Why The Canadian Leopard 2A4M might be worth the price... - War Thunder

Is the new "TOP TIER PREMIUM" Leopard 2A4M actually worth it? Or is this just another War Thunder pay-to-skip gimmick? Let's find out all about Canada's Leopard 2 and the history of Leopard MBTs in the Great White North!
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[@gritzas_7]

Laser Rangefinder exists. PanzerPaw:I need no laser rangefinder

[@madcat3.0]

Yeah pretty sure he used to command a Leo 2 a while back, he normally runs an actual Leo sight and is crazy good with distance estimates

[@irGeorgeh]

Yeah the fact the maps are not that big and apfsds is so easy to estimate, its just experience and playing the game so much it becomes second nature, if you are lasing below 1k or so with APFSDS youre doing it wrong , Like i can just slap people across the map with the tiger 2 long 88 as played with that gun so much i dont think about the ranges anymore i just do it. Also the fact every map is a dogshit city map, 9.0 and above need 2x bigger maps that red desert... people just lack the skill and are lazy and want a world of tanks arcade type of game.

[@irGeorgeh]

​@@madcat3.0 i would say there are some similarities but shooting an actual tank nowadays the FCS fire control system does it all for you, you just aim at the centre of target, but when you are using your auxilary sight then things get abit cheeky, as you have to account for the tank you are looking at their speed plus your own speed, the direction they and you are going in, there is quite alot to consider , playing warthunder does help abit though aha.

[@wyk3548]

To use decals take off camo net

[@0NLY_IN_OHIO]

Fr

[@frankgeluk1441]

How?

[@wyk3548]

@@frankgeluk1441 it’s a modification

[@NorthCascades]

@@wyk3548 what?

[@CallMeGooses]

as a canadian i can confirm that our tanks runs on maple syrup and tim hortons

[@Luisvitoras]

good choice, went to canada twice, both time i got 3 kilos fatter just out of tim hortons

[@CallMeGooses]

@@Luisvitoras what made you think coming to Canada is a good idea

[@Luisvitoras]

@@CallMeGoosesi live in brazil, that explains why i wanna leave it

[@chezburgerhamburger]

maple syrup is great i can confirm

[@NorthCascades]

And Black Velvet!

[@goji-fk4jd]

I got the canadian leo in warthunder. I know people say its not worth it but i got it mainly to help me grind and because i am canadian i thought it would be cool to use a tank that my country uses I enjoy hull down sniping in the canadian leo as it is very good at it same with all/most leos I think. I also like rushing around the map and destroying anyone i can. I personally don’t think the speed is a issue but that is just my opinion.

[@funwithmagnus8570]

Flies a slow plane directly over the battlefield and gets shot down. While I cruise at mach 1.2 in the statosphere and pick off aa at will lol. SP needs to be raised drastically for aircraft imo.

[@Blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Exactly. He expected to be able to bomb people with impunity

[@matthewgill8332]

Your Canadian accent was brutal haha. I’m from alberta as well and we basically either sound like Americans or have letter Kenny accents and there’s no inbetween

[@dalekool9975]

Now we just need them to add the Leopard 2a6m. Though I doubt we will ever get that.

[@HopefulJoe03]

I absolutely loved Alberta, spent as much time in Calgary and Lethbridge as possible when deployed for training to BATUS. Avoided Med Hat where possible though…

[@ShadowDragon1848]

60 euros for a single ingame vehicle is still nuts, no matter if it´s by War Thunder or Wargaming. Yeah I know that they somehow have to earn money.

[@richardzheng231]

I like the composite sides because it can actually completely stop autocannon rounds with around 130mm of pen FLAT ON. You can have spaa or IFVs flank you and you just shrug off side shots like they do no damage. The only thing they can do is kill the engine

[@Mon-W]

Love the tank and the KE-W is not as bad as some people say. Should have the DM53 tho and hate that the frontal turret armor isn't modeled with its composite.

[@Mon-W]

If you read this I beg of you, go to the bug report section of this tank and press "I have the same bug".

[@othicx]

Its true though, the dev blog even said armour similar to the 2a7 but that is not what it has. I do like the tank though and do quite well in it, but a slightly better armour value would be appreciated

[@yazadkavarana28]

They said the armour package will provide protection similar to ones found on 2a7 series tanks…they removes the line stating it too from the dev blog…its just an 2a4 at 11.3 facing 11.7 cuz u have a good round and good thermals…

[@Captain_Waffles-k8f]

4:03 the fortnight death sound got me😂

[@nightwolf7194]

We use hockey pucks as training rounds

[@norske_ow3440]

13:35 I swear those little plates are god armor this patch

[@Juliussmoothie]

This tank and the m1a1 sep seem like the two hardest tanks to kill right now in 11.3

[@MayoaMan]

Just 2a4 that thinks it's a 2a7

[@nikolaisuterovich]

Only major difference is the lack of the L/55 gun, chassis and the composite screens on the lower and upper frontal plate, gun breach and turret face

[@lok777]

​@@nikolaisuterovich Pretty much the same tank............

[@nikolaisuterovich]

@@lok777 Shoulda been but Gaijin didn’t model it correctly compared to real life. In real life it got the composite screens as well as dm53 but in game we only get ke-w (which it never used)

[@lok777]

@@nikolaisuterovich I would have bought it if the armor was better, may as well just use the PL for free though.

[@J_J-Sm]

the way he says decal makes it sound like a currency💀

[@kiri0_]

If I make it into the army, I get to use this in real life as I’m going for tanker

[@SimonCarbonell-fc4pq]

DM-12A1 is regular HEAT-FS, try the HE round with the proxy fuse

[@t2mediumplayer47]

For that price I prefer to buy myself a 1:35 tank kit to build it myslef and I'm still saving some money :V

[@n1co2017]

i am kind of mad at gaijin because they screwed it up. first of all this thing should have the same armour as a 2A7, it should fire Dm53 not KE-W the camo netting irl reduces the thermal contrast to the surrounding terrain by around 50% from a regular tank tho for balancing purposes i understand why it wouldn't in game but yeah it sucks that they didn't stick this thing at least at the end of the British export line...

[@capybaracultofficial4992]

I'm a canadian and was very excited for this tank to come out, but $90 CAD is insane! I know war thunder vehicles are usually around that if not MORE, but still I think that's outrageous for Gaijin to make us pay nearly $100 for a virtual tank (plus premium time and 2500 GE) but still!

[@tacticalSpaghetti421t]

10:15 Well in low-middle BR where there is no radar/missile AA CAS is a problem. In high BR where that stuff is a thing, the AA is the problem. Both cases are annoying.

[@BSmitty-FSH]

It’s honestly more worth your money to talisman the 2a7v and pso, granted the sl multi is half of premium vehicles with talisman

[@TotallyNotAFox]

0:37 - Why is this man ranting about lids in german? (Deckel) XD - Joke aside, CAS is only a problem until you get a Gepard

[@DerKilianist]

And after you get out of gepard tier its a problem again XD

[@xdgamer0189]

i really hope we get a leclerc with camo netting for the french tier 7 premium

[@yazadkavarana28]

Dont buy it if you are thinking it has armour similar to 2a5,6,7 but at a lower br…it was advertised as having composite armour package which will provide almost similar protection to the ones found on 2a7 series tanks…due to this the tank will be able to bounce or survive hits from most kinetic and chemical warheads at its br…this whole line was removed from the dev blog and in game this tank armour performs nowhere near in compare to 2a7…so in all honesty its an 2a4 at 11.3 fighting 11.7 just cuz u have good thermals and good round

[@privite55]

hey twice yea no they buggered up big time advertising it but it is a good tank for mobile fighting just don't rely on its armor which i keep saying you never should at top tier ever it has a good round good bonuses and overall okay protection at loooong range but it wont save you buy it only if you like playing the 2a4 and want to fight like its a leo 1

[@Streaky100001]

Why do Gaijin insist on adding tanks for nations that aren't in the game, then dumping them on nations they don't belong too?

[@spades7227]

Balancing probably, I dunno, to be fair tho.. I dont want the British to have a Canadian Leopard together with their T-90 and Challengers (UK would have gotten it since other canadian vehicle like the Sherman anti air are also there)

[@Streaky100001]

@@spades7227 oh, I don't want the UK to have it either. Since Canada isn't in the game their equipment shouldn't be, unless it was legitimately used by a nation that is in. Same with others that aren't in. The Brits shouldn't have the Bhisma for example.

[@firefly9838]

@@Streaky100001 cry

[@firefly9838]

@@Streaky100001 cope

[@firefly9838]

@@Streaky100001 but don't seethe

[@Cod3nameHurricane]

The way you say decals from most ppl is deecal(the cal like 50 cal)

[@littletweeter1327]

only bad thing about this tank is the cages dont change color with the camo so it looks horrible

[@mb8317]

That is the craziest kpz 70 I've ever seen 😂

[@MJA-0330]

Shouldn't this Leopard be in the British Tech Tree since you know Canada is part of the British Commonwealth

[@privite55]

nope because GB had nothing to do with its procurement to canada and its country of origin is Germany so big fat nope to that bullshit exscuse

[@leonardo-m2524]

I actualy got the 2a7hu and my top tier grind so far is fighting 2a4 m and t80ue1

[@Mieze-hk4pe]

3:00 ist is supposed to look like that

[@Laundry-Sauce]

OdBawz thinks otherwise 😂

[@alexrobertson1472]

Another example of Gaijin hating Britain, the canadian line should be in the british tech tree...but then britain would get leopards and they dont want that.

[@ikkelolnl]

It has 10mm lower armor overall then the Leo 2PL, but it has the apfsds with 500+ mm pen. So is it worth it? Idk.

[@Proskilljg]

Re-upload?

[@RafanDaniswara]

Panzerpaw is your favorite tank is the leopard tank series?

[@raptorbread50]

You gotta remove the Slat armor it makes a world of difference

[@613guy]

What's that decal with the crown on the side at 2:40 ?

[@PanzerPaw]

That's the Lord Strathcona decal that comes with the tank if you buy it

[@denden8425]

Almost the same as the PSO kit with slat skirt

[@adriancoric1721]

the armour is non existent for that br so youll get ur ass whooped mostly. Just get the 10.3 2a4

[@goldgamercommenting2990]

Most modern day tanks are like one shot kill….. unless if your stalinium

[@adriancoric1721]

@@goldgamercommenting2990 but the difference in armour is day and night and the 2A4M is only a br away from top tier. So you'll always face tanks that pen you easily and have 2 times better armour

[@lok777]

@@adriancoric1721 Welcome to playing Germany.

[@Prowamfordihno]

@@adriancoric1721 it's perfectly usable at top tier

[@adriancoric1721]

@@Prowamfordihno well I could get any light tank with 400mm of pen and say it's perfectly usable at top tier. The thing is that you have no armour and your mobility is impaired by the additional armour. The 2A4 at 10.3 is a much better tank for its br than this thing and is cheaper.

[@frankgeluk1441]

How did you take of the camo????

[@OddElephantLTU]

Best looking leopard despite it being a 2a4.

[@45atanner]

It definitely is. I love it. Now the t80ue1 is overpriced as they didn't even try to make it look different from the t80u already in game 😂

[@YukonWolfRoberts]

we got leo 2 A4M A4MCAN 40 LEO 2A6

[@sxrr-01]

Why was it privated

[@PanzerPaw]

Processing issues. Had to reupload.

[@ma7moud848]

Can't you look at the new one from Denmark :D CV9035DK

[@M4_Soppi_2]

Ooooo Canada 🇨🇦

[@UnhingedCanadian]

Where in Alberta ya from bud? I’m Edmonton area.

[@PanzerPaw]

I was in Calgary a couple of years ago

[@drenchedcloth9502]

You should livestream

[@FatChannelCatfish-]

New event=LEAKS PS I'm happy that Your back! Panzer Paw!

[@sabagamer2222]

Panzerpaw can you try out the mobile version, some of us mobile players would like the gameplay😁

[@darkwater6416]

Day 3 of requesting a Colab between Fitzygames and PanzerPaw.

[@chronaque5975]

"might" ?

[@G-man_trucking]

Lol alberta it's nice in all I enjoy the hoodoos by drumheller but I prefer B.C my home, I love the mountains and stuff but it's cool to see some youtubers from Canada

[@K2keepontrucking]

You should call people hoser and use eh? A lot

[@JaydenYoum]

oh another Albert guy

[@Brendan200]

Im ignoring this tank im grinding pso

[@lok777]

I think I am just going to use the PSO as backup for the 2a7 as well. If the armor was legit on the 2a4m I would have probably bought it.

[@toddreaker2298]

$90 CDN. No thanks.

[@PANTHERplaysWT]

I just watched your video and you deleted it and made a new one😂

[@PANTHERplaysWT]

Is it because it’s quality?😂

[@KolbyYT]

hello

[@jackfagan4288]

How dare you call them decals??? Of course its pronounced decals. Idk what you meant by the other version of decals.

[@aoli7313]

How about we get more blowout games and more over priced premiums.

[@thegreattanker1566]

Absolutely broken if you know how to play it

[@zimouchen1172]

The armor is weak

[@Tusseboy]

Sweden 🇸🇪

[@IceHotMartin]

Hello! Why did you private the video???

[@PANTHERplaysWT]

Sup

[@viper_thunder-s8o]

harrroooo?

[@lebensmude1093]

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