Paramo Gore-Tex eVent - What Makes Them Effective Waterproofs | Membrane vs Nikwax Analogy

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Outdoors Inspiration

Outdoors Inspiration

3 жыл бұрын

Outdoors Inspiration, Outdoor Essentials - Shamus McCaffery, shares his views on waterproofs for the walker and backpacker. He explains how breathable membranes work alongside the Paramo Nikwax Analogy. With nearly four decades of wild camping experience, he gives his advice on being a responsible wild camper while accompanied by ever faithful canine companion, Petra the Dartmoor German Shepherd.

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@stevewood5631
@stevewood5631 3 жыл бұрын
You sir are quickly becoming the most knowledgeable and comprehensive source of valuable information on all things outdoors.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Very kind, Steve 😊 I don't know about 'knowledgeable' - I just share some things, about the stuff that I've got, in the places that I go 🐶👍 But thank you all the same 😊
@JW-jc4vi
@JW-jc4vi Жыл бұрын
I have used Paramo for years,. One time the Paramo analogy jacket was beginning to wet through and I was getting wet (Paramo 3rd element jacket). Really heavy driving rain. I put an extra large Paramo Furea smock over my Paramo analogy jacket and it made all the difference. I got warm and dried out. I was comfortable for the rest of the walk. Last year I tried out a new pair of membrane overtrousers instead of my Paramo analogy trousers. I got completely soaked through with sweat. I hadn't used membrane waterproofs for many years having moved over to Paramo in the 1990s after three gtex jackets failed. They would always fail within the guarantee and I would end up sending them back. I find Parmo much more comfortable. Sometimes on the odd occasion, I might get damp but I am always comfortable. I have used Buffalo clothing in the past as well and find it is more important to be comfortable rather than dry.
@philparkinson462
@philparkinson462 7 ай бұрын
Best video I've seen in some time on many levels.. thanks.
@alangauld6079
@alangauld6079 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanations. I already knew most of it but still good to hear your explanation.
@TOMHEANEY100
@TOMHEANEY100 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Shamus and Petra. Fantastic that you shoot your films in the outdoors. Great explanations and demos of how it all works. Good tip on the use and conjunction with a base layer.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom 😊👍🐶
@samchallis448
@samchallis448 2 жыл бұрын
What a GREAT teacher. Johnny Ball for the 2020s.
@thewelshnomad7094
@thewelshnomad7094 3 жыл бұрын
Another top quality vid Pal 👏🏻 Find I always learn something new from you, the attention to detail and the amount of knowledge you have is second to none! Look forward to the next one as always! 🙂👍🏻
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 That's much appreciated 😊👍🐶
@markrose3347
@markrose3347 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Loved the history too.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark, much appreciated 👍😊🐶
@kenkoskela3357
@kenkoskela3357 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video …. thanks !
@TheMooseman316
@TheMooseman316 3 жыл бұрын
another simple understanding lesson from the Dartmoor guru!! great video as always Shamus atb wmm 👍👌
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Moose 😊👍🐶
@Martin-id4xp
@Martin-id4xp 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at the marbles. Brilliant explanations 👍
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin, Marbles... what a game to play 😊👍🐶
@jamiepryce2623
@jamiepryce2623 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Really good detailed in depth review and good testing demonstrations.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊🐶👍
@thecolubio
@thecolubio Жыл бұрын
Very well said and presented!!!
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, much appreciated 😊
@RobsAdventures
@RobsAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Seamus. I’ve got a Paramo Velez and I love it. Keep up the good work
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob 😊 The Velez is a great piece of kit, mine was absolutely abused and lasted 12 years or so 👍😊🐶
@colacat12
@colacat12 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shamus for another great video, your explanation of waterproof Membrane was very understandable and simplistic, All the best Kevin.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin 😊 Simple works best for me 😂👍😊
@frankcavill2206
@frankcavill2206 2 жыл бұрын
Cracking vid Shamus, I've been contemplating buying a Paramo Halcon jacket and this has helped me make my decision, also like the additional info about Dartmoor.
@ianspicer1529
@ianspicer1529 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this over the weekend - that's it, I've subscribed! Thanks Shamus for putting all of this so succinctly. I'm a big fan of the hardshell/layers and Paramo systems, I have and use both. I tend to use the Paramo for more 'low level' outdoors work and the hardshell for mountainous environments. So very well and entertainingly put as ever; thank you.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian 😊 Thank you very much 👍🐶😊
@UK_Outdoors.
@UK_Outdoors. 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative
@paf210767
@paf210767 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video Shamus, and what an easy explanation to perhaps a techno subject. Learnt some good tips on your previous layering (base, mid, top clothing) and now some more really good gen on this one. I love the Tors and living in Tavistock I'm lucky to get out and about. But so glad I found your channel! Have a great weekend :) Cheers Pete
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Pete 😊 have a lovely weekend 👍🐶😊
@doraldeddy1836
@doraldeddy1836 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed and learned a lot from this film. Will use as a reference for next purchase(s), along with the “Layering” film. Much appreciated. Best wishes from Cornwall.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching 😊 Much appreciated 🐶👍😊
@MrSTAdventures
@MrSTAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shamus, I now how a much better understanding of how Gore Tex works....now it’s time to find the correct jackets and waterproof trousers for Kim and myself. Thanks again for sharing the knowledge 😊👍🏻
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Shane 😊 Good luck with finding the right kit - there's a lot to choose from 👍😊🐶
@bernardscott1783
@bernardscott1783 3 жыл бұрын
Total honesty pal as we’ve just got 2 new paramo.s her a adina and me a alta 3 cheers buddy and I’ve definitely subscribed 👍👍
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bernard 😊 much appreciated 😊👍🐶
@cairnscrow8713
@cairnscrow8713 3 жыл бұрын
I've had and still use all the time a Paramo Valez lightweight, brilliant all year with the right layers under, good explanatory review
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I just think the Velez design is fantastic 😊👍🐶
@DavidWilliams-tk3dy
@DavidWilliams-tk3dy 5 ай бұрын
Super video. I too, have worn both Paramo and Goretex for many years so was pretty familiar with the content. However, the quality of your explanation, the filming and Petra, of course, were all superb. Thank you.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 4 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻 🐶😊
@stevenbunney3621
@stevenbunney3621 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏another great video, well explained. Shared to some FB groups👍👍
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steven 😊 much appreciated 👍🐶😊
@LundysWildcampBushcraft
@LundysWildcampBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
The more I watch your channel the more I like it there is a few channels out there that do video's on kit and haven't even used it before I found this video very interesting and educational thanks for that atvb jimmy 😎😎
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jimmy 😊 I appreciate that 👍 I have no problem with expressing my opinion on something on first sight, but I couldn't call it a review 🐶😊👍
@Harrycowlton
@Harrycowlton 3 жыл бұрын
Very good explanations! I love paramo, especially this time of year! Also works excellently when working hard and sweating going up to 6500m!
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Paramo feels nice too 😊👍🐶
@jamesdewar9757
@jamesdewar9757 Ай бұрын
Great video
@zerotraceadventure
@zerotraceadventure 3 жыл бұрын
Great video shamus Extremely informative I learn something new every time I watch Keep it coming my friend top content
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 praise indeed 👍🐶😊
@zerotraceadventure
@zerotraceadventure 3 жыл бұрын
Well deserved Shamus the history is a bonus
@cammy484
@cammy484 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, I also like how you keep switching up the angles & visuals. Keeps it entertaining. Subbed from me!
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 much appreciated 😊👍🐶
@ashleydarby3652
@ashleydarby3652 2 жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed because I enjoyed the content, find your explanation great, and love your GSD
@LilyAlways
@LilyAlways 3 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating and such useful information. Makes a lot of sense to test how the burner will deal with low gas, coupled with high wind. The outdoor scenario we’ve probably all had at one time 😀. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. Your practical and down-to-earth approach approach is just the ticket. Plus, I loved the PetraCam in the rain - she looked lovely. Please kmaking the videos. 👏👏👏👏❤️
@LilyAlways
@LilyAlways 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, should say please keep making the videos 😀
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊👍🐶
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation Fantastic demo of Paramo sat under a torrential waterfall and remained dry. I’ve got the same Stanley flask from 1983, the cup has a knobbly dent in the base. Where it flew out of a side window whilst going round the roundabout at the bottom of Park Lane London. The one with Boudicca on. I drove round stopped at retrieved it. Great Flask. Great gear
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael - we used the same flasks in Antarctica for years 👍 I had to buy one when I returned here 😊
@grantswheelstohills
@grantswheelstohills 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Shamus, thanks for vlog. I have had gortex jackets over the years and 15 years ago bought.my first Paramo jacket which I still have and use in the winter as it has a double storm flap. I have recently bought via their second Ebay shop a lighter jacket for both myself and my Boss (in doors). We do reproof our stuff and that is the key as you mentioned. I do get warm sometimes so I use a cheap craghopper jacket in the summer and proof that as well it does the job. They do have a high eco ethos which might be why they wanted to try and resolve the issue with a reproof. If anyone wants to upgrade you can send your old jacket in and get money off a new one and they will try and recycle the old garment. The recycling I really like. Thanks again for your films and may bump into you two one day !
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 the company does have a very good ethical manufacturing and environmental ethos 👍 🐶😊
@wildmountainman1
@wildmountainman1 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent information Shamus. You certainly know your stuff! Love you sitting in the waterfall. Lol
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you WMM - it was certainly refreshing 😂👍😊
@trooperwolfie
@trooperwolfie Жыл бұрын
I've been hillwalking/mountaineering/wildcamping for over 30 years, my personal experience is that any "waterproof" coat performs well when new, but after a couple of years use and a few washes/re-proofs, they tend to fail, especially the newer ones with "environmentally friendly" so called DWR's, you can't beat flourocarbon based DWR'S for a DURABLE water repellency. Though I'll probably be demonized for pointing out that fact lol, Greta will be after me saying "how dare you?" 🤣
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 Жыл бұрын
Yup, she’ll love you for that one 😂
@grahamriley8124
@grahamriley8124 7 ай бұрын
My paramo which is years old and I bought second hand does fine though!
@trooperwolfie
@trooperwolfie 7 ай бұрын
@@grahamriley8124 yep, totally different system with no need for a membrane or seam tape. Though paramo are like marmite, people either love em or hate em.
@nickcrosby9875
@nickcrosby9875 7 ай бұрын
Gr8 video, thank you. Did 10 Tors as a teenager, never felt so tired in my life but loved it! Agree with all yr points, particularly about water coming in off seams-- that’s a weak spot on my only Paramo jacket which otherwise works excellently. Also Buffalo Special 6 Shirt, good performer. My Goretex feels a bit damper on shoulders, despite re-proofing….and v old school Barbour + wax has its place!
@anthonyhoskin8080
@anthonyhoskin8080 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a Alta 3 Paramo jacket for 3 years, its never let me down in all the bad weather Dartmoor can throw at it. Just regular wash it with nikwax and I reproof mine about 2 a year. A brilliant piece of kit
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anthony 😊 Top bit of kit 👍🐶😊
@andrewseaborne270
@andrewseaborne270 3 жыл бұрын
Another well presented video Shamus, 👏👏I'm sure Petra is part mountain goat ,😉👍 stay safe .💪👍
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
I' pretty sure she is, Andy. Thank you 😊 You too busy 👍🐶😊
@thegeordiewanderer2954
@thegeordiewanderer2954 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! Really informative, I mean I have a little knowledge of waterproofs etc. From years in the scouts, D of E, and the reserves but, I was completely dumbfounded to the lettering for waterproofing! 🙈 Plus I almost had to turn off when you first started talking about Paramo 😂 lovely finish
@pjchosen
@pjchosen 3 жыл бұрын
What a super demonstration of 'breathability' / waterproofing. You should go into teaching or television presenting. Reminded me of my childhood watching Johnny Ball's science programmes on kids tv.... Bringing to life things my simple brain would have trouble coping with complex technical theories....
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Johnny Ball's presentations 👍😊🐶
@newforestgump8926
@newforestgump8926 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Seamus, I have only just discovered your channel and this is the first vid I have watched. That was so informative and in layman's terms. Love your Sheppard, a real softie! I'm of to watch a few more of your vids and look forward to more of the same. Keep up the great productions, they are excellent.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😊 I hope you enjoy the channel 👍😊🐶
@newforestgump8926
@newforestgump8926 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 I hope Petra joins you on all of your vids, I had a GS just like her, the same playful mannerism. I can see from the vids though that she is in lookout mode, which is typical. What an extremely loyal breed. Stay safe.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
@@newforestgump8926 You're absolutely right, nothing passes by without her having an opinion. She's a very gentle and playful dog, but the breed has a strong guarding instinct 🐶👍🐶
@ianrudd7442
@ianrudd7442 3 жыл бұрын
Once again you talk sense. It is what works for you. I have used Paramo, like you for years, at least 27, the age of my eldest. The thing that I have always found to be an issue is there weight. If I know I will wear them all day then they go. If I am going to carry them then I tend to go for Goretex. One thing that I do swear by though is their waterproof trousers which, providing it is not going to be too hot are my go to if o know that it is going to be wet.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ian 😊 Weight and warmth - yes they seem to be both in favour of and against Paramo - I suppose it depends on your point of view. As you say though, if you're wearing and not carrying then weight isn't the issue, but I find a mid layer is seldom needed while wearing Paramo - in summer, that warmth isn't always welcome either 😊🐶👍
@MarcP5267
@MarcP5267 Жыл бұрын
Wow that was great !
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Marc 😊👍
@MarcP5267
@MarcP5267 Жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 we have 2 female German Shepherd’s
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful dogs 🐶 we have two now.
@gregwallace9331
@gregwallace9331 3 жыл бұрын
A really good light weight waterproof is the final piece of the puzzle for me, just cant seem to make my mind up... Would like something that's very packable. Thanks again for another video!!! 🤟🏼
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Greg 😊👍🐶
@arranwalker
@arranwalker 3 жыл бұрын
I was told by a friend of mine who was in the outdoor clothing trade. The first thing to do when you have purchased a waterproof jacket is to clean it and reproof. The reason why is that your purchase has been handled by many people and the natural oil off their skin can have an effect on the material. Now I don't know how true that is, but everyone from the cloth cutter to the shop assistant and customers,could add up to a lot of people handling the jacket.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
I totally get that... and I wonder, with the jacket that failed, if its perhaps where a shop assistant has wiped it with a cloth / detergent or it had been returned to the store by someone who wiped it with a detergent based cleaner to make it look clean. 👍
@raggee1
@raggee1 3 жыл бұрын
I was told by Paramo themselves to put it through a protective wash as soon as you get it out if the package because it could have been laying around for a few months and they say to reproof after every 3 months. Have had no problems yet👍
@jamesrosales89
@jamesrosales89 Жыл бұрын
Would this include buying it online and having it sent in the mail ?
@stevec8243
@stevec8243 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesrosales89 I have never bothered. 99% of the shells I've purchased online have came in the manufacturers packaging so haven't been handled much. I do wash and reproof regularly once I've started wearing them.
@Path2Peak
@Path2Peak 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative 👍
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊👍🐶
@Roobarb_Defender
@Roobarb_Defender 3 жыл бұрын
I have an 18yr old UK-made ‘Porelle Fabrics’ breathable jacket and it is absolute quality & never let me down in some absolutely atrocious weather. I believe British firm Dannah now use the Porelle Dry membrane in their top of the range waterproof jackets. Expensive but I can’t recommend it highly enough. I have found it so much better than the other Gore-Tex jackets I have used and a lot of people probably haven’t even heard of it. Definitely worth checking out.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I haven't heard that name in 20 years Porelle used to make waterproof socks that actually worked 'Porelle Drys' if I remember correctly - I didn't the textile was incorporated into jackets though. Mind you, the socks were expensive!
@markartist1
@markartist1 3 жыл бұрын
Just tried out my Velez Evolution in a total downpour and strong winds Absolutely brilliant ! Very warm, so as you say, base layer choice is key.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic - they come in some interesting colours don't they? 👍😊🐶
@markartist1
@markartist1 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 They do, And cause confusing glances, I've been asked three times now. Seriously good jackets,for the Oh so colour coordinated 😂 ! I didn't know much about them, but thanks to your video and seeing who uses them ( mountain rescue) I decided to get one.. Made in Columbia by vulnerable women in a convent so that they have an income away from trafficking and prostituion is another amazing reason I bought it. Thanks for the video ! 🙂🙂
@MrStevegahan
@MrStevegahan 3 жыл бұрын
Very glad you didn't have bad news about Paramo after all, I've just bought a Alta 3 ready for testing on Sunday!!
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
It's quality gear, I hope you get many years use from it 😊👍🐶
@leegoodison
@leegoodison 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 Maybe Paramo isn`t the most sexy outdoor jackets. but ! without any hesitation its my go to jacket in any downpour. beats other jkts for breathable too. thanks very nice vblog.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
@@leegoodison thank you 😊👍🐶
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
@@leegoodison Thank you 😊👍🐶
@jasonmaddison6148
@jasonmaddison6148 3 жыл бұрын
hi steve thinking of the atla lll from paramo. can u tell me wat there like . n,face berghause a use normally . thanjs
@Yer_Da_
@Yer_Da_ 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff - thanks for the entertaining education - I've got a e-vent jacket coming in the post 26,000mm breathability and 20,000mm waterproof - I run hot so I really hope it serves me well. Having said that you've made me consider Paramo gear now... If I'm not 100% happy with the e-vent jacket I may return it and check out a Paramo jacket instead.
@vvs3796
@vvs3796 2 жыл бұрын
how did event jacket do? reviews on event are very mixed.
@steveharrison1765
@steveharrison1765 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you said the Alta jacket is good I've just got one.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was the original Alta - absolutely loved it 👍
@sammybrownfox6265
@sammybrownfox6265 3 жыл бұрын
I have had numerous jackets over the years and I highly rate Paramo. I have four jackets and cannot fault them. And when you reproof them it works everytime, unlike some.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sammy 😊 That sounds about right to me 👍🐶 If I thought a jacket would leak, I wouldn't sit under a waterfall in it 😂
@thecuttingsark5094
@thecuttingsark5094 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Once you understand the basic science behind it, it all makes sense. Different garments for different purposes. When I’m properly out and about, comfort becomes a relative term so being wet is only a problem if it makes me cold. Which is why I love windproofs (pertex and some cottons) and proper soft shells (buffalo etc). During high intensity exercise, given how much I’m sweating, it has to be raining very hard for me to worry about getting wet from the outside.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, more often than not on a rainy summers day we get wetter from inside our waterproofs too 😂😊👍
@edcrosshair
@edcrosshair 3 жыл бұрын
So true bro I’ve found over the years the simpler the jacket the best performance the less seems the dryer yall stay! Great vid bru... I still have a mera peak jacket “the red Chris bonnington one” had for years lol still wearable and still waterproof I’ve never reproofed it ! A little outta fashion but I like to rock an ole skool look now n then 8)
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 and, as you say... Old Skool Rocks 😎👍🐶
@metalbearuk
@metalbearuk 3 жыл бұрын
The best waterproof I've had so far is a Mountain Hardwear Drystein 2 made with Dry Q Elite which they no longer do sadly, but it was bombproof and very breathable. I've lost weight so only use it when I'm layering now. Other than that an Outdoor Research Gore Tex Pro has done well, but it's sweaty. I'm about to buy a Paramo Bentu to give their fabric a try, but their are so many for and so many against their garments I guess I won't know until I try it for myself.
@interlinga
@interlinga 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I think Paramo are still manufactured in Colombia, where the high moorland environment is known as paramo. I picked up quite a few bits and pieces from the small factory shop when I lived over there. The prices were so spectacularly low that I can't bring myself to buy it over here. Their clothing was great for hiking in the high moorland and mountain environments there where it was often wet and chilly, just like Dartmoor at the moment. Pajaro is one of the Spanish words for bird, maybe the jacket is named thus as it they thought it might be popular with birdwatchers. Cheers.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I didn't know what Pajaro meant - It is a popular bird watchers jacket isn't it 👍🐶😊
@raggee1
@raggee1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video on waterproofs, I’ve loads of Paramo stuff myself, oldest is the Cascada which is over 25yrs old and in perfect condition. Wear this one the most cos it covers my backside😀 It a pity they’ve not found a way of making gloves 🧤 too much stitching leads to leaks I’m guessing! Looking Fred to the next one👍
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I think gloves mostly tend to leak whoever makes them. The Cascada is a brilliant jacket isn't it - just straight forward, no frills waterproof 👍😊🐶
@discoverydave8541
@discoverydave8541 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation,simply explained......and very fare to all products.....(horses for courses). 👍🏔
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave 😊 At the end of the day, all of these products do 'a job' - I guess it's just a question of if they meet the users expectations 👍😊🐶
@marcomiceli1
@marcomiceli1 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video 👍🏻
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch it, Marco 😊👍🐶
@marcomiceli1
@marcomiceli1 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 thanks for making the video
@bobmarley6161
@bobmarley6161 3 жыл бұрын
I like bergans of Norway.. Dermizax..... But I also love paramo.... My all time favourites are old school berghaus jackets... The older mera peaks have never let me down in some horrendous weather...thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise..... Stay safe
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I like the 'old school' too - storm flap on zips, decent length and no nonsense 'stuff' added. 👍😊🐶
@bobmarley6161
@bobmarley6161 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 true true.. Your knowledge is really fantastic all the details etc.. But for me definitely the old school berghaus jackets are stunning in extreme weather..... What are paramo like in heavy snow.. As today here we have heavy snow...stay safe buddy...
@poplok22
@poplok22 2 жыл бұрын
Superb video. You have a new subscriber.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that 👍😊🐶
@ANTHONY_ROWE_L.R.P.S
@ANTHONY_ROWE_L.R.P.S 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Paramo kit, I have lots of it! But switching over from Gortex took some getting use to because like you said it works differently, but it works for me..See you in the hills..
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
It is an entirely different product isn't it 😊 See you out there 👍
@Tony-P489
@Tony-P489 3 жыл бұрын
Ah so that's what the waterproof rating means. Cheers Shamus, everyday is a school day 👍 My only concern is this might be the second video in a row with out "it's not for dogs" 😬☹️??
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Damn! 🐶 I even reproofed her waterproof jacket t he other day, so this is definitely for dogs 😂
@jamesrosales89
@jamesrosales89 Жыл бұрын
thankyou so much for your sincerity; i can tell you arent promoting a brand (like every other video ive seen they are intent on selling the brand.)
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, James. 😊
@stevec8243
@stevec8243 Жыл бұрын
Good video. If I'm out on a day where the rain is likely to be solid all day, I'll wear a hardshell. If it's showery, I'll happily wear Paramo.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 Жыл бұрын
I think I probably feel the same to be honest 👍😊
@RSLtreecare
@RSLtreecare 9 ай бұрын
Hi, that was a very good review, with some useful information. I am looking for a new winter jacket. I spend a lot of time outdoors, part of my work as well as walking and cycling. I have used Gortex, event, Paramo, Ventile and a NZ jacket made by Swazi. The last one Swazi was the longest lasting garment I have used. I have been to the Rain tower test unit at Leeds University, a very helpful team. I am re-looking at Paramo Velez, this lasted ten plus years. I have reviewed, Sasta and Klättermusen. There's others. I have found the Nordic outdoor kit is made to last...it works in very harsh weather, and from what I have seen, they work and play outdoors.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 9 ай бұрын
The only real drawback of the Velez is length (it’s short) - Thank you for watching 😊👍
@paulcomptonpdphotography
@paulcomptonpdphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Well I am now a subscriber great info
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul 😊 I appreciate that 😊👍🐶
@CampingSecretsUK
@CampingSecretsUK 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Shamus - really want to see a compilation of "outtakes" at some point :-)
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 - Haha ... There's a lot of bad language and dogs walking into shot 😂😂😂
@stevecoleman407
@stevecoleman407 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, really enjoying your channel and finding it really useful, thank you. I have a fairly new Paramo jacket, the same as the one you are wearing. And whilat wild camping a couple of weeks ago in the lakes it let me down big time. Its only probably been out in light rain a handfull.full of.times. Its now relegated to dog walking only, expensive mistake for me. I've invested in a Mountain Equipment Jacket. looking forward to staying dry getting wet.... if you know what I mean.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve 😊 I was walking the dog in some woods in heavy rain when mine failed - I was quite angry about it TBH. But reproofing has helped 👍
@briantimson1397
@briantimson1397 3 жыл бұрын
Great content. Liked and subbed 👍
@stuartwalmsley1379
@stuartwalmsley1379 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video again Shamus, I would say if you paid over £200 for a coat you can expect it to be waterproof and it was a bit disappointing that they didn't just give you a new one! I just paid £80 for my next jacket so i am a little outside your price range, lol. However great video and looking for to the next one. Stay safe Shamus.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stuart 😊 I think I might investigate a few lesser known brands shortly, I’m sure there must be some bargains to be had 👍🐶😊
@terrydactyl6751
@terrydactyl6751 3 жыл бұрын
Great video 📹 You certainly know your onions 🌰 Now subscribed 👍
@jeremycleator3357
@jeremycleator3357 3 жыл бұрын
Another good vlog as usual. After many years of using goretex and various other tex's i have recently switched to Paramo, i went for the Velez Evolution Hybrid smock,(i prefer smocks) i got fed up with paying around $500 for a jacket and it would be done in around 3 years even with regular maintenance. Also come to the conclusion that eventually if i was in gnarly weather for extended periods sometimes very extended i was always getting wet to a degree no matter what i wear, so what i wear underneath, how quick it will dry and how much moisture it will hold seems to be the key for me but hoping my Paramo top will last longer than my other jackets, cheers.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeremy - I like the look of the Evolution, I don't have one of those. I think, from Paramo's perspective, even if water gets in, the pump liner will continuously move it back out again 👍
@leafnovice7492
@leafnovice7492 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shamus. Really enjoyed your clear explanations and simple demonstrations. Maybe you could do some missionary work among the more verbose, partisan (and clueless) youtubers ? PS - I had no idea that just a 1500mm hydro head equated to the word "waterproof" !
@carolinesaunders6656
@carolinesaunders6656 3 жыл бұрын
I now have my second Paramo jacket, the women's Andina. It's much softer to wear than a goretex jacket and with the hood up the material is much quieter too. Can be a bit warm so I keep it for colder days. Very comfortable jackets and I've always stayed dry. Thanks Shamus nice clear explanations. I liked the comparison of the water droplets compared with vapour.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Caroline 😊 That's actually a not often stated point about Paramo - It just feels nice doesn't it 👍😊🐶
@martynjones7824
@martynjones7824 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Paramo Alta 3 jacket which I really like although it did let water in through the zip as I probably hadn't zipped it properly over the storm flap.. quite difficult with cold wet hands and the zip itself is a tad fiddley. I also have Paramo trousers which let me down 2 weeks ago on the Preseli hills.. this was the first time they have failed. . I had just reproofed them.. I have Goretex jackets which have only let me down after about 10 years. My new Ventile smock ( Country Innovation) on the other hand is brilliant but sadly a bit heavy for backpacking.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Martyn 😊 I wore a ventilator smock for years in colder climates - It’s a fantastic textile 👍😊🐶
@davesheffield3620
@davesheffield3620 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have always used goretex waterproofs for many years and have always been pleased with their performance. Do Paramo wear warm because of their system?
@spaztastic16
@spaztastic16 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Shamus, love the content you’ve been putting out! Quick question, do you have an opinion or any experience of Buffalo Pile and Pertex clothing? Would love to hear/read your opinion.
@sidestickflyer
@sidestickflyer 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Shamus. keep up the great videos in the Outdoor Essential series. Staple Tor is one of my favorites but where was the waterfall? ATVB Graham
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Graham - you know where it is now 😂👍🐶
@shabingly
@shabingly 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Columbia Out-Dry Extreme jacket few months back as I had a brand new Mammut hard shell wet out in 15 minutes of first use (can't send the thing back either after an argument with barbed wire 3 hours later. My fault, another story) and I'm impressed so far. Definitely seems less breathable than anything I've had before, but I am a fair bit fatter and unhealthier than "before times". Interested to see how long it lasts with a pack on, though. Cheers!
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see how thinks last with time, isn't it... It all seems good in the shop, but it's not until you've really tested it that you can make the judgement 👍😊🐶
@michaeldesouza4911
@michaeldesouza4911 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Shamus, always a delight to find you have released a new video. To be honest I have always worn Berghaus and The North Face jackets but recently switched to Rab - both waterproof and insulated jackets - so far been very impressed. What’s your opinion on a good pair of gloves ?
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael 😊 I recently bought some new gloves, but I do have many pairs. There's just such a variety of conditions to contend with. I use running gloves mainly - just standard running gloves. When it's colder, I use cheap liner gloves and a thin=cker glove over the top - something a little more insulated. I have a pair of old waterproof mittens that I use in very wet conditions to cover my gloves. Sealskinz are very popular waterproof gloves - but then Ive never found gloves to be particularly waterproof.
@michaeldesouza4911
@michaeldesouza4911 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 thanks Shamus, that is helpful. I am after a pair that at least are slightly water repellent so will look at Sealskinz. My wife, Katrina says, “whenever you watch Shamus’s videos, a few days later some new gear arrives” 🤣 stay safe and Hi to Petra.
@daleharlow6006
@daleharlow6006 2 жыл бұрын
It's always difficult in the UK most of the year as it's never that cold. Gortex etc rely so much on temperature difference between inside and out.
@clivenewton7609
@clivenewton7609 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shamus for yet another excellent and informative video. A little like yourself, over the years I’ve been through a fair number of different waterproof stuff, starting with a rather bright red 3/4 length totally waterproof and totally unbreatherable cagoule, a must have for the outdoors person of the 60’s😂. Now, because it’s as cheap as chips ex military “Gortex” seen me through some horrible weather but needs extra care when walking up a blackthorn hedge! All well and good if you don’t mind the Camouflaged pattern! I hate to ask this but is Paromo worth the hefty price tag? Kind regards Clive from deepest Dorset.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive - I loved my first Gore-Tex - it was half way down my thighs and had no frills. My first short Paramo was the Velez, followed by an Alta - they both lasted about 12 years and where abused beyond belief - I broke a zip in the Alta after about 7 years and Paramo fixed it FOC - They were fantastic, robust, hard wearing and worth every penny 👍 However, you do need to keep on to of the DWR and reproof from time to time 😊👍🐶
@brettkalbadogadventures
@brettkalbadogadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Just come across your channel loving it already haha. We have a channel and do camps on Dartmoor I’m looking to fit a camera to my dog what harness or bracket do you use to keep Petras so steady? Great video again :)
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there 😊 I'm afraid Petra's isn't standard, Ive adapted the Ruffwear Palisades pack harness to take a camera mount - the key ingredient being Araldite glue 😂
@nikolikoopz9648
@nikolikoopz9648 3 жыл бұрын
Just love dartmoor
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful landscape isn't it 😊👍🐶
@nikolikoopz9648
@nikolikoopz9648 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 I live over here on the northside Exmoor and and prefer Dartmoor to Exmoor I used to love trekking down there with my wife and my dogs haven't been for a few years now as on a heart transplant list for waiting hair transplant with a mechanical assisted heart. But your videos have given me inspiration to pop down for a day bring one of my dogs and see if me and Mrs can get out for a walk.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikolikoopz9648 Thank you for sharing this 😊 I hope you find your way here on a day with improved weather, it's blowing and raining here today. Stay safe 👍😊🐶
@austingavins9181
@austingavins9181 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Seamus and Petra, enjoying the channel from a new subscriber. Interesting and thorough explanation on breathable membranes, enjoyed the marbles and salt explanation! Recently bought a NOS RAF Gortex wet weather jacket- not the jeltex crisp packet one.... Seems really good and well put together. As an ex RAF man, any advice on cleaning and reproofing other than not using regular detergent? Thanks again for the great videos and greeting from a cool and damp Ireland!
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Austin - Thank you for subscribing 😊 I can't speak for the RAF element (I've been out too long). However, Nikwax Tech Wash works very well, it can be purchased as a twin pack with Nikwax TX Direct, which can then be used to reproof the jacket. In terms of just cleaning though, I used to use 'Granny's Soap Flakes' - available in supermarkets (it's pure soap) - I used to dissolve a small amount in hot water and use it in place of detergent. I'm not sure if it can clog up your washing machine, after time though 👍
@austingavins9181
@austingavins9181 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 thanks Seamus, will give that a try - see if I can get soap flakes locally, have some Grainger's equivalent lying around I think also. Thanks also for the dog tips whilst camping, think you may be one of a very select few providing that sort of info this side of the Atlantic, warm regards, Austin
@30m3
@30m3 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of Paramo before. I've been a fan of Arcteryx hard shells for years now. Breathability is always the big issue, Gore Tex Pro isn't too bad but for high output activities you still need to vent heat regularly. Shakedry has potential if they can make that material slightly tougher.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Well I'm off to look at Shakedry now 👍 Thank you 😊
@tbrowniscool
@tbrowniscool 2 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 heard great things but you can't wear a backpack or any abrasion to the material. For ultramarathons/running/cycling pretty perfect
@JasonKenway
@JasonKenway 2 ай бұрын
Tried the Paramo Cascadia trousers on a wet, snowy day in the Brecon Beacons. Failed within an hour with cold water streaming down my legs. Had to abort, since washed and reproofed but not confident to try again. Do I have to wear long base layer under them?
@mikejames987
@mikejames987 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@maclagor
@maclagor Жыл бұрын
Do wish you'd make a return to YT, Seamus - its great content. Out of interest,do you remember which boots these are in this video? Look like a classic leather, assume unlined; its so hard to find straight up leather boots these days without costing the earth...
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 Жыл бұрын
Rest assured, Petra and I will be back making YT vids. We are in the middle of moving house with everything in storage at the moment though… The boots are Scarpa Trek GTX - I’ve had a couple of pairs of them and they fit my feet very well - they have a relatively narrow heel cup. 👍😊🐶
@jonathantaylor3750
@jonathantaylor3750 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, new subscriber. What Rab jacket are you wearing in the video? Bought myself a Rab Downpour recently, great jacket for what it is.
@chrishanssen1980
@chrishanssen1980 3 жыл бұрын
I find waterproof discussion very interesting. I have used Mac in a Sac to throw in my bag in the summer for a few trips now and it works great. I dont expect to remain completely bone dry but it really keeps the bulk of the wet away and actually is mainly from condensation issues. Open the zip let out the mist and good to go again. A point of view but not condemning gore tex in anyway.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris - I do this as well 👍 I have a lightweight windproof that I chuck in a bag - if it keeps the wind off, I'm happy and if it saves me from drizzle then I'm very happy 👍🐶👍
@chrishanssen1980
@chrishanssen1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 it’s a valid backpacking conundrum for most. Why spend a fortune on a waterproof if you will only ever go out when the weather is forecasted to be at least passable? Obviously have a waterproof but maybe worry less. Although my stepfather has a stupidly expensive raincoat and hates being out in the rain.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrishanssen1980 - Absolutely right - I always say, with waterproof trousers, buy cheap and light because they will spend most of their life living in a rucksack. At least with a jacket it can be worn elsewhere 👍
@jodyjohnstone3520
@jodyjohnstone3520 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Rab Ladakh gtx jacket recently, used it in some horrible weather already and it's not let me down. Looking at overtrousers now, more specifically the Mountain Equipment Saltoro pants. Just wondering if any retailers of them will have any Black Friday offers.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Crikey! Yes it's always worth looking out for sales 👍 I need some new WP trousers as well 😊🐶
@DorsetPiper.
@DorsetPiper. 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Paramo advocate, great explanation Shamus. I am always keen to see how I would find Buffalo wear, a totally different way of staying comfortable in wet environments but having invested in Paramo and being happy with their garments I haven't (yet) tried them - any thoughts or experience? Cheers.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 There are many buffalo fans out there. I had one fro years until it was stolen from my car on a S Wales trip. It won't keep you dry but it will move the moisture away. I just found it too hot to be honest 👍😊🐶
@xiaobaozha
@xiaobaozha 3 жыл бұрын
The Velez rocks!
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does 👍😊🐶
@rogercartwright2884
@rogercartwright2884 3 жыл бұрын
Had the same problem with a new velez smock got soaked sent back reproofed, haven't tried again in serious weather yet.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Roger, it does seem a bit hit and miss sometimes, doesn't it. 😊 Good luck, I hope it works out 👍🐶😊
@paulrayne2786
@paulrayne2786 3 жыл бұрын
Hi shamus,love the videos,how often would you recommend re-proofing a gore tex jacket?and what’s your go to proofer? Many thanks, Paul.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Paul, unfortunately reproofing can be 'as long as a piece of string' ultimately you need the DWR to be effective, if the garment is just 'wetting out' then it probably needs cleaning, reproofing or both. I always use Nikwax Tech Wash to clean and TX direct to reproof - but obviously you need to consult your manufacturers care instructions 😊👍🐶
@paulrayne2786
@paulrayne2786 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 thank you,most appreciated.:-)
@phil.clarke
@phil.clarke 3 жыл бұрын
I nearly unsubscribed as I thought you were going to say something bad about my favoured brand! I discovered Páramo on my mountain leader training course xx years ago and since then have always looked to Páramo first for my needs. Never let me down and much of my kit has lasted for years, probably because I take care of it. But Páramo is very expensive and does have ongoing maintenance/care costs. I have started to explore cheaper brands and was surprised to find myself loving the relatively cheap Technicals range from the JD Sports brands (Blacks, Go Outdoors, Millets, Ultimate Outdoors). Their Pinnacle waterproof jacket is awesome.
@outdoorsinspiration9284
@outdoorsinspiration9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phillip, I thought my initial comment about Paramo might have one or two rolling up their sleeves 😂 I think there is a lot to be said for some cheaper brands these days - but look for stitching and taping 👍
@Bereit18
@Bereit18 3 жыл бұрын
What base layers do you wear under a Paramo? Paramo base layers or merino wool? All advice welcome as thinking of buying my first Paramo this yr. Simon
@danceswithbadgers
@danceswithbadgers 2 жыл бұрын
I went back to Parimo two years back, having been let down badly by a Polartec Neoshell jacket and Gore Activeshell trousers. My merino base layers saved me from hypothermia. I've long since eschewed polyester base layers as they make my skin hot and clammy, confusing my body as to how warm I really am and leading to miserable discomfort. I've continued to use merino under my Paramo jacket and also leggings with my Paramo trousers (if it's very cold). Mesh base layers work fantastically well with the pump liner. I've tried Aclima and Devold mesh and prefer the Devold for fit and the stretchiness of the fabric, which make for unrestricted movement. No stockists for Devold in the UK so I buy from Norway and Germany online. You'd be fine with your usual size.
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