Personally, I think that's something in favor on the game as you will always see people playing the game very different from you and others, as well as making it replayable, since it has more than one save file. With all the QoL Pocketpair has been giving in updates like Ore mining and fixing the bugs, I am more than happy to keep playing Palworld and hoping the devs keep going on the good path without letting the overwhelming success to make them rest on their laurels.

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[@WinspearUltima]

When will you do a video on final fantasy VII REBIRTH or Final Fantasy XVI

[@cerphusrodriguez2786]

Honestly my favorite thing to come out of this was the pokemon fandom tears. It was just really funny.

[@fizzybitzobacon5747]

Always good to see your vids. Hell yeah

[@rockowlgamer631]

I have 141 hours in Palworld and I still enjoy it. I've been with Pokemon since gen 2 and I see this as a bit of competition for pokemon even if Palworld can't keep up.

[@kazoorion7993]

Tbh I think people shouldn't see a brand new monster collector game as a "competition" but as a "new adition" to the genre, specially when it rarely gets a sequel, success or not, while Pokemon get annual releases. It's like someone releases a FPS game and people say it will kill "Call of Duty" and the developers mostly don't have any intention to make their own game into a "killer".

[@sergeantsapient]

Good take overall. I do feel that the success of Palworld is probably by accident but the developers seem to have shown an interest in building on that success.

[@Lin-ij9vk]

The argument point that "pocket pair used those scam mobile games as puzzles proves they have no clue what they're doing" is a weak argument. Why do those mobile games use these puzzle games yo attract people? Because those puzzle games seem fun. The fact someone made a game based on those sort of mobile puzzle game at the very least show there is interest in that sort of thing. Now why is it bad those sort of puzzle mobile games exist? Because its a scam. Neither of those 2 facts are mutually exclusive and if anything shows theres a degree in creativeness when ripping off a lot of elements.

[@Real_Bossclips]

It's one of those situations where the person people don't like is obviously grifting, but they're technically not doing anything illegal so there's no real repercussions. Saying it's a 1-to-1 knock off is just wrong, but saying it's wholly unique isn't much better. Anyway yeah, good video. I heard about most of this stuff from one side only, so it was nice to actually be told what you did IN THE GAME for once lol.

[@HyperCharge]

One thing I didn't cover in the video is that it probably must feel bad as a Pokemon fan to have this incredibly incompetent game studio show up out of nowhere and one up the Pokemon series with Palworld. I feel like if Palworld was a more traditional Pokemon clone, it would've been more accepted by the Pokemon fanbase because it would pay homage and "bend the knee" to Pokemon in a way. In it's current state, it almost disrespectful in the way they added guns and slavery and all this crap, because it's basically making fun of the thing you love, while also blatantly ripping it off at the same time, and also making tons of money off that. On top of this, it also lift the veil and exposes GameFreak's overall incompetence, because if these dummys over at Pocketpair who can barely do anything right can actually put out a decent openworld Pokemon game, then GameFreak has literally no excuses! It's like getting a worse grade on the test than the dumbest kid in the classroom.

[@Real_Bossclips]

Yeah, I don't blame Pokemon fans much for getting so livid over it (even if they clearly overreacted and started reaching for arguments), it's clearly not trying very hard at all to hide what it is.

[@kazoorion7993]

Well, the CEO of Pocketpair literally stated in an interview they aren't attempting to innovate and/or make it "unique", but giving it a try with some clear influence from other games beyond Pokemon, which was the correct decition, given how oversaturated the crafting/open world mechanic genre are nowadays. It's also important to know that days ago, Pocketpair made a statement on their Discord Server, regarding their precedents with Craftopia still being early access, despite it being released in 2020 and how they were so small that missmanagment was a very common issue with them. In that case, they have a similar trayectory with StudioMDHR, the creators of Cuphead, as the latter also started as a small indie company that had problem with managment and other stuff, which lead Cuphead to take 6 years to be released, but just like Palworld, it paid off incredibly well. As a cercain Spanish KZbinr said in his critique of Palworld, regarding it's controversy; If you buy Palworld and expect it to be a revolutionary masterpiece that puts other games to shame instead of another adition of the genre, then all you are doing is attempting to respond to the needs from other times, becoming a parody that's so big as the result of your own yearning.

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[@jpeckdraws3932]

We need this for PlayStation

[@happythumbsgaming8606]

I thought his new video would e about Xbox and PlayStation Exclusives coming to PC.

[@TwilightYonder720]

I don't have any serious thoughts on Palworld, it's just a hilarious game but seeing all the Pokemon fans getting mad something else was in the limelight for once was pretty funny

[@TwilightYonder720]

Personally I'm waiting for Monster Hunter Stories 3, hoping they add the cut monsters plus bunch of new ones

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[@NaturalEntertainer85]

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[@heygarebear]

great vid. for me as long as the game is good.. i'll likely play it.

[@rexspecificallyredrex64rem73]

10 minutes in, I wish this wasn't so centered on the perspective of pokemon fans, as if no one else is ever gonna play this game, or as if pokemon is the only Mon franchise to exist, like for a yu gi oh or digimon fan alone half the stuff you described wouldn't even make them bat an eye LOL. Finishing the video, I really love your rational thoughts and takeaways from it, and that everyone can come to the conclusion that pokemon fans are deranged crybabies.

[@mothimas]

19:10 Hoo boy, you should make some time and find a reading of the CEO's memoir of the game development, either as a google translate/DeepL or find someone reading it. Game engine switch from unity to unreal 5, despite everyone having no experience in unreal 5 and relying on one guy to learn to the ropes. Didn't know how to rig 3d models due to initially relying on assets from unity. He didn't once look st the cost of the game and just kept going until the funds hit 0. And so much more. It is one hell of a ride all things considered making this. They might be idiots, but they sure as hell learned quick to get the game out in a surprisingly stable state.

[@hipstersephiroth3722]

Thank you being so kind help me and these people to better understand you God amen

[@sergeantsapient]

All I want to know is why there's no ripoff version of Magikarp, the most OP Pokemon.

[@billogden7265]

@HyperCharge you’re getting filtered out in the KZbin search bar, every time I type your channel name in, there’s another channel named hypercharge that’s coming up instead of you, figured I’d say something

[@HyperCharge]

Unfortunately, not much I can do about that unless I get more popular to boost the search results. I do have the @HyperCharge tag, so you can easily find my channel with the link below. www.youtube.com/@hypercharge I double checked and you can also easily find my channel by searching 'Uncivil Synopsis' or 'Nintendrone' if you're not logged into your account. Most of my traffic comes from the KZbin home page, so it's not THAT big of a deal, but subscribing to the channel and checking into the channel through your subscriptions page is a much easier way to keep my channel on the radar.

[@andrewhoover2735]

Wario world had its own 3d game. 🤯

[@nicodemous52]

I didn't even notice that Craftopia ripped of BotW until you pointed it out. That game was on my radar from a long time ago, I didn't realize it was the same people behind it. You can call them whatever you want, but where is your 225 million selling game?

[@alexgeoppinger645]

Yo the king has returned!

[@teero121]

god tier timing holy shit. imma enjoy this

[@Suprapika]

"it's not illegal to be a talentless hack" was a pretty funny takeaway from all this, but seems to be pretty accurate. I never knew (or bothered to figure out) that these devs have tried to rip off popular games before, even making their player character look like botw Link is ballsy to a hilarious degree.

[@HyperCharge]

Craftopia is definitely their biggest game in recent years, but almost everything Pocketpair develops and publishes seems to be blatant ripoffs of other people's stuff. Honestly, a lot of small indie studios operate like this, so I can't really blame them for that, but I do think that they will find their own identity as time goes on.

[@Suprapika]

@@HyperCharge I'm curious to find out if that identity will eventually be "we make the most money out of ripoff games", but at least the overall quality is getting better?

[@kazoorion7993]

@@HyperCharge Actually, even some AAA developers started like this. With Square Enix and Naughty Dog being the perfect example. Before Square made Final Fantasy, they ripped off many Sega games like Space Harrier and Out Run while Naughty Dog ripped off Mortal Kombat and other games before they started with Crash Bandicoot.

[@SenanSerat]

I am just happy you're still here haha. Also, that people are salty.

[@protoluigi2047]

I mean Stellar Blade takes some cues from Nier Automata, you don’t hear Nier fans complaining about Stellar Blade.

[@kazoorion7993]

Actually, this was explained at 27:20 about games taking (sometimes heavy) clues from other games and you don't see people whining for no reason. As well, as the Pokemon fanbase being so fucking annoying for being the only who complains about "plagiarism"

[@muamua101]

The king returns

[@mikegomez2646]

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[@Zacian2.0]

Damn it, another ignorombus. Palworld was based on ARK 900% more than it was on Pokemon. Palworld straight up ripped the tech tree interface. Why does everyone compare it to pokemon? Well its because cute monsters. Okay then, why do people not compare it against other monster catchers? Because monopoly belongs to pokemon. Why do people like it? Because it goes against everything pokemon stands for: Innovative gameplay, optimized, multiplayer, you can freaken catch humans, hell there is even an unreleased palsphere that lets you STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S PALS! Palworld isnt a Pokemon knockoff. No, Its the upgrade.

[@kazoorion7993]

This was actually addressed in the video at 30:52 where he asked if Palworld "ripped off" many games, then why do everyone is putting too much emphasis in Pokemon in particular? Like... you don't see Zelda or Elden Ring or Rust fanboys sending death threats to the developers, unlike Pokemon fanboys, which at this point, I am not even surprized anymore as they first send death threats to Masuda and now to Pocketpair because they are just awful.

[@bigphilly08]

I played this game for about a week. Yes the game in fact ripoffs Pokemon and Ark. The first several areas ran well but once you start exploring more the game performance tanked. I had a lot of fun until performance tanked. I'll probably return to the game after a big update

[@kazoorion7993]

What kind of potato computer you have to have the performance tank this badly lol My computer is far from being exclusively for gamers, but it runs the game just fine, even before the big update that happened at the start of this month.

[@chriscorte5533]

Enslaving pikachus to reduce labor costs is actually something people would do IRL. Game freak just refuses to acknowledge it...

[@carnanya]

This is a surprise

[@gnderify]

Return of the legend

[@ciconne]

One of the good game youtubers

[@DAonYT]

Great video!

[@Kardino]

At this point, Palworld is doing well enough that we may, somewhat cyclically, see rip-offs of it in 2-3 years.

[@kazoorion7993]

Aaaaand Tencent recently announced their own Palworld clone lol The fun fact is that Pocketpair is aware of it and they are actually excited.

[@HatsAlEsman]

A lot of early pokemon are blatantly based off Dragon Quest monsters, and gamefreak pokemon have literally ripped off fan designs in some cases, so they got no leg to stand on. The other reason pokemon fans are salty is THEIR GAMES ARE JANK AND DON’T INNOVATE MUCH. Its just SALT.

[@kazoorion7993]

Not to mention the huge "backlash" from Pokemon fans to Palworld and telling people to boycott it only caused the opposite result, in other words, the Streisand Effect. They should have learned that shit from Hogwards Legacy when all they actually did was making people buy the game lol

[@HoshitheLycanroc]

They weren't based on dragon quest, they just used alot of the same typical rpg tropes.

[@jpeckdraws3932]

This sounds cool as hell

[@unironicallydel7527]

1. definitely not a shameless ripoff. The only thing shameless about this game are how shady pocket pair as a dev team is. Also, nothing is inspired by Rust. Rust isnt in the slightest bit original, idk wym.

[@Xaddgx]

The salt of Pokemon fans from people having fun in a video game really shows how far their games fell.

[@HyperCharge]

I do think it's more of a minority within the overall Pokemon fanbase and the internet buzz is a bit overblown. You also have to remember that there are a lot of Pokemon fans who also liked Palworld (myself included) who still play all the janky modern games too, so I feel like there's A LOT more cross over in the fanbases than you might think. The point I was making at the end of the video was that both sides of this issue, whether you like or hate the modern games, are both STILL Pokemon fans. I mean, if someone actually didn't like Pokemon anymore, they would probably just play other games and not participate in the discourse entirely. Defending and playing Palworld sort of implies that you are still are invested in Pokemon and want it to be better, so it's more so an internal discussion WITHIN the Pokemon community if anything.

[@Xaddgx]

@@HyperCharge Oh cool, I wasn't expecting a reply. Great video, by the way. You're absolutely right that it's a minority of people overall, since I don't believe most people are even on X/Twitter to begin with. However, it was definitely enough if The Pokemon Company themselves felt the need to acknowledge people's complaints. I don't recall if you mentioned it in the video, but one of the people that were comparing models actually faked the similarities by editing the models, which they eventually admitted to because Palworld "glorifies animal abuse." That's just ridiculously far. In addition to that, the accusations of AI were very obviously intended as a way to do PR sabotage of Palworld, to make people avoid playing it. Realistically this didn't work, but I can't really call this stuff the actions of people who want Pokemon to be better, but rather those who wish for Pokemon to have zero competition due to blind loyalty to the brand. It'd be a different discussion if there was any actual evidence to the claims, but there weren't. That being said, everything I just said only applies to the outrage squad on X/Twitter, none of my friends who play Pokemon except for one even knew about any of the perceived controversy. So sure, fair enough, I'm just angry stuff like that even gets attention.

[@kazoorion7993]

​@@Xaddgx Lmao I still remember that person. To be honest, I never believed their quote unquote "proofs" of Palworld stealing Pokemon models, as aside from the Pokemon fanbase being known for spreading missinformation, that person never made a video downloading the models, comparing to them and glossing over them when they were asked for, which would only raise eyebrows to those who were exceptic. And once they got called out for lying to everyone and give that shitty excuse for doing it and run away, you know you are dealing with a lolcow. And you are absolutely right about people wanting Pokemon to have absolute zero competition. And this isn't even something that can be exclusively related to Palworld, but also can be traced back from the likes of Digimon, Spectrobes, Yokai Watch, Nexomon and even the likes of Dragon Quest and Shin Megami Tensei, despite both series coming out before Pokemon. It's like they want the monster collection genre to be exclusive to Pokemon while anything else being labeled as a "blatant rip off" no matter how different it actually is. But yeah, if Twitter didn't exist, then the "backlash" wouldn't have become overblown and the Streisand Effect that was part that lead the game to it's commercial success would have definitely been way smaller.

[@mr.phil21]

Oh this was a good video lol.

[@M3rtyville]

I think Pocket Pair just want a game that they enjoy playing. Not to innovate or whatever.