Pamaj's problems with infinite, (THE REASON HE LEFT)

[@btsumer]

Pamaj is a 🐐. Sending kids to college and helping out the home town are monumental accomplishments. Hard work and perfecting the craft gave you the opportunity to make that happen. I hate to see people sell themselves short. Props to him.

[@TheDuo]

Brandon S facts

[@Ziplock95]

I think Pam is a goat for his years in early COD, helping out his community, etc. But honestly, he hasn't done ANYTHING recently. Literally anything. He's been making beats, made one or two mediocre montages, and does nothing with his 2 million subscribers. Homeboy could be vlogging, playing scrims with his friends for fun and recording it, streaming variety games or even doing dual streams for blackout wagers with Xposed or something....man, I'd KILL to have his viewerbase and supportive community and he does nothing with it. He's a true homie but I feel bad that he hasn't done anything major creator-wise since joining Faze. He's got a dream job, and so, so much opportunity. i just dk why he's wasting his time doing ... nothing tbh.

[@btsumer]

Ziplock95 That thought process right there is why you don't have what he has. You say he's not doing anything because you don't see but that doesn't mean moves aren't being made. If he was a "true homie" as you say then it wouldn't matter what he did you would support him in whatever Avenue he chooses to spend his time in. Why not spend your time doing what makes you happy. I for damn sure wouldn't waste my happiness playing something or doing something that didn't bring me joy. His subscribers are getting older with him with that means his viewer base is getting more mature. Life happens. You fall out with things you never thought you would. Let him take his time. I can't speak for everyone but I'll be there whenever he gets ready to throw himself into the next chapter.

[@btsumer]

@@Ziplock95 lmao. I bet homie. Carry on. Carry on.

[@Ziplock95]

@@btsumer have a great rest of your day sir

[@screwfacerambler4082]

I watched optic when pamaj first joined, the first time. Jesus my life is sprinting by

[@JR-kv6ez]

Have you done anything with your life since then?

[@screwfacerambler4082]

Finished school, worked and then travelled. Currently in the process of starting a business that allows me to work and travel. Im happy with my time. Many good memories

[@JR-kv6ez]

@@screwfacerambler4082 Very nice! I'm happy for you.

[@RPatches]

Time flies after high school it’s crazy

[@Oeleted]

I remember seeing the tweet saying he joined optic, man time seriously flies

[@ThisFlawedWorld]

tbh I can't even imagine how HECZ must really feel watching his creation get destroyed like this.

[@PuReGhOsTT]

at least its all good now

[@fatike6478]

Something tells me he knew what he was doing...

[@zkruption3308]

@IP2Cx Historian that he knew what he was doing... ;)

[@zkruption3308]

@IP2Cx Historian that he knew what he was doing... ;)

[@zkruption3308]

@IP2Cx Historian that he knew what he was doing... ;)

[@arfella06]

Hector handed over a brand and a culture on a gold plate and to have it all undone by individuals who were so incompetent and unaware of the OG culture is the most disappointing end to the story. I grew up following OpTic since the beginning and watched it grow to what it was when Hector handed it over to the corporate side. I was excited to see it get the investment it deserved to take it to the next level and was expecting OG to kick on and dominate the esports scene in many areas. One of the worst cases of business and people management in ANY Industry. Can’t believe it.

[@drakeanton2000]

That’s the thing. He didn’t hand it over. He got it pried from his hands.

[@arrchie]

he didn’t know the consequences. don’t say things you don’t know if you never think about it.

[@_thekingdavid_]

he legit got out bid he tried to buy optic from himself and then that company just outbid him

[@PuReGhOsTT]

Its all better now at least

[@dalesfailssagaofasuslord783]

@@PuReGhOsTT exactly

[@pamaj]

Ya'll are having a conversation and commenting on things that were said close to a year ago btw. And im changing what I said "content creation is the hardest job" Being your own boss is the hardest job and only those that have it know what I mean and what it takes to get to it. sooo notttt today internet

[@ee1yd]

lost your verification

[@plus2golfer12]

I understand it....I own a landscaping business and a golf instruction studio.... BEING YOUR OWN BOSS IS HARD AS FUCK.... BUT I DON'T HAVE THE PERSONALITY TO WORK FOR ANYBODY ELSE SO JUST GOTTA GRIND AND PROVIDE

[@xRvben]

FaZe Pamaj bot

[@pickcherry]

“Being your own boss is the hardest job”, still almost as dumb as your previous statement. As someone who was their own boss for years - no, just no. “Being your own boss is difficult” - yeah fair enough. The “hardest” jobs are ones that are dangerous, low paid, taking you away from your family with sometime no way of communicating with them. I never had so much freedom than when I was my own boss. Compare streaming being your own boss, working in a nice house playing video games, eating takeaway and chatting with friends whenever you feel like it... vs something like being away at sea, fishing in a hostile environment, working 18 hour days or a soldier on foreign soil on the front lines (IRL, not cod)... Jobs that have associated hazards which have the potential to seriously injure you or end your life, jobs with little creature comforts from home, with often low income. Your stance is selfish, with little thought behind your words (I hope...). It really is a perspective which is warped and out of touch with reality.

[@dekzz1530]

FaZe Pamaj Not really lol relax

[@coleton65]

Losing the optic brand was definitely one of the toughest thing that hecz and the fellas have been put through but I truly believe the growth through it was worth it. I feel like they grew a lot as individuals as well as a group through this.

[@DECAYED-]

Damn man I miss the days.. life goes on but the memories won’t die

[@winterB92]

Love how much pamaj had spratts back.

[@nibardorodriguez488]

It’s lit Pamaj in the building 🙏🏼🔥

[@victorobs9827]

Pamaj brings back so many memories ❤️

[@dalesfailssagaofasuslord783]

Never knew he helped out kids like that, major props. I hope he’s ok. He’s been looking so skinny lately.

[@offdoz]

Long lost big bro’s! A lot of wisdom here thank you -Deep

[@connor9295]

I'm sure being a content creator is difficult, but the most difficult job on the planet? Behave, Pam.

[@DanyBizzyD]

His Deviance like bill burr says, any job that you can do in your pajamas is not hard.

[@rko_legends5141]

@@TwoTugTy no streaming isnt easy if you think it is go for partner on twitch and tell me how long it takes you to get there.

[@ee1yd]

@@rko_legends5141 its not hard, stream consistently, produce meme content, profit

[@TheFarikoLogic]

Dylly you are so stupid lmaoooo go get Partnered 😂

[@rko_legends5141]

@@TheFarikoLogic lmfao right bet mans not even affiliated

[@LoGiCcLaN2]

isn’t it crazy how underrated Hitch is as a videographer and editor?

[@LeKretch]

Ngl these clips are better than the full podcasts imo

[@jayycrz3808]

Orrrrrrrr you have a small attention span ? Lol

[@LeKretch]

@@jayycrz3808 or I dont want want to listen to all the umming and arring and uninteresting topics. Hence why hecz uploads the highlights to this channel for us all to watch?

[@YaBetterCallBabu07]

Both of them seem like a smart guys. Smart to still be cool with people youre no longer working together with, even when they leave for a competitive organization. Keep doors open for interviews like this and potentially more in the future.

[@lamardenzy55]

When you washed your hands of it, infinite kept screwing up. As long as they have optic in their name they will be the biggest villains of esports. Fake ass green wall

[@TherealWottie]

I used to have a vid of Pamaj sending me a video messaged at a party after Anaheim! Wish I never lost that phone... :/

[@PascalLuchs]

Ever heard of cloud

[@TherealWottie]

P. Luchs yeah this was like 3 years ago never used cloud 😂

[@grantgutierrez2991]

whats the mexico thing he's talking about?

[@ledegraw]

My favorite yet Hecz nice.

[@a02endless15]

This has to be old , Optic is no more ! NRG !!

[@Ziplock95]

its just a highlight video of the Eavesdrop podcast, cut into topic segments for this channel :)

[@beerdo]

NRG is no more! OpTic!

[@alancrome3684]

Giving kids scholarships, little things. TF bro it's insanely huge, even 2K can pay for food for an entire year at a school lol

[@kindacolt]

oh pammy

[@r3cnsniper545]

Pamaj is still one of my favorite snipers next to predator those two were who got me watching more optic content in the beginning

[@MrSlvr2000]

I'm super sad to see Optic go the direction it did. Hecz, your pretty much the reason (at my age) I even followed along with an esports or brand house for gaming. I felt like like you had your head right where it should of been, laid back guy but could take that hat off and put on that business suit when needed. Congrats with all your accomplishments and being able to turn your hobby I to a career. Few and far between. After 15+ years in a cost/project controls career I hope before I get to far up there I can use the skills and resources to enter the gaming industry. Cheers!!

[@kroozctrl6284]

@11:47 you guys heard it here first straight from Pamaj, playing video games for a living “is the hardest jobs.” Not going to Iraq to fight terrorist. Not engineering, where if you make one bad calculation you can kill hundreds of people. Not being a chef and cooking 12 hours a day to have a non existent social life. Or how about working 14 hours shifts as nurse or a MD. Naw, based on “years of research” sitting in front of a fucking computer screen to play video games for 8 hours, then hiring another dude to edit your videos for KZbin “is the hardest fucking job.”

[@plus2golfer12]

Lol.... I'm a trained chef...I KNOW THE PAIN!!!! THAT'S WHY I NOW OWN A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS AND GOLF INSTRUCTION STUDIO....I ONLY COOK FOR MY FAMILY NOW

[@Delustering]

Physically you don't have to do much but being constantly in the limelight has its cons, if you really think its that easy then do it. Especially in this situation where optic was essentially turned from something human to a large corporation with no soul.

[@kroozctrl6284]

Delustering uuhhh no, you obviously didn’t comprehend. Pamaj said it was the hardest fucking job. Which it isn’t. Saying that bullshit must mean he’s been a engineer. I highly doubt he’ll last a 30 days. Highly doubt he can last a week as a chef. At least fucking xcal knows when he’s out classed. And xcal streams daily just like Pamaj. I never said it was so easy. The premise of my complaint is his imbecilic comment. Saying it’s the hardest fucking job. Where I can name off the top of my head at least 10 that are more physical and mentally draining. Oh here’s another example Bigtymer’s day trading. Stock market and currency flipping isn’t just something you turn on a switch and let a compute datamine prime numbers for you. Pamaj is void, because he lived with BigT who actually day traded. Engineer, nurse, MD, chef, day trader, CEO of a company of 100+ employees, music producer, marine, singer/actor, and teacher. You know that teachers for the first 10 years are in a fight or fly situation. Build a lesson plan, grade papers, tutoring, etc. you think they have 3 months of vacation in the summer? No, they have 1 true month. If Pamaj wanted to retire right now. He can with zero economic repercussion. If a teacher does that they are screwed. Now let’s bring up a college professor. Yes, they have TAs to grade hw and tests. But for lectures, it’s all them. And not only that they have to do research; submit a thesis regularly. Your argument, Pamaj’s is NOT sound.

[@dny21danny]

Are these just clips of unreleased podcasts? I would love to see all the podcasts

[@colegrandstaff3848]

no this podcast was about a year ago. one of the first ones actually look it up . :)

[@React2Quick]

No one's that have been released for sometime now

[@jordanhelveston1153]

Anyone know the guy Hecz is talking about that was talking shit on twitter?

[@jetpackereric9836]

Does anyone know the details of the “Mexico” situation? I’ve heard it been brought a couple of times

[@CCC13452]

Pamaj got his booty eaten

[@geem036]

If I remember correctly, apparently Infinite and J weren't to fond of Aaron aka Create, and they wanted to drop him. Hitch knew that so he vouched for him and for the time being Infinite and J decided not to do it. Later on though, the gears team had an event in Mexico so H3cz and Hitch went with them. While in Mexico, J fired Aaron and Hitch was pissed because he knew they waited for him to leabe3 to Mexico to fire Aaron so he couldn't do anything to stop it.

[@CCC13452]

Geem0 wrong.

[@CCC13452]

Rolando and they wanted to lick his butt (pamaj) remember

[@quanyguns]

@@CCC13452 Oh yeah! I remember

[@JR-kv6ez]

Has Hecz ever spoken about why he sold Optic in the first place?

[@kingchris7519]

To keep it short it was just to expand

[@JR-kv6ez]

@@kingchris7519 I see. Thanks, that's unfortunate.

[@yungtragedy9840]

It wasnt just that he fucked up a deal

[@_MARSyt]

Man the real chant should be FAWK INFINITE

[@zachpomara5376]

Watching this after hearing the news about Pamaj leaving faze and hoping everything that was said in the first 1:30 actually happens! ☺️

[@tim7191]

Why are these being re-uploaded?

[@NotToClutch]

Views

[@NotToClutch]

Money

[@mike2628]

Probably convince, so people don’t have to watch the whole podcast for the info that they want

[@josuepecina8055]

All of the above

[@tim7191]

@@mike2628 why would he re upload a video that was already on this channel and renamed it

[@milwaukee6023]

Everytime pamaj says house

[@micahmosley]

Well water in Texas hits different

[@ChemistRNS]

Where is Swanny these days? He was streaming blackout with teep early this year then he went awol and I never heard from him again. Hope he's still playing man he was nasty af

[@sh4dowchas3r]

He played a bit of Blackout with Formal early in September, though he didn't stream himself.

[@dahizzy7010]

Re upload ???

[@plus2golfer12]

Why did hecz say come back to optic??? You're NRG now homie

[@harpful-4981]

Plus2 Golfer it’s an old podcast homie

[@plus2golfer12]

@@harpful-4981 uploaded yesterday.. That's old???.. Damn time really does fly on the internet

[@Arcaviiouse]

@@plus2golfer12 it is recorded before hecz left

[@zssgames]

Plus2 Golfer this clip was uploaded yesterday. The podcast the clip is from was uploaded almost a year ago.

[@plus2golfer12]

@@zssgames oh ok that makes sense

[@-_-Code-_-]

im sorry but going back and rewatching this it feels like hecz is just making excuses for himself, not to explain it to pamaj but to try and lie to himself.. 7:31

[@Aliasrip]

“Hardest job” well bud I’ll take over for you if it’s too much

[@DanyBizzyD]

Funny how all the people with university titles on marketing and business infinite hired literally destroyed optic beyond belief. They now get like 2k views on KZbin on a 1 M sub channel. I hope pamaj joins the huntsmen

[@Doubclub]

Hardest job ehhhh I think you can respect that profession for it's difficulty though it's like any other profession when your the top of the top gotta maintain

[@therealrobin8128]

never heard Pamaj's canadian accent

[@Seraph89_]

You mean the Mexican voice?

[@hellboymax]

@@Seraph89_ hes not mexican tf lmaoo

[@Seraph89_]

Max C. Ppl say we all sound Mexican, I just thought you were referring to that XD

[@Zenpia]

@@Seraph89_ Who ever told you that they are dumb dumb dumb

[@chewbakkah7144]

Lol hardest job clip.....

[@arcadiagreen150]

This man has never had an actual job. Where work is harder and pay is lower. And you CAN'T take 3 month long "hiatus". I've worked full time for 15 years and have never taken more than 3 days off at a time. I've never had a vacation ever.

[@JoonTheBug]

@@arcadiagreen150 If that isnt by choice then that sounds like hell man. I hope you can get some more freedom in the future.

[@solidarity2049]

I don’t agree with Pam, but I also don’t disagree

[@toxicclion28]

He looks so different

[@kingsrky3931]

Did this fool actually just say a content creator is a hard job 😂 behave pamaj you clearly never worked another job in your life then

[@Delustering]

Yup its so easy to schedule videos, talk to sponsors, change your living arrangements because of a new companies presence in your organization etc. Very hard to go work for someone doing a tangible task instead of making your dreams come true after years and years of grinding with no pay. Its not nearly as easy as you think it is

[@jasoncooke3557]

Wow not the hardest job I respect the grind it is but not the hardest many many jobs that are way more difficult

[@edgarnavarro8357]

They risk their lives for this guys 😂😂😂😂 hardest job in the world... bunch Prima donnas.. don’t get me wrong I love the entertainment they supply me but let’s take it down a notch or 2.. it’s not that big of a deal

[@TNTSID]

Guess Pamaj will be joining NRG Next! Lol

[@plus2golfer12]

It's crazy hope all these ESPORTS people and social media people talk about 2-4-6-8 years like it's a lifetime and in real life it's literally no time

[@zssgames]

Plus2 Golfer a lot of esports players especially nowadays have been grinding since ages as low as 13 to get their names out there and get ready to play on teams. So you could see why a lot of them talk about it like a lifetime, they might have only been on teams for maybe 5 years(hypothetical) but they’ve been playing and grinding for much longer than that.

[@ShaneTheProdigy]

Bro unsub from the optic channel

[@zoobieloobie3646]

Fame got to pamaj's head. Content is downhill, bad energy just sucks now overall.

[@larrymotogprules1945]

12:00 mark, come on dude "hardest job in the world" love your content but you way out of touch.

[@maplic]

"Hardest job in the world", "Put our lives at stake" Pamaj, you have never in your life had a real world job, you're living in a fairy tale bubble. Get out of here with that hyperbolic bullshit. You get paid 7 digits to PLAY VIDEO GAMES. Tell that sentence to a miner, a welder, a mechanic, a shipbuilder, anyone who actually has formed a callus on their hands in their life and you'll lose your teeth. Statements like that, and the followup statement "respect it" are the reasons you have no respect from others.

[@beerdo]

If you get mad cause someone said their career is hard, you're just upset you have to work a job you need, and not a career you want. 😂

[@Kevonchy]

It’s not the hardest job ! Set up the NRG or Faze meeting for me

[@Delustering]

Def not the hardest but, if you really think you could do it go ahead and try. Nobody is going to come cherry pick your ass out of millions of people and get you an interview. You have to bring numbers to the table it doesnt matter how funny you are unless you have a strong following at the end of the day.

[@GrandGhostman]

Can we get a FAWK J IN THE CHAT

[@clay_ox]

#NRGLove #FuckNewOptic

[@walkerpartin2135]

The hardest job in the world.... for real? I get that it can be draining and hard, but the hardest job in the world? not a chance. There are people putting their life on the line every day getting paid way less then any member of optic. man check your privilege.

[@mannyfresh5185]

Who else hits like before the video starts ? Lol

[@liketheterminatortoldya7297]

Just a question why hasn't pamaj gone pro we all know he has the ability to be

[@chrisvazquez8284]

like the terminator told ya not what he’s tryna do

[@cartersinclair2148]

Hardest job from someone’s who’s never had a job

[@JR-kv6ez]

I really hate when someone says their job is the hardest job in the world.

[@clemsin]

Lol it’s toxic to live in a mansion playing video games for a living? LOL OK DUDE

[@Zenpia]

Wym

[@devinharris591]

Clemsin Ikr he is very spoiled and doesn’t realize it

[@React2Quick]

Not toxic but it probably gets old. You deal with everyone's bullshit, you really don't have any kind of privacy. People barging into your door trying to stick a camera in your face. Etc.

[@gingerbeardactual]

These two ... psh the reason I play COD. I’m terrible just FYI.

[@bertomanalich]

Hardest job in the world. Get the f out of here dude.

[@jeffbrewer5648]

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[@dominique9054]

lol hardest job

[@maxrothgaber8574]

Hardest job in the world?? Lmfao ok go join the army my guy

[@tim7191]

First time being second

[@luckypickle7789]

First

[@saudis616]

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