Panel Discussion

[@charlesdodd9169]

Kicking myself for not haning out with these guys years ago. Thank you for posting❤❤❤

[@charlesdodd9169]

😊

[@josiahpulemau6214]

JMac hitting hard with biblical explanation and truth. Love that brotha in Christ. Awesome!!!

[@uncasunga1800]

Amen

[@timothyericksen6467]

Uncas Unga mm

[@abelphilosophy4835]

Thanks for posting. Chuck Swindol is a blessing . It is so sad to see James McDonald go from ministry after so many years. May the Lord restore him through this hard times

[@victoriabenn]

Thanks Pastor Swindoll-you shared your heart and I learned from you. Thank you for being so honest.

[@christimacc]

I love Chuck Swindoll because he is so REAL!

[@MauiXoXo]

Thank you Lord for all of their MINISTRIES for your GLORY Lord!

[@MauiXoXo]

Love Chuck Swindoll for his honesty, humor and humility!

[@MsMarilynP]

OH Greg, Greg -- this brings me to tears -- where have you gone since this discussion.

[@TooSweetWrestling]

Where has he gone?

[@jeremynethercutt206]

@@TooSweetWrestlingfalse teaching , contradiction, he is a great evangelist and speaker but not teacher at all

[@kevinphillips9459]

James MacDonald lectures on admitting that you were wrong (9:00). I think he's still working on that part.

[@edgarvera4621]

What an excellent discussion.

[@mrshenmac]

thank you so much Harvest TV for posting this

[@l.davesteele3227]

God bless all.

[@josiahpulemau6214]

Greg Laurie sweating at 11:45 like "John, you're getting out of hand putting me out like this on my own show" lol

[@claumeister1]

Never knew Swindoll much as a man - gained a lot of respect for his honesty and humility regarding his marriage and children -- you can tell how much he cares for his family by the fact that his mistakes toward them are still painful to him.

[@AngieAngie23]

I wish that you would invite Pastor Mike Wiggins from Calvary Chapel Port Saint Lucie, Florida . He is a man of God too . Loves Gods sheep and has helped us to have a relationship with Our Father ! He quotes and admires your panel of Pastors . 🙏🏼

[@gilbertrr]

I like their sense of humor. It shows you don't have to be so serious about being a Christian.

[@Painfulwhale360]

What do you mean?

[@dogfacesoldier]

AMEN!

[@philliphitt]

@romania1977 Chuck swindoll has kind of a wierd blend of both. He has a sermon called "Straight Talk On Predestination" where He claims to be calvanist, but then explains predestination more in terms of foreknowledge.

[@flamenard]

I love how John MacArthur talks about his mentors at 26:33

[@supersmart671]

Good advise for American pastors I think. Not for Indian pastors who have a completely different life. No time to study and tools to study. Correct me if I am mistaken.

[@adamjohnston85]

What a great video, I feel like I learned so much. I want to watch again and take notes.

[@dougwebster1813]

The way I understand predestination is that because God is outside of time and space He has already seen the beginning from the end, right! Because He has already seen from His vantage point who has already accepted or responded to the gospel with their free-will, He will then predestine everyone to be either a vessel fit for wrath or a vessel fit for glory! In other words, according to His foreknowledge, He predestines us! Rom.8:29; 1 Pet.1:20; Rev.13:8.

[@uncasunga1800]

wrong Man is so wicked no one would respond He didnt choose us becuase he owes us freewill He chose us intentionally out of the ones He chose for wrath as a Love gift for His only Legitimate Son, Jesus Christ, as His descendants. You have to grow up enough to admit your own complete depravity that you like everyone has nothing to offer God. Ou r actions do not appease Him.

[@dougwebster1813]

Rom.8:29 “For whom God foreknew He predestined...” In His sovereign judgement He chose to predestine according to His foreknowledge. Are you saying He can’t do it that way if He wants too?

[@uncasunga1800]

@@dougwebster1813 He had to. It's not a whim just because you don't understand. No one can choose Him He chose us as descendants for Jesus Christ Isaiah 53

[@dougwebster1813]

Gen.2:16-17 God have Adam and Eve a choice to eat or not to eat the fruit. Joshua 24:15 Choose this day whom you will serve. Deut.30:19-20 I set before you life and death. Choose life. 2Pet.3:9 The Lord is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance. Rev.3:20 If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in. Other than giving us Jesus, the greatest thing He gave us is free will. Without it, you are nothing more than a moist robot! According to His foreknowledge of your whole life laid out before Him before you were born, He predestined your life! Not only that but because of the thousands of different directions you could have choose to go throughout your life

[@jeremynethercutt206]

@@dougwebster1813PLEASE. Read an attributes of God book aw pink. Tozer both have great versions Look up Steve law sons attributes on foreknowledge Your view is very incorrect brother

[@salvobygracia]

John MacArthur is RIGHT ON at 11:00!

[@jcc9925]

What year was this?

[@philliphitt]

@romania1977 I don't know if James Mcdonald is calvanist or not

[@charlesdodd9169]

You should come by and watch it with me 😊 17:59

[@gilbertrr]

I think classicjukebox you might be referring to limited atonement, which is the view of Calvinists. Chuck is not a Calvinist nor have I ever heard him teach limited atonement. Universal atonement is biblical. Jesus died for ever body and everybody can achieve atonement. All these men have a great love for Jesus though I don't agree with everything they say.

[@josiahpulemau6214]

Sorry but Universal atonement is unbiblical

[@uncasunga1800]

Crazy limited atonement is biblical Mickey mouse fantasy worlds where hitler and Stalin go to heaven do not exist

[@uncasunga1800]

@@josiahpulemau6214 yes obv If you reject Christ you don't get your sins covered duhhhhhhhhhh

[@babyjdad]

awesome men of god on that stage

[@romania1977]

@philliphitt I didn't Know that. How about James MacDonald?

[@cezanini23]

This stools like horribly uncomfortable...... bad move

[@romania1977]

@12343590 From what I know, James MacDonald is a Calvinist. I am nut sure about Chuck Swindoll but even he is definitely not an arminian. Sorry for my grammar.

[@classicjukebox]

You forgot to mention , heresy...

[@jsplawn62]

If there could be a Mount Rushmore of evangelical leaders, those 5 people could definitely be on it!

[@Thanks4Grace]

People go to church to correct a lasting spiritual defect

[@uncasunga1800]

Most go to make their neighbors think they are a good person and get told what they want to hear

[@romania1977]

@12343590

[@classicjukebox]

Wake up! Chuck Swindoll teaches universal atonement! Heresy.

[@bobdees6428]

Universal atonement ? , I have listened to Chuck for years and I don’t think I have ever heard that before. Can you send me a link or a sermon you are referring too ? I have heard people make comments like this many times that have no real substance to them. I have referred many people both believers and unbelievers to Chuck’s ministry over the years.

[@Painfulwhale360]

Have you matured since this comment?

[@claumeister1]

Give these poor guys some decent chairs to sit on -- perching on a stool is really uncomfortable for older men, and some of them are pretty large to boot. I don't care much for JMac and James Mac, but any older man deserves some accommodation as a matter of courtesy.

[@georgejung722]

You don’t care much about jmac or James Mac? That’s very Christian of you

[@claumeister1]

@@georgejung722 I mean "I don't care much" in the sense of the expression, "I don't care much for broccoli." That doesn't mean I have ill will toward it or those who eat it, or can't respect it as a healthy food. Regarding these 2 men, JMac's Calvinist theology and scientifically dubious ideas about the age of the earth, climate change, and other science matters with a ton of data backing them up (I'm not talking about darwinian evolution, btw) I believe are either not biblically sound or they project a sense of X'ty as willfully ignorant of scientific matters. As for James Mac, his preaching always struck me as graceless and his character as bullying and immature, which recent events have borne out. Of course I care about both men as humans made in God's image. And in JMac's case, I care that we show courtesy to a man in his 70s, and accommodate his physical age, even though I disagree with him as stated.

[@donsimonds5186]

@@claumeister1 that's funny I feel everything you said about them towards you, but that's just my opinion and you're entitled to yours, touche, that doesn't make either of us right, we're just lonely people of the dirt compared to God and His truth in his glory we see through a mirror dimly someday we'll know but not till we get there.

[@josiahpulemau6214]

Your comment alone shows you aren't a Christian. That should be of great concern to you.