PANEL: The Realities of Energy Transition | Stephen Wilson, Zoe Hilton, Blair Thomas, Aidan Morrison

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@corrinefarrell6726 2 ай бұрын

Spot on Stephen. This is not about us it’s about future generations, our children and grandchildren. We need to stop thinking short term it will only get more expensive, time to get moving on a reliable energy source and that’s NOT wind and solar.

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

A 1gW Nuclear power plants costs $6billion. And Australia has 25gW of fossil fueled electricity generation plants. 25 x $6billion is horrendously expensive. The grid electricity demand varies 80% but nuclear can not throttle down even 15%. Grid electricity is only 10% of Australia’s 100% fossil fueled energy. CO2 emissions energy. Australia and many warm latitudes were 80% of the world's population live has to much sunshine. All the other non fossil energy and non nuclear do not need any nuclear electricity. It is just utter waste. Nuclear might be good were there is no sunshine and no plants and no people all year long. And 247 demand for energy. Submarines, perfect. Space craft, perfect.

@grannyannie2948 2 күн бұрын

And our children and grandchildren will be a tiny generation inheriting no infrastructure and a huge generation of old people.b

@grannyannie2948 2 күн бұрын

@@stephenbrickwood1602 You have no idea of the corruption once government gets its wallet out. I've seen hydro plants closed because they can be replaced by taxpayers solar. 😂

@honestpat7789 2 ай бұрын

They call it Robin Hood in reverse. I call it money laundering ...

@johngeier8692 2 ай бұрын

It is economically destructive delusional insanity.

@PhoTo-so3tw 21 күн бұрын

Why, what do you mean

@jamesmaddox7507 2 ай бұрын

I disagree. They are anti-shadow policy. Give us the facts, then let us have an honest debate! They never said, 'no solar, no wind'. They said we need diversity and an honest debate.

@darkedge4011 2 ай бұрын

@@jamesmaddox7507 who is stopping them exactly?

@Robert-fx3ng 2 ай бұрын

@@darkedge4011government subsidies or taxes shape what companies create more of. The media also demonizes certain types of energy. If your child was dying would you want doctors or politicians/media/lobbyists deciding the best answer?

@buildmotosykletist1987 2 ай бұрын

@@darkedge4011 : No one has claimed anyone is being stopped.

@davidhilder6826 2 ай бұрын

A very informed discussion, i bet Bowen did not watch this.

@ikt123 2 ай бұрын

I hope he didn't, it's a complete waste of time. You can get this sort of nonsense from any facebook discussion involving a group of 80 year olds who don't know anything but what they read on murdoch 'news' sites

@buildmotosykletist1987 2 ай бұрын

@@ikt123 So you didn't watch it or you had it on mute. Either way you did not learn.

@peternagel-er7ly 20 сағат бұрын

@@ikt123When the power goes off we are dead. The food supply stops. Water stops, sewage stops. Transport stops. We starve. You won’t make it.

@petermarsh4993 2 ай бұрын

Or current Federal Government has shut down confidence in our mining industry and now we have the absurd decision of BHP to develop a huge iron ore mine in Canada. Even though they could only mine for three months of the year, it was less risky and more profitable than opening a new mine in Australia. To paraphrase Zoe, repeating failed steps over and over expecting to get a different result is a sure sign of insanity. That’s the Labor, Green’s & Teal’s philosophy.

@joshdrougas7419 2 ай бұрын

I don’t know Norway manages to profit from taxes and royalties on its resources. If foreign companies can buy our LNG and then sell the excess on to other markets maybe we aren’t making the most of our resources. If we had ownership of our resources and publicly owned companies that could sell our resources directly too other markets and if our government worked to bring down operating costs inflated in areas such as realestate and power costs I think nuclear would definitely be the answer if we don’t get over charged for the service

@bakedbillybacon 2 ай бұрын

A lot of problems with wind and solar, nuclear is the way. Nothing is paying off for solar and wind. Everything promissed X watts and delivers 15% of the promise.

@chuckbirdnz 22 күн бұрын

Very impressed with the panel. Just as no one can predict the temperature in 2050, no one can predict the technology then be it nuclear or battery storage.

@hamshank76 2 ай бұрын

The Elephant in the room appears to be ignored by all the panel. They all agree on the idea that Australia needs to develop more of its gas resources. What is not discussed is the claim that the Australian domestic gas shortage is, in a large part, due to the export of vast quantities of gas at sale costs far less than Australian consumers can source. On the matter of importation, addressing the claims that Australia is buying back its own exported gas should be an important topic to discus and validate or refute with evidence. Do the participants represent an unbiased view? I think not.

@joshdrougas7419 2 ай бұрын

It’s hilarious to believe that nuclear would be cheaper because we have vast deposits within our borders the same as gas and coal so why is power still expensive in Australia our existing power plants are (coal) are old so we shouldn’t still be paying for the construction of these plants. So how would nuclear be any different? In theory nuclear should be cheaper than any other option if we didn’t waste our opportunity to profit from our resources tax and royalties paid on all our resources then reinvest that into infrastructure to build nuclear and a grid that could sell excess power to other nearby markets

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

Nuclear electricity stability is limited to a maximum of 15%. The grid demand varies by 80% every day. Rooftop PV and EV big battery, the power bank, can stabilise the grid and remove nuclear demand. The grid connects millions and millions and millions and millions of customers and takes it's cashflow from its customers. The grid and its millions and millions of customers do not need the nuclear or distant renewables

@joshdrougas7419 Ай бұрын

@@stephenbrickwood1602 you’re saying we should just keep doing what we’re doing? That’s probably the safest option, hey? Least amount of risk.

@Bellakelpie Ай бұрын

@@stephenbrickwood1602 How about posting the links to the facts that backup your statement?

@georgetsagaris4470 2 ай бұрын

How about the government taxing our resources properly, we are giving it away with little taxes to show for it.

@ikt123 2 ай бұрын

Glad to see another Labor voter here! We did in QLD but then people voted for the LNP and now they'll probably take those taxes away and once again mining companies will rip us all off. Queenslanders who voted for the LNP SHAME!

@bushmagpie3312 2 ай бұрын

You seem to want all the rewards with no risk. Companies spend millions in government approvals, years of no production, years of construction. Let’s see Joe Public put in to a business then when it makes a profit you make money. Your idea isnt practical as you want the reward with not outlay, no risk.

@georgetsagaris4470 2 ай бұрын

@@bushmagpie3312 And they still make a fortune.

@georgetsagaris4470 2 ай бұрын

I'm not a labour voter for your information I just believe in fair distribution of sovereign wealth. A country like Norway taxes its petroleum exports properly and has a massive wealth fund for the citizens, it seems that doesn't stop business over there, only we give things a way cheaply. with the amount of resources Australia has we should be a wealthier nation, the only wealth we have is an over inflated property market.

@bushmagpie3312 2 ай бұрын

@@georgetsagaris4470⁠I’m not a Labor either or liberal, Can you check what the costs are to go through government regulations, the government royalties, indigenous royalities, company tax, all business cost compared to Australia? If the government placed all the resource royalities (gov & external) into same fund you would have same outcome. Our government and local communities spend it so it does go to public just not in wealth fund. Whats paying for metrolink? I just happen to be in mining for 40yrs and see behind the seems of what is payed out and way gov spend it.

@douglachman7330 2 ай бұрын

This is quality informative content. It offers viewers both perspective and context that everyone needs to understand. As in Australia we dont have a generally high standard of media. If the politics could be sorted to have a reasonable public awareness that supports bipartisanship and sensjble believable policy development.

@johnbrookman6610 9 күн бұрын

Our demands on energy is summer when we sun shines not like cold climate countries where there is no sun

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

Nuclear electricity needs extreme stability of demand. Less than 15%. Nuclear needs peaker plants as grid demand fluctuates 80% daily. From 100% down to 20% daily.

@BR26-o6o 2 ай бұрын

Gosh such an important topic and so hard to understand from a lay person's point of view. What was said seemed to make sense and then the comments confuse . 🤷‍♀️

@honestpat7789 2 ай бұрын

In laymen's terms, our politicians are money laundering!

@grannyannie2948 2 күн бұрын

Too many comments are ideological, not factual

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

The stupidity is that Australian energy has been 100% fossil fuel. Grid electricity is 10%. And 20% of grid electricity, base load, is f...all of a...all of Australia’s total energy useage. 10% x 20% = 2% of AUSTRALIA'S ENERGY is f...all, to quote a Construction Engineer. Transmission and generation construction decades expertise. Price, tender, build on time and on budget. Snowy 2.0 pumped hydro is a brilliant example. $ 2billion wet dream to $15billion reality of disaster. 10 year droughts before flooding rains. If the other 98% of energy is not nuclear electricity then we do not need the 2% that is the proposed Nuclear generation. Empty suites is a perfect analogy.

@marli-ngataijohnson4025 2 ай бұрын

And making the poor poorer. The "value" of a house has not changed, in that everyone still needs a house! It's just that you need ten times more dollars to get one. That's more about buying power then a change in value!

@grannyannie2948 2 күн бұрын

Australia has not had replacement birth rates since 1976. We were famous for affordable housing in the 1970s. Our high cost of housing is entirely due to immigration. Hmm. Think about that. And now they don't want us to have electricity either.

@arthurfilippidis9170 10 күн бұрын

History at 35c a kW in Australia with renewables and increasing and 15cKw a Overseas with Nuclear mix with renewables😮 says it all.

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

Aidan Morrison is half right about gathering dispersed energy. (Aidan was completely right about French submarines. ) Right about putting dispersed energy into the grid. Then to grid disperse that energy to millions and millions and millions of customers. Millions and millions and millions of grid connected customers to get CASHFLOW to pay for the INCREASED costs of getting electricity to the customers living under huge hot and empty roof spaces. This is sickeningly stupid. Aidan Morrison 'go to' is nuclear electricity, which can only function with fixed maximum demand. Ramping is limited to down of 15% or completely off. Nuclear economics is 247 cashflow for 60years. Break even at 20years. Decommissioning and clean up costs is 10years of cashflow. The grid ramps 80%, 100% down to 20% and back up to 100%. Canada is using fossil fueled peaker plants and closing down reactors. A Canadian nuclear operators spoke about it recently. Latitudes are warming.

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

What is the penalty costs of CO2 emissions worldwide damage in the USA from below ground development by private owners ???

@lornacarlos 2 ай бұрын

The problem with Labor Party's renewables is, it is the ordinary Australians who are being slugged to pay for their unreasonable target. If one of the solutions is putting solar panels on homes - why in the world are the homeowners who did the right thing and placed solar panels on their roofs are going to be slugged with solar tax?

@ikt123 2 ай бұрын

Because it's not 2010 anymore, it's 2024 and we have more solar than we know what to do with (the price of electricity goes negative in the middle of the day nearly every day now) so we need to now give people an incentive to get storage. Keep up old man.

@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 2 ай бұрын

We are not being sluged at all. Electricity is cheaper here than many european, if not all European countries. Stop winging....

@joshdrougas7419 2 ай бұрын

@@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 Im not sure about that the industry’s that require huge amounts of power like alumina refinement and aluminium smelting, steel manufacturing and general manufacturing struggle to stay competitive with overseas competitors. If it didn’t cost so much to live in Australia maybe things like automotive manufacturing wouldn’t of left

@dawndouglas7904 2 ай бұрын

And one more storm and one more blackout.

@asub_1773 2 ай бұрын

Whatabout the re-investment cost of renewals - by 2050 everything must be replaced again … rooftop solar only have a 10 year life expectancy !?

@jakobusphsteyn3500 Ай бұрын

The scenario that brought the "renewable" energy to the forefront for the need of change because of an "existential" threat is the actual fly in the ointment. This should be so much better researched as being done at the moment. Computer models especially those with a very limited base to work from with not nearly enough data feeds from sources not even known about should not be taken as gospel as it is seemingly been done at the moment.

@jameskelly5973 Ай бұрын

Why are people acting surprised….these comments on the shortfalls have been touted for more than a decade

@ThaMassDebater 2 ай бұрын

If i have to pay increasing power prices, can you confirm to me how many degrees Celsius and how much it will stop the seas from rising for my increasing contributions? How do we know if our efforts have been successful? We have targets on emissions but what are the actual targets in temperature drop or sea level reduction? 🤔🤷‍♂️🤣🤦‍♂️

@lesnorton837 2 ай бұрын

Its all a hoax the aemo in Australia said it won't reduce power prices. At the moment, the carbon footprint of the uk & Australia is 1.2 percent. Man made carbon in the atmosphere is 3%of total carbon emissions in the atmosphere is 0.04 %. Which = 400ppm now man made carbon around the world is 3% of 400ppm, which = 12ppm now Australia & UK are 1.2 percent of 12ppm = 0.14 ppm. So peeing is the ocean will give you the same result like I said hoax.

@peterkramer288 2 ай бұрын

There will be Zero difference. The truth is earth needs more Cos2 not less.

@ikt123 2 ай бұрын

@@peterkramer288 more co2 eh? are you mentally retarded or is that just you?

@terryquarton2523 2 ай бұрын

Who set up the policy on our gas? Oh right johnny howard the lnp.

@grannyannie2948 2 күн бұрын

But who made electricity unaffordable?

@terryquarton2523 Күн бұрын

@grannyannie2948 the government has subisdied electricity for decades. ETSA brought out all the small generators back in the 60s. I know this because my father ran the Kalangadoo power station for 5 yrs

@grannyannie2948 8 сағат бұрын

@terryquarton2523 I know but in recent years it's become ridiculous. I know of a hydro plant which was replaced by a solar farm because there was more profits in the subsidies of solar.

@terryquarton2523 8 сағат бұрын

@grannyannie2948 power from coal fired power station has been going up because of being sold off to overseas corporations who have no skin in the game in Australia. And have been subisdesd for decades. I bought my own own stand alone solar system of 5kva or 26 kilometres watt or.

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

@paulwhelan8567 20 күн бұрын

All true. However, Snowy 2.0 will cost $12B and will actually consume energy for storage. How much will all the required storage cost, will people be buying these batteries for their home out of their own pocket?

@stephenbrickwood1602 20 күн бұрын

@paulwhelan8567 electric vehicles, EVs are in production, and the family transport budget usually pays for the vehicle. Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day and all night long. The EVs massive battery is massive parked FREE STORAGE daily and all night long. Rooftop PV is dirt cheap and makes dirt cheap electricity at the point of consumption. 3cents kWh electricity. Customer can save on grid electricity imported petroleum extremely expensive Australian gas no grid capacity construction costs hot roofs are shaded by PV panels And more, $10,000s savings. Tax-free savings. And minimum additional spending. Minimum government spending and Minimum government guaranteed disaster insurance, cashflow, PPP profit guarantee,.......

@stephenbrickwood1602 Күн бұрын

@paulwhelan8567 The v2g EVs massive battery is parked 23hrs every day and all night long. The nuclear promoters will tell you that Max utilization of your own assets is economically number one. Free electricity storage daily and all night long is dirt cheap as your vehicle is paid by your transport budget.

@joshdrougas7419 2 ай бұрын

I understand that renewables are costly and require much more resources to develop a renewable grid and power storage. I really worry that nuclear will be sold as a cheaper option which it should be and if we could actually create it cheaper it would be a huge benefit for Australian economy. But we have huge deposits of the other resources used to create power that we are currently using and our power prices seem to still be expensive this means manufacturing suffers as retail consumers we can’t invest our money into other infrastructure is nuclear going to be cheaper??

@DavidShort-lf4jn Ай бұрын

Yep SMR's are well known. Just ask the US navy about their Virginia class subs = 210MW. Seems a pretty simple way to go for remote cities and towns in Australia. Major 3-4GW plants at current coal power station locations. Pretty easy, just go with the South Korean desin used in UAE and get them to build them.

@paulwhelan8567 20 күн бұрын

US Navy reactors are small because they use highly enriched uranium (weapons grade). The cost to load the reactor is roughly $45M upfront and costs $9,000 per kW/hr.

@johnl5316 2 ай бұрын

No solat. No wind. THAT is the solution. Use fossil fuels & nuclear

@iantag 2 ай бұрын

Low Cost clean electricity is the objective!! . While Aidan M. addressed the issue/fear of poor capital allocation - the real impact of poor capital allocation will be higher electricity prices once the cost of building new transmission lines is fully costed ( and not assumed as a zero sunk cost by you know who). The consequences for Australian manufacturing and employment, by higher than necessary electricity costs, are profound IMHO. The recent embrace of renewable energy by Tomago Aluminum ( NSW largest electricity consumer) is an interesting case study. While threatening jobs and Taxes ( to get federal subsidies) they have also publicly opposed Nuclear ( because it will be too slow). Reminds me of a saying in the industry: "Never enough time and money to do it right the 1st time, but there is always money to do it right later". Even with delays - Nuclear is a needed ingredient - because 2030 targets (using renewables alone) are unlikely to be realized - so why focus on that - just get it right the 1st time. Lastly with high advertised renewable levels SA must be attracting significant new SME's, manufacturing and employment and setting new levels for tertiary pay levels with their low cost user electricity (yes ??). This last sentence is a challenge!! - to see if renewables are delivering measurable real change - because all I see is a decline in SME's and industry relocating overseas due to high energy cost.

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

Millions and millions of customer's do not need grid electricity. Rooftop PV and EV v2g battery power bank parked 23hrs every day are perfect for customers.

@paulwhelan8567 20 күн бұрын

So my landlord is going to pay for it on my roof? And the battery as well? WITHOUT putting up my rent?

@stephenbrickwood1602 20 күн бұрын

@paulwhelan8567 from what I have said below, the grid customers who own their roof and park their vehicle at home could have huge tax-free advantages. The GRID OWNERS will SHTTSNPANTS as their cashflow crashes, not just DUCK CURVE daily crash but flatlines day and night. When customers total cashflow reduces then remaining grid customers electricity costs will increase, all energy will increase to the fewer customers. @paulwhelan8567 electric vehicles, EVs are in production, and the family transport budget usually pays for the vehicle. Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day and all night long. The EVs massive battery is massive parked FREE STORAGE daily and all night long. Rooftop PV is dirt cheap and makes dirt cheap electricity at the point of consumption. 3cents kWh electricity. Customer can save on grid electricity imported petroleum extremely expensive Australian gas no grid capacity construction costs hot roofs are shaded by PV panels And more, $10,000s savings. Tax-free savings. And minimum additional spending. Minimum government spending and Minimum government guaranteed disaster insurance, cashflow, PPP profit guarantee,.......

@stephenbrickwood1602 20 күн бұрын

@paulwhelan8567 @paulwhelan8567 from what I have said below, the grid customers who own their roof and park their vehicle at home could have huge tax-free advantages. The GRID OWNERS will SHTTSNPANTS as their cashflow crashes, not just DUCK CURVE daily crash but flatlines day and night. When customers total cashflow reduces then remaining grid customers electricity costs will increase, all energy will increase to the fewer customers. More SHTTSNPANTS by energy providers. @paulwhelan8567 electric vehicles, EVs are in production, and the family transport budget usually pays for the vehicle. Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day and all night long. The EVs massive battery is massive parked FREE STORAGE daily and all night long. Rooftop PV is dirt cheap and makes dirt cheap electricity at the point of consumption. 3cents kWh electricity. Customer can save on grid electricity imported petroleum extremely expensive Australian gas no grid capacity construction costs hot roofs are shaded by PV panels And more, $10,000s savings. Tax-free savings. And minimum additional spending. Minimum government spending and Minimum government guaranteed disaster insurance, cashflow, PPP profit guarantee,.......

@stephenbrickwood1602 20 күн бұрын

@paulwhelan8567 Yes, your rent would go up, but your tax-free savings should go up more. Your landlord and you could benefit.

@paulwhelan8567 20 күн бұрын

@ I’ll vote for Dutton then.

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

Zoe point that early adopters take cashflow out of the grid is correct. The grid is a massive investment that needs ROI cashflow so the remaining customers, the late adopters, have to make up the total cashflow by paying higher $kWh. The poor and disadvantaged. The earlier adopters took the largest grid electricity and the grid grew. The investment increased. Now the poor are victims of the ealier adopters, who demanded a bigger grid now aboundon the grid investors and the remaining poor forced to carry higher electricity charges.

@kdkd693 2 ай бұрын

Her argument about the rich profiting off old solar installs is false A. They were tiny systems then and took a lot of investment $. So getting paid 60c/kWh on a 30yo 1kW system aint a big money spinner. B. They, as early adopters, invested a lot in relative terms so over its 30 year lifetime (if very lucky), they should get a payback ROI C. And as soon as you want to upgrade that tiny old $20k system, you lose that great FIT plan and get 2c instead of 60c. Reality, not a Robyn Hood analogy

@torrespearls381 2 ай бұрын

Did Chris Bowen get an invite?

@chitrungkim 2 ай бұрын

Status quo is fine. I m happy to pay more for energy. Doubly more. Sounds like some ppl here agree with me

@PaulAustralianborn 2 ай бұрын

we own our home but we don’t have solar while our neighbour had solar installed last year and our power bills are similar It’s apparently a 6.6kw system but I think they were scammed using a Victorian government solar grant

@chrisgriffiths2533 Ай бұрын

Huge IQ/Leadership Failure by Chris Uhlmann.

@PPYM7293 2 ай бұрын

In 8 yrs we would have matched Norway's sovereign fund exceeding 1.7 trillion

@johnbrookman6610 9 күн бұрын

They don't have sun in winter not like Australia when peak is in summer when we have plenty of sun even in winter

@anthonywilson8998 2 ай бұрын

The govmt. z seem to not be aware of the needs of the country in terms of electricity, compared to the nature of renewables with major stoppages due to being dependent on the weather,which is variable.. Then nuclear is a good solution but often ignored. Trees and plants will absorb the extra CO2 if enough are plante ( area the size of Australia. Then there is the massive increase needed in elec supplies to remove 80% of energy produced by fossil fuels. No one is ever anywhere near this in concept , planning and finance.

@robertthomas3777 2 ай бұрын

Thorium reactors????

@elisabetbarth5573 2 ай бұрын

Smr-reactors. Relatively short delivery time.

@kimlibera663 2 ай бұрын

Solar, wind, geothermal can be on the grid; they just can't sustain the entire world's need for electricity. Electricity is a basic human need. Fossil fuels must remain. Their dominance may change but they are more energy dense. We know that solar & wind are not continuous in all regions. Solar storage is heavily contingent on batteries which are in turn dependent on the elements used to make them. You don't simply walk down to the hardware store. In addition, ins susceptible regions, solar farms & wind farms can easily be taken out by an earthquake, hurricane, tornado, etc. We saw this in Florida. Big danger is with EV transport in areas susceptible to weather & geological hazards. If you are stuff in evacuation traffic, you may run out of juice at the same time when floodwaters surge, heat waves or cold waves are present. The public is totally unaware of the amount of electricity expended each day globally from the local household to industry. Why should the folks be subject to blackout when the celebrities fly around the world. So while emissions could drop, it won't change weather. Weather is not controlled by an oil rig.

@joshdrougas7419 2 ай бұрын

If people really want to do something for the environment it would be far more effective to not buy new things and just repair and maintain the things they have. The energy required to manufacture a new say car costs so much more in energy than just repairing that car you’ve had for a few years but people care so much about how they appear in society than actually making choices to make a difference environmentally

@kimlibera663 2 ай бұрын

@@joshdrougas7419 Actually that is not quite true. When there is a car accident & significant damage, even halfway damage, the insurance comp is going to total the car. Too intricate to repair. Likewise when you're Ac or frig breaks down it is better to get a new one. Today's appliances are not made to be resilient & do have a finite lifespan. I can point that out just in the last 3 years with my AC & furnace.

@joshdrougas7419 2 ай бұрын

@ yeah that’s correct I don’t think there is no need for new products but I think often peoples choices can be wants not needs. The production of glass is very energy expensive also that of steel and aluminium sometimes the labour costs outweigh the financial sensibility but that can mean we pay environmentally

@chrisburnett4742 2 ай бұрын

It’s always interesting how groups like the IPA are on the side of those in the “family building phase” when it suits their ideological goals- in this case energy ideology. But when it comes to the greatest issue for those in this expensive life phase - housing - they are totally against reforms to support them. The IPA won’t stand a bar of removing government funded negative gearing and CGT discounts for the rich to build their wealth portfolios. This would move houses from investors to first home buyers but we can’t have that. Clearly the IPA is in full support of the fossil fuel industry on energy policy and so it’s willing to use feigned support for young families as a lever to back its case.

@Robert-fx3ng 2 ай бұрын

Are you for good policies for families or pro a certain party? Which party presents a good solution shouldn’t matter.

@chrisburnett4742 2 ай бұрын

@@Robert-fx3ng Did you not read what I wrote? I said the IPA, like the party it serves, is dead against removing subsidies for investor housing. The biggest issue in Australia today is that we’re running a housing Ponzi scheme which has seen inflation of house prices at record levels while wages in real terms are flat over 15 years. Consequently we have some of the most expensive housing in the world, one of the highest levels of household debt in the world and our economy is going nowhere because we invest unproductive housing instead of businesses that might actually grow the economy. No issue is creating more family stress that the cost housing whether through a mortgage or rent. When young people in their peak expenditure years, have to be taxed at higher rates to support our longer living and large boomer retirees generation while they’re paying exorbitant rent and trying to save for a house deposit or trying to maintain their mortgage payments on their inflated house prices we sow the seeds for societal breakdown. Our politicians own investor housing at a much higher rate than the general population so their vested interest may be keeping us from stopping the investor subsidies. Mind you the only party who has actually taken a change to negative gearing and CGT discounts to an election was Labor.

@Robert-fx3ng 2 ай бұрын

@@chrisburnett4742 good luck

@joshdrougas7419 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely we need to do something about housing cost and insentive giving to rich people to drive up housing cost instead of them investing that money into infrastructure which would help all of us instead of a house that does nothing and most of the time sits empty

@stephenbrickwood1602 Ай бұрын

@chuckizowsky4181 2 ай бұрын

Renewable energy is NOT green, it all requires fossil fuel, including nuclear. Might be less cost to use natural gas.

@hariseldon3786 2 ай бұрын

Nuclear YAY!!!

@peterkramer288 2 ай бұрын

Our atmosphere and our earth needs more Co2. The only sensible option is to commission an energy supply that creates the most emissions of Co2. So obviously build a lot of new coal power stations asap, If you care.

@Roger-gd8bc 2 ай бұрын

I remember reading an article by a couple of scientists, who had modelled a plan to mine calcium carbonate from the sea bed, then processing (burning) that to release carbon dioxide. There study pointed to the fact the earth would be depleted of CO2, sometime in the future.

@lynndonharnell422 2 ай бұрын

Lotsa luck trying to get an aluminium smelter going.

@darkedge4011 2 ай бұрын

How odd a forum funded by a shadowy right wing billionaire is anti green energy 😂

@elichabassol5238 2 ай бұрын

You mean inefficient and insufficient methods like wind and solar?

@bmx13andit52 2 ай бұрын

You mean the side of common sense and anti child grooming and anti child castrating is funding a forum to speak common sense policies because all of the MSM is controlled by the left and speak nothing but delusion and division

@darkedge4011 2 ай бұрын

@@elichabassol5238 actual factual experience in Sweden, China, Cost Rica, New Zealand, the UK and various other countires would prove otherwise

@elichabassol5238 2 ай бұрын

@@darkedge4011 and then a cloud drifts by or the wind stops blowing. And if you want to talk about actual factual, China uses way more coal than any Western nation. But you don't see the activists protesting them, how odd.

@elichabassol5238 2 ай бұрын

You mean the same China that relies heavily on coal?

@PPYM7293 2 ай бұрын

At least put 78% tax for sovereign fund ffs

@PPYM7293 2 ай бұрын

Let me be PM I'll make it right .