Paragon 2015 - Plup (Samus) Vs. PL MVG EMP | Mew2King (Sheik) SSBM Winners Semis - Melee

[@DreamJ2eaper]

"the better player usually wins the game" what is this caster john madden

[@IcedMalaChaiTea]

I think the only thing I don't like about smash videos is that you can pretty much tell who wins by how much more time is left.

[@thrasymachus5116]

+Malachai Davidson watch in fullscreen, don't move the mouse

[@Athesies]

Time bar dosent go away on the stupid iPad version :(

[@toonage531]

literally my thoughts every time i watch a smash video

[@DapuffStuff]

Malachai Davidson That's why you catch the livestream

[@jaiisaia3859]

never been a problem for me

[@randomdud]

8:33 Plup's expression is great after dat M2K read.

[@kasarrah1220]

17:49 does anyone hear "sweet ass bananas" in the background?

[@marvitian1471]

I think everybody did.

[@MrHitchslap]

I think he said Swedish bananas since leffen armada were up next..not sure about the bananas part tho lol

[@mikegiles9688]

literally read this as it was said in the vid lmao

[@pooppoop7433]

I still love m2k and when he wins, he is kind, congratulates his opponents and offers constructive criticism and tips. Its a shame most crowds cheer against him

[@Zhark159632]

Poop Poop lol it’s because he’s so good. Gotta root for the underdogs.

[@spencerstrickland1948]

VG BOOTCAMP BROKE MY ADBLOCK. GIMZ ALWAYZ WINZ

[@bakurasensei]

I love how M2K just immediately looked at Plup and said "FD" after game 2 lmao

[@Katalowins]

10:46 Jesus, Plup with the hyper wavedash just to show us he is technically on point. I have NEVER seen that in a tournament match.

[@ajporrasm]

Katalowins 15:20 doe

[@liamfoote7164]

Katalowins Wes used it back in the day, and actually used it as part of his game not just in between stocks flexing like Plup here.

[@bluemagic9417]

M2k is always a beast! Gotta give it to plup doe! :)

[@MysteriousWeasel]

Even though Plup has switched to focusing a lot on Shiek, his Samus is no slouch!

[@misterbee180]

It's a really good showing of how good m2k is. Mid series he realized that he should stop spot dodging and just never did it for the rest of the game. Plup then started getting some throws but kept trying to catch m2k dodging and as a result lost a ton of offensive opp. M2k adjusted. Plup didn't.

[@Zadamanim]

10:48 is those problems with the stream or is he doing samus glitches?

[@Tankmin]

+Zadamanim both, plup did a super wave dash and the stream messed up for a sec

[@Zadamanim]

Tankmin ah ok

[@guillaumegalienne6351]

I don't see some stream mess up :/ Just super wavedash interrupted by turn-away. Sheik comes up at normal speed on the death platform.

[@Wrench-007]

ᏆhᎪᏆ's jusᏆ Ꭺ sᎪmus ᏆᏒᎥᏟᏦ

[@urallnoobs8943]

17:30 that league of legends in the background

[@cjcskittlez]

Is it weird I don't pick a guy to root for?

[@EarthLordCJ]

It is not.

[@wills992]

EarthLordCJ Yes it is, because Plup is a sweet player

[@DarkLeviathan8]

CJ Skittlez It is, except in a case where it's Leffen Vs Hbox I guess

[@MrNioMoon]

+CJ Skittlez It's not weird at all. It's something that the smash community takes too seriously, thus creating and spreading negativity.

[@WTFate]

Ugh I wanted plup to beat him so fucking bad. too bad

[@Fire-Manz]

IKR! Especially with my favorite character xD

[@xavierhenry397]

What did me mew2king say to plup after?

[@R1zzo]

you know a moves good when it makes the STREAM glitch lol

[@TeddyPicker191]

What did plup get hit by at 8:22?

[@yeerk]

+TeddyPicker191 sheik's neutral B. needles

[@Gotmilk0112]

+yeerkyjerky42 I thought needles could only go straight forward? It looks like he threw them diagonally downward.

[@yeerk]

+Gotmilk0112 from the air they go diagonally down. from the ground they go forward.

[@chinyerechukwuani1065]

why cant smash 4 be like this?

[@OuterRem]

#Sakurai

[@MarioMario6298]

God forbid to help other players .

[@chinyerechukwuani1065]

MarioMario6298 why is sakurai making smash 4 more like brawl instead of this? It makes no sense why cant please everybody instead of just pleasing 10 year olds

[@xXOldCampXx]

Chinyere Chukwuani So you think everyone above the age of 10 is going to like this playstyle? There are way more people playing smash casually! The competetive smash scene isn´t everybody. smash 4 is actually fine imo, could be a bit faster and the removal of infinite air dodging would be great though

[@OuterRem]

Anyone can enjoy melee, some just choose to hate it instead, purely based on what people they will never meet are doing hundreds of miles away. Whenever I sit down and read what these people write, it's often completely psychotic.

[@kevrywhere]

8:27 Kreygasm

[@pooolish334]

Its funny how a needle can go through a Fucking Missile!!

[@raymariopokenic1561]

there were 2 commentators: TKBreezy, D1 later and the crowd

[@rocketchris853]

10:47 ... Was that a hyper wavedash? How do you do that?

[@IAmtheBallrus]

+Chrisby 101 (Rocket Chris) its called a super wave dash look it up,

[@NegaPanda64]

+Chrisby 101 (Rocket Chris) Let out a bomb with Samus. The very last frame before you hit the ground in your ball, flick the control stick in the opposite direction that you want to go. The VERY NEXT frame (This is why it's not easy to do), you have to flick the control stick in the other direction. The quickest back-and-forth movement of the control stick that the game will register. It's a 2-frame input, and if you'll notice, Plup did it 4 times in just this set. What a guy.

[@sorenlily2280]

Pardon my ignorance, but can someone please explain what "tilt" refers to?

[@MuteLung]

+Stuart Smith it refers to the strong attacks that you do by tilting the control stick not quite enough for a smash attack.

[@50andURnotLOLOLOL]

Damn that first game was so intense.

[@NatronicsMA]

First off, screw you guys in the comments always spoiling the ending before I even get invested in the video. (Yes I know it's my fault. I need to stop reading comments at the beginning.) But second, the thing I love and respect about M2K is that it doesn't get in his head when he's down. He's never afraid to lose stocks. His end game is picking up on the strategies of his opponents, and when he does, he capitalizes. It's beautiful to watch. Sure I always root for the underdog, but damn do I respect how M2K plays.

[@handicapitation3250]

If you already know it's your fault, why mention it? And then you precede to give more spoilers. LMAO But I do agree with your points about M2K. That's what separates the top 5 from everybody else. Being a top level player is so much more than just being good at the game. You have to master your own mind as well. Plup's body language shows what truly happened.

[@theoreticallyinsane5]

Oh how naiive you are...I'm betting you hadn't watched Grand Finals when commenting this.

[@notamage131]

M2k pretty often just gives up when down 3 stocks. so.

[@theoreticallyinsane5]

Ctrl13 It wasn't just that, though. He got tournament jitters really hard in Grand Finals, and it showed. I actually think it was the smartest thing to go for the Puff ditto because that's just what he has to do to play optimally: Not take the game seriously. Still, being there live, I was literally on the floor laughing when I saw Grand Finals Game 3. It was actually a joke.

[@poooooooooop3322]

Ive seen M2K give up quite a few times. And you already mentioned its your fault by reading the comments beforehand. WE GOT A NOOB HERE.

[@phantomsai2861]

literally every time the crowd screams when plup hits m2k. Very annoying, i understand why there are many players which use headphones

[@MeisterGaming64]

Guys, I think it's time we rewrote this matchup to 55-45 Sheik or even. :)

[@myrkflinn4331]

They are slow in here? Like on my leven right now, what's going on? Weren't they advanced yet or were they going for a different strategy? I dont see as much wave dashes and such, interesting

[@myrkflinn4331]

well logically I guess cos I play with samus and sheik too now (floaty and speed) and I noticed their combos and tactics cant reach as much as with fox for example, but they are more effective in my opinion

[@gbrv1336]

I'm not good and kinda new to this game, just to john at my comment...but seriously at 1:30 I had to watch again the scene cause that shot was invisible for me didn't even saw the animation XD. This game sometimes is so quick I can't even understand what's happening. Oh yeah and also grammar nazy I know I know.

[@birilman]

Hahaha! Yeah, didn't even see*. "didn't already puts the sentence on past, you don't have to write the verb on past. About the game, yeah that happened to me in the beggining but once you start playing.. it opens your eyes

[@TheCanon66]

Is this why he quit Samus?

[@m3rry_g0ing]

+TheCanon66 idt he quit samus, he still plays him sometimes. Most if not all pro players are very good at multiple characters for different match ups. Except for Leffen who seems to only play fox (but I've heard good things about some of his other characters) and HBox who plays only jiggly. Armada: Fox & Peach, Mango: Fox, Falco, PPMD: Marth, Faclo, M2K: Shiek, Marth,

[@genevaconventionsviolator3994]

+Kevin Vo and m2k also plays fox

[@kabutox0wnage]

damn plup you hella good, so many mistakes and still had it this close, otherwise it would've been curtains for m2k

[@cross25011990]

i fucking love the american or mixed up crowd. They are the definition of hype!!!

[@DarkLava2007]

Man I wish I knew what Mew2kIng was saying after the match. Anyone read lips?

[@GamerSouls7]

DarkLava2007 It's very hard to read his lips. As someone who does every day, I thought I could try to figure it out. I could only pick out a few words like at the beginning "a little trick for FD…" and the end, where he said “it’s very bad because once you get to battlefield, he’ll keep doing it.” I realize out of context this means nothing, but maybe someone who's better at lip reading than I am could use this to figure the rest out. My guesses in some places is at the beginning he might be talking about rushing something, and a little later talking about a throw and side b working 30% of the time. Maybe he's talking about predicting habits and how to counter them?

[@MrThaumaturgical]

8:34 Plup's face

[@TheGameTechnician]

Between chozox and plup this was an amazing tournament for samus

[@carlossahagun5242]

Plup best Samus I've seen other than hugs

[@rogerramirez5477]

Plup is better and personally I think Duck is too.

[@Brian-rp7dj]

Plup and Duck are definitely better than HugS

[@kirjian]

Gimr's face brought me here

[@shaneking2804]

That first game was a heart breaker! Sheik is the easiest character in the game going up against Samus. Mad props to Plup.

[@genevaconventionsviolator3994]

as a sheik main i can say that gimping samus is fucking impossible

[@solismax65]

+Alex Ceceña I mean she's the easiest yeah but it's still m2k

[@genevaconventionsviolator3994]

+max solis (AnEye4AnEye) rettact my statement, sheik is braindead easy.just throw needles andthe samus is dead

[@normanmorris6841]

um.... is this guy speaking English?

[@Vextos]

8:33 LMFAO

[@michxel9552]

M2k or zero who win

[@Eclipseoraw]

M2K is awesome.

[@MrShawnApplegate]

9:06 Peanut Butter? Wtf.

[@NeostormXLMAX]

damn samus got nerfed soo bad in smash 4 T)T

[@luceve1626]

Sheik vs. 100x spotdodge

[@Kudosute]

How to play Samus... Spam spot dodge...

[@Kudosute]

I just watched this guy do this the entire match.

[@Kudosute]

Millions of people on the internet and I get the one guy without a sense of humor. OK, guy. Whatever you say.

[@Kudosute]

I never said it "was" a joke. Chill out, guy. Talk about generic KZbinrs. Jumping to conclusions and can't let things go. Prime example here.

[@Kudosute]

"lol" set on high is a good sign of it. The troll mechanic of the century nowadays. In no way did I try to provoke laughter so your definition of joke is far afield. But regardless, I'm done with you. Reply if you want to but it won't be read. At least by me. Good day, sir.

[@CorsairJoshua]

Gadrick Knight Ha! By that logic: How to play Shiek... Spam grab+down throw+forward air

[@twitchrareswedishki11errabbit]

8.29

[@adambrown1188]

game 1 tho T__T

[@tsmacks9]

he suck for losing that first match. that's what he get for playing around.

[@josealvara6658]

He wasn't playin around he was trying to get a read for the kill. He did that twice but mewtwos reaction for a stand off is way to fast

[@Fire-Manz]

Samus is so much slower in smash 4 sadly :[

[@albertomolina645]

Melee and smash 4 are completely different games in terms of movement, mechanics, and basically everything else.

[@lucillelunavt7722]

Plup goes from best Samus to an alright Sheik. It's a shame that he didn't like playing her as much anymore

[@tylercasea]

ShawnumanGaming Plup's Sheik is really good.

[@reckyt6367]

Lucille to the Moon this comment aged poorly

[@clem5419]

@@reckyt6367 lol his comment was stupid the day it was written

[@StaviKay]

SWEDISH BANANA!

[@Naru4Real]

2nd

[@Quake2815]

lol first actually

[@TheCrunchLog]

1st