Pango Music Flying V Guitar Kit EP 1 Unboxing and Review

[@talh123]

Thank you so much for sharing this video series! Thanks to you, I could build my kit in about 6 hours, across 5 days. Some notes if you're interested: 1. I applied the initial black staining using acrylic black dye mixed with a lot of water - then I didn't need to sand it back, while the grains did come out significantly. 2. I used acrylic dyes mixed with water for the whole staining, including the neck and the back of the body. It dries very fast. 3. Used Elmer's wood glue, this is what they sell in my country. It dried overnight. 4. I managed with the supplied electronics and tuners. 5. I'm only frustrated with the flying v shape that partly blocks the access to the highest frets. 6. Overall, thanks to your comprehensive guidance, I could build a beautiful working electric guitar. It's my first time doing something like that, so it definitely isn't trivial. Thanks 🙂😀🎸

[@billsguitargarage]

first off, Thank You! I will have to try the acrylic dyes. Thank you for the rundown on them. Definitely check out the other Flying V kits. The one I did in Candy Red has a different neck to body joint and there is full access on the neck.

[@talh123]

@@billsguitargarage thanks!

[@talh123]

@@billsguitargarage btw I guess I meant acrylic paints rather than dyes. I'm not sure what's the difference. I meant to those little bottles or tubes of liquid acrylic paints you can find in a typical art store.

[@andyreid7274]

Thanks for posting my son and i are going to build a razorback soon.

[@billsguitargarage]

That should be a fun kit to build. My only "must do" recommendation is buy a better set of tuners. The ones that come with the kit are almost unusable. If you look at the series I posted, there is a link to the tuners I got off of ebay (or Amazon) Nice locking tuners for under$40

[@andyreid7274]

@@billsguitargarage I figured most of the hardware would need an upgrade. Thanks for the reply and advice!

[@tricorn1776]

Thanks I was thinking of getting one myself.

[@billsguitargarage]

Check out my video series on the Flying V Custom kit. There is an affiliate link in the description that will apply a discount to your order.

[@heikoschwammle4650]

looking forward - actually I build an Flying-V kit myself. I routed out the pickup cavities for P90s. Allready built it just need to finish the paintjob.

[@billsguitargarage]

Put some picture up. Would love to see it. Looking forward to this build, with the flame maple top I plan to do some sort of dye for the colour, and probably go vintage white for the back of the body and neck. Still undecided, but looking forward to everyone's inputs

[@heikoschwammle4650]

@@billsguitargarage unfortunately I don‘t have the maple top so I go with a coloured finish. Got a Video when I first played it - maybe I put that up (never done a youtube video before so, leave me some time)

[@heikoschwammle4650]

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[@sinakaedwards2009]

@@billsguitargarage The back of the neck had nice grain the body did as well, I think you should do the back natural or just a light stain, the grain looked good from what I seen, but I like grain.

[@michaelpal7641]

Really nice looking-only thing that's holding me back?-On the Pango site it shows the body but without no holes drilled for the bridge/tailpiece.

[@billsguitargarage]

I took a look on the site, there are several V kits and I only saw 1 kit that didn't have the bridge holes drilled. All the other ones showed the holes drilled. My guess is even the one that didn't show the holes drilled would be drilled as well.

[@michaelpal7641]

​@@billsguitargarage Thank you Sir for your response. Guess it's time to dive in.

[@sinakaedwards2009]

Pretty cool kit, I've been wanting to put together a guitar. I play bass and love my Thunderbird. The V is a guitar I have always been a big fan of. I think a burst would look cool, like yellow in the middle bursting to red and then bursting to the black edge, if that makes sense. Like a fire burst.

[@billsguitargarage]

Definitely going with a red to black burst, the yellow is a good Idea so I may give that a try.

[@sinakaedwards2009]

@@billsguitargarage Can't wait to see it, what do you use as a sealer/clearcoat?

[@billsguitargarage]

@@sinakaedwards2009 I’ll use a pre catalyzed vinyl sealer. Will probable use a 2k gloss clear coat. Haven’t used it before, so will be the first time..

[@sinakaedwards2009]

@@billsguitargarage Nice, I have no clue what those are. but it will make it interesting to see for sure.

[@mikelovesguitars402]

I've toyed with the idea of building a kit guitar for YEARS. Realistically though, my complete lack of woodworking skills has always kept me from pulling the trigger... 🤣

[@billsguitargarage]

For the price on the kit, you really can't go wrong. It assembles very easily.

[@DavidVArt]

I would LOVE to talk with you about this kit. I recently built a Parker kit from them. I had parts missing and tons of extra packs of screws for who knows what. It took them 3 months to respond to me and when they did, I was told it was impossible for their kits to be anything but perfect. Impossible. Which is ridiculous of course but I'd love to know if you had any interactions with them.

[@billsguitargarage]

So far I have had great experiences. With both kits all of the hardware has been there and everything fit together very well. I have also had great interaction with them. No long delays in answering questions or following up on things.

[@RustyGunn7]

The truss rod on my Yinfente neck was sticking out like this. I tapped it in because it slid out beyound where i was supposed to be. Your's may have slid out as well.

[@billsguitargarage]

I think my was just positioned incorrectly. It went into place easy enough and works just fine. Due to the force required to put it back into position, it is unlikely that it slide out on its own.

[@yellowcat1310]

Hey Bill, good to see you. the kit does not look too bad. i guess you can't sand too much on that top with that thin veneer. so with a white back, i'm thinking a light colored top. first i thought maybe a teal burst or fade but it's a Flying V; teal won't work. 😽 hmmm. OK, how about a burst with ice blue fading to white in the middle. whatever you come up with is going to look great. cpould you wind pickups if you were sent wooden pieces? i've been watching John Letts making wooden pickups on his basses and they look so good. maybe check out his vid on it and tell me what you think. if i do it it will be a while before i'm starting on that bass, but withing a few months surely.

[@billsguitargarage]

Hiya, Thanks, I am leaning toward a red colour on it. I will just have to be carful when I sand back the black. I can definitely help you out on the pickup side of things. Let me know once you get closer to pulling the trigger on that, and I'll take a look at John Letts site.

[@derekwright5564]

I thought truss rods were supposed to be glued in so they do not move up/down or spin?

[@billsguitargarage]

No, no need to glue in. If it is a 2 way truss rod like the one on this neck, the rod is taller then it is wide so it will not move in the slot. I checked the operation of it and it works perfectly

[@matthewotremba9230]

Should the truss rod not be anchored on the Glue joint end ???? How would it create tension otherwise Anchored on both ends ,,,, NO ?

[@billsguitargarage]

No it is fine. It’s a duel action truss rod so no need to anchor the ends. The slot keeps it from rotating and the bow is generated by the duel action of the truss rod. Now, some of the vintage style truss rods do need to be anchored.

[@ullabratt1900]

Its looks like 67 model I try to buy it, I hope its same size on the body, the problem is to find a neck,. Kjell from Sweden

[@billsguitargarage]

The kit does come with a neck.

[@rayfabris2512]

did the neck need any adjustment from you or did it glue right in? thanks

[@billsguitargarage]

It was a perfect fit. No adjustment needed at all.

[@MatthewBlackMetal]

How long did it take to get to you from the time of ordering?

[@billsguitargarage]

About 6 weeks. It was showing as out of stock when I ordered it so there was some delay because of that. Once I received the shipping notice, it took it about 2 weeks to arrive.

[@glb5053]

Hi Bill. I just ordered the bolt on version with the black binding and spalted maple top. Im hoping it arrives that it arrives a little quicker than yours and that it doesn't suck. lol Couple questions. Did they reach out aside from the order confirmation? If so, how long did that take? I think I'm going to try a Tru-Oil finish on mine. Im interested to see what upgrades you end up doing, and if standard Gibson/Epi bridge pieces jive with it if you go that route.

[@billsguitargarage]

Hiya, No there was no communication other then order confirmation and shipping confirmation. I initially ordered mine on 7 Feb and got shipping notification on 17 March. The kit arrived about 7 to 10 days later. I think you'll be happy with it. As a guitar builder (several full build posted on my channel) I am happy with the kit overall. The spalted maple top will be really cool, but FYI.. The spalted top will be very soft (its just the nature of spalted wood) so be very carful when sanding the top as it will be very easy to sand through the veneer. And it will take a bunch of Tru-Oil coats to get the top wo a level even shine.

[@glb5053]

Right on, Bill. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I think I'm going to go for a satin-ish finish. Do you think the Tru-Oil will toughen up the top enough so that it's not super delicate? I don't think I want to sand the top too much at all if I don't have to. I know the veneers are super thin.

[@billsguitargarage]

@@glb5053 Yes, I think once you get the Tru-oil to saturate the top it will be fine. I built a Solo Guitar Kit with a spalted top and once the lacquer went on it made it much more solid.

[@glb5053]

@Bill's Guitar Garage - Bill Taylor Cool! I'm looking forward to the next video in this series. In the meantime, I'll go back and check out some of your other builds.

[@billsguitargarage]

@@glb5053 🤘I'll be posting the second video on this build shortly. Doing the final edits on it now.

[@fabian7463]

How long does it take to fulfill a guitar? I been waiting over 1 month and they supposedly were building it.

[@billsguitargarage]

I imagine that waiting’s vary. It was about 50 days for the one I ordered

[@fabian7463]

@@billsguitargarage thank you! Before I found this channel I was worried that it was a scam.

[@ullabratt1900]

Is this 1967 Flying V kit?

[@billsguitargarage]

It is the PFV-905 kit on the Pango Music site.

[@TheGreatSnafoo]

A loose truse rod is no good pushing it back isn't going to stop it from shifting it should be tight in the neck.

[@billsguitargarage]

No, not al all. It is a duel acting truss rod and when I pushed it in, it seated very well and had no front or aft movement and had full adjustment both direction. Had the guitar almost a year now and play it all the time. The neck is rock solid stable and there are no rattles, etc... coming from the truss rod.

[@TheGreatSnafoo]

@@billsguitargarage truss rods don't have a dual purpose they're not supposed to slide top to bottom they are designed to straighten and reinforce the neck only. There's no such thing as a dual action truss rod.

[@billsguitargarage]

@@TheGreatSnafoo I must disagree. Here is a link for a dual action truss rod www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/materials/truss-rods/adjustable-truss-rods/hot-rod-low-profile-2-way-truss-rod/ That is what is installed in this neck. There are also one way truss rods like you mentioned. Both Gibson and Fender tend to use those and they are indeed different from what is installed in this guitar. I also build guitar from scratch and I use dual action truss rods in all of my builds. Also, that a look at the Warmoth web site (the make Fender Style replacement necks). You can get dual action truss rods in their modern construction necks.

[@TheGreatSnafoo]

@@billsguitargarage don't care really, I know the facts if your using truss rods that just float in the neck it will ultimately fail you. use them by all means but stucturely it makes no sense, the truss rod in any well built guitar have rods that do not float in a neck.

[@steve1774]

Thanx for the review , I was considering buying one but not now . Most things I have bought that are made in China by slave labor are crap . I really miss American made quality products...

[@billsguitargarage]

It is a good kit. I have been playing this one for a year now and it's still plays and feels great.

[@gferrie]

I would absolutely not purchase a guitar kit from this company. When I unboxed the kit and reviewed the body and neck. the laminate was buckled in 2 places so it was impossible to glue back down and repair. The neck had scratches on it that were so deep they could not be sanded out. When I sent an email and complained about the state of the kit they ignored me for weeks. When I finally did receive a reply after 5 emails they informed me that if I wanted I could send it back (at my expense) and they would determine if they would replace it or refund my money. When I showed them the photos of the veneer buckling they said and I quote "This is a diy guitar kit, no sanding, no polishing, For this little issue, it can be fixed by some glue easily". Which of course it can't. Stay well clear of this company and purchase from a reputable company.

[@billsguitargarage]

Sorry to hear you had issues. I have seen several posts from folks that have had similar issues. I'm happy mine was overall of good quality when it arrived. For the price point they are hitting, I can see where there could easily be some QC problems. Plus dealing with a geographically separated company can pose issies.

[@ppeq-world]

hi Gregg Ferrie, we don't deal with any order issues here, but we checked all your emails carefully and cases. for your order, #13241, PRS-727 kit, there is a maple veneer on the body top. for this vneer, it is still a kind of natural wood. and our workers believe that it can be fixed very easily. if you can not fix it, it is surely ok, you just need to destroy the old guitar body, we can send a new one to you. we will ask our new info and support deapartment to contact you asap.

[@ppeq-world]

hi Gregg Ferrie, for every guitar and kit, our workers will check it carefully, we never sell bad guitar or kit to our customers. the veneer on the body top is still a kind of natural wood, no facotry can keep always keep it in perfect conditon. we have new after-sales support team and policy now, and they will check your case again and contact you by emails soon.

[@5skov]

looks like a hog v, the fretboard goes too deep into the body, like a bolt on

[@billsguitargarage]

Yeah, the neck goes in at the 16th fret, where normally on a Gibson V they go in around the 19th. But it is a kit, so didn't expect it to be exact. More interested in how the kit goes together and the Playability of it.

[@5skov]

@@billsguitargarage maybe power sand lower access and give f about binding?

[@HesheR82]

Nice looking guitars but I will never buy from pango again. They look good but they ALL have issues. some minor and some big. I got an explorer kit and my issue was bad. I think they sell kits with issues at reduced price but dont tell you. If you email them about it they will offer you 20$ off or return on your dime. most wont send back so in end they keep money. STAY AWAY from these kits unless you are pretty handy with repairs. every single youtuber with pango kits all have issues. WARNING!! NECK ANGLE, BRIDGE POSTS NOT IN CORRECT PLACE, TRUS ROD LOL, MINE INPUT JACK HOLE SO OFF CENTERED WAS SO UGLY. and was told its suppose to be like that and oh we check all our guitars and they perfect before shipping lol.

[@billsguitargarage]

Thanks for your input. I've been lucky so far. The only issue I have come across was the truss rod and that was a very simple fix. I did check the neck break angle prior to gluing the neck in and that was fine. Still a bit from the finish line so there may be a p[problem or two still lurking around the corner, but the issue you stated above are exactly why I wanted to build and review this kit. At the price point, it can be either a great deal, or a waste of money, but with the low price its not too bad if you have to write it off.

[@HesheR82]

@@billsguitargarage yea i have to say they have the best looking kits and price. you can have a great looking guitar in end with some work. but not everybody is handy like that so buyer beware.

[@thewisecracker-rq1pu]

***UPDATE**** I have finally received the guitar on November 25 2023 after waiting 4 years! It arrived with a chip/nick/scratch/blemish on one of the tails, right out of the box! Also, it is missing some of the decals that were shown on the item detail photos, probably due to copyright issues. ******************* I have also had a terrible experience (and still am) with Ann Jiang of Pango Music. I paid for a finished guitar on 9-22-2019 and never received it. She kept giving excuse after excuse as to what was taking so long and at times seemed to taunt me by offering a different guitar and when I agreed, she'd then tell me that guitar was no longer available and then offer a different one, this went on for awhile until I realized I was getting played. I am very upset about the whole thing. At this point I'd be happy with a refund but at one point she said she cannot do that and now will not respond to any emails. I tried reporting this to the made in china heads of site but they tell me there's nothing they can do. I'm out $355 and very unhappy. By the way, the guitar I paid for was their model PYX-414, the Dimebag dixie rebel clone. I have 87 emails and paypal receipt to prove all of this. How sad/mad I am...

[@billsguitargarage]

@@thewisecracker-rq1pu I can understand why you are not happy! I wouldn't be either if that had been my experience.

[@ppeq-world]

As the COVID issue, we can not build guitars and ship them out of China for 3 years, didn't we tell you that? did you tell the watchers here? we always reply your emails in time, we think you are a very professional luthier and gentleman, but we are wrong. all kinds of China factories resume production nearly on March, 2023. for this guitar, the building time is usually about 60 days.we finished this guitar for you on November and shipped it out. now you have received this guitar, refused to reply our emails, and make fake terrible words here! we are very very disappointed with your words. we will make some replies here and tell all the truth out. @@thewisecracker-rq1pu