Pantheon Rise Of The Fallen,Thoughts and feedback

[@nosavepoints]

Yeah, this game was originally being made by the guy who created EverQuest. The point of the game was to be "hardcore" like EverQuest at launch.

[@pipz420]

"Was" to be. They want a mix between EQ and WoW.

[@Egad]

@@pipz420 That might not be entirely bad. I played EQ from launch thru 5 expansions. The game was awesome for it's time but had many issues as well. WoW made some drastic improvements in the MMO play which is why it became the most popular.

[@pipz420]

@@Egad Sorry I think I speak for a lot of people who dislike WoW design and was expecting something different. It might have been popular but I expect that is from better marketing.

[@Egad]

@@pipz420 I hear you. I found myself back in EQ for a time on Project99. I hated the community in WoW for the most part. I did like that any class could solo if needed and were more balanced.

[@brianlove3369]

@@Egad I think the loss of xp for death was the biggest reason most went to WOW that and PVP

[@warners2797]

Just started playing a month ago, I love it. Liked your video.

[@avinfun4781]

@@warners2797 thankyou

[@nagarpoe]

Finally tried a group last night at lvl 9.....it was SO FUN. I'm definitely happy i pledged last week to try this game out. It doesn't look amazing but i haven't had this much fun in a while in an mmo.

[@avinfun4781]

Great to hear!

[@ThePhaiden]

Great video especially for someone who hasn't played EQ.... Most of us EverQuest players are use to this but the we had a blank map at first. Also great comments from the community and questing is not the main point of the game. Its about killing mobs with other players

[@avinfun4781]

Thankyou

[@eboaz]

Concerning the lack of indication of where you die, you can do a /loc before you release to get coordinates. You can make a macro to do this a bit easier.

[@avinfun4781]

Good info ty

[@Hunter77567]

Acclimation system alone puts it above wow,eso, 14. Gw2 If a world doesnt feel alive and threatening it will never create immersion for the playerbase. Pantheon has developed systems perception, acclimation,climbing are beyond what other mmos even dare to try that it what makes pantheon great willingness to build a true world.

[@TheRealGreybark]

Game is in Alpha, and will be for a while. This newest round of players from Pledge or Steam will add even more life to the game. I also prefere buy to play games. The Free To Play games are normally not my crowd of people.

[@brianlove3369]

A necro in the old EQ was able to summon a corpse at higher lv locate corpse was a low level spell note sure why they got rid of that spell. Not sure they will have Fieng death spell but that would help split mobs and save your but too from getting killed most of the time. I saw in a old Patheon vid were the players were higher level the monk had Fieng death so maybe you can get the spell at like lv 16. Summon corpse was a life saver for a group deep in the dungeon and had a wipe that plus a cleric that could res ya

[@avinfun4781]

@@brianlove3369 am sure I've seen summon corpse or locate corpse mentioned in other videos, but I didn't get high enough to find out., I will be getting higher lvl in early access,. Thank you for the information

[@Egad]

Have been Alpha Testing AoC and definitely want to check this out as well.

[@avinfun4781]

This is slow paced and the quests are very vague and frustrating you also drop all gear and bags on death and no indication as to were you died lol ,but if you want to form parties and mob grind this is your game .

[@Pygmalion1.6]

@@avinfun4781 you do not drop gears Just bags

[@nagasakee]

1) Your bags are on your corpse that you leave at Level 5 and up. You don't lose them. 2) Make a LOC macro and click it before you release so you know right where your body is. 3) all classes are not melee. You were soloing and getting aggro much too soon, and many classes like Wizard, Summoner, Cleric, Shaman wont melee much at all. The game is designed for a group with a Tank, DPS, Healer and Support, and while you can solo, you won't advance as fast.

[@avinfun4781]

Great advice thanks

[@bobmalibaliyahmarley1551]

You have to keep in mind, this isn't a ''Go do quests to level up'' kind of game, like World of Warcraft. There is no ''quest grind'' in this game to get to max level, the way you primarily level up in this game is you find a group with a tank, healer, dps and support and you go to a ''camp'' and grind out elite mobs for experience. Quests aren't the main focus, they are ''side activities''.

[@GrimmRipper88]

U gotta learn how to kite a little. Sick your pet on the mob and keep your distance until the pet gets aggro. Then wait to attack until the pet seings a few times. Then dot, dd, etc. I think VR will eventually add a map and a corpse indicator when you die. Unless they're going the full EQ route. I remember dying in a mountain and hiring a Necro to summon my corpse to me. If a necro isnt available, I had to hire a ranger to track my corpse. So I'm guessing certain classes will be able to help u get your corpse back. In regards to sub, as of rn its just pay 40 for EA. When Pantheon gets closer to release in a year or 2, I can almost guarantee there will be a monthly sub. This will likely not be a f2p game when it officially launches.

[@avinfun4781]

Thank you for your advice

[@potsandjacks]

when you are deal before you releace type /loc and you'll get the location of your corpse.. easy

[@avinfun4781]

Thank you for your helpful advice

[@motive7475]

Your pet gets aggro once you get better gear for him. There is also a higher level skeleton that gets a taunt. It’s all about the journey and the increase in power as you go. No hero with ultimate power at level 1. Also you can do no melee at level 1 just wait for your skellies to get aggro. You actually have to play and learn the nuances of your class. Each class has a different learning curve

[@avinfun4781]

Very helpful thank you.

[@Egad]

If you want your pet (Minion) to keep aggro you have to let it do some damage and not drastically out damage it early on.

[@avinfun4781]

@@Egad thank you

[@avinfun4781]

hopefully helpful feedback

[@kingericsr]

You never played the original EQ huh? If you die, you run back and loot your corpse. Used to be called "corpse runs".

[@avinfun4781]

@@kingericsr no, opted for wow when I originally started with mmorpg games, which you don't lose anything on death just a run back

[@kingericsr]

@@avinfun4781 The original EQ had a ton of pain points in it for players. The current Live version of EQ has "fixed" most of those issues with quality of life improvements. Also, pretty much every class in EQ "melees" until they get higher level. At some point, your pet should learn "taunt" to pull mobs off you and tank. Then, you can sit back and DoT mobs. EQ was a fantastic game.. .but it was painful to play. No maps, no Quest Guides, etc. I think the Pantheon Devs are completely full of shit in their approach. People don't want that old school EQ (maybe a few do for nostalgia reasons). But, there are VERY good reasons why WoW kicked EQ and EQ2's asses to the curb. It was a game made for a very specific type of player. WoW was made for all players. If people want that nostalgic EQ feeling... then go play EQ. It is still up with 1000s of players online every day and new TLP servers coming out all the time. No need to make a copy/clone of EQ99....

[@brianreck5971]

Necro pet doesn’t taunt till level 12

[@little0ff]

The magic of Pantheon is that most things are better with a group, even leveling, whereas modern MMOs have made leveling a “solo questing in a shared world” experience and made grouping for dungeons a 20-30 minute silent race to the bosses.

[@Demolition2024]

This game is in early access development Dec 10? and won't be launched tell two years later.

[@avinfun4781]

They said 13th,and I expect actual release will depend on how that goes

[@bobmalibaliyahmarley1551]

World of Warcraft isn't an MMORPG anymore, it's a single player focused experience with multiplayer dungeon crawling features. It's not an RPG anymore either, it's a collectaton. WoW doesn't have any social interaction because the game is tailored around single player experiences now-a-days, you can even do dungeons alone together with NPCs. At this point, Blizzard's servers cannot even handle a whole bunch of people in the same area without lagging out, because the game isn't tailored for an MMO experience anymore under the hood.

[@AKSpitta01]

This is for us who love challenge buddy 😂. No mercy in pantheon. But this where the game becomes fun while playing and grouping with people and friends. Give it more time get groups. You will get hooked 🫡

[@avinfun]

Thank you .I like a challenge also,but it would be nice if the quests gave us more of a clue ,for example the heavy lift quests ,from the text, how would you figure out where to go to complete them other than exploring the world till you accidentally discover them and remember you have a quest for them.

[@AKSpitta01]

@ community. /ooc .. we all trying to figure it out as a big ol team . Quests are more of things your doing while your grinding and adventuring with guildies and friends. Again. Challenge a scavenger hunt if you will 😊. Although bigger quests will be added like epic quests that may take many people to help or weeks/months to complete. It’s a slow grind. Sit back make some friends and adventure through the world and don’t rush it 😊

[@nickshulz8551]

Is there a bard :)

[@avinfun4781]

I just tried the necromancer to try the game out

[@1Man7iot]

there will be bards. yes.

[@potsandjacks]

Bard is not in the game currnetly but will be added

[@Valdis63]

This games probably going to fail harder then they think😅 i understand it's ment to be like old school eq so the only people they are catering to us p99 players and p99 players probably aren't leaving p99 lol

[@avinfun4781]

I am currently trying core punk, at least that game tells you were the quest giver is to hand in, this game your totally blind

[@bobmalibaliyahmarley1551]

Tbf, this sounds like it either isn't your kind of game (knowing you are familiar with modern World of Warcraft), or that you are actually missing the point of what the game is actually attempting to achive. Alot of what you are ''complaining'' about is core to the gameplay itself. No map, no markers, no indications, no handholding... All of these things are to encourage SOCIAL INTERACTION, to speak to other people and share information with other people. Ask other people for direction, interact with other people.

[@avinfun4781]

@@bobmalibaliyahmarley1551 it's a culture shock coming from wow

[@bobmalibaliyahmarley1551]

@@avinfun4781 I can understand, just keep in mind this game isn't World of Warcraft, or even trying to replicate the ''MMO market'' that World of Warcraft has, I.E the modern MMORPG market. This game is made of the gameplay philosophies of old MMORPG games, where the ''game'' felt more like a world, rather than a game. This game is all about social interaction, and those things that might seem like an ''inconvenience'' in terms of gameplay, knowing you are familiar with modern WoW, are actual aspects that encourage people to talk to one another in the world.

[@avinfun4781]

@@bobmalibaliyahmarley1551 sounds interesting thank you for your detailed reply .I will try it in ea and see how it works out .

[@potsandjacks]

lol ahh... go get your equipment back...

[@danield-h1j]

pumpkin = pantheon

[@Ferngully2024]

Looks great but cant understand a word you are saying

[@stormk-1130]

Looks really boring lol.

[@avinfun]

It is better than it looks, but does need tweaks

[@williamlaprarie3007]

1998 called and wants its game back. This game is completely pointless. Old stale cartoons with stale and dead playstyle.

[@avinfun4781]

@@williamlaprarie3007 lol, it is better than it looks but still raw

[@warners2797]

have you played?

[@Taylorbabii]

Thats exactly what the player base wants. When games when actually challenging and required an ounce of teamwork to progress..

[@eboaz]

If you want something different, play something different. The graphics do not bother me at this point. People play Stardew Valley, Minecraft, and other games with far worse graphics and enjoy them. Some of us prefer games where you need to group rather than playing by yourself in a crowd of toons like WoW.

[@potsandjacks]

Litterly every game is "pointless"...