Paranormal Liberation is What The 4th Shinobi War Should Have Been

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@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Which arc did you like better?
@yonatansun
@yonatansun Жыл бұрын
My hero but I didn't watch naruto soooo
@solihinsolihin4142
@solihinsolihin4142 Жыл бұрын
Ainz sama with his 100+ luck
@Hollowmello1285
@Hollowmello1285 Жыл бұрын
None cause in the end outside of a death of side characters that hasn't done anything since the beginning it has no consequences
@tomaspires8502
@tomaspires8502 Жыл бұрын
My hero has the better show an "real" war, but on naruto is kinda goofy except from madara and guy on my opinion
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
I think I preferred Naruto just for the fact I think Naruto is just simply better, but I’m biased. The liberation war was probably better if I’m looking at it objectively, because as much as I enjoyed the Shinobi War, it is a mess structurally.
@kasparkusserow4546
@kasparkusserow4546 Жыл бұрын
I like how the liberation perfectly incapsulates what nagato once said "war brings death, injuries and pain to both sides" since not only the heroes and civilians suffered but the villains as well
@codafett
@codafett Жыл бұрын
No one won the Liberation War. Deku failed to stop Shiggy, Shiggy lost control of his body, thousands of people are dead and the top Hero in Japan was revealed to be a wife beater.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I agree, this is the reality!
@megumi112
@megumi112 Жыл бұрын
@@codafettand a child abuser
@PokerFaceMAN
@PokerFaceMAN Жыл бұрын
Youre absolutely right about Naruto’s ending, the main and last villain should have been Madara, not some bullshit they came up with in the last second out of their ass
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
They should have had more build up or have Madara as the final boss. Because Kaguya PALES in comparison to Madara in terms of writing, making the end very unsatisfying
@PokerFaceMAN
@PokerFaceMAN Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv I think they did that bullshit to milk the cash cow more with the garbage “Boruto”, we all know no one will watch that trash if not to see our beloved characters we grew up with for so many years.
@chalbramwell5353
@chalbramwell5353 Жыл бұрын
The last villain can't be madara because sasuke was always setup for naruto to fight
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman Жыл бұрын
​@@chalbramwell5353 true
@star-rock6466
@star-rock6466 Жыл бұрын
@@PokerFaceMAN kinda rude for a show who is honestly kinda alright
@CT-bu5kv
@CT-bu5kv Жыл бұрын
Whelp guess I’m a Mahis fanboy now. I appreciate these connections and ideas referencing shows I love, AND THEN on top of that the writing and on-screen anime’s matching up to what is being spoken. Great work as always I can’t wait for your channel to blow up!
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! It blew up once during my Demon Slayer Arc, hopefully it will happen again) Also, I appreciate you noticing the script matching the video, that's the whole reason why I do it
@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь
@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь Жыл бұрын
9:04 - Deku even suffers from PTSD after the encounter with All for one and Shigaraki. He's having nightmares with them
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Yep, Deku has all the rights to - he has seen some serious shit.
@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь
@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь Жыл бұрын
5:51 - damn, Shigaraki was like Pain when he used Shinra Tensei to decimate the Leaf village
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
He Shinra Tenseid the absolute crap out of that town! What a glorious sight it was...
@yonatansun
@yonatansun Жыл бұрын
I love all your stuff so good ❤❤
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Thank you for encouragement!
@zonnodon163
@zonnodon163 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to war arcs in general, you're absolutely right. MHA has better structures of war than Naruto Part 2 ever had. Like Kishimoto made the wrong choices when it came to writing warfare, all the while ending his series. It just became one wide mess that felt lame, weak, and forgetful.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I know for the fact that MHA author borrowed a lot from Naruto. But he did so while improving the concepts he took, which I respect.
@db4517
@db4517 Жыл бұрын
Forgetful naruto is the 3rd most popular anime ever mha isn't even top 10
@lostwater227
@lostwater227 6 ай бұрын
I mean, Naruto's arc was actually a war arc, MHA's is just a few heroes and villains fighting. There's nothing “war” in MHA other than the fact that there are two groups fighting. It's just a larger Overhaul arc. MHA deliberately avoids the “war” aspect to keep it as small and simple as possible.
@dab1ackdud3
@dab1ackdud3 Жыл бұрын
I discovered you yesterday and this isn't the first video I've watched of yours but I just noticed your subscriber count and want to declare now that I was here before you got your first 100k. Hope I see you reach it within the year.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Thank you dude, glad to have you here! Fingers crossed)
@bobbymiczobby
@bobbymiczobby Жыл бұрын
If I ever make a story, I'll literally pay you to help me flesh it out XD
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I'm down! Hit me up when the time comes
@bobbymiczobby
@bobbymiczobby Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv Oh! Absolutely will do!
@silveratlas2706
@silveratlas2706 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's clear that Horikoshi took into consideration parts of Naruto's war while crafting his own first big war in his manga. It's not perfect but it is a lot more cohesive and well thought out. For complaints there isn't much, mainly that after Dabi's reveal we get 4 chapters of nonstop surprise reveals of which some work (Best Jeanist being alive, Compress backstory, Bakugo's hero name, Danger Sense) but one really fumbles (Mirio's return). Also this arc feels more like two simultaneous battles than the real definition of a war, but that's mainly because of the smaller focus and the fact that shonen Manga and anime usually aren't suited for showing a war that resembles more closely what we had in the real world. Mainly the fact that wars don't last just one afternoon in the case of MHA or a couple of days in the case of Naruto. Apart from that tho this arc is a perfect example of how to structure and execute a big climatic arc and how to pay off years of development in a concise and effective way. One of my favorite aspects has to be that both sides took heavy losses and the Villains won basically just by escaping the ambush. The heroes tried their best and took down many opponents, but in the end it wasn't enough and because of Shiggy and Machia's path of destruction, Touya's reveal shattering the public image of heroes, Re Destro's clone killing the higher ups of hero society and Tartarus being broken into, the Villains still came out on top.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I agree, especially with many "convenient" reinforcements. Same can be said for Villains though. Machia came just in time. And scale, yes, it was too quick and too concentrated to call it a war.
@silveratlas2706
@silveratlas2706 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv this arc is truly one of the best I've read. The only thing I really don't think was done well is Mirio's return. It really felt like it was thrown together last minute for the sake of a hype moment, sacrificing what could have been a great arc of Eri learning to control her powers so Mirio could get his power back. Instead it all happens offscreen just so he can punch a couple Nomus in the war. Then he disappears for almost 70 chapters and while his appearance in the second war is much better, it would have been much more impactful if he didn't show up in the first one and we learned in that moment that he got his powers back. Plus we could have seen Eri's training in the background during the preparations for the second war. Aside from that tho, everything else was Peak during this arc, I wouldn't change anything else.
@star-rock6466
@star-rock6466 Жыл бұрын
@@silveratlas2706 I mean, idk exactly how you could have made a whole ass arc around eri's quirk training, like-
@jimbo7551
@jimbo7551 Жыл бұрын
You want to talk good war arcs? Read The Kou Empire arc in Magi that was closer to irl war and was good.
@mrsnipermask936
@mrsnipermask936 Жыл бұрын
Woooowww nice research and connections made. 🤯 NVR caught most of these. Like the 2 warping powers and the NAMES
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Obito and Kurogiri connection literally woke me up in the middle of the night)
@mrsnipermask936
@mrsnipermask936 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv BROOOO, that's some powerful neurons firing off u got there!
@cartof3527
@cartof3527 Жыл бұрын
Underrated youtuber I love all your videos
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that means a lot to me!
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Жыл бұрын
I agreed that things in Naruto clearly needed to change after the Forth Great Ninja War and I did lay them out. At least, the problems they needed to avoid if a central government similar to the Republic in Star Wars is formed, which it sort of did in Boruto. And you are right. How things went in the Paranormal Liberation War Arc is way more reaslitic. Aind since you've talked about the war arcs of Naruto and My Hero Academia, would you like to talk about how to save both Paradis and the rest of the world in Attack on Titan without using the Rumbling and Zeke's plan? Obviously, I have a plan known as the Heraclius Plan and I wanted to see what you will think about it. If you're interested to hear, of course.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I Haven't watched AoT completely yet, I'm aware of most plot points, but not it's intricacies. So we might talk about that when I get to AoT
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv Thanks! I will be looking forward to it!
@pengen_gantinama
@pengen_gantinama Жыл бұрын
I love to see the remake or sequel of this video after the latest (hopefully final) war arc in the MHA. 😆 Though seeing how slow the manga release currently are, we won't be seeing the final season until at least 2025.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Well, we just have to wait till then)
@forbiddenlegacy1886
@forbiddenlegacy1886 Жыл бұрын
5:52 i come for your wisdom and stay for the shear comedy.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
lol, glad you enjoy it!
@evgenkhersonets880
@evgenkhersonets880 Жыл бұрын
If you think that War arc was good, wait until Shibuya Incident from JJK
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to binge the shit out of JJK
@angryboi595
@angryboi595 Ай бұрын
That arc was fucking horrible? Super rushed and people just randomly died without reason. Mha s6’s war arc was better bro
@evgenkhersonets880
@evgenkhersonets880 Ай бұрын
@@angryboi595 It wasn't rushed, it's just that similar arcs from other anime are overly long. I mean, come on, we are 12 episodes into the final battle in MHA and it's only half way point. And people didn't die randomly, it's war, finally an anime with stakes, unlike MHA.
@angryboi595
@angryboi595 Ай бұрын
@@evgenkhersonets880 the issue is the arc happened way too early. Half the cast shouldn’t be dying in season 2/the 5th arc esp when characters who have only gotten 1 moment in the series or haven’t gotten to showcase their full power just die. Deaths isn’t what make a war arc good (Marineford is a great example even if Ace dies in the end)
@evgenkhersonets880
@evgenkhersonets880 Ай бұрын
@@angryboi595 you're right, deaths doesn't make a war arc food, because Shibuya is perfect without them. It's a great list of small events united by a cause-effect chain. Many other war arcs either are made of overly long separated fights (like in MHA and KnY) or are just a giant bowl of mess put in a mixer (like Marineford and 4th ninja war). Shibuya, on the other hand, is like an organized chaos. Events are dynamic, every second episode an everything-changing-thing happens. One thing goes after another and it makes sense. And what half of cast are you talking about, when only 2 good guys died in Shibuya? It's good that such a big event has consequences and showcases that stakes are real.
@hiitsalex6780
@hiitsalex6780 Жыл бұрын
You forgot after the war end, Sasuke wanted to start another one. And he walk away with no consequences.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Nah, he was just a bit grumpy)
@kagesora007
@kagesora007 7 ай бұрын
Things did not so much "go back to normal" for the shinobi as "go back to the new normal" for them. The entire meaning of the alliance was "let's stop all this fighting because it hurts, is dumb, and only helps the real baddies." The start of the war itself was an "everything is different" moment like the end of the PLW; in that one way, they're too different to compare.
@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь
@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь Жыл бұрын
4:14 - it's like a post apocalyptic world like in Mad Max or The last of us
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
In a way, yes!
@失敗-Yixing
@失敗-Yixing Жыл бұрын
I couldn't get a ruler but i got my beverage
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
That's the most important part)
@the0therch0ice
@the0therch0ice 6 ай бұрын
I was just about to type this. Also, they fought in the forest and desert to specifically avoid civilian deaths and casualties.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 Жыл бұрын
Felt like the PLF didn’t get to shine as much. They lost so many members until Shigaraki and Gigantomachia woke up.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I can see that, but most of them are cannon fodder who got indoctrinated into this movement. Zealots with no individuality
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv “most of them are canon fodder” And that’s what I found strange because didn’t Redestro say the MLA was training in secret for years? Hawks made a big deal about them being a danger to hero society.
@anusaukko6792
@anusaukko6792 Ай бұрын
@@neofulcrum5013 One MLA cannon fodder is still taking down one cannon fodder hero, or 10 untrained civilians. Over 100k MLA fodder is on the same level as, or probably BEYOND the heroes of Japan. Basically everyone except for the super powerful would be taken down, not to mention people who convert or get forcefully conscripted in a nation wide civil war.
@iskanzhaksybekov483
@iskanzhaksybekov483 Жыл бұрын
Love the vid structure!!
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Thank you dude!
@SuperPlacido1
@SuperPlacido1 Жыл бұрын
*video not vid. I do not understand the concept of wanting to shorten a word that is already short enough as it is. I find it ridiculous. But I do understand wanting to shorten long words.🤦
@daddy_1453
@daddy_1453 Жыл бұрын
Wano war. TYBW. Paranormal War. Retisize War(Overlord IV). A lotta major war arcs airing right now or in close proximity. We eating good.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
What a time to be alive!
@jello6845
@jello6845 Жыл бұрын
Watching both the thousand year blood war arc and Liberation war side by side. MHA handled it alot better, tybw had alot of plot holes that just didn't make sense and even though the same amount of episodes had passed we didn't really get to the meat of the fights yet. It also doesn't help that I literally don't care about soul society as a place and it's residents are routinely murdered by the captains that swore to protect the place.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Facts. SS is a fucked up place and the author did EVERYTHING to prevent us from liking it. So immediately, the only reason I care is that, by extension, our world is fucked too if Yahweh wins. Also, MHA has its fights and so on, but there is always a bigger picture, while Bleach is more like a series of 1 on 1 battles with some exceptions
@Agent-57
@Agent-57 Жыл бұрын
Funny how Harribel just got launched from the story.
@daddy_1453
@daddy_1453 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv SS is literally built atop foundations of betrayal and injustice. The Royal Families of soul society never face the consequences of betraying and humiliating the Soul King. We later learn they even planned to kill Ichigo for reasons I won’t spoil. It’s a war of scumbags. But at least SS represents the (corrupt) status quo?
@daddy_1453
@daddy_1453 Жыл бұрын
What do you feel about the Wano war? It’s also airing side by side with these war arcs.
@jello6845
@jello6845 Жыл бұрын
@@daddy_1453 Honestly wano doesn't feel like a war arc the way the other two do. It's really more about the stakes, wano is just like every other one piece arc where a pirate is hurting a land and Luffy beats him. I'd say paramount war is the only real comparison and that's one of the best arcs in anime
@tomaspires8502
@tomaspires8502 Жыл бұрын
I hope the judgement day of black clover to be better than my hero war till this morment, prob will not have any deaths but i still have hope. Anyways good vid
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Thank you, hopefully. I do like Liberation war though and have little to no complaints about it... which is weird coming from me)
@felipekane9611
@felipekane9611 Жыл бұрын
Black cover could make a good war, but not as memorable and better than mha imo.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
The best anime war arc is the One Year War of Mobile Suit Gundam, no contest.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm comparing 2 dumb shonens and you are bringing the big guns! (pun totally intended)
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv I mean it’s probably my favorite War in all of fiction, so it’s probably not fair to compare
@Tecco273
@Tecco273 Жыл бұрын
Best Naruto hot take I have ever heard War arc was filler 😂
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I mean... if you look at its core, yes! It was a setup for Naruto Vs Sasuke rematch #69
@daddy_1453
@daddy_1453 Жыл бұрын
“It sounds a lot like a filler, doesn’t it?” Bruh. Instant subscription. My problem exactly with most stories for lacking serious consequences.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Welcome dude, I 100% agree.
@db4517
@db4517 Жыл бұрын
Idiot there was serious consequences in the 4th shinobi war entire countries were destroyed over half the ninja population was destroyed and peace was brought to the world
@cleanfrank218
@cleanfrank218 7 ай бұрын
Since you mentioned Kabuto, he would be a great villain in boruto
@mahistv
@mahistv 7 ай бұрын
Haven't seen Boruto, so can't tell
@cleanfrank218
@cleanfrank218 7 ай бұрын
@@mahistv well don't comrade
@plasma_boi
@plasma_boi Жыл бұрын
this video felt like there was alot of hate packed in for naruto
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Not for Naruto in general, just the last arc - they were dragging us by the balls to give us an unsatisfactory conclusion (Kaguya that is). Naruto VS Sasuke was great on all accounts
@kevinbaumhoer7359
@kevinbaumhoer7359 Жыл бұрын
You mean the knock of Version of the 4th great ninja war who was around a Dozens tmes better than the Paranomal liberation war what could have ended in 1 chapter
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I disagree. 4rth ninja war was inferior overall and I just explained why
@coolbeans3752
@coolbeans3752 Жыл бұрын
Madera was replaced by Kaguya because Kishimoto couldn't beat him.
@jello6845
@jello6845 Жыл бұрын
Actual facts, madara buffed Naruto and sasuke so much and still couldn't imagine a scenario where madara lost
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
A very fair point... ass-pulls happen IRL too
@chalbramwell5353
@chalbramwell5353 Жыл бұрын
Kaguya was foreshadowed to be introduced but it was jus written poorly kishi probably jus wanted to hurry and end the arc Btw if kishi can find a way to beat her then madara shouldn't be a big deal
@EdogaMiyamoto-qg4bb
@EdogaMiyamoto-qg4bb 4 ай бұрын
No he not only whipped it out but he was swinging it around to show he was not fucking around. A villain for sure needs to show their power not try to act all high and mighty. Finish off your enemy immediately so they stop being a pain in the ass which I see MHA do
@thehobbyist7275
@thehobbyist7275 Жыл бұрын
Aside from the infrastructure that came into place that compiled into both War Arcs, I think we have to consider how we got to these points. Thematically, Naruto and My Hero Academia had something to say that would spark the reasons for their respective wars. Naruto's was about the cycle of hatred which had been a driving force since the Land of Waves Arc. It would've been an arc about deciding if Naruto and the Shinobi World could break the cycle. In my mind, aside from fighting to prevent the Infinite Tsukiyomi (sorry if I spelled it wrong), I think that part of it wasn't explored as much as My Hero Academia. As a comparison, the biggest and best buildup to the Paranormal Liberation War Arc hands down had to be My Villain Academia. For the longest time, we focused heavily on Class 1-A and the pro heroes, but not on the ideologies and characters of the villains. They were simply the obstacle. While we had villains like Stain as well as Gentle Criminal, Kurogiri, and La Brava that helped showcase the faults of the heroes' system, Everyone developed in their own ways. Twice grew confident inside of his own skin in a way that was well deserved. Toga showed us how dangerous she could be with Uraka's quirk and that she was capable of compassion for others in her interactions with Twice. Most importantly of all, Shigaraki became a legitimate threat to the series and was no longer the scratchy-voiced, temper-tantrum-throwing man-child that he was at the beginning of the series. He took what he learned from the likes of AFO and Stain's ideology, and combined it with the ability to rally people to his side from the likes of Redestro and Overhaul. Shigaraki only ever cared about destruction as that was always part of his character, but his ability to trust others and to work effectively with his league as a team catapulted him to a point where we could see why he's the true successor of All For One. Shigaraki's backstory is the darkest up to this point, but he no longer draws from that pain to victimize himself or the people around him. Now, he takes matters violently into his own hands. Now, Shigaraki always fights like he has nothing to lose which is what makes him the most terrifying. Little did we know that Dabi would do huge things for the villains. Unlike Obito, Dabi's reveal not only shook the entire morale of the pro heroes to the core and basically deflated all of Endeavor's momentum, it felt bigger... as if it was the ace in the hole to finally put hero society in the coffin and for the most part, it's worked. Tartarus Escapees(Dark Vigilante) highlights how severely Dabi's actions affected the outcome of both sides' ideals. Causing heroes to quit to a point where crime and a sense of anarchy were overrunning Japan. Even when the arc ended, we had people like Lady Nagant who also contributed to the message behind people being screwed up in the pro-hero system. My Hero's tone has drastically changed from what it was and unlike Naruto, made us really feel that everyone but especially the villains made an impact on the entire world
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
This is some great insight. I really like the way you put it and Obito/Dabi comparison is not something I've thought tbh!
@thehobbyist7275
@thehobbyist7275 Жыл бұрын
@mahistv I'd say if you were looking for a more direct parallel or inspiration, it'd definitely be Kurogiri, but there's definitely something to be had with Dabi. Even in recent chapters, he's been going crazy. Besides, unlike Kakashi and Obito, Kurogiri and Aizawa's relationship wasn't really focused on, and we don't have as much of a connection as we did with Dabi and the Todoroki family. I'm sure you're aware, but several people had years of speculation towards this moment. This wasn't a "dun-dun-dun" kinda reveal, but more of a confirmation of what fans had already believed to be true. For others, this was huge all the same. One other thing that I didn't mention that played a factor with Naruto's or My Hero's War Arcs was the individual moments that took place that kept you engaged throughout the arc. Kirishima saving Mina from Gigantomachia was a great redemption moment for him. Aizawa was literally carrying the pro heroes and was THE reason all the pro heroes didn't immediately get murdered by Shigaraki. Just imagine the fact that Shigaraki posing over the #1 hero would've been a dust pile. Aizawa cutting his leg off later was badass and a close call with dying at the same hands as Shigaraki greatly added to the individual moments. Bakugo saving Deku is another highlight, Deku unlocking Danger Sense, Deku's rage moment, the death of Midnight giving Momo the moment she needed in developing and leading to the defeat of Gigantomachia, The return of Lemilion and Best Jeanist, Twice's death... literally, moment after moment, that kept you engaged the whole time. Naruto, on the other hand, dragged on a LOT. More planning scenes than individual moments. Choji and Shikamaru had their moments, and the ideas of the Edo Tensei's were cool, but we never spent enough time with the rest of Konaha to build up to any meaningful moments in between the long expedition up to Madara's appearance or afterwards. Even Guy's 8th gate is undermined because he didn't die and was left as a useless character afterward. His death after facing Madara with no resurrection would've been HUGE and could've done something for Rock Lee or other konoha favorites. All of the time-skip Naruto[Shippuden] ignores the side cast during this arc(and throughout the series in general) , so the war felt dragged and unnecessary after a certain point. A hardly established being in Kaguya and black zetsu undermines the series' build up of Madara EDIT: Did I also forget to mention that Neji's death was stupid? He has a rotational move that he could've used to stop the sticks if, for whatever reason, Naruto wasn't fast enough
@violettracey
@violettracey Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Arjun-kz1ji
@Arjun-kz1ji 8 ай бұрын
Don't care what others say, just having to watch kakashi vs obito puts war arc at one of the best anime arcs for me
@mahistv
@mahistv 7 ай бұрын
Well, this is a "cosmetic" part of the story. Though it is one of the best fights in anime in my opinion, because of how it was choreographed, the emotions it portrays, the music... it's definitely peak Naruto.
@jswitchg
@jswitchg 11 ай бұрын
Can somebody tell me what the beginning song that he used from mha cause I can’t find the name and I really like the song.
@mahistv
@mahistv 11 ай бұрын
MHA OST #23 UA High
@abhinandannandan3863
@abhinandannandan3863 Жыл бұрын
Personally speaking The Naruto war arc is one of my favourites in all anime, the mha war arc is ight.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
It would have been great if they didn't drag it out, killed a few more characters to raise stakes and ditched Kaguya bullshit completely. But, they had to set up Otsutsuki for Boruto so there is that
@abhinandannandan3863
@abhinandannandan3863 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv well for me It's highs are so high, the low feel like nothing Sasuke and Itachi screens Naruto every screen Kakashi and obito Even kabuto The five kage The revived hokage Sasuke himself Nagato Some of these screens are better then entire series For example, name one moment on the same level as Itachi final apology in the whole of mha
@mat_developer
@mat_developer Жыл бұрын
@@abhinandannandan3863 the problem is that these highs are only built by hype cause these pairs or characters werent explored much. its not a high because of story telling. example, revived hokage, youre hyped to see them so its a high for u. thats a u problem cause u arent thinking how it affects the story, yeah naruto gets to fight with his father but after the war what about naruto changed? when u make ur entire personal opinion about characters and pairs of characters while comparing them to entire series u certainly have not watched and heard about im sure its irrational. like i can compare war arcs like bleach and naruto and confidently say bleach is better. my hero goes into depth and is REALISTIC with the effects of war than creating hype over a few characters if i were to make a point system of hype and realism MHA Naruto Hype - 1 for mha and 1 for naruto as u said before the hokage, kabuto and naruto etc but then for mha u got new shigaraki, all for one, high end nomus, gigantomachia, and reunions like shoto and dabi they have the same hype around them but for realism its to mha only so 2 points go to mha and 1 point go to naruto which still makes mha story telling in the war arcs better i can say confidently that OG naruto, not shippuden nor boruto might be better than mha overall
@mat_developer
@mat_developer Жыл бұрын
@@abhinandannandan3863 itachis final apology is subjective, cause really it didnt move me, but it might have moved u lol, u need to learn how to accept that personal opinions doesnt equal fact. cause bakugos apology to deku, WHEN WE HAVE KNOWN HIM TO BULLY DEKU SINCE EPISODE 1 is much more impactful cause both are at their lowest points and both finally accepted each other, u might say that ive watched it and its not moving but this all changes when u watch the series from episode 1 up until now. like what ive done with naruto
@abhinandannandan3863
@abhinandannandan3863 Жыл бұрын
@@mat_developer The point of the war isn't to change Naruto, it's for Naruto and sasuke to change the world. Which they do I have completed OG Naruto 2 times Shippuden 5 times and am still very heavily involved in Naruto. Naruto is 40% of my life. I've watched mha a 2 or 3 times just completed it's last season. Mate I'll admit, the war arc doesn't show, the effects of war very well. Also Naruto war arc is way more hype then anything in mha But again Naruto is 40% of my life and I've been following it for nearly a decade
@Shadowsoldier222
@Shadowsoldier222 Жыл бұрын
Second comment# can’t wait😊
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Hope you like it)
@frostfirescorpion
@frostfirescorpion Жыл бұрын
Dream world was a lie, infinite tsukuyomi would have killed everybody, making them white zetsu.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Yes, but they WHILE they were alive, they'd see the dreams)
@godacealdridge7371
@godacealdridge7371 Жыл бұрын
Madara throwing the meteor:boy watch your tounge
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I'd honestly not mind talking to Madara about this, I was promised to not be tortured if he didn't like what I had to say. Death at his hand is fine though
@N_Tertainment7
@N_Tertainment7 Жыл бұрын
If Power is all you can resort to in order to defend this, Then You've already lost
@wizardwolf1020
@wizardwolf1020 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually the other way aroumd
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
How so?
@ysgramorssoupspoon2261
@ysgramorssoupspoon2261 Ай бұрын
What about the second one Onoki?
@mahistv
@mahistv Ай бұрын
Hehe, always makes me giggle
@justdrawing231
@justdrawing231 Жыл бұрын
“Who has the best war arc?” Berserk
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Well I meant out of these two... why do you have to do them like that?
@justdrawing231
@justdrawing231 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv Well cus it has the best war arc I’ve read (Haven’t read Kingdom don’t at me) and I have low listening comprehension.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
@@justdrawing231 I understand, I was just making fun)
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
Gundam
@Agent-57
@Agent-57 Жыл бұрын
The real world
@guptansh8067
@guptansh8067 Жыл бұрын
Neji's death is the most hated one , what are they doing? One piece reffrence, if so do it well , should've given hinata a fight with some elite and then have neji die protecting her , and then have her defeat the elite , that would've been awesome but here hinata's brother died and bitch wants to touch naruto's warm warm hands 🗿
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I say he should have died protecting Naruto, not protecting Naruto who wanted to protect Hinata. That way he would have died like a hero and not like he was always supposed to.
@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь
@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь Жыл бұрын
Finally. Now MHA rocks and Naruto sucks. I can hear Shigaraki and Dabi laughing at Naruto. Also I wanted to talk about villains. Madara was good but he was wasted. Shigaraki on the other hand was there from the beginning. He was a joke. But not anymore. Now he is one of the strongest characters in MHA world ever. Shigaraki at war arc wasn't complete, he was 75% of completion so it's understandable why All for one took control over his body. While Madara... No comment
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Madara was theyre for a while too, even if it was just a hint. However Kaguys managed to ruin the whole thing. Also Naruto doesn't suck, it's parts of Naruto that suck
@necogreendragon
@necogreendragon Жыл бұрын
Naruto had to go back to the status quo so everyone cold have babies for the sequel series.🙄
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They had to continue the story and changing it's fundamentals is not a good money strategy
@codafett
@codafett Жыл бұрын
I disagree about Madara's intro being better than Shigaraki's because MHA did much the same thing as Naruto in a fraction of the time: They introduced us to Tomura's crazy power up, multiple characters are shown to be visibly frightened by him or the prospect of him waking up and within the same two chapters he reenters the fray, he shows us immediately why we should be afraid of what he can do.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I agree, this is something I've mentioned in the video briefly, however, this surprise factor for me was a bit better in terms of reveal. I love Shiggy's character arc and how he was developed, so there was no surprise for me, unlike with Madara.
@mangamandrew
@mangamandrew Жыл бұрын
I actually want to know if you are caught up with recent MHA and if so, how does it compare to Naruto.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
only seen 1st half of S6, really want to watch the second but can't find a day to binge it
@mangamandrew
@mangamandrew Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv we’ll be prepared to meet best female character
@youare5907
@youare5907 7 ай бұрын
The justification for why madaras plan wasn't do bad is kinds head scratching. Off your metrics shouldn't people just stack as much money then just stay on some drug 24/7 until they die?
@mahistv
@mahistv 7 ай бұрын
It's about the lesser of two evils. If I had a choice between years of miserable, fighting for my life survival with no end in sight and a "matrix" essentially. I pick the world of dreams any time of the day, because in both cases life is over. However, it's different when there is a chance of living through a disaster and put the world back together. I would try to make it through.
@aprilbernal7829
@aprilbernal7829 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that MHA's Female Characters actually did something to help their male counterparts, while meanwhile Naruto's Female Characters... sure they did something, but at the same time, they didn't really do anything that phenomenal, if you know what I mean
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, they only thing I could remember girls doing in Naruto is blowing some dust off from one grumpy boi, and chest compressing Naruto to prolong his life.
@RedLights9000-f3l
@RedLights9000-f3l Жыл бұрын
They're not the same bro 1:33 🗿
@letsgoloca1846
@letsgoloca1846 Жыл бұрын
He said 60% identical, not completely identical
@RedLights9000-f3l
@RedLights9000-f3l Жыл бұрын
@@letsgoloca1846 it's just a joke
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I may have exaggerated a bit, buy you can't deny the similarities)
@yonatansun
@yonatansun Жыл бұрын
third
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
The order is a bit messed up...
@hoifzf
@hoifzf Жыл бұрын
My guy I think your purposely oversimplifying the effects of the 4th war Obito's and Kabuto's army killed thousands and had a deep effect on the resolve of the allied forces that needed to be convinced to continue multiple times sure to an outside view the infinite Tsukiyomi doesn't seem that bad But it's essentially stripping the entire world of free will and why do you keep saying back to normal the Shinobi world had been at each others throats the whole time and very cautious of each other the previous 3 wars show that there was no such thing as peace like the Akatsuki existed because of the previous conflicts Naruto's era was just another one of those regular periods of tension ninjas were sent out doing their duties but we're at risk of rogues and ninjas from other nations killing them to say the peace at the end of the Naruto series was normal is dead wrong
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I'm very sorry but I struggle to understand half of what you wrote, since there is not a single punctuation marks. Still. Those ~50k dead shinobis didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. They killed a few white Zetsu's, but then they were swapped by "fakes" and sustained a lot of damage that way. The show made their sacrifice look pathetically inconsequential, when the names characters could mow through dozens, sometimes thousands of Zetsu's. As for peace and such... you are contradicting your previous comment, so I don't even know what to tell you
@hoifzf
@hoifzf Жыл бұрын
@@mahistvalso to say the deaths didn't matter is an outside looking in you take account how the war affected the people of my hero but people in the Naruto world were affected too also that's named characters so of course they're different but the Zetsu army were a threat to alot of average Shinobi where's that bias going to my guy
@wake6000
@wake6000 Жыл бұрын
​@@hoifzf not really, there's literally zero consequences seen to society from the war in Naruto, whereas MHA handles it like the aftermath of an actual war.
@hoifzf
@hoifzf Жыл бұрын
@@wake6000 that's because the war was the climax of the series and they do a whole time skip at the end just cause my hero is still going on like.... matter a fact it's late right now I'm not in the mood
@wake6000
@wake6000 Жыл бұрын
@@hoifzf that's the point, they didn't have to stick in the timeskip as soon as the war arc ends. They should have actually spent time to show what the recovery of the war looks like, it's fallout and oh, some actual consequences for domestic terrorists such as Sasuke and orochimaru would have helped too, instead of a fight that literally destroyed even more of the village.
@simon-peterwilliamson2412
@simon-peterwilliamson2412 Жыл бұрын
Except it's not actually true. Your dream is a lie while your body rots and you become a zetsu
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
So what? For you, your live happily ever after
@simon-peterwilliamson2412
@simon-peterwilliamson2412 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv well it varies for person to person. I wouldn't want to live a lie. Some may like it but not me
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 Жыл бұрын
​@@simon-peterwilliamson2412but how would you know it's a lie?
@mha9034
@mha9034 3 ай бұрын
Can someone please tell me why people think mha is mid, bad show and hate it? 😭
@mahistv
@mahistv 3 ай бұрын
No clue. I think MHA is very good (not without issues, naturally), especially in the character development department of both heroes and villains. I haven't seen S7 yet.
@mha9034
@mha9034 3 ай бұрын
@@mahistv Must watch season 7 It is so amazing
@tienluong9648
@tienluong9648 Жыл бұрын
Kaguya as a final boss conceptually make sense. It's just that it was executed terribly with literally zero build up or hints so that makes it feel like she comes out of nowhere
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I agree with the lack of build-up for sure, but not the final boss thing
@theduelist92
@theduelist92 Жыл бұрын
Shigaraki disintegrating half a city was bad and all but, to quote an old meme, every1 gangsta until Madara drops a FUCKING Meteor on the Battlefield. And some1 still gangsta until Madara drops ANOTHER FUCKING Meteor on the first goddamn meteor.
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Hehe. good meme
@arkaan.zomei2023
@arkaan.zomei2023 10 ай бұрын
Development peaks characters? How is midnights death good where was the build up and midnights death literally did nothing and they moved on after 2 episodes fights and it just doesnt make sense why the hell are they mad to the heroes what did they do the dabi reveal is ass its the most obvious thing wow hes endeavors son how unexpected twice's death why just why its all because dabi cant fucking finish the job he literally got hawks pinned and it wasnt emotional at all shigaraki went through all the development just to be a fucking pawn again all for one talking shit just to get his ass kicked again
@mahistv
@mahistv 9 ай бұрын
1. I agree with moving on too quickly, but that's how the war works. Most people die in a trench where nobody sees them with no build up. 2. The same reason why people get upset when Police does something they don't understand (watch some Donut Operator, it will explain) 3. Dabi couldn't kill Hawks because he needs to cool down before blasts, unless of course he used brute force, which I think is still troublesome given his weak constitution. 4. Still, Shigaraki went through more development than most shonen villains combined.
@arkaan.zomei2023
@arkaan.zomei2023 9 ай бұрын
@@mahistv dabi killing the second strongest hero at the time would be amazing for the villains but they threw that away they could've turned the 3rd strongest hero to their debateably strongest nomu ever but they threw that away shigaraki going through good development but losing all of that for what all for one to be the main villain again also ruining all mights conclusion wow how amazing and comparing middnights death and nejis as neji actually had a character while midnight was shallow af naruto moved on from nejis death because of hinata
@hiddenleif6854
@hiddenleif6854 Жыл бұрын
you just had to take the lazy dig at Boruto huh
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Maybe, I don't care that much for Boruto
@ultimateeyad5410
@ultimateeyad5410 Жыл бұрын
First comment #1
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
Lets go!
@hoifzf
@hoifzf Жыл бұрын
Did you say villages continued to work together?...I think you forgetting some details cause until the 4th war the Leaf and Sand were the only alliance the villages were never in a 5 way partnership the war arc of Naruto was a different time like did you see quick they went to make Boruto I don't even think Kishimoto had the same level of breathing room felt like the guys in charge just wanted Naruto to end for Boruto MHA doesn't have that problem I honestly think that y'all overinflate how seemingly bad Naruto war arc is
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I've meant that people continued to work together as everyone lived happily ever after like DECADES of animosity and mutual harm didn't exist. Remember the beef between Cloud and Leaf? What about stolen Byakugan? You can't possibly tell me that everybody became friends just cause some blonde teenager said so and we survived a world-ending event. There will be tension and would have like to see that addressed.
@hoifzf
@hoifzf Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv .... I still think that's an oversimplified way to see things during the 5 kage summit everyone was angry with each other accusing and taking shots at each other In the start of the war people had animosity still plus Naruto entered late in the war it was the kages with their speeches and resolve that also kept them going I'd say rewatch the cannon parts of the war arc to see what I mean but hey your choice And I'm sorry too I think a discussion would be better but you know All I'm saying is your giving the war arc way too much shit As for Neji... what did Midnight do exactly?
@The_Oracle_58
@The_Oracle_58 Жыл бұрын
​@@mahistv I say comparing the War arcs isn't valid in the first place since they were both trying to do different things. Whereas Naruto's was the end to the series MHA's was a set up for the final war arc that's happening in the manga as of this date. So I'd definitely make a video comparing Naruto's War and MHA final war arc later down the line for a better comparison narrative wise. I do feel like you also over simplified Naruto's things and overhyped MHA's. Both Midnight and Neji are under utilized characters whos impact on the story are fairly little which Midnight having almost no impact and Neji had some impact in Part 1 and non in the second like most characters in Naruto unfortunately
@zonnodon163
@zonnodon163 Жыл бұрын
Nah, it's worse than you think
@hoifzf
@hoifzf Жыл бұрын
@@zonnodon163 explain
@kararrington66
@kararrington66 Жыл бұрын
Naruto>mha
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I'll wait until I see MHA fully. Cause I like it a lot, but for different reasons.
@BlackHat-v4j
@BlackHat-v4j Жыл бұрын
Seriously how he liberation arc was horrible I hated it like the hero have such a big advantage over the villains it’s not even fun why would you make the underdog of your story the main villain it just doesn’t make sense and then even though the odds are stacked against him shigarki still managed to humiliate them like what are you doing if you wanna write a story don’t make the main villain. Work harder than the main character give his character better development within much shorter time span and don’t make the main villain the one who is always has the disadvantage Who wants to watch a story when the heroes have such a large advantage and the villains are the under dog and the villain still do better because they actually use what the main character should be doing and getting stronger when it counts twice death was more beautiful then anything else like I was sad for twice death and happy for bakugo to die that’s not good writing
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I don't understand what you are saying, I'm afraid...
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 Жыл бұрын
Wait why cant the villain work harder than the heroes? It's just as much as Shigaraki rise as a villain as Deku is as a hero
@Argonuat574
@Argonuat574 Жыл бұрын
Mha still is trash and is worse then velma
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I disagree, MHA is pretty good
@felipekane9611
@felipekane9611 Жыл бұрын
Mha is pretty good, most of the hate comes from the fandom, Deku crying (which is a weird reason to hate since it’s more realistic for the main character a 16 yo, that went through so much not to cry, and he still matured over the seasons) or from the adaptation of season 5. You’re just coping now
@pirateluffy01
@pirateluffy01 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv why should i care about your opinion
@rop4996
@rop4996 Жыл бұрын
​@@pirateluffy01 i mean, why are you watching this video if you don't care about his opinion?
@pirateluffy01
@pirateluffy01 Жыл бұрын
@@rop4996 For the Legend Madara Uchiha ofcourse
@db4517
@db4517 Жыл бұрын
Mha 😂 s just a Naruto rip off the 4th shinobi war is alot more destructive and killed alot more we literally see mountains of bodies
@mahistv
@mahistv Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it's a rip off. It has borrowed and improved some ideas.
@db4517
@db4517 Жыл бұрын
@@mahistv nope just a rip of with a shit fandom
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