2017 AUDI S4 DRIVING POV/REVIEW // THE PERFECT DAILY DRIVER?

[@Account1746]

Goated car, insurance would’ve killed me so went for the 252 2.0 A4 myself need to get it remapped now so won’t be far off the s4 stock

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

i used to own a 252 A5 stage 1 and it was almost as quick as a stock s5. A stage 1 map transforms those cars, just make sure you get the gearbox mapped as well.

[@mazalex2556]

Nice bro, I went for the BMW equivalent 330i as the 340i insurance would've killed me haha.

[@golubkovacevic370]

@@ParagonCarsLondonwhy should you remap transmission for only stage 1?? That’s dumbest thing I heared, you probably work for some tuning house 😂

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

@@golubkovacevic370 You get clutch slip if you don’t. Stage 1 TCU map increases the clamping pressure so the greabox can deal with the additional torque.

[@lukeskywalker1666]

@@mazalex2556the b58 engine in the 340i is different gravy in terms of performance it’s night and day

[@voiha]

I was just looking into A4 or S4 B9 for purchasing and here you are with the fresh upload :D gonna enjoy this one, thank you!

[@wdbaudio]

Another great review as usual Tom! This or the B9 A5/S5 are my absolute favourite daily dream cars. Maybe if car prices come down to sensible levels again I'll pick one up next

[@jackoboy333]

I love the layout of your videos, so easy to watch from start to finish.

[@rickigoode8536]

I have this car. I was debating what to upgrade it with down the line, but haven't found anything that looks good, drives good, but can be comfortable.

[@TeeRMN]

Great vid as always! Cheers

[@SpkTrue7]

Nice review.That engine note.Brilliant.

[@edwinvalero666]

I had a B8.5 black edtion, no problems whatsoever, perfect daily driver, could do literally everything, ultra practical and maintainance wasnt stupid either. Only downside was outdated infotainment screen and kept accidentally pressing the nav button😂

[@hschick]

Lucky - my B8.5 A5 just had a fuel pump malfunction ($2.7k fix) + timing cover oil leak ($2k) only at 75k miles

[@murlocmerc]

would you choose this or an audi RS3? I'm between them both, curious which would be more expensive to own longterm.

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

RS3 just for the unique engine. RS3 will also be more expensive to maintain but well worth it.

[@mommaduck79]

I’m having such a difficult time deciding between this and a TTS, especially because they’re both such different cars. The TTS is lighter, smaller, more nimble, and more mechanically simple. Whereas the S4 is more refined, has a proper and more playful Quattro drivetrain, is far more practical, is more modern, and is far more mature/sensible (whilst still having the superior sex appeal!). The S4 is the better car, but it’s also more expensive (in every single aspect) - whereas the TTS is just a better recipe for outright speed and agility over everything else (even if it’s potentially less fun and playful because of it). It’s such a hard decision!! The weight reductions Audi have been able to accomplish to get this S4 to such a low weight for an AWD V6 saloon in 2023 is it’s saving grace - and it is what makes me think that the S4 is what I will ultimately end up getting (which makes sense considering that it’s ‘far more car’ for the money). Not to mention that you can actually power-slide it and get it to rotate with the throttle😁! Did i just make up my mind by writing this comment? Lol

[@psychobread1252]

S4 all day long

[@Shaggy12321]

The S4 is a nice car tbf, but with the M340i on the market, it does seem a bit obsolete... the M340i being faster, comfier, more fuel efficient, and cheaper is just a done deal imo

[@cheefkeef6359]

it is cheaper, but add xdrive to the beamer and your spending 50k

[@lukeskywalker1666]

@@cheefkeef6359rear wheel drive way more fun

[@Illu-is1qb]

The M340i is not at all comfier. Backseats are cramped, not enough cup holders, bumpy ride and Violent acceleration, slow seat heating. Rented both for about a month each, performance wise the M340i is superior but I have too say comfort wise the S4 takes it

[@akj2387]

7:35, when sending it round a roundabout, do you check for police cars? Or would they not really be bothered with that.

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

Police don’t care about stuff like that.

[@derekwait9372]

I currently have an A4 B8 TDI sport quattro remapped to 240bhp. Great car, and there's lots of punch, but I will be buying a S4 next year. The new diesel version sounds interesting

[@jubjub13483]

how do you compare this to the M3? I imagine the M3 will be more fun but maybe not as comfortable or refined?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

The M3 is a completely different animal. The S4 is like a slightly more refined bmw 340i. M3 is far more capable, especially as a track car.

[@lukeskywalker1666]

@@ParagonCarsLondonthe 340i is faster then this Audi mate and the 140i would be faster then both as power to weight ratio

[@louisbrown3128]

Which lanes are they, I recognise them?

[@rybackracing8075]

Love these in Avant form but the potential rocker arm issue (£4k bill if caught early!) puts me right off unfortunately.

[@zeroyon4562]

How does the previous gen with the supercharger and DSG compare?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

This is fundamentally better, however, the B8/8.5 does have its own charm. The noise of the supercharger and quick shifts from the dsg are pretty cool.

[@12tribes61]

No heads up display?

[@12tribes61]

The undertaking 💀

[@paulgreen758]

I’m late here but these cars are incredibly hard to drive in the snow in fact dangerous, I’ve got a S5 RS3 and AMG 43 but when it snows I use my 56 plate Suzuki Jeep not fast but gets me there and back in style but I do live in the highlands

[@tv321123]

No they are not. You sound like you have A/S or summer tires on, or you just don't really know how to drive. A S4/5 specifically is unbeatable by all but ground clearance in the snow with it's rear bias AWD.

[@paulgreen758]

@@tv321123it’s more the fear of someone sideswiping me, but I don’t use winter tyres, no real need for a dozen cold or snow days a year, so I use the old banger, I agree the clearance is low in the S models, I had no fear in my first Audi a 1.9td that would plough through anything wish I’d kept it

[@tv321123]

@@paulgreen758 Oh! This is making more sense. It sounds like you're in the UK then?going by the concerned about sideswiping and the weather. Here in the great white of NA where roads are a lot wider; a S4/5 is almost unstoppable in the snow till it gets ground clearance out (with proper tires). The S4/5 with the optional tq vectoring diff is especially fun. But the same goes for most in the class, a 3 series, IS, C class ect AWD derivatives are all pretty unstoppable till they get round clearances out. The rear bias AWD gives you independent control of the front and the back of the car.

[@alexpetty1817]

Can we see a review on a bmw 545e

[@lloydgriffiths1847]

can’t wait until you guys get an M340i xDrive in stock to compare with this

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

the M340i XDrive is quite a bit quicker than this, actually closer to the RS4 than S4.

[@Conzyy]

Aren’t these supercharged? I wanted to hear the supercharge whine!!!

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

only the older ones had a supercharger. The newer B9 model has a turbo

[@comeonman7423]

Do you prefer this over the s3?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

@@comeonman7423 yeah deffo

[@comeonman7423]

@@ParagonCarsLondon thanks love the content by the way!

[@dxnwxir1542]

Why do you reset the mpg and then rag the car?

[@redemptionx2918]

On the steering wheel it has ok button the left

[@redemptionx2918]

I misread that comment completely 😂😂

[@spoonfed7724]

This is perfect with a stage 1

[@brentbouwer]

Really enjoyed your review. When you were driving it did you find an annoying throttle lag whilst in town? I came from a 435D which pretty much felt instantaneous when you put your foot down, with the S4 I find myself having to drive it in S+Dynamic to get a remotely responsive drive, and it isn't turbo lag, pretty annoying as they both have a ZF box. Had a similar issue in my 2015 Golf 7 R too which I remedied with a pedalbox, but the S4 using a digital pedal couldn't be fixed with a pedalbox. Would be interested to hear your thoughts as you drive so many vehicles. Thanks!

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

BMW are just really good at gearbox mapping so even though it’s the same gearbox the BMW will feel more responsive. I believe XHP are looking at tuning the gearboxes for audi’s if they haven’t done so already so i’d keep an eye on that.

[@Ball_Chat_FC]

Almost got one of these but it felt completely underwhelming and slow compared to the M140i let alone the M340i!

[@lukeskywalker1666]

That’s true plus they weigh he’ll lot more then 140i, I got stage 2+ m140i approx (490) bhp it would beat this Audi in reverse even if the 140i was stock.

[@lexman8678]

​@lukeskywalker1666 what a load of bullshit I have a stock b8.5 s4 with a Throttle Controller and smoked a tuned m140i on the motorway so you don't know sweet fuck all

[@lexman8678]

I have driven both and own an s4 b8.5 and the m140i felt like a gutless wonder and the handling was rubbish 🗑

[@t8506]

Is it better than a 335d x-drive?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

The BMW is more fun but the Audi sounds a lot nicer and has a nicer interior. Hard to say if one's better than the other though.

[@Etonnantnon]

do u prefer to drive this one or s4 avant ? which one understeer the more ?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

ironically the avant actually understeers a bit less as it has more weight over the back, i'd always pick an avant/touring over the saloon as i love an estate.

[@Etonnantnon]

@@ParagonCarsLondon good anwer i can guess becoz it is logic and about fun driving i imagine even a A 4 avant 2.0 Liter 45 TFSI is less fun than 430 D or i F32 or 330 iG20 . thanks to your answer

[@dalehopkins90]

Great review, I’d be interested in what feels quicker to drive between this and the golf r?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

this feels quicker especially at higher speeds.

[@joshyt46]

Another brilliant vid, just figuring out if I should get the 2017/18 s3 (high spec) or save up some more for an s4, could I get your opinion please? I’m struggling to make my mind up

[@edwinvalero666]

​@joshtinkler8191 Tbh they are both really good. I had 2015 S4 and also 2017 S3, both as good as eachother, S4 will need more juice of course and S3 Is smaller but just flip a coin😂

[@joshyt46]

@@edwinvalero666 haha okey thank you, just looked and it’s nearly an extra grand for the insurance on an s4

[@edwinvalero666]

@joshtinkler8191 you can fiddle with insurance, like blag amount of cars in your household, the dates etc, I had mine insured for 1600

[@Marko-hr4rj]

This is RWD car with Torsen

[@X1Stormyy]

Hell ye

[@Birmingham_racing]

To be perfect it would need to be an estate

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

i like your thinking haha.

[@mirsand1397]

How can a leon cupra 2019 do a 0-60 in 3.88 sec its front whell drive hahahahahah u got than wrong

[@Birmingham_racing]

Awd estate version

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

It’s 30-70 not 0-60

[@mirsand1397]

​@@ParagonCarsLondonoops

[@mirsand1397]

​@@Birmingham_racingther is a copra 4x drive ?

[@Birmingham_racing]

@@mirsand1397yeah the st version estate

[@Paul-ui5ih]

This is a pretty bad review considering you have no complaints about the interior of this car. Anyone who had the experience to drive in one of these on a bumpy road knows how noisy it is in the interior because auf the bad build quality.

[@jimmymcgoo8641]

What are you on about you FOOL Bad build quality 😂 wtf

[@Xtremerzzz]

It's not a vauxhaull 😂

[@B58Kizy]

340i better daily

[@kfh2577]

This is better value for money