Parents withdrawing kids from classes about LGBT relationships - BBC Newsnight

BBC Newsnight has uncovered evidence of parents removing their children from school to avoid them learning about LGBT relationship classes - soon to be part of the Department of Education’s curriculum. Subscribe to our channel here: goo.gl/31Q53F
From September 2020, it will be compulsory for schools to teach lessons about LGBT relationships, often called relationship classes.
Teachers -who have found themselves between government policy and angry parents - have received such severe letters and threats that they’re now being encouraged to pass them onto anti-terror agency, Prevent. Katie Razzall reports.
Emily Maitlis is joined by Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley, Jess Phillips.
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[@guitarsenpai420]

Glad there are still parents standing up to this weird sexualization of children.

[@amerigovesgucci4042]

Yes

[@guitarsenpai420]

@@ilikesoup7081 thanks for making the argument I never made. 🙃

[@amerigovesgucci4042]

@@ilikesoup7081 yeah but they should not know about gay people's existence yet

[@IITJII95]

@@ilikesoup7081 "Desmond is Amazing" "Libs of Tik Tok" "Drag queen story time"

[@trillionmindfulintentions2132]

@@ilikesoup7081 p3d0s exist as well. Love is love they say

[@Wolfways]

I've never yet heard a good reason why schools need to teach this to kids.

[@ibroplatin4915]

I know right

[@nialljones3227]

They exist and are a part of society. And we don't want another stonewall

[@Wolfways]

@@nialljones3227 Lots of things exist that we don't teach kids about. No idea what you mean by not wanting another stonewall.

[@Katiepembroke]

People if understanding and accepting isnt taught at a young age about all sorts then all form of discrimination will continue

[@Wolfways]

@@Katiepembroke So you think kids should be taught about, well pretty much everything? Should we teach kids about all kinds of medical conditions so that they don't think some people they see are "weird"? Also, discrimination will always exist. Learning about it will not stop it, just as it hasn't stopped racism. Kids are accepting of everyone already. That's why we have to teach them to stay away from strangers. They have a limited time in school to learn things that will help them in life, not to learn about a small part of society.

[@ruth4395]

I agree 💯 with parents to protect their children.

[@amerigovesgucci4042]

Yes

[@binod7623]

but Islam is homophobic though

[@worldofsorrows5736]

This is pathetic they wants to shove their agenda

[@bluester5184]

protect the children from what ur acting like gay people are hitler

[@moumouhigi5837]

@Joseph ballin yo wsup comrade

[@amin9018]

Not supporting someone doesn't mean hating them.

[@kayshawn.]

THANK YOU

[@m4rc3l0fl0r3s]

But, does it really matter? You can keep hurting people even if you don't hate them.

[@amin9018]

@@m4rc3l0fl0r3s that's life. You can't get everyone to support you. Being hurt about not everyone supporting you makes you a snowflake.

[@m4rc3l0fl0r3s]

@@amin9018 I'm not chosing to get hurt because some random group doesn't support me. It hurts because you're not stopping other homophobic people from hating LGBTQ people. That homophobia can lead to harassment, bullying, verbal abuse, misinformation etc. It's worth trying to change some people's minds and especially teaching new generations that being LGBTQ is okay.

[@amin9018]

@@m4rc3l0fl0r3s didn't I say not supporting doesn't mean hating?

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

Of course BBC are showing loads of Muslim people to start a race war. I'm British English (white) and there are plenty of big KZbinrs who are American, English, Scottish, etc, who think you shouldn't teach kids about anything sexual until their teen years, not 4 year olds. I agree.

[@donotusethisnomoreqxre]

Thank you this should only be talked about until you get to yr9

[@michaelhughes1719]

Agreed!

[@binod7623]

but Islam is homophobic though

[@hammywammy1896]

Frrr

[@andybray9791]

Christian Concern is the smarter version of daily mail

[@thomasarthurmaj]

You can always tell who journalists agree with by who they interrupt and who they don’t.

[@kajetus0688]

d r i v e f o r e v e r starts playing

[@SaraudaLua]

You are born with a sexuality. You are born with an orientation. As adults we are the ones who should teach children not to discriminante others and especially feel free to learn about themselves with no guilt. If you only learn about heterosexuality and do not feel it within you, you believe you are abnormal. That feeling attraction or love for someone who is the same gender is ugly or wrong. You begin to self loathe, to try to change yourself, you violate your own nature, your orientation, you force yourself into a sexuality just because someone told you that was how it's supposed to be. It can lead to teenagers and adults taking their own lives out of depression or feelings of not belonging. The pain of not feeling accepted or not accepting ourselves can be too much, even unbearable. Hiding topics and promoting discritimation at schools is NOT protecting children. It is repressing some of them and raising the rest of them to have prejudices and taboos over the topic of sexuality. Protecting children, for example, at schools, would be telling them that kissing Snow White or the Sleeping Beauty as They sleep is hugely problematic and should be considered violation of a vulnerable person without consent. Hungary should definitely think this over. Please watch this shortfilm: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZemi618lNCFd9E

[@artinvartanian4631]

@@SaraudaLua If some kid has a problem regarding his sexual orientation, his parents or the shool should get the kid to see a psychologist to deal with, intead of holding the normal kids hostage to sexual deviants that want to teach my kids that perversion is a good thing. You did say, "It is repressing some of them", yea and so what!? What about fat kids? They don't have feelings? Why is it that YOU people seem to think that your sexual orientation problems should be a priority over other kids who experiece depression and everything else because of other things? What is it that you people want, a pat on the back and praise for being gay? Snow White or the Sleeping Beauty, are you kidding me? In case you haven't noticed we don't live in a catroon world. What the schools should be teaching about is things like not taking candy from strangers or helping some stranger look for his lost puppy. You think that your sob stories are gonna get people to feel sorry for you, but all you're doing is getting people pissed off with your whiny BS. And yes, it is BS, because this isn't about discrimination, it's about indoctrination.

[@SofiaParker777]

@@SaraudaLua lol

[@binod7623]

but Islam is homophobic though

[@luvthetruth4ever955]

It is the parents' rights to teach children values, morals and religious beliefs. You want religion to be private, so should one's sexual life. Allow the little children to remain innocent and make their own decisions when they become adults. These schools have cross the boundaries of parental authority.

[@m4rc3l0fl0r3s]

So when kids learn about a heterosexual couple it's okay, it's love. But when kids learn about homosexual couples it's not okay, because it's sexual(?). You know heterosexual people have a sexual life too right? But nobody wants to show that to kids. Now, the same with homosexual couples, show them the part where two people of the same gender can love each other, that it's good, and that'd be all. There is no need to teach them more for them to learn to respect.

[@kirarimomobami5215]

@@m4rc3l0fl0r3s atleast we don't go around parading in the streets about who we f*ck or identify as

[@jordanho890]

@@m4rc3l0fl0r3s mind you some people have religious beliefs that don't allow it, so why do you keep forgetting about it, flat out its the parent's responsibility to teach their kid what is right and what isn't, imagine if a gay couple heard that religious beliefs criticizing and condemning lgbtq were being taught in schools, oh the outrage

[@elora179]

@@m4rc3l0fl0r3s Who cares what you think? Our kids are not yours.

[@m4rc3l0fl0r3s]

@@elora179 It should be YOUR responsibility to raise them to be good people, not homophobes. Also, this is more about what schools teach children than what you do with them. Don't miss the point.

[@bunkerbill]

There is not enough popcorn in the world.

[@loriswafford4672]

Bunker Bill You read my mind

[@lo-fi-meditation]

Your brillinat comment should have more up votes. 👍

[@factorylad5071]

There is not enough chutney either it is our dury not to squander it.

[@Femmeaesthetic]

I'm bi and I'm not religious but how come lgbtq peoples view are ok but not religious people???? not saying I agree everything what religious people say but I'm seeing a lot bias here.

[@kitty2527]

It not bias, we follow the bible, Muslim follow theirs. It not OK for us so we should have the option to opt out. That all we want.

[@sta5011]

I hope one day god comes back and says fuck it

[@andybray9791]

Finely someone who’s alright

[@pastorbri]

because religion is wrong,. Thats why.

[@mahdou3608]

Relegious beliefs don't bring money to pharmaceutique companies.

[@englishgoddess8238]

If lgbt want to teach our kids miss then why are you callings religious people extreme? Why is your view ok but people who believe in god are wrong? Btw my sister is in lgbt community and also says this is not ok to be in children’s schools

[@coffin6513]

Pov ur a lgtb orphan

[@pastorbri]

maybe she was never bullied by the homophobia that was taught in other schools?

[@andybray9791]

@@pastorbri u do realise you made the Poland law and justice party more popular, with ur bias. We also saw the alternative fur Deutschland become popular in 2017 for similar/different reasons but then they dropped in polls (even deeply religious groups left them)

[@pastorbri]

@@andybray9791 not fussed on maans laws or made up ones.....assume u are.

[@andybray9791]

@@pastorbri ur not aware, shows how ignorant you are

[@theodorecarter6601]

I support the parents who pulled their kids out of school. Such indecency is taught nowadays and we have to accept it as normal. Disgusting.

[@marthastott9478]

homophobia is disgusting

[@cum242]

U are disgusting. In poems if a love story between woman and a man is taught so why can't we teach them about a man and a man or a woman and a woman

[@modernrebel9175]

@@cum242 because i don't like gay so I will dictate the lives of people who don't affect me

[@Humble_0321]

People love throwing the homophobia word around

[@christlivesevangelism9824]

@@marthastott9478 do you even know what homophobia means?

[@mothermary3200]

The teachers should be there to teach, English, maths and other intellectual subjects. They should not interfere in any form of sexual relationships at such an early age. Children will accept differences, it is the adults who cause the trouble.

[@allmendoubt4784]

Most teachers don't, most teachers are wise enough to side step the ludicrous requirements of the National Curriculum, or at least make sure the kids are mucking about while they deliver something iffy.

[@thejokerduck777]

Exactly Mary

[@kingshiny918]

Then why are children taught that men love women

[@Niviari23]

@@kingshiny918 their not-

[@kingshiny918]

Niviari then why all over stories in literature classes are their love stories between men and women, and in sex ed class only lessons are given for heterosexuals

[@xpliking]

We need to protect the kids from the madness of this era god knows who's pushing this agenda

[@pastorbri]

we need to protect kids from the homophobic lifestyle actually.

[@Twilight24682]

pastor brian Not when they are little wait until they are older and not without parents permission

[@pastorbri]

@@Twilight24682 but ur ok with kids knowing about heterosexuality even when they are little??? How come?

[@IITJII95]

@@pastorbri heterosexuality is just the norm. Of course children will see it because they have parents. I never had a lesson on heterosexuality in schools. Just the basics of how my tools worked. and you know something funny? I asked why it got hard sometimes. The teacher rather than going into detail told me to ask my parents. Chil-dren don't need predators like you getting in there head

[@pastorbri]

arcturian starseed replied: "pastor brian your question make no sense heterosexual is the process of life while lgbt is created by people choices you must accept the reality that lgbt is created by human mind" PASTOR BRIN; Ur comment makes no sense at all in any way.....Many heterosexuals can not process life so by ur logic they must also be condemned, let alone them who chose not to make a baby too.....clearly homophobia is created by people as a lifestyle choice in which to hate others with and call their hate holy and just. No wonder homophobia is now a mental disorder, ask for some therapy old bean!

[@jameslevitt3000]

Looking at this “whole” comments section , the public do not find it acceptable for this agenda to be pushed to children.

[@pastorbri]

we liked it when we could be homophobic eh

[@Jwebb-zh9gj]

Exactly. The govt’s whole strategy about this has been, “most people are pro-homosexuality why arent you”? Almost like coercing. That was never true to begin with. Most of us don’t agree with this foolishness about teaching about homosexuality in kindergarten. And no, as a citizen with my own rights I don’t HAVE to agree with anything.

[@pastorbri]

@@Jwebb-zh9gj I bet ur ok teaching heterosexuality in kindergarden though. Assume you agree with the satanic homophobic agenda yes?

[@Jwebb-zh9gj]

@@pastorbri parents have the right to say, no, my child doesn’t need to learn about 2 men playing grab ass. If that’s hard for you to understand tough shit.

[@pastorbri]

@@Jwebb-zh9gj but bet ur ok with kids being taught heterosexuals playing about them doing grab ass, talk about double standards, and if thats hard for you to grasp, tough shit babe.

[@TheKellie03]

Children are being indoctrinated to sexual issues as early as four years old. In my opinion, that is entirely too young; too young to even consider sex. At least wait until thirteen-fourteen. Some teenagers aren't even mature enough to contextualize it. Let things happen naturally as they do. Just my thoughts.

[@docdee770]

I didn't have my first sex ed. class until I was 12 years old in the 7th grade. Having it that late in life never caused me to question my sexuality or anyone else's sexuality. And no one in my generation was ever confused about which restroom to go to during recess. This, LGBTQ stuff is a bunch of "BS" that is merely an attempted dawn of a new era for the gay community. Gays want to make homosexuality a part of humanities social fiber as it was during the Greco Roman era. Gays are seeking the heterosexual communities approval to live the abnormal life that they've decided to embrace and blame God for.

[@andybray9791]

That’s why Meloni 🇮🇹 partly got elected because Of this

[@pastorbri]

that is not what is happening

[@docdee770]

@@pastorbriThese Perverts won't make freaks out of our children simply because they're confused about their sexuality.

[@Kiz-0]

They not even teaching secularization, did you even watch the video? Maybe that's why children are so retarted now in days. You people don't want to teach them anything in life.

[@afadafad2136]

Parents should protect their kids from grooming

[@muslimgirl4342]

The reason i disagree with the teachings of lgbtq lessons is because these people are shoving morals that contradict the religious beliefs of many people it is not the school’s job to impose controversial morals upon these children. Their job is to teach english, science, maths, social studies etc.

[@m4rc3l0fl0r3s]

1. Science and history usually contradict some religious beliefs. If we don't want to contradict anyone's beliefs, then we are inevitably gonna skip some facts. Also, many religions already contradict each other, so it's impossible to teach kids in a way that everybody has their beliefs approved. 2. LGBTQ religious people exist.

[@illvminatvs3194]

So what if those religious beliefs entail the deprivation of someone's human rights, like that a disabled person can't attend school or women should not work. Should we suddenly compromise and do that just to satisfy that person's religious beliefs? The principle of democracy entails the sharing of rights with someone you might find personally repulsive, this does not mean people can use religion as an excuse to have rights and deprive someone else of their rights at the same time.

[@pastorbri]

homophobics did this and I bet u was ok then with it.

[@Simplyjustme9]

I would pull my children out of school.

[@pastorbri]

why? in case they were educated better than you?

[@hopebgood]

So you're a homophobic bigot eh Nasima? What if I went on some racist web site and said I'm against inclusivity and anti-racism? How would you feel about that? I'm gay. Do you hate me just cos I'm gay?

[@IITJII95]

@@hopebgood I hate you because you don't keep to yourself and seem intent on spreading your way of life to children. 👌🏻

[@Simplyjustme9]

@@hopebgood I don’t hate you neither do I know you but this new culture that’s been invented by the west is sinful & a disgusting disease that’s spreading like another covid. People of Lut (as) in his time people were practicing homosexuality and God punished them all looks like history is repeating itself . Tbh I’m not bothered by what that gay people do what bothers me is that they put in schools which has nothing to do with education, it’s a evil and sinful and I’m not going to stand for it .

[@KerrBox92]

"if they're age appropriate" it's 2022 and they're feeding this crap to kindergartners

[@kill3rclown690]

r u serious?? thats ridiculous

[@pastorbri]

its not craap, we teach heterosexuality to them why not others?

[@Twilight24682]

pastor brian Sex education is not taught until later on when kids are older and so should this

[@gandalfthegrey2592]

@@pastorbri kids shouldn't be taught about sex, gender period.

[@pastorbri]

@@gandalfthegrey2592 and yet we are ok doing it in heterosexual terms in schools, why is it ok then and no other sexuality?????

[@Mill835]

PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN, HOME SCHOOL, FIND OTHER PARENTS WHO HOME SCHOOL, THE DEVIL IS ALIVE AND WELL IN OUR SCHOOLS!,

[@kill3rclown690]

r u ok?

[@pastorbri]

yes and he wants u to teach kids homophobia

[@IITJII95]

@@pastorbri or just the basics like Maths and English. Without the mandatory dildo class like in America.

[@pastorbri]

@@IITJII95 So we shouldn't teach kids about the world they live in and keep them as thick as you you mean? Do u miss the days schools could be teaching hate and bigotry like in the old days old thing...well, welcome to 2022, times change......move with it. We teach kids heterosexuality so why not other orientations too? You can't have it all your own way anymore....sorry!

[@IITJII95]

@@pastorbri you're not taking this seriously. If you want to have a civilised discussion then pack it in with the insufferable amount of pointless insult's. It makes you look immature and unable to hear differing views.

[@davidmckelvey2601]

Why can't the teachers just teach kids "don't discriminate against people who are different from you" and if a child does have same sex parents and a kid asks about that they just say "some people have two mommies or two daddies". There, is it that hard?

[@pastorbri]

they do

[@thesagaofdarrenshanfanchan793]

@@pastorbri No they don’t. My 10 year old boy the other day came home telling me about how they had learned that the same two genders could have sex. And I was furious at them for teaching without my permission. It does happen

[@elora179]

@@thesagaofdarrenshanfanchan793 i agree. Teach tolerance, not force acceptance e

[@cupacartoon991]

Based parents for protecting their children.

[@Jungleali]

True

[@mayesjoyessha527]

Little children don't need to be taught about this and as you grow up, you eventually figure this shit out anyway. What's the point of having a specific class?

[@noname-zk1gc]

There's never been a heterosexual relationship class, students have NEVER been taught about the normal nuclear family. Kids don't need to learn about relationships, they are kids! LGBT community has literally hosted Mix Kink with Kids, a parade consisting of naked men and women twerking and grinding, wearing kink and fetish based outfits. Kids are being invited to drag shows in 18+/21+ gay nightclubs, and they plaster a "family friendly" net label to avoid complete public outrage. Just teach kid's the core subjects; math, science, english, social studies, etc, You don't need to teach kids about sex and relationships, that is the job and priority of parents. Teachers cannot do the basic job of teaching, there are that teachers abuse and mistreat students all the time. Focus on teaching kids about school, not identity, sex, or relationships.

[@noname-zk1gc]

@Awyatt In elementary school, my school had sexual education classes. Many students were left confused and curious. The amount of sexual harassment and sexually charged jokes severely increased. I faced lots of sexual harassment which frustrated me. A physical education teacher can't go from teaching PE to teaching kids about human anatomy and sex. It's the role of parents to provide sex education for their kids. Parents need to step up and have conversations with their kids. Kids are entitled to feel comfortable expressing their interests and concerns to their parents. It is not the role of educational institutions to teach students about sex.

[@andybray9791]

Ur a hero

[@noname-zk1gc]

@@andybray9791 🙏🏾

[@andybray9791]

@@noname-zk1gc the pastor Brian is stuck in a bubble. Viktor orban said the right thing by saying we freed homosexuals (which was the right thing to do) but the sex education isn’t about homosexuals. Parents should decide how to teach, esp even against being exposed to straight explicit situations retrospectively. Not many know those Of modern sexuality would rebel against their own ranks by quoting equivalent “at high school yes but not primary”.

[@majabelk6940]

Good Job Parents

[@rollerskeezer3325]

if you want to teach this degeneracy is ok then you must fully disclose the risks of drug induced rape, incontinence, lonliness & early death, prostitution and destitution etc etc

[@pastorbri]

how so when these don't affect kids? LGBT does.

[@rollerskeezer3325]

@@pastorbri these are the end results of such a risky lifestyle, forms of selling, from Greek 'porneia' to sell, or, prostitute. Research Alfred Kinsey, the United Nations promoted sex ed policy, based on Magnus Hirschfeld's work

[@pastorbri]

@@rollerskeezer3325 yes homophobia is a very dangerous and risky lifestyle.

[@rollerskeezer3325]

@@pastorbri yes i know, you are an absolute travesty of a human being pretending to represent Christ yet judging me where no such authority was granted to you but is forbidden in fact. Legtimate fears, not irrational ones, learn English before engaging with a master of it, ye Luciferian footstool

[@allthingsnewlife]

​@Roller Skeezer good point. why are they 4 times more likely to attempt suicide... anything that is being used against its naturally designed use will break. The technical term for using something against its nature is a perversion, every child is curious about their own and opposite sex but it does not mean they are not straight. What opened the eyes and desires to this temptation? Its not your fault but woe to those who intentionally plant those seeds to form an early neural pathway that can only be satiated by forbidden fruit. You have never seen a 3rd world survivor be suicidal because of gambling addiction debt or porn or fast food addiction because they are not exposed to it! The agenda to put an adult bedroom choice in front of children and ENCOURAGE it is not healthy. What you do with your adult genitals or girls underwear is your private business - not to be paraded to children. My oldest wanted to be a dinosaur when he was 3, should I have took him to a surgeon for permanent transition?? See the ex lgbqt community testimonials who escaped the suicidal end and found identity. Why only this community being taught in schools etc what about if they identify as a Goth and have no other Goth community to affirm them at every turn, "yes you are a Goth" "its ok, be proud to be a Goth" "affirm your whole identity to tell the world you are a Goth" "lets immediately get you pierced, grow your hair and dye it black" Let kids be kids, protect their eye & ear gates, give them wholesome choices a plug can only work with a male and a female part. These natural paths are for our protection ...so we don't break in the Mental Health Crisis Epidemic. ❤ in love to every one of you, for you are deeply loved 🙏

[@FreePizza007]

Manipulation. Look at one social media post and paint everyone with the same picture. Well done bbc

[@imkkasha7788]

This is so gross why are they imposing if we don't want to participate .....pls we need some morale justice in this.

[@pastorbri]

HOW IS HOMOPHOBIA A MORAL ISSUE?

[@abcun17]

I want my rights...but your rights are interfering with mine...so they don't count...moral of the story...what happens when we treat rights as being selective instead of universal...

[@just_very_queer]

Everyone wants right & gay people are people. Like they have kids & they want that their kids to kn that they to have representation

[@just_very_queer]

@Woody Rooper well children go to same school , they also need to kn that there parents also have representation on spectrum & they also need to know our history too . of how we got here & how much this means

[@saakib9426]

@@just_very_queer so the whole world must change and adapt to how a minority are? How about the minority find a way to change and adapt to how the whole world is, has been, and always will be!

[@saakib9426]

@@just_very_queer in this case maybe in schools all that should be taught is that the LGBT community, and all the people/families that come in it JUST EXIST IN THE WORLD. Then if you would like to integrate and have some social representation in the spectrum TEACH THEM YOUR SOCIAL MORALS AND WAY OF LIVING AT HOME.

[@just_very_queer]

@@saakib9426 yeah world need to adapt for better . There are still gay guys who are getting beaten for being gay & we are still struggling for equal rights mister. If straight world is already shoved down on a gay kid constantly and has been told of that being gay is wrong. Trun the book around & ask yourself if you were straight , you were the minority in world where everyone is gay & if I told you the same thing you "better adapt to our way" . You are minority . Think it through mister . We already have adapted to world once before living in shadows in our dystopia's . We decided to come out after AIDS epidemic. It was time we did so we lost entire generation to a late & homophobic response. We have Childrens now who are prime minister's , judges & a long history . We are now so diverse that we have political spectrums in our community. Our community is not based on family decent, we just exist.

[@maccagrabme]

I feel that the equality act has not been implemented democratically as people weren't consulted on this and should have had the ability to have a say on this or to lobby their MP before this came into law.

[@Anthony1uk]

The Equality Act came into effect in two stages in 2010, and then 2012. It was suggested for 4 years before that. It could have been lobbied at any of those times, nobody did.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@@Anthony1uk why would anyone disagree or lobby against equal rights?

[@Anthony1uk]

@@unicorntomboy9736 Exactly. And yet now it's in effect Muslims are claiming why weren't we consulted. It was in preliminary for years. Nobody challenged it at all. The Equality Act 2010 goes against their religion as it means they are not allowed to hate on gays.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@@Anthony1uk The law of the land goes above anyone's religious beliefs

[@pastorbri]

why should homophobics have a say though

[@koninginvictoria]

Schools should not be teaching this at all. Why is it prioritized? Why are resourcing going towards this? It can be taught more generally.... that people should be nice and civil to eachother.... without focusing specifically on those with different sex lives.

[@andipandi5641]

to a large extent it is as you say it should be - it DOES NOT GO INTO ANY OF THE MECHANICS OF SEX.. maybe in order to not freak out some paranoid and conservative people (at least some of them rather acutely aware that taxes are already being spent on murdering brown skinned people abroad) it would maybe have been wiser at this stage to have missed out reference to any explicitly same sex couples from these classes..

[@oiseau_libre]

Victoris J, OMG, Exactly!!! Making a separate class for that is BEYOND ridiculous. I'm all for tolerance and being nice and compassionate to each other, but this is a little bit of an exaggeration.

[@m4rc3l0fl0r3s]

It's not all about "different" sex lifes. If that were the case, then we shouldn't be teaching kids about heterosexuality either, because it's still a "sex life".

[@pastorbri]

because we used to teach homophobia was good is why

[@thesagaofdarrenshanfanchan793]

@@m4rc3l0fl0r3s Yea kids have to learn about straight couples since they need to learn about things like the reproductive system and consequences of six which might lead t9 a girl getting pregnant dumbass

[@ash2398]

Leave kids alone!!! They're too young! They'll understand everything when they're older

[@meliora99]

can you say the same thing about racism?

[@SouLCharles1]

​@@meliora99 Yes

[@easymoneymusic1076]

HOME SCHOOLING RULES...

[@redimi2s]

Lets teach our kids about what real family is between a man and a woman, before this corrupt world take over our children

[@kill3rclown690]

yes they need to stop shoving this stuff down our throats..

[@pastorbri]

how when not everyone is heterosexual?

[@zippymufo9765]

@@pastorbri They don't need to learn about gay anal sex at age five. That's pedophile grooming.

[@pastorbri]

@@zippymufo9765 yes not bright are you as THAT IS NOT what is being taught!!!!! Do you have a therapist?

[@andybray9791]

We need to get rid of Sarah Hewitt Clarkson

[@TWsBooksorcation]

the fact they would teach us this rather than to benefit ourselves in the future is astonishing

[@klinxium8627]

idk about you but my middle school had a mandatory business class. i like the idea of lgbt being taught in schools

[@jordanho890]

@@klinxium8627 what if the parents don't agree

[@abba4844]

Parents fully reserve the rights to inculcate their children. U can’t contradict ur religion with a government agenda curriculum. U can teach them respect but nothing more.

[@SaraudaLua]

You are born with a sexuality. You are born with an orientation. As adults we are the ones who should teach children not to discriminante others and especially feel free to learn about themselves with no guilt. If you only learn about heterosexuality and do not feel it within you, you believe you are abnormal. That feeling attraction or love for someone who is the same gender is ugly or wrong. You begin to self loathe, to try to change yourself, you violate your own nature, your orientation, you force yourself into a sexuality just because someone told you that was how it's supposed to be. It can lead to teenagers and adults taking their own lives out of depression or feelings of not belonging. The pain of not feeling accepted or not accepting ourselves can be too much, even unbearable. Hiding topics and promoting discritimation at schools is NOT protecting children. It is repressing some of them and raising the rest of them to have prejudices and taboos over the topic of sexuality. Protecting children, for example, at schools, would be telling them that kissing Snow White or the Sleeping Beauty as They sleep is hugely problematic and should be considered violation of a vulnerable person without consent. Hungary should definitely think this over. Please watch this shortfilm: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZemi618lNCFd9E

[@abba4844]

@@SaraudaLua Hungary voted in free and fair referendum, so in that context democracy brought out that law which is the wish of the people (we can’t intervene in a pure democratic process). in relation to the education aspect, i believe respect should be taught not exposing children completely to something that contravenes their rights, Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion and realistically it is not acceptable in some religions. you can’t absolutely trample on one right in order to satisfy another, that’s the dilemma. in another example some people are born with more or less than ten fingers but sadly you see in every health/biology class we are all taught about 10 fingers only. social norms are held on a majority scale.

[@relaxingsounds1386]

@@SaraudaLua ok groomer

[@pastorbri]

if ur religion teaches u to hate LGBT its time to find a new religion.

[@zippymufo9765]

@@SaraudaLua You sound like a groomer, sorry. Actually you sound like those NAMBLA people who argued that children had a right to have sex with adults. "It's important for their development!" 😂

[@FreePizza007]

“We don't need no education We don't need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teacher, leave them kids alone Hey! Teacher! Leave them kids alone!” - pink Floyd kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6SWZqdoraukmrc

[@wor53lg50]

LOL,, Nothing like the floyd to bring us all back down to earth...you missed.."OI, teacher"...

[@warrenllewellyn144]

I doubt whether millionaire liberal Roger Waters would agree with using his lyrics in this context. His kids went to private school, so they didn't have this problem. When he wrote 'we don't need no education ', he just meant state education.

[@NAprincess324]

Why is this even a debate? Let ppl choose what they want and don’t want for THEIR kids. Even if someone is secretly homophobic so what there are ppl who are closet racist and sexist it may not be right but As long as they don’t bring that outside their homes it’s none of our business you cannot FORCE someone

[@val13c59]

I don’t want my kids to be taught in schools that same sex is ok. Just like I don’t approve of schools teaching young children about heterosexual education at a young age. It’s my choice to Not give consent to the teachers.

[@val13c59]

HOMOPHOBIA?? They need a different word for not accepting same sex. Homophobic is not the word. I sure don’t “Fear” lgbt, I just don’t approve of same sex.

[@NAprincess324]

@@val13c59 absolutely!!! I am so tired of that!! Why do we have to be perceived as homophobic because of that? I don’t want that for my children either I even put it down when asked which holidays I wanted my children not to participate in. I wrote pride month and any other lgbt holidays and activities. I love everyone but I don’t want my kids thinking that’s ok either. Why can’t ppl just accept that?

[@val13c59]

@@marthastott9478 because they are still children, and they have their teen and adult life to learn about any sex., and to accept it or not accept.

[@NAprincess324]

@@marthastott9478 my child is already facing some struggles due to remote learning and stuff with the pandemic. Many children are behind, the last thing I want is for my kid learning about something so insignificant as that right now. She is already confused with certain subjects she’s already learning, right now that is a waste of time. I also believe two men and two. Women together should exist as long as it’s consenting adults however it’s not something I want my kids learning. I also don’t want her learning certain things about the Bible slavery and polygamous relationships. I just feel same sex marriage along with other things are not appropriate at this age. When she’s older we’ll have that conversation but for now I know what’s best for her.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

We don't hate you but we won't support you either.

[@mathisr.44]

Facts.

[@amin9018]

Based

[@animazingandmore4530]

I think what they are trying to say is that they don’t want their children to be taught about lgbt (for any reason such as maybe they believe it is too soon or they want to teach it themselves or they just don’t want them to learn). Also this comment imdoesnt mean I support them or don’t support them I’m just trying to explain what I understood.

[@pastorbri]

We don't hate you homophobics either but we won't support you either.

[@fharrison3011]

it will be the muslin VS LGBT i knew it, this will be a saga show

[@standfortruth4568]

@J and M i think fry would go for bottom ......... don't you

[@standfortruth4568]

@J and M yes those that like to talk s**t also like to play in s**t so they both would have fun

[@erzan]

Muslims are LGBT too you fool.

[@kavic1234]

@@erzan If they want to live they wont admit it. Tall buildings, Muslims and LGBT don't go well together.

[@gethcreator751]

@Honour 1418 so they should. Islam has no place here

[@matta5160]

Personally I think It shouldn’t be taught in school. Lgbt matters are something people have different views and opinions on just like abortion, capital punishment etc. just like schools shouldn’t be teaching religion (or they should teach it in a neutral way that doesn’t favor one religion over another) they should leave this as a family matter and up to the parents to raise their children in accordance with their religious and cultural beliefs. The LGBT extremists have turned this country (the UK) into a joke and their shenanigans could actually become counterproductive (ie people who were previously accepting or tolerant will become angry and intolerant)

[@low_quality_dust_papayer]

The schools in my country all teach islam but there's always a few non Muslims in class (most of which are Christians) and we dont force them to learn it, For them an islam lesson is free time

[@incupert4431]

@@donovan6206 No one is instilling fear and hatred of anyone.

[@illvminatvs3194]

So what if the children of those parents end up being gay, should they be excommunicated because their parents don't "agree" with their child's innerant immutable characteristics? I'm so sick of this agreement bullshit, sexual orientation is not an opinion, you cannot disagree with homosexuality anymore than you can disagree with a man eating a cookie because *you* personally are on a diet.

[@pastorbri]

it should be taaught though

[@andybray9791]

Meloni is a real woman figure unlike Jess Philips who understands people

[@optimalintelligent8090]

Parents is the in charge, we people are in Charge. Wake up

[@pastorbri]

homophobics were in chaarge and now ur not.

[@johnnyjohns7622]

If you have the right to add LGBT classes in school, parents have the right to withdraw them from those classes and go elsewhere. You can’t force LGBT propaganda on them. Sexuality is not a matter for children to be exposed to. And the foolish counterargument that they are “forced” into heterosexual norms is nonsense. We let the kids be kids, and 95% of them are heterosexual naturally. Not because they’re “exposed” to heterosexual norms.

[@pastorbri]

homophobia though is not normal or natural.

[@IITJII95]

@@pastorbri you breed homophobia by your own actions. You are the most entitled cry babies I've ever met. So quick to throw a tantrum when you're not allowed near the children.

[@hlog3902]

I would too. I stand with them. If you support it, you teach your children in your home.

[@incupert4431]

@@donovan6206 They do

[@hornerfarah2282]

@@donovan6206 why not ??

[@angcil88]

@@donovan6206 not everyone agrees with the alphabet+ community beliefs too 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@donovan6206]

@Link Oh please enlighten me on your amazing grasp of science thats supports your religious bigotry

[@elora179]

@@donovan6206 I do, lovey. And you are assuming this person’s race and religion. That is a violation of hate crime law, I don’t appreciate you racially stereotyping someone and categorising by your internal prejudices.

[@Kenanalasadi8989]

لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله لقد وصل الغرب الى قاع تحت ظلمات فوقها ظلمات وظلمات

[@TheEnigmaProductions]

I’m taking my kids out of public school

[@a86lyo39]

I stand with the Muslims 100%

[@skye9849]

Thank you!

[@Markk4785]

Sexuality does not need to be taught to students at Primary School. It is catering for a premature sexualisation of children. By all means, teach kids about the physical differences between male and female but let them decide in private which of the sexes they are attracted to at their own pace, preferably when they are much older. It is disgraceful to see MP’s masquerading this perverse and highly inappropriate practice as an exercise in equality when all it is doing is corrupting a child’s natural development.

[@pastorbri]

thats not what is going on and maybe u need these classes more than the kids.

[@Markk4785]

@@pastorbri So what is happening then?

[@pastorbri]

@@Markk4785 we don't want kids to be educated do we

[@IITJII95]

@@pastorbri what's happening in these classes according to you? Because I've seen a lot of secret footage taken by students of what's really being taught in these classes.

[@bergmancarlericeman2008]

@@pastorbri You take literally everything seriously times at least a quintillion. Please shut up. Everyone has different opinions and ideas.

[@mrdoodle4458]

You tube seem to be clamping down on these videos now as it seems increasingly difficult to find new uploads. Bots and algorithms doing overtime.

[@Anthony1uk]

Yes they are, videos that make Muslims or migrants look bad are being taken down. Its typical leftist propaganda tactics. And this is why Muslims act like this as they know they can get away with it and will be protected.

[@ZONE-fj8ly]

@@Anthony1uk You mean like how the US and UK government were trying to recreate history about how they didn't tormented African slaves and Native Americans by their European settler ancestors? (kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHOvhKSmhZZkhZo) And so history repeats itself with the same propaganda by funding terrorism to make regime changes on foreign countries to suit only their agenda than it is about the rights of the people.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

yeah

[@oleggorky906]

One of the reasons I detest the BBC; they are trying to marginalise these Asian parents for objecting when even British, American and Australian etc white people also object to four year old children being taught about even same sex relationships, never mind same sex relationships. I noted that they were even using the word ‘extremist’ as a description for those who object ... for ffs! And the spokeswoman on the programme says that we must accept it because it is the law. So the state decides now what people can think about the issue, eh?

[@deborahbarnes8377]

people should home school their kids

[@indie_princess]

It's only gotten worse unfortunately

[@Bogtrott]

Much worse

[@jayo3074]

I commend these parents. It's too young to be sexualising children like this. Its up to the parents to decide what they should be taught

[@illvminatvs3194]

So what if their kids are gay and those parents withold from telling their kids about their own inerrant nature? That will create a lot of pyschological damage far down the line. People who are confused about their feelings and attractions need these resources, maybe not in first grade but definitely in high school and junior high

[@jayo3074]

@@illvminatvs3194 how is any of that the schools business?

[@obvsrah]

@@illvminatvs3194 no. I would never want my child to ever learn abt it

[@Smorans]

I couldn’t give a tiny rats ass about religion, I’m an atheist. However, I strongly disagree with children being introduced to these subjects at such a young age, it’s not appropriate, they cannot fully understand these complex concepts. As we all know, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

[@blackghost6265]

It's not complex to just to be aware gay people exist. Kids are not idiots and should be taught so there tolerant of the world .

[@Smorans]

@@blackghost6265 understanding the concept of what gay is and what it means in full is indeed complex. Im bisexual, but there’s no way on earth i would be able to explain that in a clear and appropriate way for primary aged children

[@blackghost6265]

S Moran I would you just say to kids some people have one mum and some have two and some have one dad and sometimes two and some people like different gender from there own and some like the Same

[@Smorans]

@@blackghost6265 hence my comment that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Being overly simplistic can be confusing to a child in the long term.

[@blackghost6265]

S Moran it's not tho

[@lisx9688]

It’s up to parents to teach about relationship! I don’t need my kids to be taught this bs

[@pastorbri]

yes u do

[@PREPARE-WORLD]

@@pastorbri why should children be forced to learn this corruption?

[@inesarif8497]

@@PREPARE-WORLD being gay is corruption 😂

[@inesarif8497]

Tbh growing up my mum and dad taught me that people can like the same sex or like the opposite, I wasn’t taught about any sort of relationships at school even straight ones

[@factorylad5071]

I saw a woman walking a dog round the supermarket with a blanket on it , embroidered with support dog and a lefty social worker in tow. I wanted to stop and ask them what the thinking was but I was in a rush and did not have time.

[@mshl_7278]

nahh Im home schooling my kids

[@ModernPict]

Heres how to save millions, do what i do, i teach my son to be kind to everyone....job done

[@defencebangladesh4068]

@@Anthony1uk lmao

[@stefan2222x]

Even to pedophiles and murderers?

[@beaterbikechannel2538]

....and into the arms of the transgroomers he will run.

[@ModernPict]

@@beaterbikechannel2538 doubt it, we live in Scotland! He's been well warned about THEM and has risked being expelled from school because he will not lie about gender/sex....doesnt mean u cant be kind though

[@splintercast8092]

The way I see it there are two scenarios that parents should be able to choose. Either schools provide age appropriate LGBT lessons to help combat homophobic bullying; or, schools don't provide these lessons but take a zero tolerance approach to homophobic bullying.

[@val13c59]

Can we please stop with the word Homophobic. It’s not a phobia. Just because I don’t accept it, does not mean I hate or fear the person.

[@splintercast8092]

@@val13c59 Well, go and take your complaint up with the English language then. It's a word, it exists, and really no one cares if you think it's an appropriate term or not.

[@theskiller2217]

@@val13c59 True

[@stopmotionstupidity2440]

@@val13c59 And COOKies are actually baked. Does it matter what the word is? It conveys the message it needs to

[@fidboi2715]

@@soappygoodness I'm not homophobic but you seem to completely miss the point of what he said. What he is is what you'd describe as homophobia, his only argument is that the term is inaccurate and describes something else. I am not homophobic, but I don not believe this should be thought to children before puberty.

[@briovanmerlin2408]

I agree that kids should be kids.

[@pastorbri]

but NOT homophobic kids.

[@IITJII95]

@@pastorbri kids are not being taught to hate. Let them grow before filling there heads full of your kinks

[@gabrielbrewster4806]

@@IITJII95 honestly, kids ARE taught to hate and discriminate against gays. And this "lesson" is learnt very early.

[@kizombeiro8130]

Love is love, except if I don't like your opinions. Then you're a bigot.

[@obvsrah]

whats that gotta do with the video we dont want lgbtq to confuse kids ty

[@isoaqua5825]

Dividing the poor ... Works every time

[@paulgibbons2320]

Who said they are poor ? Rich school or poor school. They don't compromise on their religion. There are wealthy LGBT. There are wealthy Muslims. This is about Liberalism finding its limits.

[@trevorthomas5366]

Traditional families are healthy

[@emotivelyy_]

4 year olds don’t even understand sexuality lmao

[@pastorbri]

no but they understand bigotry if we teach them early. Do u prefer that?

[@IITJII95]

@@pastorbri I'd prefer my children avoid your kind than being immersed in it. You will never lay your hands on my child.

[@bringbackfreedomeofspeech]

And that is absolutely a parents right (which i have noticed they are having taken from them slowly but surely) to what is put around their children. People confuse what the term love is.

[@beaterbikechannel2538]

It's great hearing an 8 year old say "there are two genders"

[@ValBlanc19]

Totally off topic but anyone know where Emily Maitlis' suit is from?

[@paulgibbons2320]

Pound shop.

[@theun-personing5674]

Primarni 😂

[@leilarhymeswithsheila1344]

You brought them in; you deal with it.

[@Danielpitt1467]

Leilarhymeswithsheila exactly, Britain is a weak, its there fault all these bloody homophobes r here

[@LittleMonkey425]

Mack Elmais :that homophobic, it’s not a sin to be gay, I can easily debunk that

[@curtcinabi3187]

@@Nardos553 In their heads not supporting is hating for some reason

[@Nardos553]

@@curtcinabi3187 sorry, I wrote that comment when I was a homophobic.

[@bohemianwriter1]

As if RW lunatics and christo-fascists ever gave a damn about human rights.

[@lucashadi7544]

Families are in charge of their kids not the law.

[@pastorbri]

did u like it when we could teach kids to hate like in the good old days?

[@Irene_Hwang]

Why does she have two mums? because her father has two wives, that is normal.

[@NoobNoob1986]

Pity they didn't spend any time teaching about normal healthy relationships.

[@tonybennett4159]

I'm a teacher. We do, we teach about all relationships. Usually we speak about loving relationships to the children. Is that a problem for you?

[@NoobNoob1986]

@@tonybennett4159 so you teach about incest? You probably should not be teaching if you are including all relationships

[@tonybennett4159]

@@NoobNoob1986 Why on earth would you suppose that we would teach anything unlawful? Did you bother to think about what you had written before posting?

[@NoobNoob1986]

@@tonybennett4159 you said all relationships not me champ. And just so we are super clear if incest is legalised next year you'll be happy teaching about it because its legal?

[@tonybennett4159]

@@NoobNoob1986 I think you're bright enough to know what was implied in my original remark. I don't deal with hypotheticals, and anyway, I doubt that legalisation will happen, because its difficult to know what part coercion may play in such an arrangement.

[@peterproleet8141]

That is why freedom of eduction is so important because government is demanding what should be taught.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

Teaching about different orientations is an objectively positive thing

[@IITJII95]

@@unicorntomboy9736 "Desmond is Amazing" "Libs of Tik Tok" "Drag queen story time" You're a bunch of groomers

[@pastorbri]

better than when homophobia was taught

[@peterproleet8141]

@@pastorbri I'm not aware that homophobia was taught broad scale in the last 50 years. But the Left screwed up all the defenitions so you mean with 'homophobia' not kneeling to the rainbow flag or not having gays experiences in schoolplays or math questions? If a religious school want to teach that gay marriage is wrong they should be able to. Postmodern education has become all about making the world better and that is not what education should be about. That is what politics should be about.

[@peterproleet8141]

@@unicorntomboy9736 depends on how it is done and when. If it is done politically or celebratory it is wrong. If it is done to early it is wrong. Public education is a public matter and the majority decides what is should be taught. there is absolute no consensus on Woke ideas so they should not be part of education until that is the case.

[@NairAthul]

Why are these Islamists talking about traditional family unit? Islam promotes polygamy. For a community where their offspring goes to Syria to become militants, or get married off at a young age, these people have some nerve.

[@inayahquintanilla1635]

it's allways the ones who never opened the quraan who talk about muslims

[@NairAthul]

@@inayahquintanilla1635 I don't need to open the Koran. You certainly don't open the Torah before talking about Jews or the Vedas before talking about Hindus. Why do you demand we do indepth research into the nitty gritties? I don't care about why you do the things you do.. I judge you purely based on what I see. And for the matter, I'm well versed in the history of Islam and Islamic regimes. That is more than enough to understand it.

[@pin98vdl84]

@@NairAthul exactly a thing a stupid person would say. Lol. Ofcourse when I am going to critisize a hindu religious thing I am going to at least read about it. There is a reason polygamy is allowed in islam (when a lot of men die in war etc)

[@pin98vdl84]

also it would still be a nuclear family only 1, 2 3 or 4 separate families with one dad.

[@abumuhaiminul9818]

You name tells everything....Mr. PaJ*eT🤫

[@cresenciocarreon8140]

Parents are in the right don't teach your children this garbage. Parents are supposed to fight for their children's soul's.

[@voluntarism335]

teaching kids lgbtq stuff is child abuse

[@Stacy572]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@IITJII95]

@@Stacy572 that's all you got groomer 👌🏻

[@Stacy572]

@@IITJII95 Groomer? Lol you’re pathetic 😭

[@IITJII95]

@@Stacy572 call me what you like. It doesn't change what you are.

[@dontworryyoullbealright6949]

Ight, homeschool it is.

[@MultiSuperGuide]

Lol, snowflake

[@IITJII95]

@@MultiSuperGuide another kid you can't abuse 🤍👌🏻

[@deanok306]

Can't the BBC find any clips of the FAR RIGHT protesters?? Or do we just have to take Philips screwhead word for it??

[@latchdoorlatch996]

Deano k when backed into a corner they lash out and blame the far right everytime

[@doug5101]

She needs to go on radio...

[@sandytricker594]

I sent an email to my kids school and they ask me to come to the office ,my friend went first and had a huge argument with the headmistress. I went with my husband, we explained why we dont feel comfortable for them to teach our kids about jigsaw pshe, to iur surprise, the headmistress said they can teach this and is good for young kids to know their body and gender . She even said there are trans kids in the school who use same toilet as girls in the school,i was very worried and couldn't hide my emotions, i told her my mind but she didnt want to hear,she called me names for expressing my views and concerns over my kids and threatening us she will call the police on us and sacked us from the school. Now weve made a decision to homeschool our kids as we believe, they are not safe in the hands of a headmistress who dont care or see anything wrong with young kids age 3 going learning adult stuffs . Thats my story . There are other mums who are concerned but cant do anything

[@kevinton7023]

Why Social Sciences is more important than STEM related subjects ?

[@ayanhassan8547]

because algebra won't help you cope in modern britain

[@Mike_5]

The Curriculum is decided at a national level in the UK in line with the laws and regulations that are passed by Parliament who are the elected Government of the people it really is that simple ....

[@vercoda9997]

Lost Hobo Ah Yes. We Media. Everything is Always Our fault, because We are secretly controlling the world because... because... because..... reasons. Never mind that The Media represents a wide range of views, that All of us editors and our journalists follow our own individual path for the most part, and that The Media is only one aspect of how people get information, and how people define their own interests and moral compass - there’s Always someone like You ready to blame Us for pretty much anything.

[@BatTaz19]

@Lost Hobo I bet you have a view on the moon landings. Who are "they"? You seem to know so much about them, yet you didn't even mention their name.

[@nodruj8681]

Imagine bootlicking the government after larping as revolutionaries for so long hahaha

[@zippymufo9765]

@@vercoda9997 You're all owned by corporations and do what you're told. 😂 It's really to late to claim journalistic purity in a age where both sides see journalists as lackeys of monied interests.

[@russellakm399]

Religion is not taught in school because its against lbqt right therefore lbgt shouldn't be thought in school because its against religious beliefs. As simple as that.

[@mswahilix]

Democracy without freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion and the consent of the governed?

[@CookieMangler]

Stand back, priests, your replacements are here! They’re shouting the same motto “Don’t tell the parents.” Keep cameras in the classroom that any parent can view online at any time. 🙌🏻

[@SiCrewe]

7:45 Jess Philips: The law is too unclear. 9:30 Also Jess Philips: It's nothing to do with legislation.

[@andybray9791]

She’s one of those sjws (ppl who are easily deceptive , manipulative or worse)

[@iqraclasslessons899]

They are still not happy that people accept that people are gay, but they want to force people to promote it. Isn't that called enforcing tour own views on others.

[@miya3215]

Well if they don't want their kids to learn abt it then that's ok but if the school really wanted some kids to learn abt it why not make a club that teaches abt it and the kids that want to learn can join it

[@TaniaSofiaM]

That's actually a starter idea

[@BatTaz19]

The Left preaches that we should respect other cultures and traditions. Unless it's in conflict with their ideology! Let kids be kids.

[@vercoda9997]

And what about us gay kids? I knew 40 years ago that I was gay when I was just a kid, so why shouldn't I have been presented with relevant information? At what age would You present information on LGBT+ issues to kids, then? 8? 10? 12? 14? 16?

[@mre1995]

@@vercoda9997 When they're old enough to ask for it of their own accord.

[@pastorbri]

let kids be homophobic kids u mean?

[@allmendoubt4784]

History as a subject field has had more arguments than most about the ethnic, cultural and political content delivered as a unified Nat Curric subject. History teachers compensate and add their own takes on delivering it; exams merely require a standard narrative agreed to the will to the English majority in the UK, kids are then exposed to a variety of teachers in the field and learn to notice opinion. It serves as a great subject for speaking, writing and debate (a democracy without a balanced history curriculum is not a democracy). In early Key Stages is it safely kept in a distant past, although problems arise when you teach about the 20th century wars, though the poor advice given to primary teachers on the NC history is to blame, not all primary teachers are historians with the dexterity to realise what implications arise from different contexts (my child came home at 8 years hating German's leaving me a very pastoral task in acceptance and progressive opinion, perhaps I should have protested at the school, but I just accepted his teachers were just primary teachers attempting to address a stupidly written government guideline). Why are children being taught 'society' anyway, who says what society is in the first instance and what if I don't agree? That as well as political and cultural stances are taught by parents and local environment in correlation to the world at large. The social science of societal studies is a joke a non extant entity, and a minefield of problems that truly do not help a child to succeed in the overall school objective - finding a job. Do they teach guardian, foster, residential carers, or aristocracy, the 99% or alcoholism, kleptomania, pedophilia, murder and drug abuse in families? Not the more extreme for sure, but at best these issues will arise in content taught - stories, bland unbiased kids stories, trusting that the longer path of learning will eventually produce a balanced empathic individual. Physical and social education is extremism included on behalf of modern Orwellian disasters. Schools never taught that it was wrong to be gay or trans gender. Adults learned about this area of society in society and the force of the fact that it is a real consideration over - reached the negativity of the playgrounds and workplaces. PSE, what a joke; just extend history to 16, teach kids how to evaluate opinions as individuals and they might just return decent politicians as adults. I am still learning about society and culture as a teacher, I endured religious schooling and graduated without prejudices in general, I deliver lessons in an unprejudiced way and include materials for discussion across the range of social states and ideals, with an equal delivery and accept all opinion should it be properly evidenced and supported. I should add that I do all of this in fecking China before an indocrinated mass of silent students knowing full well that government student spies are among my pupils. Don't make schools think-right camps, make them useful for keeping kids off the street, healthy, socialised in their locality and enthusiastic about learning about the world - job done. Otherwise you are giving the message to a child that their parent is wrong for holding a view or being a specific social group (i.e is the LBGT curricular offset by lessons on religious intolerance, totalitarian ideals, Marx or Merkel? Terrorist or freedom fighter, (think IS or suffragette whichever you prefer). These topics are for KS4. KS 1 - 3 must and will be fluffy, so the adults protesting have it very half arsed to think it's indoctrination. So, it can only be said that political correctness and idealism is again ruining the good will of school teachers. Leave teachers alone to do a very hard job, they are the experts - and defend any teacher who's opinion is within the law - above all question the law, and take your protests to your bloody MP. Teachers, themselves must be wise, non confrontational and open to debate.

[@giovannaliviana505]

The "traditional family" dates from after World War II. Wow, sounds really traditional. Prior to World War II, the "traditional family" was the extended family, what would have been known among the early medieval Irish as the "derbfine."

[@temp0rand]

Were children being taught about nuclear families back then?

[@giovannaliviana505]

@@temp0rand Irrelevant. However, the idea was promoted, at least implicitly, by Hooverism's nonsense about "rugged individualism." Teaching about _acceptance_ of *Scientific fact,* however, is hardly the same as preaching anti-Solidarity propaganda.

[@BatTaz19]

I bet you have 'daddy issues'.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

Here in South Asia we still have extended family

[@jacobodom8401]

Incorrect. The idea of man and woman being in charge of the household dates back far longer than World War II. The difference between nuclear families and the families back then is that they’re spread out. In olden times you had multi generational houses, nuclear families don’t, that’s the only major difference.

[@stephaniesparkles]

It’s work enough for them to learn how to read, now you want them to learn about sexuality? Poor youngins, so much for their developing minds, isn’t it the parents responsibility anyway? Basic math, science, history but psychology and calculus are for more advanced students, what is the measure to know if they are ready even...and all over the world this is going on, wow.

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

If it's not too much to teach children that people have a mom and a dad, then why is it suddenly too much to teach them that some people have 2 dads?

[@yourdailydoseofreality3219]

Capybara Because no one has two “dads”, deranged psychopath.

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

@@yourdailydoseofreality3219 My friend has two dads, they're quite the happy family. I do think that you're confusing biological father as a relational father. Everyone, has a biological father and a biological mother. But the schools aren't teaching biology in those lessons, that comes at a later date, they are doing lessons on familial structure. So it makes no sense to bring biology into it, when they schools aren't going over that yet. You can have two men taking a parental role over a child. Which would make both of them dads. To father is a verb, two men can father at once, both can be the father. There are plenty of people that I would describe as 'not having a dad' because their father has left, but I doubt you'd call me a deranged psychopath for that.

[@yourdailydoseofreality3219]

Capybara “they’re quite the happy family”. Two sick egoistic perverts being “happy” at the expense of an innocent child, who has been deliberately deprived of the most basic human right - to have a mother and a father. You are a cruel animal.

[@m4rc3l0fl0r3s]

Heterosexuality is a sexuality. Kids can understand that. They even play to "mommy and daddy". I can't see why learning about two ppl of the same gender loving each other is any different. Love is love.

[@princesspumpkin4296]

It just as bad in America too, I don't have kids yet and fear to have them not whole pregnancy thing but the people cruel in this world that won't allow kids to be kids. They teach kids that their too young to understand it and teach hatred that increase our dividing us instead of being all together.

[@clashofspirit4899]

We have a purpose coming in this world which our holy books guides us to do and we have been trying our best to following it from our past generations. Many generations will come and go but what god has said us is pure and perfect he is all knowing he knows what’s good and bad for us he is our creator. We as a society time to time our mentality will change one time we were against homosexuality now we support it. Now we are against incest later within few years we will support it but the word of god will remain the same. people will change but god message will remain same he knows better so we should believe him and support his message. Lgbtq is an agenda widely spread and everyone should fight against it they are destroying families what is the need for them to teach straight kids about lgbtq after this kids won’t be able to enjoy their childhood the same way.

[@JohnAllman]

The Public Sector Equality Duty? To have due regard to the need to foster good relations? That is what she thinks she's doing? It's not working, apparently. Time for a rethink?

[@IftikharA]

A Muslim is obliged to respect and tolerate those who are different. Virginia has an age-appropriate "family life" program that starts in grade school & continues through middle school. Every family is informed ahead of time what subjects will be covered--not just puberty, sex, & diversity but also drugs, bullying, & a number of other subjects. All parents have the choice to opt out, & another activity is already in place for these kids. Sounds like this school could really benefit from a common sense solution like this. As it's young children were talking about I think the parents have every right to opt out if they don't have the right to opt-out where is The freedom this isn't freedom if you're forced. It's not the schools charter to promote lifestyles under some misguided "acceptance" motive. I'm pro human rights. I'm not pro teaching children to be drag queens. If that's narrow minded so be it. I don't care what a person does in their private life, but under NO circumstances do they have the right to propagandize for their choices to other people's children against parents wishes. They don't need to be taught anything specific about LGBT. As long as they are just teaching the children to be tolerant and accepting of other people’s differences then I don't see an issue, the real problem comes when the teaching becomes preaching. My son is 20 and his generation don’t care if you are straight, gay, trans, to them it is just part of life. Many schools these days seem to intent on 'raising consciousness' of all the lifestyle options that are out there. But are the kids any happier? I'm sure that a vigorous re-focusing on the 'Three Rs' would set them up far better for the lives they have ahead of them. I'm all for schools teaching children about sex and relationships, whether they be heterosexual or same sex. But not at primary school age. This is nothing more than a liberal political agenda, and one that Mr Moffatt is no doubt personally invested in. The parents are absolute right to be outraged over this, regardless of their religious beliefs. Too young for this whatever faith. Just let them be kids before the world ruins them. The LGBT community have been trying to shove their lifestyle down ours, and our kids Muslims are obliged to respect and tolerate those who are different. throats for years. Their abnormal, and perverse lifestyle is one which I feel is based on a chemical imbalance in the body and/or brain. I'm glad to see another more aggressive group is proving louder. Any human being with even the slightest sense of self-preservation should be against it. I understand that LBGT equality is not taught in Iranian or Saudi Arabian public schools. It should not be taught anywhere least of all to young impressionable children. Man + woman=children is the basic building block of all society. Anything else claiming to be equal is a farce. “Common sense” It is parents’ duty to teach their children about these issues and about sexual morality in general. In fact the Dept for Education’s own guidance issued in February 2019 acknowledges the role of parents as a child’s first teachers. It actually states that schools must work closely with parents when planning and delivering these lessons. However, as we’ve seen in Birmingham and elsewhere, some heads are riding roughshod over parents’ wishes. If pupils were being taught just that then it might defuse the current conflict. However, evidence shows that children are in fact being taught that LGBT activities are equally valid choices and even that they are acceptable within Islam. This goes beyond toleration of differences and challenges the very essence of the Abrahamic religious belief that sex should take place within marriage and only between a man and a woman. The government has consulted parents in drawing up the new legislation. That is true. However, the government has chosen to ignore their feelings. There have been two public consultations. Over 23,000 responded to the first one between 2017-2018 with only a small proportion (page 35) saying primary school children should be taught about gender and sexual identity. In a second consultation (page 33) launched in 2018 only 29% of people supported teaching LGBT in schools as opposed to 71% against. The UK is a signatory to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the Convention on the Rights of the Child and the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, all of which uphold the fundamental right of parents to teach their children in line with their own religious and moral convictions. Most parents would like their children to go to school and learn the three R’s, not sexual choices. They are protesting peacefully against a violation of their fundamental rights as parents. To demonise them as homophobes is unacceptable and inaccurate. To the contrary, the extremists are those who insist on ramming their beliefs down everyone else’s throats. Equality is not the same as uniformity. We respect your right to be different under British law but that does not mean we have to accept or affirm your beliefs, just as we don’t expect you to affirm our view that adultery is a sin or that sex outside marriage is wrong. IA www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

[@andybray9791]

Marriage is for man and Woman together. Btw I don’t even eat pork products esp with I’m round my Muslim friends who are wonderful. Major religions are under threat from wokeism

[@kristinmorrow]

Entrust the "government" with "educating" children. Yeah, no

[@yourdailydoseofreality3219]

Capybara You are a sick pervert. Stay away from children, criminal!

[@sugarsmoke3772]

@@Capybarrrraaaa It is though....

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

@@sugarsmoke3772 Depends if you read the actual Bible, or one of the fakes that have been edited as a means to control people. As for the Koran, yeah, that's pretty clear that it is.

[@sugarsmoke3772]

@@Capybarrrraaaa What do you even believe in?

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

@@sugarsmoke3772 Quite a broad question, I assume you're asking religion. I don't subscribe to any religion. I've taken a look at them all, and they all disagree. It's impossible for me to pick one to follow.

[@D4n1t0o]

Eh. I'm as English as they come, not even slightly Muslim, etc. etc. but... I do believe in the parent's right to determine what's right for their child. That's a natural right. It seems wrong to mess with that.

[@AlanWattResistance]

@J and M Not much different than secular schools teaching kids to despise 'homophobes' and 'climate deniers'. You're not without fault.

[@shinigamitoryuu9574]

thanks to a bill that was passed after this they, rightly so, had that ability taken away from them because the younger they learn the better and easier it is them not to bully such people later on in life and if they happen to develop in a similar way then they wont consider themselves wrong

[@pastorbri]

so we should force homophobia on kids like the good old days?

[@D4n1t0o]

@@pastorbri Homophobia is the natural state, look at history. We had to be taught to not be it. Not forced to be it.

[@pastorbri]

@@D4n1t0o Homophobia is NOT natural nor normal. Natural means a part of nature. LGBT exists in all animal kingdoms but homophobia exists in just one...the human.

[@dc7339]

let the children decide when they become adults. We don't need people to influence and confuse sexuality to our children. This is the work of the devil.

[@32nkdhdhekqki]

You cant bring up gay relationship without bringing up sex kids ask questions and we shouldn't be forcing this trash on them at such an early age its ridiculous its grooming and its wrong to tell parents that you know whats better for there kids than them back off

[@NosyFella]

Cancelling the lessons will not change the fact that non-heterosexual people continue to exist. Always have, always will. You're just just leading the children into ignorance. Bad parenting.

[@alexanderthegreat7213]

The question is what makes someone gay? It's not just to love someone of same gender. I love my brother's, mates etc who are all male so now that I love them makes me gay. That's how a child will understand this stuff. What makes someone gay is to have sexual feeling for same sex that's the difference that is the boundary from being straight and being gay not just to love the same sex person but to have sexual feelings. Now when they teach this crap to little kids them kids will want to know am I gay because I love my best friend at school. Confusing the child and then at that tender age they want to know if just loving someone doesn't make you gay then what does? Now we get into sexualising children. This is all part to destroy religion and traditional society

[@m4rc3l0fl0r3s]

@@alexanderthegreat7213 You forgot about romantic attraction. That's also the difference. And just as we only teach kids about romantic love and not sex when talking about heterosexual couples, we should teach them the same with homosexual couples. There's no reason why they should know about sex to respect people who aren't straight.

[@Elizabethkingoo]

I miss my childhood days when rainbow only meant that God was smiling with children after rain .......😭😭😭😭 now kids don't know that about rainbow they know LGBT 🙏🙏 please God protect our children 🙏

[@TaniaSofiaM]

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