Panic - Innocents Shot in Manhunt for Cop Turned Killer

[@fdsbabwino]

R.I.P Bro for doing that, its ironic that he is a policeman using violence against police officers and family, good job from U.K

[@Nallanyesmar]

z Ir Yeah. Stick it to duh man, know'n tay'n?

[@rasnac]

U.S. has always been very good at creating its own monsters.

[@nogear2000]

RIP hereo

[@princeaizen]

Am I the only one that thinks there is more to this

[@back1879]

4 people died, 3 of them were cops. This guy is dead and we can all rest

[@HoChiMinh30abril1975]

Thank you Mr. Dorner.

[@jamesmorton6934]

Who is Here in 2020?

[@patchesohoulihan2009]

These people need to get their facts before they start talking

[@seancollins8804]

That explains why this manhunt was called Dorner Madness.

[@FactChecking101]

They seemed to have researched enough to know that Dorner's trainer was accused of kicking a mentally handicapped man and know all three witnesses, a murderer, a mentally handicapped man, and his father. What they intentionally OMITTED was the trainer had just failed Dorner. Dorner didn't report the alleged assault for weeks until after he was failed. There were 3 independent witnesses that say the kicking didn't happen. It's so one sided it's OBVIOUS.

[@HumanReverend]

I love how it takes something like this to make people even begin to feel sympathetic for cops in this country, and they still fuck it up by shooting people at random.

[@FlyoviaUSA]

No one's bringing it up because it's completely wrong. They fired on these trucks several hours BEFORE they found his burned up truck. The real insanity is that they fired on the truck without positively IDing the occupants and being attacked.

[@crashburn3292]

I lived in Wescherster CA, a stones throw across the 405 from Inglewood and watched the city burn. If someone doing what Dorner's doing, is a good thing - Like you said, "But now at least the the officers will think twice before sweeping claims of abuse under the rug, especially since their family might get hurt for their actions." Then why is the LAPD supposedly still abusive? If the LA riots didn't cure that problem, what makes you think one mad killing innocent people is going to?

[@hoagiesupreme]

He killed a young woman who had the misfortune of being related to the guy who represented him in court. People's lives get turned upside down every day. If one of your Mom or Dads acquaintances' gets wronged and their life gets turned upside down, should I praise them for targeting and killing you? Say what ever you want about him killing those personally responsible, but killing their relatives is pretty fucking stupid. It is HUMAN LIFE he is ending. He is murdering women...

[@crashburn3292]

"As an officer Mr. Dorner had a responsibility to report the problem of illegal actions being performed by his co-workers." You don't even know how to comprehend what you read and interpret it into a plausible thought! I think what you meant to say was, "Officer Dorner had a responsibilty to report any illegal actions being committed by his co-workers." And just because that didn't work, he DOES NOT have the right to kill people. Why don't you go read a book called "Serpico."

[@TruthSurge]

"We need cops that's think before they react" True. I have been arrested from my own HOME due to an inbred filing a warrant of arrest and letting it SIT there (somehow) until I called the police about her dogs barking at 11pm at night constantly. She knew I would call eventually. They came, and I was arrested and hauled to jail in handcuffs. ! They have to do a job but other times I see poor judgment. Silly judgment. Excessive force. Their mental structures are just off.

[@xy11xy]

The notion that you could "reward" Dorner is a wrong thinking. Right is right. Justice is justice. The truth is the truth. You can't reward or punish someone by either acknowledging, or denying any of these three. By suggesting you can, you are acting in the same way LAPD is believed to have acted by punishing Dorner for whistleblowing. LAPD is alleged to have punished Dorner by denying the truth because they didn't like the way he acted.

[@PhillyKid07]

what is the best way to punish someone? killing someone else they love dearly, this leaves them helpless and living with guilt. Worst than death imo

[@Snowman0147]

The fact they went door to door searching for him, and ended up shooting at innocent people cause their van looks like the suspect. It leaves a lot of questions. Questions that need to be answered.

[@FactChecking101]

Sure. They stated that Dorner, the murderer, a schizophrenic man and the man's father were witness against Dorner's trainers. They OMITTED that there were 3 independent witnesses that supported the female trainer. Do you know how rare police brutality against the handicapped by a female is? They also omitted that this alleged assault from weeks earlier didn't come up until the trainer informed Dorner he was failing. Notice they only use "alleged" when referring to Dorner and not the trainer?

[@cuppa_joe]

I totally disagree with Cenk. I'm going to use the same argument that Cenk used when discussing gun control right after a school shooting. When is it the right time to talk about police corruption and brutality? After 10 accounts of excessive force and deaths of innocent victims? How about 20? It's the right time to talk about these issues. The police are supposed to be trained professionals and not vigilantes. Protect and serve. They shouldn't be shooting first and asking questions later.

[@SchizophrenicQueen]

As someone with schizophrenia I am very afraid of the police. As someone who was in the Navy, I know that being in the Navy doesn't really mean you get any sort of 'special training' (unless it has to do with your job, and your ability within your job) 3. What would be the point of shooting people who were never involved, and could not therefor have committed any grievance against the suspect? What reason at all would he have to kill them??

[@ancalites]

It should be pretty clear that Dorner never gave two shits about fighting corruption in the department, and was actually more concerned with getting petty revenge for alleged slights. Why would he bother posting a rambling manifesto and drawing a massive amount of attention to himself if he were truly commited to rooting out corrupt cops one by one? He wanted to make this whole thing about the ego of Christopher Dorner, not the little man getting crushed under the jackboot of the police state.

[@xy11xy]

As cold-blooded as Dorner's actions were, they had a strange discipline. He wasn't shooting at random cars. Re rewarding killers, it is either luck or that LAPD are lousy shots that those 3 people they shot at didn't die. Are you rewarding them for ALMOST murdering 3 people?

[@EnigmaHood]

I'm with on Anna on this one. LAPD is corrupt and this guy is bringing it all to light. Time to pay attention America.

[@Vex595]

Problem is that this guy was innocent but has now become guilty because of his thought of vengeance.

[@Hestrun]

To boldly answer your question: For the record, Dorner is not targeting random people. He knows clearly who to target; therefore its not a question of whether or not it would be ok for Dorner to kill our family members because his vendetta is not random, but rather organized and specific. Everyone who he has killed thus far are related to the corrupt LAPD family whether directly or by family association... Knock-knock, Time to wake up sir...

[@mustangkrillin]

So HOW somebody is killed is more important than the fact that they were murdered? When 99% of guns are owned and used legally, that's not enough justification for me to give up my rights. Maybe that's a cultural misunderstanding that Europeans will never understand, but in the US my right to a firearm is as protected as my right of free speech. You can call it however you like, but my forefathers died for ALL my rights so I find it cowardly to just give them up due to the actions of criminals.

[@egojames007]

He was not a team player. and he was on the most corrupt team in america. LAPD officers have a code, we agree on what to write, and that is Gospel. No doubling back. No calling internal affairs, no dropping a dime. Thats the team. You like your pay check? we are hating and hitting everybody. the LA PD is no place for boy scouts. Big had a personal beef with Evans, and it spilled over into the reports. The guy who gets in trouble is the guy who double backs after the ink is dry. no doubling back.

[@virtuvianTrace]

This should be the gateway to a serious national discussion on the institutionalized complicity of police brutality cover-ups.

[@ash-iz4hy]

The officers responsible for shooting up that vehicle with innocent women inside of it will face no punishment. There will be no repercussions. The incident is just being shrugged off as "oh well shit happens" by both the LAPD and the NEWS MEDIA. We are truly living in a authoritarian police state, where police can behave as badly and as irresponsible as they want and face absolutely no consequences.

[@ash-iz4hy]

What's your argument to get rid of "assault weapons" if you not for the mass shootings? Lay it out for me.

[@Dudeinator6599]

I don't think it's okay for Dorner to be killing anyone. I also don't think it's okay that the LAPD has basically adopted a "shoot to kill" mentality. There is pretty much no interest for the LAPD to bring in Dorner alive, and that is a big problem in how they're handling the situation at the moment.

[@cominroitover80]

This. He's in the wrong for going after family members but honestly the LAPD has no moral high ground over him given how many innocent people they kill. Hell they couldnt help shooting at two random people in the search for this guy. His accounts of police conduct in his manifesto seem very realistic. I don't think he's lying. Honestly I'm glad the LAPD is getting a taste of their own medicine.

[@QueenLioness84]

This situation is beyond out of control. LAPD officials are shooting at random people who are driving similar vehicles!! What?! What's worse, I'm sure there will be NO accountability for that at all. Suspension without pay is the worse they'll get.

[@cherucheruchan1992]

The support I see for this guy is frightening. He is not a hero. He is a cold blooded killer. Going after people's families is despicable. Neither his actions or the actions of the police are justified here.

[@literallyhitler3059]

Way to generalize. Just because you got busted for smoking pot doesn't mean cops = criminals.

[@ash-iz4hy]

"The LAPD is so overwhelming corrupt, it's disgusting." The most disgusting part about this incident is that NOBODY is holding them accountable. Where are all the journalists at in this country? WHY IS THE LAPD ALLOWED TO SHOOT UP VEHICLES AND FACE NO CONSEQUENCES?!!???????

[@swordsman3000]

You misunderstand my point...To say that No one is allowed to have assault rifles (but are allowed to own pistols) is like saying that No one is allowed to own a Corvette ( but are allowed to own 6 cylinder Mustangs) because some people wont drive the Vette responsibly What you fail to realize also is that our Founders N-E-V-E-R intended for us to have a 'Military'..They wanted The Militia to be well 'regulated'...Meaning that The People were to always have access to all 'Arms' needed to fight

[@zephrith22]

Ms Bachman comes out to deliver an updated report, and the first question asked by a reporter was, "How did this fire take place?" She ignores the question and goes on to say "I can tell you how he first entered the cabin earlier today, he stole a white truck..." Honestly, I'd like to believe people watching can't seriously be this dense.. Not saying I agree with Mr. Dorner for taking the lives of anyone, but what he was fighting against(The police force, LAPD) is beyond understandable.

[@Amsah]

Same reason I don't want the general public to drive around in tanks or have access to high explosives. Unless you're fighting a war, robbing a bank or committing some kind of other crime, they serve no purpose. So powerful weapons like that simply shouldn't be available.

[@hallmonitor98]

you know there werent any witnesses to the murder of those two innocent people. and after the cops shot up two vehicles without confirming who was in the vehicles, it woundnt be far fetched for them to wrongfully accuse Dorner with murder.

[@KCKatheist]

Thank you-I'm grateful for your patience and your kind response. Generally speaking, I try not to allow my emotions to drive my comments here-as a skeptic/rationalist/scientist, doing so renders my position invalid. This horrific circumstance, however, has gotten under my skin, and it hurts. Again, thank you. I needed to hear from a thinking, feeling human being. ~Kaycee

[@YoshimitsuBloodPedal]

Dude he killed an innocent 27 year old woman and her fiancee. Hero?

[@SadiesAriel]

I know this isn't overly important to the story, but the two women were actually Latinas. The mother was 71 and was shot twice in the back and taken to the hospital in stable condition. Her daughter (in her mid-late 40s) was hit by broken glass from the truck windows. Also, the truck was not the right blue color, nor the right make/model/brand as the suspect's truck. This is just another example of over zealous, gun happy police. Last year it was Florida, this year it's California.

[@FactChecking101]

No, he SCREAMED and RANTED that the right was the cause of the shootings. Do your homework.

[@jadehare]

LAPD should explain why they are brutalizing innocents. They have to change their ways instead of torturing civilians.

[@TheDallasReport]

Did you miss the part about them reporting the fact that he just killed innocent people? It's pretty OBVIOUS!

[@crashburn3292]

I'm from LA too and you need to read more of my posts here before you decide what I'm about. And yes, you CAN read about the decades of abuse the LAPD has inflicted upon South Central, Torrance, South Gate, ETC. You also can't possible understand where I'm coming from when for the most part, I'm defending myself from people who want to do nothing on this site but get into an argument.

[@neckarsulme]

20,000 cops on overtime couldn't find Dorner, he was laughing at them from a cabin 100 yards from the command post. Dorner wins.

[@YoungTon22]

What police force in America is free of corruption or racism or excessive violence? Especially in a major city

[@tompenny104]

“The worst thing to call somebody is crazy. It’s dismissive. ‘I don’t understand this person. So they’re crazy.’ That’s bullshit. These people are not crazy. They’re strong people. Maybe their environment is a little sick.” -Dave Chappelle

[@Silidons91]

There was nothing about weapons at all in the original manifesto. Someone edited it, I read the original one. I'm anti-gun but this has nothing to do with gun laws...

[@jazon345]

First of all, calm down. Why did he have to murder relatives and why is he still going to murder relatives? I'm not saying it's okay for him to murder cops, but I can't stop him from it, but it's fucked up that he's going after families. Innocent, families. Think about that for a second. The police aren't any better by shooting at cars that resemble his, but still under no circumstance should a fucking family be murdered for something they had nothing to do with. Love you too.

[@lilgrasshoppah]

A soldier killing innocent people, in service to a tactical goal? They do that sort of thing?

[@Vex595]

This guy is using pure psychological warfare here. Burning that truck was a start, now they are assuming that this was his truck, but at the same time they aren't sure so every truck is a possible weapon. Now they don't know where he is, he could be sighting their heads in on a scope right now or he could be messing with the families. Obviously this guy knows how to mess with the cops minds and he is exploiting that fear in a very effective manner.

[@Cosmo1093]

There's nothing that says "serve and protect" quite like unloading 50 rounds at the backs of two elderly hispanic women while they were delivering newspapers. Its hilarious how scared the cops are that they'd put a $1 million bounty on his head. There's no way they'd offer that much money if the guy was *just* a serial killer targeting normal civilians. At this point, I'm starting to favor Rambo over the LAPD.

[@Nx2.1]

Here in the UK our cops don't generally carry guns. Cops carrying guns just escalates violence. In England they are just charged under heath and safety legislation for shooting someone on a train... ffs

[@hiphopesq]

Tyt nailed it: LAPD are proving Dorner's point. Don't want to promote Dorner's actions, but LAPD needs to shoulder some responsibility here.

[@mustangkrillin]

Officially, LAPD claims they dismissed him because the claims, which were investigated at several levels, showed no merit. The supervisor he is claiming did these things had written several negative performance reports on him shortly before he decided to blow the whistle. It's possible that is all part of the cover up, but I'm less than inclined to believe the guy shooting his lawyer's daughter.

[@djmenez10]

Why would you shoot a car that looked like his when he burnt his car awhile ago.... Cops missed that memo?

[@Okkako1]

LAPD want to silence this man because he know something that he shouldn't.

[@nolanharris4111]

The LAPD is proving this guys point. As of now, they have targeted and/or injured just as many innocent people as Dorner has trying to get to him. The fact that they are shooting first and asking questions second, and trying to kill anybody that fits this man's description proves how truly powerful he is. They're goal isn't to catch this man and allow him to tell his story, they're goal is to kill him and silence him. I wonder how many more people the LAPD will injure/kill trying to get to him

[@LaDay1471]

I cant help but support the guy, Ive been a victim of police intimidation when I was the one that called them, never make that mistake again. But its soo bad and obvious, cops dont even really hide there corruption anymore, we just have to sit back and take it. Maybe if more people stand up and make these cops feel the fear they give to others simply for the ego trip, maybe they wont be so quick to harm an innocent person theyre supposedly here to protect.

[@runningchance]

Dorner has scared the snot out of the LAPD. There are more than a hundred cowardly cops and their families that have left LA and are now in hiding. They never should have fired Dorner for reporting another cops criminal actions but that is just the way LAPD covers up things so frequently. Calling Dorner a domestic terrorist is absolutely silly. He is a vigilante who has committed murder in retaliation of those cops who have wronged society, which is a crime but he is not a domestic terrorist.

[@adamabramowitz9]

Extreme conditions demand extreme response.

[@AlyciaC]

Very few situations are ever black & white. The fact that so many people refuse to accept this is truly amazing, it's also very sad. This situation is the perfect example. There has been wrong done on BOTH sides. Obviously the best way to prevent atrocities like this in the future is to figure out what the hell went wrong. If you open your mind it's staring you right in the face. How many more people have to die before we figure this out?

[@ariesaftershock]

The LAPD are careless and desperate to find this man, and the chief commanding officer said he will use any and all the money he needs to find this man. Mr Dorner has made it clear in his manifesto that he wants his NAME cleared and to expose the corruption within the LAPD. It just seems like he might be telling the truth, and also it pretty much seems like LAPD fears and refuses of being uncovered as these corrupted system that Dorner portraits them to be.

[@Dreadnaught1985]

well, that bans the sale of automatic weapons. It doesn't ban the sale of semi-automatics. Which is what are now referred to as select fire or "assault" weapons.

[@alzeimer5399]

And kills a young woman who was the daughter of the man that tried to defend him....yeah he's a real hero.

[@egojames007]

he could have written what happened. thats it. thats all. She could have worked around it. but he was slow to write that day. She took the paper and wrote the story herself. he then doubled back and called an internal affairs guy, who was upset at Mr Big for calling him and dropping a dime. he was not a whistle blower, he was in a battle with Evans and took it to reporting her after the report was written. sad for all the victims.

[@rocky19421]

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." ...except when that bad guy with a gun was once a good guy with a gun until the good guys with guns accused the good guy with a gun of being a bad guy. The good guys then fired the good guy in a bad economy thus transforming into a complete bad guy. So now the bad guy with a gun who was once a good guy with a gun now has motive for revenge and knows the good guys with a gun every move.....

[@TeMpTeK1]

Timothy McVeigh wasnt a conservative.. he was a "V for vendetta" Libertarian.... BIG DIFFERENCE.

[@lostinrubacava]

Have any of the charges against him been proven? Whether he is guilty or not, it looks as if the LAPD has no intention of his going to trial. If they blast holes in a car containing two small women with no warning, it gives me the idea that they'll blast holes in him without ever saying, "Hands up." And now it's okay to use drones on him. Great. Goodbye 5th amendment.

[@Juntahh]

How come everyone seems to be failing to bring up the point THAT HE BURNED HIS CAR ITS A TOTAL WRECK. How the fuck can they justify shooting at cars that look like his, WHEN ITS BLOWN UP AND BURNED TO HELL? Insanity and NO ONES bringing that point up.

[@Deathbypimp]

He isnt going after people who aren't guilty he is targeting those individuals and their families who benefit directly from their corrupt behavior. He saw the system fundamentally fail and he decided to take things into his own hands. What good are words and laws if no one is enforcing them. This isn't Vengeance this is Punishment.

[@foresthanke44]

The guy is killing innocent family members, you must be pretty sick to call him a hero. Even if the LAPD is corrupt as fuck, he's no better.

[@aphyd23]

I don't doubt some officers cover for corrupt and abusive colleagues. But I'm still glad we have police instead of people running around like vigilantes. Its entirely reasonable to support the police while opposing corruption.

[@450hp202turbo]

COPS are crooks this guy tries to expose them , they sack him , he gets revenge

[@ULTRXBLXCK]

I think we need to not only look at him but start asking questions of the LAPD too. This whole situation is sick not just on his part but the LAPDs part too.

[@BottleConcreteBlond]

Okay, we have to back the fuck up. The fact that the cops are wrong doesn't make this guy right.

[@AnonYmous-ns9vq]

So are the cops in question going to get into any kind of trouble? Shooting people w/o provocation, not really something that we just say "oh, they were scared, they should shoot at ANYONE when they are scared".

[@jupitersrx7]

Its not whistle blowing. Its judgement. Everyone has a breaking point. Even a "good guy with a gun". You want the right to shoot a weapon? Just remember you have the right to get shot by one.

[@strikerwyatt]

I think my son would be a good police officer. I used to encourage him to go in that direction until one day I realized that he would come up against a criminal element on a daily basis.... Then he would have to leave the station and go on patrol.

[@DreamClean]

IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S NOT REALLY HIM.

[@crashburn3292]

For all you applauding Christopher Dorner and saying, "I don't approve of what he's going, but understand why he's doing it." (Tell that to the murdered people's families) Why do you think it's a "good thing?" Don't you know your history? If the LAPD is WORSE now than it was during the riots, then obviously the riots didn't work.....so why do you think Dorner driving aroung killing people is GOING to work? Nothing good can come from this, just like nothing good came from the riots.

[@FactChecking101]

Exaggerate much? "The rocket launchers were U.S. made, owned privately though illegal, and turned over to police under the no questions asked buyback. They thankfully had no rockets in them."

[@MrVidsAllDay]

As crazy as it sounds, I feel for this guy. I want him to get the chance to say everything he has to say. I just hope no more innocent people have to die for him to do so.

[@Hestrun]

Very valid point. There is something insanely suspicious about police officers shooting up cars that are similar to Dorner's before even confirming whether or not he's even inside. There is an underlined extreme effort to keep Dorners mouth shut. I wish he would make a tell-all video and get it to the press somehow. It is possible.

[@foresthanke44]

He's talking about actual assault weapons. Not the 1994 ban.

[@Teezatos]

People need to stfu saying it's the worst way to whistleblow. He's tried to go through the system and got fucked. He probably knows what happened to Bradly Manning and realized there's no hope going down that road.

[@TheCraigy111]

Yeah, always protect Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, but especially Saturday and Sunday, always gotta protect the weekend lol

[@TheBrucemmoulton]

You can read the uniform, it says U S Army and the rank says Captain. A Navy Captain is a high ranking officer and a Army Captain is a mid-level officer. Both take years to get promoted to. What is the story on this picture?

[@deepfriedchocobo]

no justification for this murderer, but if you don't deal with corruption and brutality within your police force, then someone else will however they deem fit.....

[@TeMpTeK1]

Dude.....Your internet muscles are effin HUGE?

[@falcoperegrinus82]

They didn't just shoot the random asian women a few times either, they literally riddled their truck with bullet holes.

[@brian5o]

I really wish that you guys would look into the allegations that Chris Dorner has made. I have read his manifesto and I really believe what this guy has said. While I do not necessarily agree with his methods, I think he felt he needed to do something like this to prevent the abuse of power of the LAPD from being able to just be swept under the rug. Chris Dorner was willing to literally put his life on the line to expose the abuse of power of the LAPD and to stand up for what he believed in.

[@turtlecoal]

Well, the cop who was her father Knew that he was innocent (the officer confessed to abusing the suspect to the lawyer)But the lawyer knowing the truth still fired him and you have to think how many officers have done this and were fired and how many excessive abuse cases have been dismissed. I dont condone his actions. But now at least the the officers will think twice before sweeping claims of abuse under the rug, especially since their family might get hurt for their actions.

[@foresthanke44]

My whole thing is, I don't see how the police could be framing him or why they would because....He wrote a manifesto, clearly saying he was going after families, which is wrong, no matter how corrupt lapd is. If he didn't write that manifesto, then there wouldn't be much of a reason for the lapd to frame him in the first place, he was fired years ago, I'm sure they had forgot all about him.

[@dangermouse1337]

I tried to read your comments Bill, but THERE WERE NO WORDS ON THEM.