Paragliding crash .Lockout on winch.threw a reserve parachute at the last moment.

did not follow the fact that the wing began to turn towards the forest and created a lockout during uncoupling from the towing vehicle.the wing immediately went into a spiral

[@lisizecha9759]

winch operator's core belief: "Never give up, never surrender"

[@Matt_Ashwell]

In my opinion: (I have never towed before so can't really speak) 1. He entered lockout while towing and the wing was unrecoverable, in his mind the only way to rectify this was by pulling excessive right brake. 2. He then let go of his right brake to release the tow, and the combination of the release of tow, the acceleration of the right wingtip due to him releasing it, the left weight shift, and the twisted left risers, sent him into a deep spiral very quickly. 3. Once he had entered the spiral (which was initially recoverable) his right hand was not on the brake due to releasing tow just before, and he fumbled to grab the right brake in time to exit the spiral. 4. Once he had grabbed the right brake, the glider was in a full spiral dive and would've taken too long to recover before hitting the ground. 5. He made the right call to throw the reserve when he did, and his quick descent rate allowed the reserve to open very quickly. If in doubt, throw the reserve!

[@hogey74]

I'm an aircraft pilot. The Cirrus line with their parachute had a string of fatal crashes when the chute wasn't pulled but could have saved everyone. Now there is training to reduce the chance that people will hesitate.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

I love you very much for that discourse. I'm a new pilot and I have to be towed into the air at the school. The instructor told everybody to keep it square. I had to go over the idea of you don't make any sense I have no idea what you're talkin about the truck is square when we launched and it's still square so what do you mean what is it I'm keeping square? He said that I should be looking at the last 30 ft of towline it will be roughly a straight line and it will be in front of me no matter how far it curves from a side win or anyting else and it behooves me to keep that square with the wing. I have seen very few problems with somebody flying straight at trim speed and weight shifting. People have been knocked unconscious from g-forces passed out in sky went through a cloud punished frostbitten. But the gods of fly at trim and don't put on the brakes landed this person gently enough they stayed alive. As a new pilot I don't have any delusions about my ability to make a bad mistake with the brakes and spiral into the ground for a hundred feet before I can blink my eyes. I consider the brakes as to be used for landing and everything else should be way shift pretty much until I can get some kind of feel for the problem.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

I'm still doing ground handling and I've been looking at this a lot and I have been able to determine a paraglider only flies straight after you start turning it starts dropping fast and dives and falls into the corner, if you are heavy on the way especially when you are flying straight you will fly the same glide angle as someone who's half your weight but when you turn the tilt Bank angle causes a downward force and if you're heavy and flying fast that Force ramps up pretty quick and it will dive into that spiral dive and be hard to get out.

[@resqman186]

1. Why is nobody tellin the pilot, that he is going in a dangerous lockout position ( more than 20 degrees Angle) ? 2. Why does the pilot give no feedback to the winch ,to pull less or Stop, so he can release?... Two persons were sleepy here, winch operator and the pilot

[@Mitrodont]

Cauze im still a rookie pilot..i did too many mistakes..yeah. There aren't persons on the ground who could say smth and help

[@resqman186]

@@Mitrodont i See...i Hope, you fly under supervision the next times...this could have been your Last flight Dude, it was damn close to death... I wish you the best, please fly Safe...

[@Mitrodont]

@@resqman186 thx a lot..it was good lesson for me.

[@nickolaymerkin248]

2) If you fight against your wing, you could have no opportunity to push-to-talk. I believe, it was absolutely lucky exit, in fact. As soon as he released his right brake to jerk the lock, the spiral dive began. So, the more height, the more chances to throw the reserve and to land onto trees. Otherwise he would eat ground.

[@Mitrodont]

@@nickolaymerkin248 вместо земли пришлось кору с деревьев жевать пока крыло снимали и деревья пилили😁это дурдом был.крыло с запаской кстати не пострадали.еще 1 везение

[@ParaglidingChronicles]

Looks like the tree saved u. Plant more trees guys

[@Mitrodont]

yes. the tree completely stopped the fall, and the reserve parachute slowed down the speed

[@michroz]

"Plant more trees guys" - AFAIK, they had to chop 2 or 3 trees instead to resque the equipment :)

[@Mitrodont]

@@michroz 😂😂😂😂

[@577buttfan]

If the reserve didnt open he might not be responding to your comments.

[@sdqsdq6274]

@@Mitrodont dont think the reserve did anything , the tree save you from some broken bones injury or even impale you , guess you got some luck that day

[@trendingkings7095]

Right brake handle got stuck in the riser, after releasing the tow line. Pilot recognized brake was stuck the only options with such little time is to throw reserve parachute. So amazing see a quick response save another life! Great job pilot!

[@henrih3080]

I'm glad you survived that crash!

[@gleitshrimp7676]

The only thing I can see is a lack of training and as a result unsureness followed by fear and giving up. You gave up my friend! That´s not an option! What makes me happy is that the vid is a year old and you are much better now... .. . 👍😉

[@sergeytihonov1424]

Что-то мне подсказывает, что пилот это ученик, с небольшим налётом. Сразу куча вопросов! 1. Куда смотрит оператор лебёдки? Почему не сбросил тягу, дабы не допустить локаута. 2. Почему выпускающий не остановил процесс затяжки? Он вообще есть? 3. Судя по видео крыло уводит влево, а триммеры (ну как я вижу из короткого попадания в кадр) одинаковые, значит на крыле завязка. Т.е. взлёт с завязкой не увидел ни ученик не инструктор? Вообщем не удачная попытка избавиться от ученика. Своевременная отцепка и запаска спасли, мой респект пилоту.

[@policeday7792]

да нет там завязки, про ветер боковой не слышал?

[@sergeytihonov1424]

@@policeday7792 Простите, положить трос затяжки не по ветру, мне в голову вообще не приходило. Пойду учиться...

[@policeday7792]

@@sergeytihonov1424 бля причём тут это

[@policeday7792]

@@sergeytihonov1424 ты клевантой не работал, а если работал то не той вообще

[@sergeytihonov1424]

@@policeday7792 Молодое дарование, вернитесь в школу, подучите грамматику, а потом раздавайте свои "сильномудрые" комментарии другим. На сим, сию высокоинтеллектуальную дискуссию заканчиваю.

[@thecrazybird]

I did not read ALL 187 comments, but so far no one seems to point out that from the very start, the shadow of the wing on the ground shows a huge deviation from "being on the line". The pilot and the winch operator should have seen that from before the video even starts, and it is a wonder what the ()#/&)(" they were thinking continuing the tow?!? Ofcourse it ended in lockout. The fact that "the wing turned towards the forest" was just the last part of the bad situation. The wing should have been pointed straight along the line from the start, which would be 30 degrees more to the right when the video starts. Anyway... glad you survived and lived to tell the tale 🙂

[@Mitrodont]

Thx!

[@safeflightppg196]

Tha was oneoftye first things saw, I was like uhhh???

[@samik83]

Oh shit, that was bad, didn't notice the shadow at all. From the pilots POV it looked like he was pointed in the right way but the wing was on a whole different heading.

[@SenorCrazylegs]

Great save, nobody hurt, lessons learned. Nice job!

[@lolitkowalcz]

Late decision on releasing from tow (could decide 5sec earlier). You should pull your tow-release handle WITHOUT throwing the brakes (22s). Because of that and wing position right wing side got sppeed and went to spiral. Good decision on throwing reserve, a lot of luck. Thanks for sharing!

[@Mitrodont]

Thx!

[@markmcgoveran6811]

Are you saying I can just keep my hands in the brake handles and pull the release with both hands? This might cause pitching and oscillation, but it would be a very symmetrical application of the brakes so it doesn't tend towards the spiral and rapid descent problem

[@lolitkowalcz]

@markmcgoveran6811 Definitely no, just put two handles in one hand and use free one to release from the tow.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

@@lolitkowalcz thanks for the tip I'm still in the ground handling stages and I'm trying to polish in a lot of habits in my mind before I get in the air. For my landings I figured it unbuckle my chest strap it 100 ft lean as far forward as I can hold as much are out as I can stick my arms out greed as much parasitic drag as I can. Flying in it trim speed as far as I can and at the last minute jam both breaks on full and flare and stop. I'm going to have a lot of space to land I'm going to do 100 ft above ground level start in a long straight approach with the hands up and parasitic drag-reducing the speed and the glide ratio. It will hit a stable point with the nose tipped down and my hands up to fly at trim speed while I weigh 250 shift to keep that Wing level and I don't think about anything else. When I'm listen to me I've got to jam on those brakes hard so I can't make any mistakes during the transition I wanted to be quick from flying to the wing is behind me stopping me. Does that sound like it will work for my first landing?

[@edtotman2952]

Lots of comments and suggestions already. Great job pulling the reserve when you did! The only thing I would add is to be more assertive to change direction when necessary, before things get out of hand.

[@peterbrunt7487]

That reserve did nothing (didn't even see it, it was still in it's bag, probably). The glider did the save. The minimum height a hand thrown reserve will work at is around 300ft, been proven by many (also, don't ask me how I know 🤣). He was just lucky it all worked out. Moral? If you're under instruction, & don't understand something, ASK, ffs!

[@Mitrodont]

@@edtotman2952 0.34 u mean===))))

[@edtotman2952]

@@Mitrodont Yes! I fixed it, thanks.

[@BariFPV]

Looks like a lockout and you had already started to stall and sink. Nice flight park, how long is the grass runway? Haven’t seen a lockout in a PG before but seen them in HG and that’s what it looked like to me.

[@Mitrodont]

Its little airfield in the middle of Estonia.the grass runway is smth about 2 km.

[@BariFPV]

@@Mitrodont that's a massive runway! The flight park I fly in mostly has a 3K feet tow road only :) and this looked massive that's why asked. Safe flying mate 👍

[@flightographist]

I'm a PG pilot and I have seen this before, lock out for sure, can't figure out how someone gets so far off line on tow.

[@ryandinan]

I was watching the shadow of the glider on the ground, which progressively became close to 90 degrees from the direction of tow. However, the pilot had deep right brake pulled the entire time too. I'm really not sure how the glider was pointed so far off axis with that much brake applied - it was like he was unable to steer it back on track.

[@Mitrodont]

everything is correct. already at the beginning of the start I had a strong roll to the left. I don’t know what happened and why I was pulled so strongly to the left.

[@lifeplayson]

I can also see at 27 secs your left brake lines is under the speed bar. Pre flight line checks. Also what is this wing you are flying? it has trimmers were the trimmers set properly before launching?

[@Mitrodont]

I use this wing in paramotor flights too.this is Sky country discovery 5.

[@davidwashington4282]

Your right brake was very strong

[@Voronkotya]

Митя - МО ЛО ДЕЦ! Всё как по учебнику сделал. И главное крепко держался за свободные концы!)

[@Mitrodont]

Митя😁

[@jameswagstaff1962]

I have never done this before, but I am guessing the problem is lack of practice disconnecting with the left hand

[@pawsNparachutes]

Good hands man. That was wild

[@AMJB100000000]

Wow great job pulling reserve! Lucky man I’m sure you’ll never put yourself in the same situation lol thanks for sharing

[@GeorgieWorgiey]

Glad you are OK!

[@Mitrodont]

Thx! The wing and reserve are ok with me😁😁no damages!

[@davidswanson5669]

Can anyone tell me, since I’ve never done this stuff, are trees the saving grace with any type of parachute-based crash, or are they more dangerous? Impaling is what I’d worry about most, but landing on flat ground seems more fatal.

[@Mitrodont]

in my case, the trees certainly softened my fall, I don’t know how much the trees would have fulfilled their role if I had fallen into them without a reserve parachute. Surprisingly, my wing and reserve parachute were not damaged. Although the entire load fell on the reserve parachute. the ground would obviously be more noticeable

[@rowill2968]

Thanks for sharing. Very generous so we can all learn. Well done for at least releasing before you were in a full dive but from the very start I see no head movement up and down. You need to be constantly checking your wing is perpendicular to the tow rope, so your head is always bobbing up and down the whole time, it only takes a few seconds for it to go wrong. From the fist second of this video we can see by the shadow that wing is already locked out and no amount of right break is going to fix it at this point. You should use a foot operated release so your hands can stay where they need to be which is on the controls. Well done for throwing the reserve :)

[@andrestoelwinder4129]

This does not look like a beginner wing if you look at aspect ratio. Shade on the ground and when spin starts.

[@Mitrodont]

Its En-B.aspect ratio 5.2

[@BoredFlyer]

Supposed to stay directly behind the tow winch. If you get to far to right or left you get locked out

[@Ripen3]

Holy shiit man. Glad youre OK.

[@greenhornpl9018]

It’s not only your fault mate. Winch operator should slow down when you go out of centre. If I may suggest something. You use to much brake. Short and gentle “pumps”, and weight shifting. I like to put one leg on winch line (relax mode on) so even when I’m looking up to check my glide position (always parallel) I fell every turn. Do you have a full video somewhere?

[@Mitrodont]

Yeapp..u can watch it in google drive drive.google.com/file/d/1jHoB0NOXoH6Mk697BZ-n0KOdRkb_ugRP/view?usp=drivesdk

[@kalbic]

Trimmers were pulled all the way in and that with some excessive brake input allowed the wing to stall and enter a spin. If he let out his trim decreasing the wing AOA he would have gained some forward speed and would have been able to recover.

[@aleksandr.binocular]

Реально захватывает. Я бы в жизни не смог бы так, да еще и видео записали...Вы супер смелый человек👋👋👋👋👋👋👋 Лайк, и подписка

[@Mitrodont]

Благодарю.ближе к лету я и по оптике буду маленькие обзоры делать.хотя она у меня не столь премиальная как у вас🤭😆

[@clausmvp]

Nice save right there! I don't know much about paragliding, I'm just a glider/plane pilot. In aircraft we usually apply oppsite rudder of the turn direction to exit the stall

[@urbanstrnisnik1655]

why paraglider went into spiral after tow cable release? i dont see any collapse or cravat?

[@Mitrodont]

after disconnecting from the winch, I accidentally pressed the left brake too hard.look at the shadow on the ground

[@sergeantsilly5239]

you pretty much owe your life to that reserve and tree combination

[@antonip1114]

But, the small red shoote seems to indicate that the wind was coming from the left, thus wtf he was drifting to the left as well? I really would like to see the left hand...

[@rudyhoffman1683]

It never happened to me to launch the SP. In my opinion it is vital to keep up a decent speed before landing, a stall can be fatal

[@markmcgoveran6811]

I'm playing heavy epsilon 9 wing. It's the biggest one they got it looks like a circus tent and looks like a row of Mick Jagger mouths goblin air. I believe flying at trim speed is the best possible thing you can do and the closer you are to the ground the better it is. If you've got the skills to swoop and do all the other stuff go ahead but for my money it's fly straight in as fast as it'll fly jam on them breaks and flares deep is a little flair and fast as it will flare. Keep the Wing level is the only thing to think about, and hit the transience state hard. If you try to put on the brakes gradually like a talented person you won't be able to keep the wing square because you don't know what you're doing. If you wait until the last second and do a hard jam flare you can't screw it up much you need to unbuckle your chest strap and lean as far forward as you can right before you do the approach. "Ground control to Major Tom your helmets dead something's wrong"that's how long it takes to spiral into the ground hard from 100 feet if you have both brakes halfway and let one off all the way all the sudden.

[@nickolaymerkin248]

Зато какой шикарный опыт! И с завязкой познакомился, и с локаутом, и с применением запаски. Как делать не надо и как делать надо, когда как не надо уже сделано.

[@Mitrodont]

Да..опыт точно хороший получился

[@valentinzakharov7288]

По моему он всё сделал как не надо и до и после как не надо, в этот раз повезло, крыло прямо перед землёй само вышло из штопора.

[@valentinzakharov7288]

Но наверное самое правильное в этой ситуации было просто отпустить клеванты, что он интуитивно видимо и сделал, что наверное ему жизнь спасло.

[@Mitrodont]

@@valentinzakharov7288 ну,когда запаску кидаеш.да.приходится кинуть клеванту)))

[@valentinzakharov7288]

@@Mitrodont не видел я там запаски, крыло падает, если на запаске летишь, а крыло было подгружено что его и спасло...но даже если он бросил запаску, то она точно не раскрылась.

[@JohnnyChonko]

Why were you so far off the center line? I just dont understand that

[@Mitrodont]

Me too..still doesnt find the reason

[@robertmout7240]

The shadow shows that the wing is continuously turning to the left despite the deep right brake input. As we cannot see the left brake or the lines to the canopy, it is hard to tell what is causing the left turn. Only around 00:27 we can see that the left brake line and speed system line appear tangled. It is also puzzling why the winch operator continues to pull while the wing is turning away from track. The pilot did the right thing by releasing and then throwing the reserve. Now the pilot will have to look for yet another school with a safe winch operation.

[@stangwara]

Good catch! The speed system line doesn't look like it has some tension, but it could be adding 10cm or so of permanent left brake, preventing the break line from going all the way up. Still, seems poor wing direction awarness & control had a role here too...

[@MrKbtor2]

I winch tow and sorry, but I think the winch operator should have released the pull pressure when he/she realized a situation was developing. But good on the pilot for making the right decision. On my very first launch the release mechanism got caught on my bootlace hook and wouldn't allow me to release. 1-2 seconds of horror, 1-2 seconds of denial and then 3-4 seconds working out the problem.

[@lobbyrobby]

I don't know anything about this but why not release that line way before he did?

[@patrickswitzer628]

Just a side note, if your brake handles are tangled just grab the brake line directly, above the pulley. works fine. Or the rear riser

[@safranpollen]

Good you survuved man !! you have not been in the line and clearly to much brakes, pilot faults one by one...

[@koek4539]

Well done!

[@gforce118118]

What is lockout? Sorry im learning

[@Mitrodont]

Read 2 comments below

[@DL-kc8fc]

A very rare video with a happy ending for teaching young tow pilots. Thanks for sharing. Every young pilot is taught that it is always necessary to follow the direction of flight so that the wing is always perpendicular to the towing rope with regard to the direction of the wind. Otherwise, there is a risk of a dragon-effect and a quick death. Why was it not possible to maintain a perpendicular direction to the tow rope? Because the wind was blowing from the left and the towed wing correctly pointed perpendicular to the wind, but the pilot chose the wrong (left) side of the dividing plane for towing. This resulted in a lateral drag force that did not agree with the wind direction and thus a limitation in the controllability of the wing. At take-off, the pilot should have adapted to the wind situation and quickly moved to the right side of the tow dividing plane. This could be fixed at the beginning of the video when the wing was still level. On the right side of the dividing drag plane, the pilot would be pulled safely in the correct direction because the drag force would act perpendicular to the wing, like the direction of the wind. It's a small miracle that the pilot survived because he falls very, very quickly from the towline (faster than the parachute can inflate). There should be service personnel with state exams on the ground who would have cut the young pilot off at the beginning of the video.

[@Mitrodont]

Thats correct!100% you right

[@CosmosChill7649]

In simple words, my friend?

[@blakeschlecht1983]

@@CosmosChill7649 the pilot didn't choose a good flight path the wind was not working in his favor

[@markmcgoveran6811]

@@blakeschlecht1983 thank you Captain obvious. Is there some way you could suggest something like stay square with the towline and ignore the truck? That last 30 ft of tow line in front of your wing is the direction you are being pulled. Stay square with that 30 ft in front of you. Reach down with both hands with a break in both hands to pull your release. That seems to be the simplest thing I could learn to do, and prevent these spirals

[@chiyo9014]

Why the captain obvious comment when he was just accurately answering someone elses question...... shhhhhhh@@markmcgoveran6811

[@MuckyWaters]

It always amazes me how quickly paragliders become uncontrollable, and how long it takes them to recover, if they are able to at all. As a lifelong hang glider pilot the last thing I want to do is end my days on Earth wrapped up in a tangle of string and nylon wishing I stuck to flying a REAL wing.

[@MuckyWaters]

Nice video by the way, I appretiate not having to sit to the 30+ minutes of the usual lead-up preamble video before getting to the significant event.

[@dennisshen4388]

1. He is too far left of the pull should be directly behind it. 2. He pulling too much right break.

[@crazypilot4017]

I know I’m crazy…but I an’t that crazy to do paragliding. Good recovery 👍

[@Rocky-zv1yk]

Hmm, you could see the problem from the shadow of the paraglider on the ground!

[@Jamesrm101]

I tow pretty often and 1. That guy was SUPER lucky 2. The instructor or whoever was towing him was SUPER incompetent 3. He was way off the tow line, he should have been looking up and down continuously from the start of the tow and only needed small movements to stay on the tow line 4. When that didnt work and he went two far off line either he should have released his tow line, or the vehicle should have stopped or the winch tension should have been taken all the way off, or all of the above 5. When none of those things happened there should have been a weak link that should have broken as soon as he locked out. So many layers of safety not used there. If you are a pilot and about to tow with someone that is not using a weak link and cant see you to be able to take the tension off the winch or stop the vehicle, then immediately say no ask for your money back walk away and report the instructor, because they are going to seriously maim or kill someone soon.

[@kABUSE1]

Also, I am 99% sure something is very wrong with the right brake line. He can't seem to be able to pull it. It is quite difficult to tell from the few frames where it is visible in the video, but I think it is entangled around itself. With this alone, the pilot should already not have been allowed to take off. I really liked the reserve-throw tho.

[@turkeyphant]

Pilot has no clue what they are doing. PG probably not the sport for them...

[@SteveWrightNZ]

Weightshift please.

[@IvanIvoMartinetti]

The tow operator was at fault as well. Towing should have been aborted somewhere around 10 seconds mark on the video.

[@stefantwotimes]

when do he threw the reserv!!!!

[@Mitrodont]

take a closer look at the video and the shadows on the trees

[@mohammadraza2167]

How? He was doing fine

[@TheRooster1972]

He was under tow a s entered a lockout… = bad…

[@TitusIV]

Actually it was pretty bad, you cna see his wing shadow is at 90 angle just before releasing , you'll do fine as long as you know how to control your glider 1 - He starts deviating to the left 2 - He accidently counters his right turn to correct this by leaning to the left in his harness 3 - He Decides to let go of the right break to release, this is the worse choice he could have made. You need to hold both breaks in order to dampen the wing 4 - From this, the release makes the wing dive and with his body weight leaning to the left and no break on the right side it creates a centrifugal force that initiates the spin. 5 - he keeps a little bit of break in his left break which keeps him spining 6 - fails to recover his right break and abandons trying to recover his wing. Another very important factor is that this guy is using a B wing, you don't give B wings to begginers. The only thing he did well was the release of his emergency chute, this guy doesn't need SIV training anymore :D !

[@marilurasonyi218]

It looks like the left brake handle is tangled in the left speed? Left risers look strange... difficult to see. 0.27 sec ....

[@Mitrodont]

Yeap.u right!

[@tommaso_dm6016]

in my opinion, from the image at 0.27 you can clearly see that he just lost the brake and the riser is absolutely normal.... the red line is an A and the orange on the right is just the end of the brake. How can be the speed so close to mailon?

[@marilurasonyi218]

@@tommaso_dm6016 sorry, maybe 0.25 or 0.26 sec....when you can see the left raisers

[@tommaso_dm6016]

@@marilurasonyi218 oh sorry i looked at the right one! you are right. However it seems just a simple spiral dive

[@ianclampin103]

For those of us that don't paraglide could someone explain what happened please, what's a lockout?

[@Mitrodont]

Lockout occurs when the flight path of the paraglider diverges from the towline force by 45o or more or if the glider rolls past 45o from level flight.

[@rudyhoffman1683]

How did that happen!

[@Mitrodont]

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[@rule1dontgosplat]

This is one of the reasons my instructor doesn’t do tow training.

[@Mitrodont]

Our Estonia is flat..we dont have mountains here..so thats the reason why we need to tow.but sometimes shitt happens..yeah

[@jimydoolittle3129]

Very , very late release 💥 this is a clear example of how not to tow 💥

[@Nashy76]

Must have a tangle left side

[@jeremieyirmeyahu3468]

So for what i understand you were able to pull the reserve just before impacting the ground !!!! 😱 close call .

[@Mitrodont]

Yeap..good reserve,opened very quickly😁

[@bernhardtochtermann1805]

lucky! Winch driver should have taken the traction away immediately. That would have made it much easier for the pilot to correct the Glider. Even with the glider at 90 degrees to the towing direction, no strain relief from winch drivers. Wrong pilot posture.

[@Mitrodont]

Yeap🤗🤗🤗

[@EvelcyclopS]

His left brake is also sticking through his risers.

[@huffdaddy3845]

You were very lucky. That could have been fatal.

[@Catpanl]

What happened? Lockout? The glider shadow was moving at 90 degrees to the tow line :)

[@Mitrodont]

Yeapp..lockout😁

[@nkronert]

@@Mitrodont so why didn't the person on the winch reduce power?

[@Mitrodont]

@@nkronert cauze didnt controll my flight

[@nkronert]

@@Mitrodont don't tell me the cable was fixed to the ground, not using a winch?

[@Mitrodont]

@@nkronert this is winch..winch is ok😇

[@TheChrisBreyShow]

Only had to let your left hand up a bit😂

[@tartaria936]

That right brake all the time.....

[@BaSiC47]

I understand that the situation is scary but letting the brakes go is not very clever. The spiral dive was easily avoidable with right brake input.

[@russellwilson5246]

paragliders do not lock out on tow..it is true that the roll coupling is taken away by line tension, but they can always be steered in yaw....he has left trimer pulled in right trimmer some what neutral. you can see this at 0.27 .....operating the brake with right hand by pulling brake toward his chest instead of down dident help and was not enough input to over come left trimmer input.....left hand in brake loop and holding onto riser caused left brake input whilst right hand not on brake helped the spiral after release along with left trimer input....in short the wing done what it was commanded to do via trimer and brake input....solution: fit risers with out trimers. change the pilots bad habit of steering by pulling brake toward chest. Pulling down beside the body is correct technique. Not in toward the body or out or forward or back. if left brake fully up and right brake correct input the pilot could have over come incorrect asymmetric trimmer setting. with these simple steps this pilot can continue in the sport in a safe way and no fear..

[@nickolaymerkin248]

Объяснение про ветер тут надуманное. Был бы снос ветром влево, ну и летел бы лицом в сторону троса, и со стабильным рысканьем вправо по отношению к земле. Проблема с запутанными стропами слева. Всю дорогу приходилось компенсировать правой клевантой, а как только отпустил её, чтобы дёрнуть отцепку, так сразу левый поворот и развился.

[@Mitrodont]

До момента отцепки левый разворот(поворот) развивался уже 20 секунд.я этот период ухода крыла профукал

[@nickolaymerkin248]

@@Mitrodont он развивался прямо с земли. Летать с правой клевантой, затянутой до ноги - это не поправка на ветер, это борьба с крылом

[@acrosebas]

The wing didn’t went into a spiral, it just turned 180 and then you kept pulling the brake

[@philsgreenice]

Building a winch is one thing... knowing how to tow is another. Everyone is talking about fixing the problem after it happened instead of the root cause which was the tow operator's way to handle the situation from the start. There was probably nothing wrong with the equipment on both ends of the line but rather the way the towing sequence was handled with safety measures in place and radio guidance which was non-existant it seems. This incident was 100% preventable kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYTafKuketSiick

[@gillgwad2485]

Un peu trop de frein, après le larguage faut tout lâcher ta main gauche et trop basse surtout que la commande gauche et libre...tu te sors bien👌

[@user-gn6zp6vu1z]

Когда что то идет не по плану. просто хватайся за свободные концы, сжимай их посильнее и крыло само все сделает за тебя)) Хорошо когда все хорошо заканчивается.. Ситуация капец конечно, самому страшно стало!

[@Mitrodont]

Ну на такой высоте уже пофиг за что было хвататься, когда запаску выкинул😁

[@cadz4me]

This is why I only fly with Qantas . . .

[@jetcarq6048]

ну вот, а я когда на такой штуке катался, думал самая безопасная хрень, а оно вон как, можно и навернуться

[@Mitrodont]

Можно)

[@Supez.]

Ну вот. После такого, я теперь не полечу. Страшно очень было. Мне.

[@TitusIV]

So avoidable in so many ways, such a shame. Why is this guys even flying a Discovery 5 SkyCountry... it's an En-B wing, not beginner friendly like an En-A wing.

[@BushcraftTexas]

Why did he lock out? Why couldn’t bring it back in line, did he not release? Why was he so hard in the left brake while giving hard right trying to bring it back (lucky he didn’t spin or stall on the line). Why did he release pulling hard left brake? And why does he not know how to weight shift nor get out of a light spiral? Why did he not give the left brake back slowly and bleed the turn off even using opposite weight shift and bleed the left bank off? Why was there zero instruction on the radio as he began to go off course into a lock out position? I remember my first tows on the ground and my SIV which was a boat tie to 5k… I get the harder into lock out the harder to get back straight, but he shoulda either got aggressive to get on track, or cut loose and take the sledder. He’s lucky he wasn’t hurt.

[@Mitrodont]

you have so many fair questions😁 actually i had a low quality flight school initially.most of the problems that happen on the video are initially my lack of preparation. the winch operator did not know that I was so inexperienced

[@BushcraftTexas]

@@Mitrodont man, glad you are ok!!! we winch to thermal and just have fun when I free fly, it definitely can be overwhelming the first few fir sure. just stunned me the ground guy wasn’t yelling instructions.

[@user-ie3fm9eg5w]

Что это от тебя так пахнет? Это запах героизма!😂

[@KyrellHD]

way too much brake. Try to have your hands up all the way and only steer with your bodyweight if possible. This is vital especially when you are getting towed...

[@Mitrodont]

Now i know that a can use my bodyweight to steer..before accident i didnt know about that😁😁

[@TheHienax]

All crossed.. need to be line with the vehicule the wind was way crossed. Disconnecting with tow load.. Dont have the controls in the hands? You are lucky to be alive..

[@ozone7]

This was SO avoidable! If you had just bothered to look at your glider, you would have seen it drift off to the left. WE can see it by the shadow it cast on the ground. But YOU should be looking at your glider all the time to make sure it is flying in the tow-direction. You know, the steering handles? So then, after you let it drift off to the left to such a degree it was no longer possible to correct while still under tow, it was still no big deal to continue flying after releasing! But it requires holding the steering handles!! Never have I seen something that small resulting in a tree landing simply by NOT BEING MANAGED AT ALL!

[@Mitrodont]

Thanks for comment🤗

[@bennydaby5367]

Never ever release your brakes when throwing the rescue. Use one hand for both brakes and then throw it with the other hand. eEpecially when low. Have you noticed how much the glider accelerates downwards when you release the brake for rescue throwing? Could have been crucial meters.

[@Mitrodont]

Agree.thx!

[@valentinzakharov7288]

Сдвиг проспал, клеванту потерял, сидел как на именинах, первый раз что ли?

[@CooperPlaysandVlogs]

gosh, thats lucky

[@Rickybobby1342]

That Reserve saved you

[@MrGoMario]

Don't touch the brake lines while on winch!!!!!!! Body-steer with MINIMAL brake input!!!! Your right brake was on your lap!!! Not only suicidal piloting but also poor gound crew for not stopping while you went off course...😮

[@patrickswitzer628]

In my experience towing, you need more brake than usual, not less. The expert tow techs always emphasize this point, since the normal inputs aren't enough to keep the wing in line

[@philsgreenice]

There are many clues as to why that was going to happen and could have easily be avoided. I have been towing Paragliders for thirty years. 1 / There was no radio commands I could hear in the video from the tow operator to guide the pilot. 2 / The tow operator's job is to keep an eye on the line tension and wing trajectory while talking to the pilot to make adjustments if needed. 3 / From get beginning of the video the wing was not aligned with the winch. The tow operator should have immediately released the line tension somewhat to reduce the wing's angle of attack while asking the pilot to brake right gently to re-align the wing upwind. Once done and only then, the line tension could have been gradually increased to resume towing. 4 / The pilot was constantly pulling on the right toggle trying to correct the wing trajectory. The tow operator should have spotted the left drift (pilot side) or right (tow operator's end of the line) and take immediate corrective action to slow the winch down while advising the pilot top bring the wing upwind gently by breaking right. 5 / Still no radio command can be heard nor line tension visibly decreased by 0:12. Things will quickly get worse from that point on. 6 / The glider's shadow is totally offset, meaning the wing is flying left. 0:15 7 / The drogue chute is flapping in the relative wind speed faster and faster as the glider at a greater angle in relation to the upwind direction. The wing accelerated left and its angle of attack steepened (beginning of the lockout). By then the tow operator should have brought the line tension down to zero which would have by itself forced the wing back to a normal flying angle but sill would not have fixed the flying direction but would have given a better chance for the pilot to make a right brake adjustment and pull the tow release bridle if needed afterward. The next issue to quickly resolve would have been the line still connected to the harness even without tension. That can become another major issue if the pilot turns downwind while still connected. The wing flies away from the winch eliminates the line slack which once gone will stop the glider in its tracks with a powerful backward yank on the harness. A nasty forward glider surge will follow as a result - the leading edge of the wing will point downward with the aircraft accelerating toward the ground. What is really bad is that while the wing surges toward the ground it creates more tension on the line and the more tension on the line the faster the wing will travel pointing down. 8 / Hard to see if the trimmers adjustment was affecting the wing ability to turn. The higher the angle of attack of the wing the harder it is to make corrections (same with Paramotor wings under full power). Again, the tow operator could have lessen the line tension to mitigate the situation and come back to default. 9 / The pilot could have taken both toggles in his left hand at the center of his chest behind the risers and pull the release bridle as soon as he felt the situation getting quickly worse. That would have likely save the day. A lock out is a tow operator's worse nightmare situation and to be avoided at all cost. It does not have to happen at all if all if a protocol is in place, a full flight plan debrief is conducted and procedures followed. Static or Pay-in towing as it was in this video, his a bit trickier to do than Pay-out systems when the winch moves away and the tow line getting longer as the pilot climbs. A preset but adjustable line tension can be dialed in before the vehicle moves forward. The system will automatically keep the line tension in the safe zone as the glider climbs. The tow operator should also have a device on him to sever the line in an emergency. If for whatever reason the tow line release bridle jams and does not release once the desired height is reached, the tow operator should know how to bring the pilot still connected to the line down by doing a series of "S" upwind turns to lower the wing as it flies back and forth in front of him before the final 90º turn upwind to a safe touchdown. Two other problems that could take place are: 1 / The pilot does not take both toggles in one hand exactly in front and center of his chest before pulling the bridle release - he will yank the release bridle handle with the other hand - the jerking made by the pull will sometimes force the pilot's hand holding both toggle to veer sideways a few inches and the wing will deviate sometimes sharply from it straight upwind trajectory. 2 / The tow line could after release, fall and get snagged onto the pilot's shoe as he/she is moving forward. The tow operator has to be really careful about that or the pilot will fly away most likely in a turn with the line wrapped over his boot. A radio command should immediately be sent to the pilot who sometimes does not even realize the line was hanging on his shoe. That should also be part of the pre-flight debrief because at time the wing may be way up in the sky and there is no way for the tow operator to see if the line is freed. One clue from the operator's side would be to see the drogue chute was deployed to keep tension on the line while it is rewound tightly on the spool. The pilot could travel over and area with obstacles (trees, bushes, fence, power lines, etc...) and the line could potentially snagged something thus creating a potentially dangerous situation. So, yes, there is a lot more to towing than rewinding a line with a pilot attached to the end of it. Payout system: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2nafGSeg5WkptE Have a great day!

[@Mitrodont]

thank you for your detailed and useful comment!

[@philsgreenice]

Most welcome!😃 @@Mitrodont

[@iamkian]

my dad says that this was a classic lockout. The winchman should have stopped pulling till the recovery was done, or he should have cut the cable. He told me that when he was an instructor they used "weak links" that would brake in situations like this.

[@PatrickHolowesko]

So... much.... brake..... 😳 You're getting towed not landing.....

[@alexandercaravitis8859]

Looks like you where braking too much the whole time. You should have used weight shift more to turn away from the forest.

[@Mitrodont]

Yeapp..now i know😁

[@ThisDJ808]

LUCKY

[@dmrusak]

Вообще не видно запаски. Она точно была?

[@Mitrodont]

Я же кидал её))))на 0.34 видно

[@dmrusak]

@@Mitrodont Тень на земле? У тебя квадратная? И раскрыться успела? А на какой секунде видео ты её дёрнул? Прости что много вопросов, очень интересно.

[@Mitrodont]

@@dmrusak на 31 секунде где то,там видно.раскрылась оч быстро.да квадратная sky country

[@dmrusak]

@@Mitrodont Ага, спасибо. Нашёл такой за 600€

[@user-yi4zz6up1i]

👍

[@r1ccx]

All ok 💩 штанишки немного намокли . Красавчик в общем.купол правильно

[@Mitrodont]

Чего им мокнуть то когда запаска под боком?))))

[@safeflightppg196]

From 32 to 33 seconds i thought he was dead.

[@Mitrodont]

Not today

[@sergeyogurtsov2869]

Зачем душил крыло на лебедке? Нас всегда учили - при затяжке руки вверху.

[@Mitrodont]

Так у меня изначально крен появился на старте,руки вверху это хреновая идея

[@user-mr2fc9mt8w]

Ничего не понятно, но очень интересно

[@ybliga]

Everyone said what a great job he did throwing the reserve except . . . . I don’t think he did!! He had both hands on the brakes - no time to even reach for the reserve before he was left dangling from the trees and even less time for the mythical reserve to deploy. I’ve watched it several times and no evidence of a reserve that I can see??? Look at the shadow on the ground - defo no reserve thrown - he had all but recovered from the spiral dive by the time he hit the trees!!

[@Mitrodont]

apparently a few times was not enough, look again

[@ybliga]

@@Mitrodont I watched his hands - they stayed welded to the risers and at the last moment before he hits the trees, you see one final shadow of the canopy against the ground - no shadow of a reserve anywhere. Give me the time stamp where you can see the reserve And I will concede that somehow he threw it but I’ve looked again and not a sniff of a reserve anywhere!

[@Mitrodont]

@@ybliga it doesn't really matter if you saw the reserve parachute or not. i am the author of this video and i was throwing the reserve parachute in this video

[@ybliga]

@@Mitrodont I take it back - I played it at 0.25x speed and I saw your hand come off the right brake for a period and then return to hold the risers. All happened too fast and even when very close to the ground, there was no reserve shadow - I stand corrected. Anyway - the lesson stands 1. Tow operators need to back right off/ guillotine when glider isn’t on path 2. Glider pilots need to stay alert and release in plenty of time so as to avoid the incident entirely 3. Throw the reserve early and don’t leave it too late Kudos to you for posting so that others can learn from your mistake and help stay safe. I flew hang gliders and broke my arm on a tow accident and so I know the risks

[@markmcgoveran6811]

@@Mitrodont you need to pursue a law degree or something and get out of flying. R Kelly was in a video and didn't really think what happened happened and he took another video and by golly it was r Kelly. If you made the video and you think the contents of the video don't rule you and the fact that you made the video you're probably not cut out for paragliding.

[@antistopham777]

по делам же летел да?

[@Mitrodont]

Да не деловой как то..

[@motolovepatrol6721]

frenlerin ne işe yaradığını, bir tarafın frenini aşağı indirirsen ya da aniden bırakırsan ne olur bilmeyen pilotun vinç kalkışı yapması çok ilginç