Panasonic GH4 CineLike-D Settings (part I)

[@MartinBlasick]

Still on GH4 too. Have two of em

[@STGFilmmakers]

thats must be nice!

[@themediaman100]

Me too. Got to have two matching cameras for video.

[@machiavelli4428]

Same here

[@jaredfilms]

I bought my gh4 in 2019 (used) and i’m still shooting on it that’s why i’m here… and since it didn’t have v-log I was shooting with cinelike-d PP since day one and tried a bunch of settings over the years. I also have everything at -5 but when it comes to Highlight/Shadow curves I have it off and iDynamic - i have that on high Resolution on standard and luminance level 16-235, Master pedestal level as well off otherwise it would just screw everything. That’s what I kinda figured out to get the most out of my camera in terms of DR and Post-workflow. But i’m still not really sure about it, especially Highlight/Shadow curve, if it helps changing it or screws…

[@STGFilmmakers]

Ya definitely trail and error haha. Everyone has preferences. But higher shadows and lower highlights are definitely a cool thing to have in post.

[@BeTheBrahman]

@@STGFilmmakers why is it a cool thing to have in post?

[@STGFilmmakers]

@@BeTheBrahman a flatter original file to work with, with slightly more range in exposure. Then I normally add in the amount of contrast I want in the editing suite. More options essentially.

[@faustoprieto9497]

Thanks for sharing this informations mate.

[@Dionne_Sheree]

I decided to get into this PP a while ago and still testing settings. Thank you for this informative vid! Your work is dope! Happy Holiday!

[@STGFilmmakers]

Same to You!

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

Still have my GH4. Sometimes for video you don't want a camera with IBIS because of the camera is shaking and even if IBIS is turned off it can still move.

[@travisraab]

man your colors are amazing. i want to learn to do this. I have a gh3, i only wish there was a good ultra wide lens for it

[@JoeRussellProductions]

Loved the video... did you miss the part where you save all of the settings to C1? How do I do that after making all of the adjustments?

[@xeximaxi]

where is part 2 of this amazing video

[@UrbanCraftTv]

Awesome!

[@zaedigital]

I noticed you put (rec709 conversion applied) I was under the impression it was rec709 already? If its not rec709 what would the conversion be for color space and gamma?

[@STGFilmmakers]

So the input color space would be V-Gamut and the Gamma would be Panasonic Vlog but... Since it's not an actual Log curve technically we can just make the curve corrections ourselves. Panasonic's factory VLOG LUT can still work. It's tricky I understand what your trying to say though. It's just that the LOG in the GH4 isn't technically a full log curve so when applying a color space transform it's going to look very aggressive. I have applied a transform in the way described above and just turn the gain down on the node to adjust the intensity and that seems to work as well.

[@travisraab]

i learned a lot!

[@STGFilmmakers]

Hey man cheers thanks for stoppin in and have a great 2022!

[@kqharvey]

Very nice video. Where's part II?

[@STGFilmmakers]

got busy working haha.

[@xeximaxi]

thank you for this video. but i have question about saturation level and denoise. at video of 96 frames you set there sat at -3 and denoise at -3. why saturation and denoise is set here at -5 and -5 at 24 frames ? you changed mind or there is reason of that.

[@STGFilmmakers]

No problem. I find that 24fps footage coming out of the GH4 look better with a lower level of in camera Noise Reduction (-5) At Higher framerates this sensor produces noticeably more noise. So the in camera NR is bumped up slightly (to -3)

[@cstewart13]

Great video! Just had a quick question, is your rec 709 conversion custom or did you get it from somewhere else? Looks solid, thumps up.

[@STGFilmmakers]

slightly custom. It only dips shadows down slightly deeper to help with noise. thanks fam!

[@cstewart13]

@@STGFilmmakers Awesome I'll have to play around with that! Thanks for the reply!

[@STGFilmmakers]

@@cstewart13 MosDef CineD is still pretty useful for some stuff definitely!

[@wilfrednkhwazi4764]

Thanks for the video. I have a GH4 and I've had a terrible experience with lenses though. Please recommend some good lenses for this camera

[@STGFilmmakers]

I feel ya, the Lumix lenses kinda suck. However, the 25mm Panasonic f1.7 is actually a really great looking lens on the cheap. If you got some extra cash for a lens ($400+ used), the Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 is one of the best lenses for Micro Four Thirds.

[@wilfrednkhwazi4764]

@@STGFilmmakers Thanks. I'll check them out. After i purchase it, I'll be back to watch this video for practice lol

[@kairophilos]

What kind of lenses are you looking for? I use the native 12-35mm, f2.8(v1), 35-135 mm for almost all my shots. They're great with in-built stabilisation. Otherwise, I have the Helios M44-2, Canon FL 35, f3.5 for primes and the Fujian 35mm for 'special effects' shots. Alternatively, you could opt for a metabones speedbooster with a canon EF mount and that'll open the door for Canon lenses. : )

[@nitai6088]

Where can I get a Cine-D to rec 709 conversion lut? Do you know? Anyone?

[@STGFilmmakers]

Cine-D is a rec709 space already. It's not a log so you can just adjust to add contrast and saturation manually to your liking. Now there are Cine-D LUTs floating around you can search for, but they are simply just someone's idea on how to make curve and color adjustments to a Cine-D file. You can develop your own or, just add in a light exposure curve/corrections and add saturation to your hearts content, which is extremely easy and satisfying.

[@nitai6088]

@@STGFilmmakers Ok great! Thank you for your answer :) I couldn't really find any clear information about this but now I understand. Sounds great!

[@ashton1991]

What lens do you have on the GH4 in this video?

[@AmebaFilms]

Thank you 👏

Where is part ii?

[@xeximaxi]

at this channel is a lot about gh4 but there are none music videos and stuff like that as examples so maybe this is not really that good :D

[@sebastianjcano3052]

Dude let me ask you something. I just sold my bmpcc4k and I will buy a gh4 but I'm not quite sure if it is worth buying it used, because as it is somehow old, I can't be sure of how much use it has had. Any recomentation? Thanks!!!!

[@STGFilmmakers]

ya its a gamble mosdef. Since theres no "shuttercount" for video usage. All Id say is message the seller and youd probably get a sense of what type of person the individual is. Good ol' fashion gut instincts lol.

[@jaredfilms]

may I ask why you want to do the switch to a older (and worse in my opinion) camera

[@STGFilmmakers]

@@jaredfilms cant beat multiple camera angles. I personally use the GH4 as BTS and or Bcam.

[@riccardogaspari3265]

hey, what about part II?

[@STGFilmmakers]

hey hey sry, xD Im actually working on a Neutral color profile atm.

[@riccardogaspari3265]

@@STGFilmmakers don't worry, I thought it was removed by yt or something! I did try your setup on 4k 24fps and loved it!

[@MartinBlasick]

I’ll be watching Pt 2 when it comes out

[@donsemo4804]

The way you're doing it by showing your monitor is not working.

[@STGFilmmakers]

ya sry it was too bright difficult to see my fault