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[@FonVegen]

"Making a sacrifice to the gods" is how cooking shall from now on be referred to.

[@Jake9066]

I make this sacrifice to the gods, on whose behalf I humbly accept.

[@hallofguns8174]

Well, Odin is famous for sacrificing himself to himself. Repeatedly.

[@kingofdragons7]

Well, you will have to burn your food

[@HBHaga]

Hermes' staff is called the caduceus and was a symbol of couriers and messengers. The rod of Asclepius, a staff with a single serpent coiled around it, was the symbol for healers and physicians. These started to get conflated in the 16th century and really took hold in the U.S. when the Army Medical Corps started using the caduceus in 1902. Also, Hermes holy headgear was originally a kind of traveller's hat called a petasos with the wings added in later. I think it was the Romans that turned it into a helmet but I'm not 100% certain of that.

[@Historyfrek4ever]

Romans practiced syncretism because they wanted to stay on the gods good side. It was easier to say that: “we have the same gods but just different names”, because that way they could claim to be sacrificing and having been sacrificing to them instead of just adding another set of gods to their pantheon when they conquered someone. (Their pantheon would have gotten really plotted.) Plus it created unity.

[@thevoidismyhome7242]

This actually makes sense, and when you consider that much of Rome's ruling stance on other cultures was "you keep doing you, just under new management", it would make sense that all they would do is say "your gods are our gods" and move on, because either way you look at it, nobody is skimping. The new culture is worshipping Rome's Gods, just under that culture's names, and the Romans are worshipping those new Gods, just under Rome's names.

[@Historyfrek4ever]

@@thevoidismyhome7242 It’s an interesting chicken-and-an-egg situation. Romans were very superstitious and thus didn’t want to anger any gods. This let the beings, in a way, tolerate towards others religions thusly securing their rule. Which could be seen as gods favouring their rule. Or were they first tolerant and later explained it through superstition? (Definitely superstitious first since the started human sacrificing when a books told them to. Sibylline Books.)

[@MsFlyingSnake]

Funny thing about the medicine. Hermes was not a god of medicine. The medical staff is the Staff of Asclepius which had a single snake. But someone made an error around the time of one of the World Wars and put the symbol for Messengers on the Medical gear. It stuck. But. Apollo was the god of medicine and he gave the caduceus to Hermes. So it still works! It's wild the way it came back around.

[@4wheal]

Funny enough Tolkin actually used Odin as a base for Gandalf mostly because he had a habit of appearing before people as a old man with a hat and staf. I am guessing Odin might have been linked with Mercury because both were trickster by nature as well as the underworld aspects

[@WraythSkitzofrenik]

"Im assuming Zeus did something..." Well it IS Greek mythology...

[@mikukurisaki3413]

"That's gotta be slang but I dunno how it'd fit" one might say... Pan/Hermes had the... stones?

[@Airier]

😎👍

[@Archris17]

31:42 Odin actually had a LOT of different names, names being a Big Deal in Norse beliefs as holding power. And Tolkien, being the enormous mythology nerd he was, FLAT-OUT STOLE several, such as the names of the dwarfs. One of those names for Odin was, oddly enough, Gandalfr.

[@MasterZeus94]

31:50 My dude... my bro, my friend... Who do you think Gandalf is representing in Tolkien's world!?

[@geonunes10]

This connection between Odin and Mercury is reflected in modern language. In Spanish Wednesday is Miercoles, and in Italian and French it's something similar to Spanish. For those who don't know, Wednesday is derived from Odin's day and Miercoles is derived from Mercury.

[@KimFareseed]

Wednesday, or Onsdag as it is in Sweden.

[@josephdavis9234]

War god: Norse Tyr, Roman Mars. Tuesday, martes. Storm god: Norse Thor, Roman Jupiter. Thursday, jueves. Love goddess: Norse Freya, Roman Venus. Friday, viernes.

[@vladprus4019]

To give more context on the English and Romance names of the dawys of the week: Originally, those names of days came from Latin, and they were named after the planets (moon and sun were counted among them). Later, when the Germanic peoples adopted Roman week, they took the Latin names, but translated it. Since the names of the planets were often taken form Roman gods, they were just replaced with the Germanic counterparts. The days and corresponding planets were: Sun - Sunday Moon - Monday (those two were more directly translated for the names of the celestial bodies, no gods involved) Mars - Tuesday Mercury - Wednesday Jupiter - Thursday Venus - Friday Saturn - Saturday (this one wasn't really translated into English)

[@crimsonfucker4167]

9:11 this is a much later telling of the story. In the older one Hermes bested Arges in a fight and when he tried to flee Hermes killed him. This ties in the otherside to Hermes being the herder since like real world herders for much of history were also raiders who stole cattle and livestock of others.

[@FonVegen]

That map you had trouble reading because of the overlay and assumed was Greece was... the Roman Empire, shown on a map of the Mediterranean and surrounding lands.

[@monkeyking7972]

Io is one of Zeus's many one night stands and Zeus turned her into a cow so he won’t get caught by Hera because there’s no way Zeus would sleep with an cow…

[@AmericanBrit9834]

He would totally sleep with someone AS a cow. Or Bull in Europa's case

[@monkeyking7972]

@@AmericanBrit9834 or a snake

[@AmericanBrit9834]

@@monkeyking7972 Dear god, who suffered that fate?

[@monkeyking7972]

@@AmericanBrit9834 Persephone Edit: he also slept with Rhea as a snake. Rhea is his mother.

[@AmericanBrit9834]

@@monkeyking7972 GOD F*CKING DAMMIT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@fantasy873]

Red also did a deep dive into the myth of Hades and Persephone which had me on cloud day because that is my favorite myth. Yeah I know Hades kidnapped her, but at least he shows her more respect than Zeus and Poseidon show to their own wives! And if you're going to marry one of the big three might as well go for the one with the dog in my opinion.

[@crimsonfucker4167]

25:26 almost all greek male gods were portrayed as being in the prime of life (30s) especially Zeus, it was only later on did they start being portrayed as either old bearded or youthful-looking.

[@Dostoron]

That cow is Io, a human princess Zeus of course impregnated, he transformed her to hide her, Hera wasn't fooled and posted Argus to keep her there. Zeus enlisted Hermes to spring her.

[@crimsonfucker4167]

11:52 male genitalia being drawn or carved on things was used as sort of a protective charm against the ruinous forces such as infertility and such.

[@Crazael]

31:53 To be fair... Gandalf's visual design is heavily inspired by Odin...

[@tomasrolter6729]

3:35 As far as I remember, Odin trumped this by sacrificing himself for himself.

[@FubukiTheIcyKing]

I want a time machine to just bring back ancient texts and art just we can learn more.

[@gokbay3057]

5:39 Those are lyrics from Take Me Home, Country Roads. aka the West Virginia song.

[@anzaca1]

12:46 The theatrical criticism bit is referring to how critics will "pan" something if its very bad.

[@BrittanyArtPoetry]

Do Blues history of the entirety of Rome, it’s amazing, and goes through so much, including how Romulus and Remus as an origin story influenced the Roman Culture. It’s really cool.

[@Nevri.]

Recommendation: Medea video. Trope Talk.

[@Nevri.]

Finally. No clue what word exactly triggers YT so much, but I just wanted to recommend those. First goes really hard and other is a nice series focused more on writing analyze.

[@samrevlej9331]

31:42 Well, Gandalf IS inspired by Odin so not wrong.

[@shelbybayer200]

Fun fact: Io is the basis for Yukari Takabe from Persona 3's Persona Io The cow part is referenced by the Pink girl part of the Persona is sitting on the Head of a Cow

[@pokemonmaster1505]

Aren't her wrists also chained to the cow head, showing that's she's trapped in that form?

[@khylerbane4523]

Hermes in mythology: “Hi I’m Hermes and welcome to Jackass.”

[@Rainears129]

So Blue actually has an old video that has an incident that shows how important Herms were in Ancient Greece: Alcibiades. It's one of the older videos of his, but it did introduce us to a character that will be referenced a few times in the extended OSP fandom. (Oh, and Blue can speak at least some Greek, so he probably helped with the translation of the game of telephone in this video). As for Hades not having many negative character traits... that'll be covered in Red's video on Hades and Persephone, but pretty much, Hades is one of the youngest Greek gods we have on record. And this is not the last time you will hear about Hermes=Odin.

[@DDlambchop43]

oh, the Alcibiades vid is amazing! I so wanna see a reaction to that.

[@DDlambchop43]

just wanna say, I had a Mercury as my first car. It was basically a police car with softer suspension. Lasted nearly 20 yrs too, super reliable. Shame the brand is extinct now.

[@lessonslearned2569]

Well the deity of the Underworld itself, as in the place is Erubus in greek and because mineral wealth comes from the earth, he (or it) is also a deity of wealth, like Pluton. So it might be that when the Romans synchritized the deities they merged Hades (which is also the name of the place that is both the underworld and within it) and Erebus. And yes Erebus is also the primordial darkness or just darkness.

[@tadeolaguarda6965]

Planes are the safest way of travel in existance, way more likely to die on a boat, a car, a bike or just walking that flying.

[@PM-ov9sg]

Well the Loki video does do that.

[@LynxLord1991]

Trickery is also a huge part of the Norse stories

[@HannahBanina]

Please tell me you’re gonna watch and upload The Five Suns at a later date and were just really eager to get to the next Deity Deep-Dive. I need to hear your reactions to Xipe Totec and everything Red has to say about Cipactli. I would really hate to get a repeat of Amaterasu, Mt. Mayon, and Ra’s nighttime journey where the footage was just lost; blood sacrifices keep the earth from eating your feet.

[@lilmallison2531]

If you like those deep dives on specific gods there's also one on Hades and Persephone + Artemis and Apollo if you haven't seen them

[@Mangalore620]

To be fair, I think the helmet thing about his helmet looking like a World War I bucket helmet. If I remember correctly, I think I heard somewhere at one point that the helmets that reward during World War I were sort of like based on that maybe if I remember what I heard, correct

[@therubberducktube]

Once you head back to Blue's domain, I can only recommend "History Summarized: Alcibiades". The oracle at delphi simply tells him, "congratulations". The standard of nudity was his idea. Narcissus gets shy around him. Patroclus was his boyfriend first. He is… the most interesting man in Ancient Greece.

[@elizabethlee2136]

I love this one, but this is one of the last Greek God deepdives. I sad

[@EG-hy9mv]

There's the twins much later down the line

[@Theturtleowl]

You have heard of Maya. The month May was named after her.

[@seanfulldark]

Look when I first listened to this story I still hear Hermes voice as stewie please tell me I'm not the only one!

[@danny5551000]

33:48 HA! cause hes so " well equipped"

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a TaleFoundry and Vaush fan!

[@dragonjaj]

Madusa was so beutifle she was cursed to turn men to stone making them rock hard..... 100% greeks made the joke

[@Blahblah97555]

New JTTW dropped!

[@okidokidraws]

I was going to say tricky hero being like Bilbo Baggins XD words like Pandemonium comes from Pan too Gandalf was based off Odin i think.

[@crimsonfucker4167]

26:06 nope they just appear the same since they are both Indo-European deities thus sharing many similarities and themes. Also not to be an ass or anything but why would you assume that roman did not have their own original deities when literally everyone else had??

[@vladprus4019]

It's probably generally speaking has something to do with the Roman gods are being taught more often as basically "Roman names" or "Roman versions" of Greek gods and less the gods on their own. The fact that Romans themselves in later periods syncretized them with Greek ones even harder doesn't help.

[@greatazuredragon]

Great episode. Happy holidays.

[@ethancoltrane5754]

I still wanna know the name of the music at 18:59.

[@Ioannis-malewitch]

A similar situation to Pluton is when the Latins translated the Titan Cronus (Κρόνος) and the personification and god of time "chronos"(χρόνος). "Χρόνος" literally means "time" and is pronounced with a hard "h" like the German "ch". But the Latins didn't pronounce that so they called him "Kronos" as well. So they combined them .And the confusion still continues in English...🙄(I am greek by the way and it frustrates me)

[@cyberdragoon1432]

Welp… we can probably guess what this upcoming Saturday will be

[@thevoidismyhome7242]

27:55 I think what this is saying is "God and truth, the common sense that all humans have, tell us to not believe that there are other gods (Lucrii) who command/watch over the pursuit of money/sex/knowledge/etc, knowing as we [those who believe in Christian God] do that the pursuit of money/sex/knowledge/etc comes from Lusty places and at the expense of other people"

[@Bezaliel13]

Hermes, the smuggest baby

[@StaticCharge-cheese]

NEW JOURNEY TO THE WEST UPLOAD, I KNOW IT'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE HOURS BUT STILL....

[@Thefirstcommenter]

Utter insanity identified in "vg myths can you beat super mario wonder without collecting a coin" by gamechamp 3000.

[@Shideous]

I wondered where the English learned their tradition. They studied the Romans way of doing things.

[@CommissarMitch]

The most ironic thing about Mercury is that the planet named after him travels the least.

[@anzaca1]

But it orbits the fastest.

[@CommissarMitch]

@@anzaca1 Fair point.

[@Thefirstcommenter]

Gamechamp3000s brand new coinless mario wonder challenge run is recommended by me.

[@justsomeguywithascarf8809]

That does NOT look like a knee from thumbnail

[@Airier]

I mean, it does fit the context of Hermes' myth...

[@MySerpentine]

Hey, Odin sacrificed *himself* to himself, so . . .

[@AzulSora]

Sooo... what you're saying is that Adonis killed Pan... Kinda

[@raquelalejandrapatinoojeda8334]

YAY, HERMES! God of many jobs. I was gonna make this comment about the caduceus but someone beat me to it.

[@bobbycoleman-co7mc]

When are you gonna watch Blues stuff again?

[@Airier]

Not sure. I'll probably switch over soon, if only because I want more context on his side of the vids. 😊

[@crimsonfucker4167]

33:25 yeah sure kidnapping someone to be your wife is obviously not a character flaw at all.

[@discipleoflorddionysus1411]

Hi can i ask you something who / which god is your most favorite in mythology my is Dionysus please let me know

[@mister_dadstersays_hi7372]

Day 15 of asking Airier for ENA reaction (I am inevitable)