Top 20+ Pantheon Early Access Questions Answered!

[@SUPERchenille]

Lots of people in France, old eq players /1999-2000/ are waiting for pantheon to make us feel one more time the Everquest discovery-like era with Pantheon personnal touch.

[@MSaxton1]

Well you manage to sell me. The wife and I have played EQ since 1999, even as recently as last year on Mischief. Wasn't sure I wanted to dive into a new game because most have been a letdown in recent years but this really sounds like exploring the early days of EQ so I snagged us the Watcher's pledge.

[@jadeon77]

I sincerely hope you enjoy at as much as I have.

[@DraekosTV]

This video rocks. I've played the game on and off due to family stuff but when I can play, it's the only MMORPG that draws me in. Looking forward for EA

[@MaDmanex100]

Il see you ingame! Ive bought the watchers pledge. What class are you looking to play?

[@slandshark]

Great informative video! I backed this over 7 years ago and had a chance to play for an hour or two. Absolutely loved the experience and the community. It's got me excited for MMO's again, something I haven't said sine the early 2000's. Looking forward to enjoying a lot of Pantheon during EA and beyond.

[@TapTwoCounterspell]

When you backed it 7 years ago what was the expected release date?

[@slandshark]

@@TapTwoCounterspell I have no idea. I knew it was a small team trying to recapture the magic of the holy trinity/social style of group content in MMO's and it felt and looked a lot like Everquest, which is what I've spent many many years looking for. I'm happy they are getting more attention with EA, but I hope enough people both from my age (those that played MMO's in the late 90's) and enough newer games enjoy this type of MMO. This one needs to be played for many many years.

[@jamesnewman8011]

Loved it so far. Itching for the 13th to roll around. I really hope this thing takes off big. Ready to explore an new world.

[@silvermonster2598]

Super addicted to this game.. it is a ton of fun but takes time to delve into it .. try many classes till you find your jam!

[@jadeon77]

Totally agree!

[@SirSkeeve-y8f]

Great video! I am a big Asheron’s Call player and I have had this down on my list for awhile. Can’t wait to start streaming on Twitch come Dec 13! Hope to see you ingame!

[@jadeon77]

That's awesome, I am really excited for you. Get that stream going!

[@Yoofaloof]

Really looking forward to playing this MMO which hasn't got a Korean aesthetic.

[@KING_NIMROD]

For real I get tired of that. Wish theyd work on the animations though

[@CounterFleche]

I've been having an absolute blast playing it. It feels like finally coming home after years of wandering the MMO desert.

[@jadeon77]

@@CounterFleche I couldn't agree more.

[@AKSpitta01]

I feel the same way ! See you in terminus !

[@williamsmith8271]

I have to wait two years to avoid the character wipes but at least the game will be far more developed 🥲.

[@AKSpitta01]

@@williamsmith8271 bro the replay ability is still fun and now you have 3 huge different areas to start with that’s 3 wipe you could deal with easily 😊. Come join us in pantheon !? It’s so much fun !

[@jadeon77]

@williamsmith8271 character wipes just = modern tlp/classic servers to me. It's not everyone's cup of tea but I'd much rather be at the ground level impacti g the dev teams decision and helping to shape the direction of the game.

[@justinparker6117]

This game is the real deal

[@Nakari777]

Been loving the game so far.

[@jadeon77]

Samesies :)

[@Nakari777]

I love the idea of a player built cartography syatem

[@williamsmith8271]

Yeah, if they're going to include in-game maps they should definitely be via in-game creation and sale. I can just imagine people going to great lengths to find and purchase the layout of a dark and mysterious labyrinth!

[@joezar33]

Bro Timestamp, please . A 40+ minute video, curious to what player built cartography is ?

[@TapTwoCounterspell]

Sounds nice to talk about but that type of system is the definition of power creep and is a reason a ton of modern MMOs end up failing.

[@williamsmith8271]

@@TapTwoCounterspell As a person who prefers Permadeath in RPG's a realistic mechanism and added dimension to gameplay such as this would make a game more appealing to me. There may be nothing more disheartening to me then randomly encountering a enemy/enemies that being far more power overwhelm you quickly. I love little approaches such as social and environmental cues that allow you to roughly/finely decern areas that you should currently avoid and which are ripe for exploitation. As for reducing the lifespan of the game I doubt the mere existence of maps will prevent you from spending hundreds or thousands of hours at the game if you find it enjoyable.

[@BuzWeaver]

Thanks for the very clear and concise outline. I'm looking forward to the Early Access.

[@jadeon77]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Mr.Amazing-vx3li]

For anyone who hasn’t played, the game is great. It’s a win win, 40-50 bucks gets you the game, early access and builds the community/propels the development. Highly recommended

[@AKSpitta01]

This game is fantastic ! See you in terminus and great video bro! 😎

[@jadeon77]

Heard

[@jadeon77]

I'll be there

[@AKSpitta01]

@@jadeon77 yessir ! So hyped for EA ! I appreciate you taking the time to make videos like this showcasing this beautiful project . 🫡

[@TEHBRONX83]

STORY TIME.... many years ago I heard about pantheon and I was interested coming from txt based muds and playing EQ at launch, myself and bestie would wag school to come home at lunch and grind on EQ. Once I heard Brad was leading it and it would focus on bringing back the glory days of mmos I was like ok I'm in. I forget what version of the game I was looking it back than I think it was roughly 5-6 years ago now but I pledged a $1000 because I believed in the dream. A few years went by and once Brad passed away I really didn't follow the progress of the game anymore and I believed at the time the game would never come out. A few more years pass and I see Jappa building pantheon, I see the like 3rd or 4th graphic's change since the original kickstarter came out so I still didn't have high hopes. Because I was a higher tier pledge I could of accessed the game awhile back? I think... but I didn't... busy with life and it wasn't until around 2 weeks ago that I heard about early access starting so I figure why not! Jump in and see whats what. Well I'm actually so impressed with the game, so impressed with the team and Jappa keeping the dream alive... give the man props... I've played all classes past lvl 10, played as much as I could and I'm totally addicted to the game! ty VR

[@slandshark]

Hello fellow MUD user! I played MUDs for over 20 years, finally stopped about a couple years ago. I backed Pantheon about 7 years ago, didn't have any expectations of a release date, just know that I had been looking for a game like EQ since...well since EQ. I had a chance to play Pantheon a couple months ago for a couple hours and had a blast. I'm very excited to jump in on December 13th! Hoping the game has a very very long future for it. Glad you had a chance to try it as well, hope to see you in game some time (I always main a cleric).

[@YourGraveDigger83]

I played on Tallon Zek as a pally, I'm looking forwards to this game. Im ready! lol

[@t.s.adrian8785]

A dozen MMOs have crossed my keyboard since 1999. EQ, WoW, AOC, Aion, TOR...more and more. No game have I played that filled me with such fear as EQ. Moving through Lower Guk to join a group, watching my invis spell wearing off, knowing if the frogs see me, I am dead and the group cannot come to my help. Corpse run would be a nightmare! *OH THANK GOD THEY DIDN'T SEE ME!* The absolute terror of crossing Kithicor Forest at night. I still have PTSD. And making it back to my home city (Qeynos), and the *profound* feeling of relief. I made it. I'm safe. Why do devs not understand this is what we want? Sure, do a quest at level 5 and get a full epic set. Be one of 10,000 others with your flaming sword and armor of levitation. ...or... Plead with a raid to allow you to tag along. All you want is the NO DROP guts from the end boss dragon for your bard's epic weapon. You'll play your heart out. You won't ask for anything else. Please, please, please!

[@Jayjames6568]

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[@mikesmith-jv6fs]

Great video thank you, I'm off to make an Enchanter!

[@jadeon77]

Good luck!

[@kingofcoinjock]

Super fun class to play, that's the first thing I rolled.

[@drang1725]

@Jadeon77 Thank you for your content. I am an old EQ and WoW player. Ive been aware that Pantheon is being developed but I have not personally been following its progress or set backs. I tell you that so this makes sense. I found your content informative in a way that matters to me, the uninformed. I found the questions clear and logical. I enjoyed your answers and with respect, I do understand you are stating your opinions. I value those opinions because you are one who has obviously followed this game development for some time and have had your feet wet with actual gameplay! I appreciate you taking on this format of video and made things clear for me to understand. Mucho appreciations /bow

[@jadeon77]

@drang1725 you are 100% the target audience for me with this video so that is good to hear. Some people are going to love this game, some people aren't. Some people are going to white knight for it and some people are going to never give it a shot. I am not going to attempt to convince the haters there is something great here and I am doing my best to not hand-out cups of the kool-aid. I have been following this game since its inception. I have been a VIP backer for many years so I can 100% say there have been set backs and disappointments. Right now though, minus some recent itemization patches, its been really good. There are going to be more rough times but I am always going to do my best to give an honest evaluation of where the game is.

[@AKSpitta01]

@@drang1725 come join us ! I can’t stop logging in . Just think how fun this is going to be in a year . 😎

[@jonzuniga7638]

Thanks for this video. Answers a lot of the basic questions for people who know everquest and wow. Your details in your answers are well thought out. Maybe a video sort of like a tutorial of the classes and how they play for people who haven't played EQ/WoW might draw some new players of the genre in.

[@jadeon77]

It's in the works my friend just gotta find the time.

[@jonzuniga7638]

@jadeon77 awesome! I've seen some other class overview videos out there but hard to find ones that explain the different approaches between classes that participate in the same roles

[@kylebrett4125]

Thank you for the video. I will be buying the early access version. But it’s funny that this is an “early development game” given how long it’s been in development. I don’t mean that in a harsh way. Just made me chuckle when I heard it. Thank you again for this video.

[@19Nivea73]

Great video Jadeon - Thank you.

[@barin9998]

Impressive video and good summary of questions! Nice work. Time to level might be optimistic to my experience. But that's not a bad thing. Thanks for making this.

[@Keethpea]

Great vid. Wealth of knowledge here and an honest take on things. Should be a must watch for anyone but especially those new to Terminus.

[@jadeon77]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@AmyZonkers]

The simple answer to almost all of these questions: 'It's just like Everquest."

[@jadeon77]

You aren't wrong.

[@nagasakee]

Really great video, and yes you did a good job on it!

[@jadeon77]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

[@phillewis4833]

Outstanding, well explained and well presented video - thanks for putting together and helping to provide some proper insight, especially, for those that might be curious.

[@jadeon77]

Glad you found this helpful, hope to see you in Terminus!

[@torbenjensen6962]

I love this game. Great informative video, good work.

[@nickjordan8996]

So excited. Only Evercraft online has me as hyped.

[@TrexidTV]

Great video as always JD!

[@jadeon77]

Thank you brother, appreciate it!

[@duncanwallace7760]

You did a good job. I had a lot of questions ahead of the EA becoming available on Steam. Really looking forward to trying it out

[@jadeon77]

Glad I could help!

[@therivalmob2289]

Lots of information in this video, got my like and a comment for the algorithm. Cheers

[@jadeon77]

Appreciate it bud.

[@Pygmalion1.6]

Best Mmorpg for a while

[@Igorr1988s]

Great video, cant wait for the 13th :)

[@tumeden]

Tons of great info here, thanks for the video!

[@jadeon77]

Glad it was helpful!

[@NathanielB-hd1nn]

Great video! Thanks for the info :)

[@jadeon77]

@@NathanielB-hd1nn Absolutely!

[@yokohl6997]

Super informative- thank you!🙏 Hyped for EA

[@jadeon77]

Same here!

[@SeiyuRavensong]

Great video bro. answered alot. Im an old UO and Everquest player.

[@jadeon77]

Good to hear!

[@Flatline072]

excellent video, very comprehensive

[@jadeon77]

Glad you liked it!

[@Sagoda_protf]

Great video! Thanks for doing this!

[@jadeon77]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@williamsmith8271]

Just for the benefit of those who don't know(And those who do ) Everquest 3 is currently in the early stages of development. Though it may take 4+ years i'm still enthusiastic at the idea of returning to Norrath, and this time im sure the graphical quality will produce a very different reaction!

[@jadeon77]

Good luck with it. I hope they come through it would be very cool.

[@potsandjacks]

@@williamsmith8271 I anticipate it being 4-6 years

[@williamsmith8271]

@@potsandjacks Oh well, at least its in development

[@slandshark]

I'm sure EQ3 will turn out good, but they are kind of forced to chase the masses and can't make a niche game like Pantheon/Vision Realms is doing. So I expect EQ3 to be much more like modern MMO's where it's a singleplayer experience where other players just happen to be nearby. Even EQ2 leaned the direction pretty hard. And even now, EQ1 adopted 'companions', etc to make the game more singleplayer focused. What I am saying is that if you want the community focused MMO, Pantheon is what you want. I would not expect that from EQ3.

[@potsandjacks]

@ lol I’m not so sure

[@dwsonye]

Really wish they would implement a map. Embers Adrifts map would even work.

[@jadeon77]

This is a common statement, and the community is very divided over it. Some want it, some don't. I can see both sides. Thanks for your comment though!

[@feldont77]

Your video came out great!

[@jadeon77]

@@feldont77 Thank you very much!

[@Hunter77567]

As a player the zones are huge. These arent wow sized zones much bigger. As far as classes i tried shamen it was ok , tried paladin wasnt my thing. Then i tried direlord and fell in love with the class. Definitly try other classes you might be surprised like me what ypu will enjoy.

[@jadeon77]

@@Hunter77567 I have a race/class video coming out tomorrow:)

[@TapTwoCounterspell]

When talking about wiping and potentially multiple wipes is this a front to back wipe or a more risky back to front wipe?

[@jadeon77]

I'm thinking we're talking like side to side with a bit of dabbing. #DadsDontDab

[@vaxfreebud]

Irregardless isn’t a word. You’re looking for “Regardless”

[@alltidtratt8896]

Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more irregardless /ˌɪrɪˈɡɑːdləs/ adverbnon-standard adverb: irregardless regardless. "the photographer always says, irregardless of how his subjects are feeling, ‘Smile!’" Origin

[@jadeon77]

Actually it is a word, and it can be used interchangeably with regardless, but thanks for the comment!

[@lynchmob72]

There are definitely dragons. IYKYK

[@utewb4131]

awesome video, but my man "irregardless" is not a word

[@jadeon77]

Thank you brother! Also it actually is: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

[@AquaShibby3000]

Ok, so the supporter packages come with a 'buddy code' but do they get any of the benefits from the package as well?

[@jadeon77]

They do but that time has passed unless they've let them linger by mistake, you'd have to check the pledge shop.

[@AquaShibby3000]

@@jadeon77 Ok, thanks for answering, I see now that there will be a wipe in 1.0 and at this point I'll wait and see.

[@timhook8186]

Im still not fully convinced this game ever is fully developed. Its a niche game that maybe holds 10k concurrent players at a time. Look ive wanted an updated EQ for as long as the rest of you and i hope im wrong about this.

[@jadeon77]

Appreciate the feedback!

[@Hunter77567]

At this point anything not pat to win is going to keep a loyal basic playerbase. Pantheons not ue5 microtrans like the youth are obsessed with. Pantheon will hold alot of 25 year old and older playerbase that will love and be loyal to the game.

[@Harthlichfest]

My biggest question now that I have been playing for two months is there a way to make suggestions to the devs ? For example I tend to like playing the summoner and the clr. as the clr , I noticed it very hard to lock onto the pets. in the groups I form I tend to use the pet as an off tank, which means I need to heal it. A simple double tap of the F key would be nice. As a summoner, will we get a coth? I am in the discord, but I don’t see a way to interact with devs, shy of emailing directly.

[@jadeon77]

The discord server is where all feedback is processed.

[@Voldraxx-vx1]

You can ask questions directly to the lead developer Joppa on his twitch streams. He answers most of them as he builds out the game with his audience watching. No other game has been this transparent and open in it's development. Joppavash on twitch

[@potsandjacks]

hehe You got the mans version of the RBF

[@jadeon77]

@@potsandjacks #feelsbadman

[@chilidoghamsalad9952]

That’s pretty sick 50 bucks for two people to buy the game, I prefer the subscription model but only if the game is good enough to make people pay it.

[@jadeon77]

Oh I very much hope they move to subscription in 1.0.

[@leonardoe1977]

I didn't even bother to use the key they sent me, the direction of the game changed way to much from what originally made me interested in the project to begin with.

[@jadeon77]

Sorry to see you go, it's a fantastic game in a fantastic world. I do hope you find what you are looking for though!

[@slandshark]

I highly suggest taking the time to play it. If you were looking for an EQ like experience with some modern updates you will likely enjoy the game quite a bit.

[@leonardoe1977]

@@slandshark the EQ type experience was what turned me onto the game but honestly it was the dark fantasy art style that really sold me on it. with that gone Its a hard skip as I can still play EQ to get that type of experience.

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

I'm really hoping that the interdependency isn't required for leveling. Breaking through the deepest parts of dungeons that makes a lot of sense same with completing quests

[@TekkorGJC]

Good stuff man. -Tekk

[@jadeon77]

@TekkorGJC Thank you sir!

[@Yiladan]

Great video thank you!!

[@rudihoedl6506]

What Tank hast the highest Adventure skills in Dodge, Defender, Party ....i think the Warrior right? must have some advantage right?

[@jadeon77]

@rudihoedl6506 Hey there. Warrior has the best physical mitigation but not so much in the magic department, that's the domain of the dire lord. Paladin is the in between of the two. You can also checkout my latest video on races and classes here to see if it provides more info: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4LMZaaer6hrq6ssi=xzxMAdz7HwxFEL8_

[@rudihoedl6506]

Sorry, Parry, Defend. 😉Yes i played Pantheon short. Waiting now. I played EQ1 few years..at least a Game Like EQ1👍👏

[@andrewcullum7398]

Hell ya no map.

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

buddy code sold me. My wife would want to play, but dont want to spend $100 for the both of us

[@danielhenry6777]

are the dungeons more static camps like in EQ or do you try to work them through them?

[@jadeon77]

@danielhenry6777 a bit of both tbh.

[@danielhenry6777]

@@jadeon77 i mean i feel like maybe like bosses should be instanced and only allowed to be killed like once a week or once perday, so stuff does not get permacamped like in EQ

[@losbloontas]

​@danielhenry6777 theyre gonna have a system where you can camp certain areas and names, but there is also "technically" an end boss where you will need to either loot an item/kill a mob to trigger it to spawn for *only your group* or access to a door that *only your group can access* to then fight the boss with just your group without the worry of competition for it. It's not 100% clear how it will work, I'm sure it will be different for every dungeon but there will be a bit of both

[@beyondgreatness1861]

No map. I hate that shit. Welp that’s a deal breaker for me. Good video

[@Pygmalion1.6]

bye baby cryer

[@jadeon77]

Sorry to hear it, but I wish you the best in finding your next game of passion.

[@GameDeveloperPrim-Evil]

2 years bra , thats crazy...thats way long...someone is stalling...10 years in dev stage , then another 2 years (early access) thats nuts lol...

[@jadeon77]

There's actually a very solid timeline of documentation as to what's gone on over the past 10 years. Maybe I should do a video on that, could be interesting. Thanks for the comment.

[@artemisforce]

It took me about 3 hours to hit level 3 when I first played. Got lost, didn't know what I was doing at all. Kept dying to rats in the town

[@williamsmith8271]

I remember when I first played Everquest, I kept on interrupting my shock of frost spell by moving while casting. I was never so eager to resume playing a game after death!

[@AKSpitta01]

@@artemisforce that’s that challenge we have all been trying to find in an mmo . It’s finally here !

[@puppets1979]

@jadeon77 I get paid on the 4th, will the watcher's pledge still be available then?

[@jadeon77]

@@puppets1979 no it ends on the 1st

[@puppets1979]

@@jadeon77 well damn it. I guess that is what I get for being poor and living pay check to pay check.

[@slowstad]

Cypher approves!

[@yanna4473]

I will wait until the EA is completed in X number of years . I am allergic to wipe

[@jadeon77]

@@yanna4473 it's definitely not for everyone.

[@scotthorne4740]

Sold.

[@jadeon77]

See you there!

[@-The-Stranger-]

Wipes are the chief problem. Nobody is going to want to go to level 40 and test that content, if they think they'll be wiped after months of hard work. Rolling the servers back a few days, or even a week is fine, if something bad happens. Totally wiping the progress of the entire playerbase though is going to mentally defeat everyone.

[@jadeon77]

That's an interesting take. I don't know that I agree as we can reference current EQ TLP / WoW Classic server launches and see just how popular they are. Wipes at this point in pantheon are generally months after a start and give everyone a chance to revisit changes from a fresh point. Remember this is not headstart for the game. There will be a 1.0 wipe, these are focused testing wipes typical of any game in Steam Early Access; but I get where you are coming from.

[@Sagoda_protf]

As a backer who loves Pantheon, that is he chief reason I don't play as often. There is literally no point to earn anything at this moment knowing all the hours and hours of hard work will be for nought.

[@MicrogramHeathen]

I own the game and i won’t be playing it, it blows so far, Community sucks, overhyped, underdelivered, every other mmo ever, not going to last.. Thank god for path of exile 2 Everquest nostalgia is lying to yall

[@moforyguy6803]

​@@MicrogramHeathenPantheon is 40 dollars....poe 2 is 30....I know where I'm going. Pantheon is kinda embarrassing at this point

[@andrewcullum7398]

"Nobody" = you and your two friends

[@arthaxunleashed]

HYPE HYPE HYPE!

[@jadeon77]

I need more Kool-aid

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

Remove the GPS cursor from the map and you probably got the problem solved

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

Flair spells can be used to detect traps but also magically interact with maps. Consumables that help players find landmarks and other characteristics of navigation like distance from large body of water

[@drexiusofthefallen]

I absolutely hate the fact that they are probably going to do cosmetics, but if there is just no other way then what they need to do is they need have a monthly subscription option that is a significantly better deal than buying cosmetics without a sub. Basically what I am saying is that they need to make the percs of having a subscription so overwhelmingly better than playing without one that its a "no-brainer" to just buy a sub if you're gonna play the game. Very very dissapointed in this but it is what it is...

[@jadeon77]

I don't personally have an issue with cosmetics like PoE. I think it's a great way to support a developer beyond a base sub and can fit into both a buy to play and sub to play model. I get that many don't agree with it; but gotta keep the lights on.

[@drexiusofthefallen]

@jadeon77 hopefully it's not like PoE because in PoE there is absolutely nothing that looks good cosmetically other than the stuff you buy for real money... and also PoE is a free2play game. That would almost be the worst case scenario imo. Oh well.

[@jadeon77]

@drexiusofthefallen nah they already have some good looking armors in game right now. I 100% agree with you in the base poe textures lol they are dogwater.

[@BLACKFEATHERFITNESS]

Hopefully it’s better then shroud of the avatar which failed hard

[@jadeon77]

I was there for that too and yes this is much better.

[@danield-h1j]

Do healers use wisdom or int?

[@jadeon77]

Wisdom

[@danield-h1j]

@@jadeon77 Does spell rating effect healing or just dps? thx

[@ChewieGamez2]

For the Algorithm 👍

[@ligmaballsack]

I would like for you to talk about the fact that the game is Buy to Play with no subscription, and how they are going to make money(off cosmetics I presume) without ruining the entire point of showing off all of your hard work in earning gear. I see this as a horrible way to go.

[@jadeon77]

I do believe this is an important topic of conversation. While I don't have a problem with a cosmetic mtx store a la Path of Exile. I do not want the base models to look terrible to a point where you have to MTX to look decent. Currently that's not the case and I don't think it will be the case going forward. I do think they are giving base models their due. I can also fully see and I fully support them going back to a subscription model in the future, but they have to do what their business forecasts predict to offer the best outcomes for the game and the dev team.

[@ligmaballsack]

@@jadeon77 You are correct, Cosmetics make complete sense in a FtP model. I remember way way back hanging out in ECom showing off all my hard earned pixels to noobies, that feeling was glorious. There is no way they can work in cosmetics into a buy to play model in a game like this. It will completely ruin all of the hard work you put in to get the gear you have.

[@cutta43]

Tell me how this isnt Eq2 during the 04/05 launch with different lore and less fleshed out world? And don't get me wrong I loved eq2 at launch

[@jadeon77]

@cutta43 because EQ was made for a far more casual crowd than this is and had a significantly lower difficulty curve. I enjoyed EQ2 but it was far more akin to WoW than actual EQ. This game is EQs spiritual successor.

[@cutta43]

Id argue release eq2 was a very difficult game. U had corpse res. Most of the world was group oriented. Leveling was really slow. Class dynamics are the same here also. 6 people in a group. Most of og eq2 dungeon were open world with usually an instance boss area unlocked through questing....now later eq2 by first expac DOF it had alrdy gone a major update that made soloing really easy and just bloated the game and dos became king. Then they eventually made it so easy and u can solo everything but thats what happens when u get a good group centric game and the player base ages out of the zones and give little incentive to go back to them. Eq2 questing and open world dungeon design were awesome. Felt like a world not just a run from A to B ​@@jadeon77

[@slandshark]

@@cutta43 Have you played Pantheon yet? I played EQ 1 and EQ2 extensively (years), plus a couple hours of Pantheon. And Pantheon is nothing like EQ, its far more familiar with EQ1 in how it plays and feels. Like @jadeon77 said, EQ2 was definitely a casual game by comparison.

[@Valdis63]

i mean can we call 10 years "Very early development" lol

[@jadeon77]

@Valdis63 we can when you have had to reset the state of the game multiple times for various reasons. I don't think it's what anyone "Wants" to say but it is the truth of the situation.

[@JimJWalker]

This game is still being developed? It has been over 10 years now right? So we can expect it when....2035?

[@jadeon77]

I expect to see it again on December the 13th as I've already been playing it for 3 years but yea...

[@sinthrax]

I already tried the game. Bland and boring right now. I would rather go back to Super Mario. I will give it another go in another 7 years. Maybe by then they will have changed the grapics to pixell art to save money and speed up development. Godd video though. Concise, direct, and informative.

[@jadeon77]

Appreciate the feedback amigo. May I ask, were there particular graphics you really were turned off by, like say the deer model? What did you do during your time in Terminus?

[@zahhari3170]

Two more years. What. I was so hyped until this. I dont play any game that long.

[@Pygmalion1.6]

You will in Pantheon You won’t reach lvl max and do all content in 3 months, trust me

[@jadeon77]

#feelssadgeman

[@gchap6243]

I'd love to see a video of getting 12 in 2 hours lol... thatd be like full group from lvl 1 balls to the wall and maybe you get it but probably not.

[@jadeon77]

@@gchap6243 I'll see if we can get it done soon :)

[@gchap6243]

@jadeon77 I mean, I got 9 in maybe 3-4 hours, but it was with randoms, and I wasn't thinking of trying to go fast.

[@Kornchex]

I pledged and got a "your order has been confirmed" email with no further information. WTF?

[@Kornchex]

And then minutes later I got a license key emailed to me. Doh.

[@jadeon77]

Happens

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

Sounds like quests are completely pointless t and it's just best to grind. If it offers less money than the loot.. just do the loot. If the EXP isn't worth the time running....

[@jadeon77]

The quests aren't worthless it just not a theme park quest-hub focused world.

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

@jadeon77 I hear you and also not sure how they will avoid it. Dungeons are already that. Ive never had an mmo experience ever of " wow that was nice money!" after even saving the life of the 3rd richest dude in the city... it is just "here is 4 silver and that blood stain note you already picked up but now it functions as a turn in" Yes im butthurt, but I'd rather there be no Quest than any useless ones

[@Pygmalion1.6]

@@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube quests give you tools to mine , woodcutting etc.. very useful and you must have them if you want craft and harvest, trust me you need them !!! Also acclimatation items cooking pot to craft better food And 15 silvers quest… you can buy 2 , 16 slots banks !! So no Quests are not useless at all.

[@slandshark]

@@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube Which MMO's do you have experience with? Pantheon is a lot like the original Everquest where even a few copper can be a lot of money. I remember being poor basically all the time back when I played Everquest 1. I think quests are far more interesting when it's not just a bunch of kill quests for XP. Instead quests in EQ and Pantheon had more a of a purpose, you'd ask others to help you find a specific NPC that had a specific quest that gave a specific item that you'd need. Or a specific NPC that bought specific items you've collected from all the roaming combat, etc. This kind of quest system gives NPC's a purpose that lasts longer than the 1-off quests you typically get in other MMO's. Also knowledge of which NPC is offering what is helpful to other players, and it helps create a more social experience when you can share this knowledge. In WOW, etc NPC quests are basically forced since you need them to advance. In EQ and Pantheon it's optional, but makes them feel more interesting... Maybe hard to explain in a youtube comment.

[@VRIceblast]

Is that really the graphics for the current game? I thought they downgraded everything. This looks like the graphics from a couple of years go, before the downgrade.

[@jadeon77]

@VRIceblast The graphics are constantly being polished and updated but yes, a few years back they did step away from the more realistic style and towards a loose "stylized" version. Many of us, myself included, were not happy with this change but it has grown ok me and now fits quite well.

[@petemisc4291]

How many Streamers invested in this company/game?

[@jadeon77]

@petemisc4291 to my knowledge only Cohh has done a "true invrstment" type transaction but couldn't say tbh.

[@kaiz0099]

another point that players should keep in mind is that this game is backed by devs who are actively working on it. Its not an EA cash grab title

[@jadeon77]

100%

[@MzDragon-NY]

Will there be an in game bug report?

[@jadeon77]

I am not sure on that, as of now I don't think so on EA Launch but I know this has been highly requested.

[@eschree4563]

Will there be open (Unity/Nexus) mods available? If VR can not, then maybe 'kids these days' can assist with aesthetic - Many of my non 40+yr old/ non-EQ playing friends are having a tough time looking at this game - thanks for the great video Jadeon

[@reevesterling9500]

I'm sure there will be GUI mods and map mods against their will but I wouldn't hold my breath on anything fixing the disney graphics.

[@jadeon77]

I doubt you will see mod support anytime soon but model, texture, lighting and other art based updates have been occurring in every patch.

[@Sagoda_protf]

This is a terrible idea. Cheatingwise and aesthetically. It will ruin the game. Look at WoW's add-on meta. Needing add-on for an add-on for an add-on or else you are ruining everyone's chances, as well as whenever you open the game up API up like that it always leads to more cheating potential

[@eschree4563]

@@Sagoda_protf Personally, I think it's GREAT as is (I played EQ/WoW in the early aughts) and 100% agree - I was more curious on the stance - my younger friends who come from FF/ESO/GW are giving this a hard no, and they might would give it a 5min shake if was customizable - (eg; Skyrim with 1,500 mods, is an analogy I hear a lot) - I was not suggesting necessarily (and yes I realize the other game correlations I mention are apples to oranges)

[@gloriusxofficiel5973]

pvp in this game ? pliz answer

[@jadeon77]

Now no, in the future there are planned pvp servers.

[@moforyguy6803]

Poe 2 is 30 dollars.... Pantheon is 40....lol

[@jadeon77]

My PoE2 was free thankfully, and yeah two very different games with two very different target audiences. Happy to get to play both! Good luck out there exile!

[@t.s.adrian8785]

No maps! (Picture Edna throwing a wad of paper at your head.)

[@kaiz0099]

raids wont reach that size with a 500 player cap on each server

[@jadeon77]

I don't agree with this one but thanks for your thoughts on it!

[@kaiz0099]

@@jadeon77 I'm hoping to be wrong too ;)

[@Pygmalion1.6]

@@kaiz0099 raids are more like 2 groups of 6 players

[@777Godsgift777]

Why is the rating marked out?

[@jadeon77]

Not sure I am getting the reference.

[@777Godsgift777]

When you show the steam page what is the red line .now that I'm looking its not the ratng

[@jadeon77]

@777Godsgift777 oh that was me underlining the date I think lol.

[@zelasd3125]

I tried this game and man... if they'd only make it a bit less TEDIOUS, it could be decent. But this ridiculous death penalty, this terrible inventory management, no even basic map... It's like things are made tedious for sake of being tedious. I can live with it looking like something out of 2004, I can live with animations and characters looking terrible, I can even live with archaic combat with sitting on my ass regening all the time - but shit being tedious for the sake of it? No.

[@HankHill-st3jb]

you have Ashes of creation if you want you will have map, mini map, good graphisms, probably better inventory managment, no death penalty Perfect for you

[@zelasd3125]

​@@HankHill-st3jb I played it too, it's certainly better than Pantheon in many ways. It does have a death penalty, but much more reasonable. It's a shame, however, that it's PvP focused, that's just not my cup of tea. If only Pantheon would be less tedious, it could be my next MMO, but their outdated thinking unfortunately makes it a skip for me.

[@jadeon77]

Best of luck in whatever you find that scratches the itch.

[@HankHill-st3jb]

@@zelasd3125 you know that is still in dev ?!!! i guess not

[@zelasd3125]

@HankHill-st3jb that's not my problem, and neither a problem of the prospective customers. When they open up the shop, the customer reviews start coming in.

[@louemrick1609]

yeah sorry, theyve taken ten years to get this point. And game looks and feels every bit like an indie from 10 years ago. Good video , good info, but gonna be a hard pass. Also the higher end pledges list a 3 month sub as part of the rewards so its a buy, then sub game ( not always a bad thing, theres a reason the top games are sub based)

[@jadeon77]

@louemrick1609 it was a buy then sub game they have since changed their planned model but I do hope they go back to sub.

[@Maniak-e8b]

my only wish the game retains the original EQ feel and difficulty an not become diluted and idiot proof

[@jadeon77]

I feel that!

[@nickjordan7945]

Only 6 zones QQ

[@Pygmalion1.6]

AOC has not even 1 zone….

[@jadeon77]

6 glorious zones prior to the game launching yes.

[@MrCwhitt75]

Look im old mmo player. 50 yeats old and been playing pc games since commodore 64. I sincerely hope there is major change to this game when EA hits. As of right now i think this game is dogshit! Ive followed this game for a decade! I just do t see it being a hit. Hope im wrong but in its current state, its a snooze fest at best

[@jadeon77]

Apprecaite the feedback!