Panasonic EVA1 - Real Life Test & Review with Wildlife Footage

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@rrfilmproductionOfficial
@rrfilmproductionOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that detailed explanations, and fantastic footage. I really appreciate your hard work to inform us, and educate us at this early stage. Love it.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you kind words Ron… much apprecheated
@smalltalk.productions9977
@smalltalk.productions9977 6 жыл бұрын
very thoughtfully done. thank you for the effort and the share. i also found some of the footage was absolutely stunning so thumbs up again!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers… appreciate it. I will upload something cool tonight… stay tubed ;-)
@fastcars3483
@fastcars3483 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice, I am an owner of Eva and I try to join to your FB group about 1 week and nobody is confirms my subscription..
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 2 жыл бұрын
We added people all the time… if you don’t answer the question (bot screener) you will not be admitted.
@fastcars3483
@fastcars3483 2 жыл бұрын
@@MediaDivision thanks, happy new year 🎆
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year!!!
@michaelrempel9025
@michaelrempel9025 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you are exploring the new firmware with us when it comes out. So far this is still my favorite reference video for EVA. I dont always want such depth and sharpness but I do want to be able to go get it.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
Now that is nice of you! I will definitely come up with something when I can get hold of the firmaware… of course, I will need to wait until Atomos will release their firmware, too.... so, I have no idea when that will be. Just like you, I really wonder what advantages the raw will give us … if any in this steaming world ;-)
@LightWthoutTheStatic
@LightWthoutTheStatic 7 жыл бұрын
Those colors are so beautiful. Nicely done.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you… yeah, I thing the colors are EVAs strong side ;-)
@CalebWojcik
@CalebWojcik 7 жыл бұрын
Solid review. Thanks for all the hard work put into this one.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Caleb… my pleasure
@SaladinGucman
@SaladinGucman 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible shots
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks you Saladin!
@leeellerker1855
@leeellerker1855 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, looking forward to the next video when you have time
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure... will surely come!
@GENESISTVPRO
@GENESISTVPRO 6 жыл бұрын
Whatch you from Russia. You're content perfect. And accent awesome
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
thanks... I'm trying to avoid an accent... obviously without success ;-)
@johnnydingo8680
@johnnydingo8680 4 жыл бұрын
@@MediaDivision Nope your accent is just perfect, do not get rid of it :) Besides your English is also perfect, so it's a match.
@B_T_B
@B_T_B 5 жыл бұрын
As said below. Frames broke up on panning. Let's not forget what an amazing job you did on the rest of the closeup shots. Utterly superb. Again watching this in the future. I would say export it again with the same music without the explanation. Post that to youtube and facebook .. see what happens ;)
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 5 жыл бұрын
Did... it is in the "films" playlist... and I can tell you what happens.... nothing. After years of doing social media, I can assure you that nobody cares for films like that outside the context of a camera or a lens.
@video652
@video652 7 жыл бұрын
It looks really good,. It's starting to show what the EVA1 can produce. Thanks for sharing.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frederick... sometimes you need a good subject to make an image look good
@DavisTibbz
@DavisTibbz 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful color
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Davis
@bobuk5722
@bobuk5722 7 жыл бұрын
Hi. Very good choice of location and talents! I guess forests are dark places so diffused low light at times is realistic for your laid back artists as well as a good camera test. Their gorgeous colourful fine hair makes a great resolution test as well and I'll be looking at your excellent production on a large screen. Thany you for starting this very informative series. Bob.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Robert.... they certainly stole my heart!
@noahyv
@noahyv 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah there definitely seemed to be something odd going on with the 120fps footage and 240fps footage. The tree detail didn't look so bad but the hair detail was completely gone. Seems like a codec issue most likely... This actually inspired me to go back to my EVA1 test footage and check bitrates and I found a very weird issue where in 50Mbps mode the 120fps footage is actually 40Mbps and the 240fps footage is actually only 20Mbps. Oddly, subjectively the 240fps footage I shot didn't seem to have the severe sharpness issue I see in this test. Hopefully Panasonic will fix this. Can you check what bitrate your HFR footage was actually encoded at? And what modes were you in for your 120fps and 240fps? Mix for 120fps and mix+crop for 240fps? No chance you were in mix+crop for both?
@timm2020
@timm2020 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful footage!!! Very crisp.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you… If you want crisp, the GH5 is a little bit crisper out of the cam. EVA does a cinematic image that is a bit softer. Higher resolution results in a smoother imager (yes I know, sounds counter intuitive)… more details but less "crisp" (sharp)
@VishnuAttiappan
@VishnuAttiappan 7 жыл бұрын
There's some green glitchy frames here and there in this video buddy if you notice. Anyways, good content as always :)
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah... ProRes from Premiere fucks up sometimes… not bad enough to do the 4 hour export again ;-) Thanks for the warning and the flowers
@VishnuAttiappan
@VishnuAttiappan 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure brother :)
@IslandFilmMaker
@IslandFilmMaker 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful footage, very clean and good dynamic range in low light! Love that 2500 ISO magic switch ;)
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
totally… i was surprised when I went in post… I expected to always get more grain after switching up… and got less in many. Magic!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard
@AlexTabachnyy
@AlexTabachnyy 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much for your great reviews. If possible would you please show us the following: 1. Switching Gain/ISO is it stepped or is it smooth? 2. IRIS Stepps on canon lenses and may be other lenses if you have. 3. 1-Push Auto Focus, or any Auto Focus ability it has. 4. White balance switching/dialing while recording, is it stepped or smooth? 5. Built in microphone sound quality These things would be so valuable and we would greatly appreciate it.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Alex… Thank you so much… very motivating I have very little time at the moment, but let me try to just answer your questions from experience: 1. Switching ISO is definitely visible… especially the 800 to 2500 native switch as it is a massive jump. Of course you can work against that in post… like you would with time lapse. 2. The IRIS steps depend on the lens… My Sigma 18-35 is visible and audible, the Sigma 100-400 is smooth. I only own one cheap old Canon lens (75-300), IRIS steps are is visible and audible. A manual IRIS lens is the best solution 3. Consider Auto Focus to be non existent on this cam. The push to focus is not even reliable as helper. 4. WB can be set in single digit increments, but as far as I have tested, not during recording. 5. Who cares ;-) No, I have a hard time to judge that. Not good enough for anything but reference… that is just the way internal mics are. I use lavalier mics.
@andregant9980
@andregant9980 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting the video my friend!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Andre
@fherkm
@fherkm 6 жыл бұрын
Hello! What do you think about Depth of Field Eva´s performance VS GH5?
@Marty426
@Marty426 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, We got the EVA last week. Love it. Just wondering about something. Da Vinci 14 lite doesn't seem to recognise the footage out of the camera. Does the studio version? No problems so far with the atomos though. So was just wondering is the free da Vinci 14 not optimised for the longGOP out of the camera? Cheers in advance
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats Marty… it's a lovely cam. Only the studio version supports the EVA1 internal codecs. At 250,- a bargain that offers noise reduction and HDR grading, too (can't do that with the free version). Otherwise EditReady will give you ProRes conversion (don't forget to set profile to "data" within resolve) or you crush the blacks/whites.
@Marty426
@Marty426 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh thought so. I have a ninja flame and have used that. I was just curious about the internal codec and Da Vinci. Cheers, yip the studio version is great value
@AlexLopez-iy4by
@AlexLopez-iy4by 7 жыл бұрын
Lovely work! Thank you for sharing.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex!
@419filmsLLC
@419filmsLLC 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love to see more. Danke!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you George!!!! As time comes... I have lot's of work at this time and unfortunately it is only few film jobs in the near future. But I surely will... thanks for keeping me motivated :-)
@fredcarvalho692
@fredcarvalho692 4 жыл бұрын
Yours shots are amazing! Any chance to make a vídeo for bmpcc 4K?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man.... I don't own one, so, no. The latest gen of cameras is so good that it really doesn't matter any more in terms of IQ. Practical things become more important
@pharmabuse6135
@pharmabuse6135 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your footage and impressions, Nicolas. Noticed some flicker in the panning shots, and aliasing in the closeups. What are your thoughts on how to mitigate these?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
Shure thing… actually I don't notice either… and certainly not aliasing (coming from 5.7K with low pass filter). A player, display, etc problem?
@TheSanibelCaptivaGuide
@TheSanibelCaptivaGuide 7 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks. To bad about the high frame rate capabilities, I would think this should be a major feature in a camera in this price point.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
like I sad... other motive, more light and there is something
@constantinelycouris2325
@constantinelycouris2325 5 жыл бұрын
I am an aspiring wildlife camerman. Bummer about the 240 not being adequate... does anyone know how they manage to get such incredible slow motion shots in the high quality nature docs? would something like an Atomos help sharpen the image by allowing 240 in 2K RAW?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 5 жыл бұрын
Look at the date of this video… it is old and much has been with FW updates since. The internal recording of high FPS has been vastly improved and you get internal 4K 60fps the 2K RAW with shogun looks good and has been improved since: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYWtqq2PiN2leKs For super high fps you have to go with a Phantom (usually rental) or you just wair a coiuple of years. The Kinefinity MAVO LF has very nice RAW high FPS options (crops, too)
@clifftotten7609
@clifftotten7609 7 жыл бұрын
Nice detail in the textures. Whew! I was a little worried because this is something I had not seen allot of in other EVA-1 videos to date. Looks good, did you add any sharpening? Image stabilization? It's tough to get out on the long end without it. Very nice job!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cliff...the main feature has an unsharp mask applied... like you would, if you want a sharp image, like you wouldn't want in narrative. Same for Arri, RED
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Ah… and I forgitt… sometimes lens stabi… sometimes EIS (but more for extra crop)… stability through goos tripod. You can see wobble from me pulling focus sometimes
@lukaslindner2036
@lukaslindner2036 7 жыл бұрын
looking pretty good! I was wondering what settings you used concerning internal noise reduction especially in the 120fps shots.To me the softness of the image didn't look like a compression issue (no artifacts etc.) but rather than a problem with the level of internal noise reduction that was applied. I might be wrong but I'd still be interested in your settings and how the EVA handles noise reduction internally in general! Cheers and thanks for your great content!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lukas… I never use any internal noise reduction and as far as I know, the EVA is on no NR in all settings by default. I applied Resolve NR to about 3 scenes in the hole pice as the where underexposed and a bit grainy… still usable as you can see.
@lukaslindner2036
@lukaslindner2036 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response, that's certainly interesting! I am a bit shocked by the 120fps footage especially because I've seen much better looking clips (mainly 240fps though)...
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
I can only repeat myself F6 in less then bright condition… thats to little light for HFR
@josvanderdonk915
@josvanderdonk915 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Nicholas, thanks for this great informative video. I also own an EVA1 and also like it. I am appreciating your effort in the community, keep it up! I love the detail in the footage you show in your video. And I have a question about it. On 22:49 you show the difference in H264 LONG GOP and PRORES HQ in a splitscreen. The PRORES HQ is far more detailed. How did you get this result? Did you shoot PRORES HQ internally or on the external recorder (shogun)? Or did you do this with grading? What can I do to get this nice detailed footage? Thanks in advance!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the flowers Jos… the ProResHQ was obviously recorded on the external recorder (Shogun Inferno via HDMI) as EVA can't record ProRes internally?! I can't tell where you see more detail… to me, both look the same… that is true even before KZbin compression. Some minor mushiness comes from KZbin compression and is visible on both sides of the split screen. I didn't do anything special to the footage. In the grade, I added a bit of "unsharp mask", but only on scenes in the main film (so not in the comparison). Detail comes from the lens and resolution… sharpness is something that is perceived and must be added in the grade if wanted (I usually don't as cinematic image is soft). That is why GH5 "looks" sharper. Sharpness is applied before recording (even at -5). Good luck
@liebalex687
@liebalex687 5 жыл бұрын
this is so beautiful !!!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lieb.... yeah.... incredible creatures!
@美梦成真影视
@美梦成真影视 4 жыл бұрын
Hi,I like you working. I from China.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man... glad you do
@vaughnvance
@vaughnvance 6 жыл бұрын
How did the autofocus work for you? It's an important feature for me, but am not finding any reviews online.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
Consider it non existent. Even the simple push focus does not work reliable for me. If you have to have auto focus Canon has the best. Cine cams usually don't have auto focus at all. I live in the proud tradition of manual focussing and in so many situations AF is just not what would have given you that organic feel.
@vaughnvance
@vaughnvance 6 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thank you so much.
@exinexi
@exinexi 6 жыл бұрын
amazing skintones!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
On Orangutangs?! :-)
@marcoarmas0909
@marcoarmas0909 7 жыл бұрын
nice video, what monitors are you using?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks... you mean in the grading suite? Two 32 Samsung 4k monitors (U32D970Q outdated) and a Samsung premium UHD TV... (UN49MU8000)
@andregant9980
@andregant9980 7 жыл бұрын
@Media Division, @ 6:04 in the video, I love how the set up you are filming while you are sitting at the desk with your monitors beautifully on display. Please tell me how you filmed this (the camera used to film this set up, lighting position and distance, screen types etc).
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Andre... nothing really special here.... filmed with GH5/Sigma 18-25/Speedbooster at around f3 from about 1.5 meters away. Controlling the cam via tether app on a laptop right outside the frame. There is one right on the left of the cam (Apurture Light Storm) with a softbox on it... it is slightly above my head and angled down a bit... an almost random setup chosen for convenience over aesthetics. The screens a my normal working displays... two Samsung 32inch ISP 4k displays and a curved Samsung Premium UHD TV in the back. TV is driven by a decklink 4k card to monitor Resolve (up to 4k HDR). Hope that helps.
@andregant9980
@andregant9980 7 жыл бұрын
Whether your set up was executed at random or by second nature skill, it still looks fantastic!!!! Thanks for sharing!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Andre
@elbanzo8110
@elbanzo8110 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! How about the color science? How far can you push colors and contrast when recording internal 422? What about skin tones? Can you make a review on that? I'm really interested on how the Eva1 compares to the Fs7, C200 or Blackmagic cameras. Thanks
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Pleasure, far (relative question, so a relative answer)… for all that really matters ProRes and the internal codec have the same quality. Direct comparison starting 22:20. To me EVAs image looks better then FS7 and c200
@elbanzo8110
@elbanzo8110 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, Eva1 image looks very good and clean to me, too. I just came across this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGrZcp6Iqdmtos0 skin tones look also really nice here. Would also be interesting to see graded footage in a tungsten lit scene
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
just join the facebook group (link in the description) … you'll find everything there.
@Lordalbertreels
@Lordalbertreels 3 жыл бұрын
What a beauty
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't they gorgeous?
@marcopervo
@marcopervo 6 жыл бұрын
I love the sharpness on the GH5, since I'm usually shooting in 30P or 60P. I can see how it would be a drag for narrative work, and I use my BMPCC for those occasions.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
What has sharpness to do with frame rate? GH5 does not let you film without sharpening (even at -5). Typical for a prosumer camera. I rather choose myself, how much sharpening I apply. How is the Gh5 a drag? it is so small and light? BMPCC is smaller but come on... it is a completely different kind of camera.
@bridgevideo
@bridgevideo 6 жыл бұрын
Great Footage,thanks a lot!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bridge!!!
@BernardBertrand
@BernardBertrand 7 жыл бұрын
Really informative my friend ! Thanks :)
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Always my pleasure evil twin ;-)
@jackchapman923
@jackchapman923 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Very interested to see how those high frame rates hold up
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
sure... ProRes Raw changes everything for the high frame rates... now they are gorgeous kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYWtqq2PiN2leKs
@jackchapman923
@jackchapman923 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Okay, new EVA-1 owner. Purchased for a documentary. Will post some questions on the fbook group. Thanks
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
read you there :-) Feel free to PM me
@tbip2001
@tbip2001 7 жыл бұрын
Is there any benefit to having a relatively high naive iso? Am i right in saying you you can't go before that native iso?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
a "native" ISO provides you with the ideal setting for any given sensor. Gaining a signal will cause the colors to shift and the Dynamic range to get less. The 2500 ISO read the signal at full DR and with same color fidelity as the 800… but is not as clean. I don't knoe what "before" means, but if you are talking about "lower"… yes of course. You can shoot 400 ISO or 1000 ISO coming from both native ISOs. Of course: If you want to shoot at 1200 ISO it is better to go to 2500native and go down from there. If you want to shoot below 800, use the native 800 and go down from there… hope that helps.
@whichlens435
@whichlens435 7 жыл бұрын
2K 240fps Raw to ProRes (on Shogun Inferno)... as read from Joscha Mola out of Newshootter But how much pixels are skipped there ? 3 of 4 ?... The crop @240fps is 1.4... so it reduces frame from S35 to M4/3. So will the better codec be useful ? Wait & see.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
That info has been stated to be false by Panasonic reps... but as RAW is under development, things are open. Nobody knows the methods of achieving 240, but it probably uses pixel binning or line skipping... and yes... M4/3 crop size. The "better" codecs are All-I. Good for some things... neglectable for others, as you can see here in my ProRes vs. long GOP
@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo Ай бұрын
Is this camera better than panasonic gh7?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision Ай бұрын
@@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo “better” is a wide field… it depends. Image wise… it is not better.
@Marty426
@Marty426 6 жыл бұрын
Has the price dropped already? It's on for £6,594 on CVP. A Few weeks ago it was slightly more expensive than the C200.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
It's down by 5% in Germany, too… could be just adjusted exchange rate of Japanese currency. 5% wouldn't boost sales so marketing is very unlikely
@Marty426
@Marty426 6 жыл бұрын
Media Division Unless it's part of a strategic thing with the rumoured GH5s? Anyways I should have led with a thanks for a great review. I'm a GH4 user and seriously considering the EVA.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Marty
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
If you are not in the EVA1 FB group already, please join us
@simonrabeder1599
@simonrabeder1599 7 жыл бұрын
As far as I have pieced it together, the apparent sharpness difference is due to the gh5 not having an olpf whereas the eva1 does have one. This leads to a loss in sharpness but also a reduction of aliasing and other artifacts onthe sensor. It is a less overly sharp look geared towards a cine look (all the cine cams have an olpf: alexa, f55/65, red stuff, a7s, varicam). In fact, I find the eva1 to have the least amount of artifacts so far (no colored pixel halation so far), except for maybe the alexa (which is a little less sharp).
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Sure… more resolution in general makes a softer perceived image as well… I know it is counterintuitive
@Shaedirector
@Shaedirector 7 жыл бұрын
I would like you to shoot the same shot with gh5 in vlog and eva 1 in vlog and grade them the same. That would be interesting, I'm thinking there would not be much difference.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
there is one towards the end (20:00)… and no. I do love my GH5… I shot this review with a GH5 and that should tell a lot. Depending on the subject and the grade, every cam can look like the other. that is true for a GH2 and a Arri65 just as well. You can already see how differently EVA and the GH5 handle highlights from me filming myself in in the house and Eva giving a wide shot. Dynamic range us just so much better. Same for lower light. Gh5 would have struggled given the f.6 Tele. Again, that will depend on the contend. The higher end you go, the more difference price/IQ is diminishing. You could say the exact same thing comparing an EVA and a RED Weapon.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
You might find this interesting… c200 vs EVA vs GH5 vs Varicam LT. Considering the price difference, the GH5 hold up great, and some may even prefer the punchy GH5 look... the real quality lies in her skin. EVA/Varicam render her skin nicely and pleasant with a soft highlights rolloff. GH5 is a bit harsher and varies in the skin depending on the exposure. vimeo.com/243092844
@macdidilin
@macdidilin 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Thanks! But wow... the 120fps is suffering badly. It looks worse than FS5 that I currently own now. That's very strange considering it is 10bit 422 than Sony 8bit.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
thanks... way to little light for the slow lens I used. Hair is particulary difficult for high compression. So, worst subject ;-) Some test show EVAs slow motion to be on par with the FS5. Image is much nicer then FS5s (taste!)
@bmbfilmshd
@bmbfilmshd 7 жыл бұрын
love it
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@timdehring1507
@timdehring1507 6 жыл бұрын
Can it record prores and mov internally?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
No internal ProRes…You can record 4k 60 10bit ProResHQ via Atomos recorder. ProResHQ does not give IQ advantage over the internal h264. If you are into ProRes for easy editability, the 400mbps All-I will do the same job. The container is mp4 and container doesn't matter what so ever, whats inside is the same.
@VividVisual
@VividVisual 7 жыл бұрын
Does it have autofocus?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
It has a barely working "push to focus"… nothing I would want to call autofocus
@VividVisual
@VividVisual 7 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I see. That's very unfortunate. This was something I was really looking forward to. It seems as to be exactly like every other camera that is comparison with price range difference. Pay a couple extra thousand for a different camera with autofocus, usually Canon in this case C300 M2, or deal with the manual focus. For moving or follow focus shots, autofocus is so essential or else you you may miss a shot. Any opinions between this camera and the Canon I mentioned just to see another perspective?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Sure… AF is not reliable… never… not on canon or else as the camera can't know what you would like to have in focus. AF is nice for a very specific niche of filming … if that is your niche and you got the money, go for the Canon c200/c300. If you need fast turnaround, c200 is not so good because of codecs, if you want 60fps 4K the c300 will not do. In the end it comes down to the mage… do you like it or not. I like EVAs image, and she hits the right marks between price, mobility, usability, and IQ… for me.
@VividVisual
@VividVisual 7 жыл бұрын
Media Division thanks for this. Helps make my decision.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
sure vivid
@filmselparaiso6263
@filmselparaiso6263 7 жыл бұрын
Hows the autofocus?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
don't count on it, but I'm a manual guy, so I don't care
@filmselparaiso6263
@filmselparaiso6263 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reply love your vids
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Always ;-) Thanks man
@bjornweber8809
@bjornweber8809 7 жыл бұрын
How did you set the shutter for 120 fps?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
180° always always
@bjornweber8809
@bjornweber8809 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe thats the reason for the soft image?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Soft image? What are you talking about? Even 360° shutter is "sharp" from a tripod as long as the object is not moving. First: open any BluRay or 4K movie from the last 5 years… and then tell me the image is "sharper" then this (hint: it's not). If you want an eyebleeding "sharp" image turn up sharpness in post. What many people call sharpness is just sharpening applied in post. The detail produced by Eva is amazing.
@bjornweber8809
@bjornweber8809 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry that's a misunderstanding. I love the image of the eva, but you mentioned a soft image at 12:30 cause of a lack of light.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh… got it. The higher frame rates are in deed soft (higher then 60 fps). They are "only" 2K and above 120fps they use sensor crop. Un top of that they abviously use pixel binning or line skipping. 50mbps are to little for details like the hair. This would have looked much better with a higher data rate, different motive (less details) and more light (high fps needs a lot of light). Firmware update will introduce a 200mbit All-I for some improvement. Maybe there will be external options in the future. Until then, the high fps is only so good.
@matteo_oz3557
@matteo_oz3557 6 жыл бұрын
i think that the combo of default lcd for menu and the smallhd 502 with the viewfinder like this i.ytimg.com/vi/3xvw1UIIUpk/hqdefault.jpg will be a killer mode to use that type of camera, do you agree?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
I replaced my LCD with a smallhd501… so... absolutely. HDMI is all good for monitoring. I rarely use my sidefinder as I'm not a EVF guy. I use a Shoung for bright environments and for RAW recording
@matteo_oz3557
@matteo_oz3557 6 жыл бұрын
Media Division so does shogun work well in light condition?
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
1500 nits.... quite well. It comes with a hood, too. A fold makes sure you can still use the touch features. Just be aware that it is heavy and I wouldn't advise to use it handheld. I got a vest where I can mount Shogun and V-lock battery on.... this way you stay light and mobile and still get high bright display + RAW recording
@matteo_oz3557
@matteo_oz3557 6 жыл бұрын
Can i use the shogun only in monitor mode and not for raw recording? If i want a file much simple to edit, and when i need a rw file i use it to record raw
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 6 жыл бұрын
Of course... while you are not in RAW out mode, you can use it just as a monitor with LUT support and record in all flavours of internal codecs to SD cards. You can also record on Shogun in ProRes (HQ) for super simple and quick editing like I did for this.
@clifftotten7609
@clifftotten7609 7 жыл бұрын
You mentioned about how "cinema" cameras are rarely sharp. It's not the look they go far. It's true as most cinema cameras use a simple 1:1 RGGB readout. But think about it...a 1:1 RGGB readout has a green channel that is HALF 4k resolution. (really think about that folks!) Even worse,..the blue and red are only one QUARTER 4k resolution. How can the industry call any camera "4k" when it's best channel is nowhere near 4k resolution. It's 1/2 raster supplemented with two 1/4 raster channels. That's crap! lol The EVA-1's green channel is approaching full raster 4k for green and 1/2 raster for red and blue. Technically speaking, the EVA-1 is the closest thing we have today to a REAL "4k cinema" camera outside of RED. (RED and Arri 65 are very sharp cinema cameras so I guess they break that idea too)
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
You are aware that the human eye has way less cone cells for color reception then rod cells? You are aware that when using 4:2:2 a full color matrix would be slashed in halve and further down for 4:2:0? Al that makes sense because the eye is what it is. In a final result, you couldn't tell a full color matrix from 4:2:2… or 4K from 3K for that matter. I found this very very enlightening. The DoP from "The last Jedi" proofs in this, that we are running in the wrong direction for marketing reasons. yedlin.net/ResDemo/
@clifftotten7609
@clifftotten7609 7 жыл бұрын
Certainly,. Mr.Bryce Bayer worked for Kodak and figured the RGGB concept of allocating double the green channel pixels over the red and blue based on the way the human eye perceives color. But,...look at Sony's 6k sampling and how much incredible detail the A6500 produces. It's jaw dropping. And,...yeah that green channel is full 6k with two half resolution red and green channels. My eyes can certainly see it on my 4k monitors and yeah,...Canon C200 look nice but soft to me. Look an Max Yuryev's shootout here. He really NAILED the 1:1 vs. oversampling argument right between the eyes. I think EVA1 is doing the right thing by using a 5.7k oversample. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqOxpXh7gq6aqLs
@clifftotten7609
@clifftotten7609 7 жыл бұрын
Oh,...haha,..here is my own 1:1 4k shootout vs 6k over samping. Can you spot the 6k collected sensor? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqLZf2B7i5ifb9U
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Watch the two Pert Demo I sent you… maybe (and maybe not) you will think differently after that.
@clifftotten7609
@clifftotten7609 7 жыл бұрын
Actually another person showed me this link last month. It's spectacular. I really liked it and it was eye opening for sure. I even saved a copy to my HD but check my 6k shootout video too. It at least partially contradicts his findings. I cant explain it. I dont believe this is an in-camera sharpening issue. I believe it's actual "detail". Its a VERY good video though. This guy is all over it,...no doubt. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqLZf2B7i5ifb9U
@JoschaSeehausen
@JoschaSeehausen 7 жыл бұрын
So wie es aussieht kann man bald 240fps extern aufzeichnen: www.newsshooter.com/2017/06/03/52386/
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Leider eine sehr alte falsche Info… Aussage von. Mitch Gross Panasonic. Die Facebook-Gruppe ist sehr gut!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Aber danke für den Input
@JoschaSeehausen
@JoschaSeehausen 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, das ist sehr schade! Ich bin auch sehr enttäuscht von der Weichheit der Slomos. Ich habe gestern Nacht ein wenig mit der EVA1 gedreht und schneide das Material gerade. Schau mal vorbei, ich stelle das Video gleich online. LG!
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 7 жыл бұрын
Zeig her... und poste in der Facebook Gruppe... vorsicht Piranhas ;-)
@popptrp
@popptrp 5 жыл бұрын
I love your work but at same time I also hate the color you put and pull to this vdo.
@MediaDivision
@MediaDivision 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks... well, you can't argue taste. There is enough color in cinema that I don't like... and I am still developing every day. Filming is a progress and I think I got much better since I made this. Many wrote me that they love the color of this
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