Conservative Parents vs. Liberal Teachers | Middle Ground

[@JackGranahan]

I’m not even a teacher, but for some reason Kenyon saying that teaching 3rd and 4th grade was horrible because everyone thinks their kid deserves special treatment feels really relatable😂

[@datadoesdorian]

That was one of the best moments in the episode 😂😂

[@dirtyblackman555]

This is so funny

[@yiannev]

As an ex 3rd and 4th grade teacher I can’t tell you how much I agreed with him. It sounds ugly but you just have to be in that position to understand what these parents put teachers through

[@KCal1213]

It is hard to treat everyone special so I try to just treat everyone with respect.

[@l0verofallthings]

@@user-ue4xz2jg4n LMAOO

[@Squishymalloww7]

As someone who works with kids these parents need to realize their kids are already exposed to these “topics” from other students and social media.

[@victheepony]

louder for the people in the back!!!

[@SamanthaMacariola]

TRUTH

[@beneficentnature9356]

That's irrelevant to the question at hand

[@kennedy3682]

@@beneficentnature9356 not irrelevant at all, it's completely true

[@jeremysmith9694]

And so teachers should continue to peddle bad ideas from media and peers?

[@ethan41435]

When that woman said “I hope you can teach all kind of children, conservative and liberal”.. that just kinda sums the problem up in a nutshell.. no where else in the world would children be defined by political alignments 😂

[@stephenmymomtoldmenottoput1459]

You have to understand that America's political culture is the defining factor of what it means to be an American. Someone isn't called Anti-French for a political opinion, but Americans refer to one another as Anti-American all the time. The United States doesn't possess a shared peoples or long history, but it does share a political creed. In other words, the country's an anomaly from a historical standpoint.

[@emilevanrensburg8094]

Lol I didn't even notice that at the time.

[@TastyLaserCakes]

"no where else in the world would children be defined by political alignments" ? Have you been to several other countries to qualify that statement? Happen REGULARLY in Brazil. Same as it does here, esquerda vs direita, and what curriculum these politically aligned families and children agree on.

[@kaineshigaraki5253]

Yeah… but, there are kids with conservative parents teaching them conservative morals. These kids are going to school where they get shunned by students and worse by faculty because of their conservative beliefs. Beliefs that they have been taught to follow by their parents. Vice versa. There are kids that come from liberal households following liberal morals. They also go to schools, they are also treated differently if they are in a conservative school. The true issue is that schools are becoming more liberal leaning. They are focusing on teaching from a liberal perspective. Which it wouldn’t be a problem if there weren’t actively shaming people who are not liberal. There are many jokes about creationism. Creationist are idiots for the most part. It’s discouraging. It’s unkind. It frankly wouldn’t be acceptable if the tables were reversed. That’s the true issue. Schools don’t have a true neutral ground. Biology is taught at schools but not creationism. Biology is “important.” Creationism, you can learn more about that on your own time outside school. Which wouldn’t be too much of an issue but then LGBTQ+ is “important” for students to learn, when before it was in the learn-in-your-own-time outside school category. While I agree the US might be the only place where kids are labeled by their political POV, other countries have mastered their indoctrination process of the youth. [>

[@87Runner]

@Hardcoreleftist not if it's a public school that deals with all walks if life.

[@ERRORCODE694]

“Who establishes the boundary” - “the law.” That line goes hard

[@timmytime0925]

The only issue with it is insinuates that before gay marriage was legalized in 2005 that gay marriage was bad

[@jordanucantneverknow2884]

Yeah the legal law is not a proper standard, lest we forget 200 years ago it was legally and culturally ok to own black people

[@damebesos8497]

It was legal to own people and to marry children, at one point.

[@cruisevod]

no, as a parent, no.. it absolutely does not "go hard".

[@marthals89]

​@@timmytime0925the comment the law is meant to establish proyection of civil rights. Yes many individuals didnt have civil rights before, but that doesnt imply they were "bad" before, it's an emphasis on civil rights progress, the evolved protections

[@cardelf6159]

I would like to see a conservative teachers vs. liberal parents episode

[@MySwagg93]

Unfortunately public schools are controlled majority by liberals…

[@missmollyc]

that would be interesting considering conservative teachers are generally a lot more rare than liberal teachers. i think that the environment of education not only attracts a lot of already liberal people but causes people to become more liberal. so conservative teachers are generally very strong in their beliefs and i’ve found they often end up teaching at private religious schools because they end up disagreeing with the generally more inclusive environments of public schools (especially in cities/blue areas)

[@livelaughloathe]

I grew up in TX and this was more accurate to my school experience lol

[@youmadornahhh]

Can conservatives be teachers? They seem to have an issue with facts.

[@Beatness121]

Would be a bit harder to cast but that sounds like a chaotic episode would love to see it

[@victheepony]

Assuming parents are going to teach children about sex, pregnancy, and birth control is a bold assumption

[@Peace.Beyond.All.Understanding]

Especially when those parents have no healthy relationship with their own sexuality, have all sorts of shame and suppression, judgment and fear from dogmatic religious upbringings

[@jeremysmith9694]

Well maybe we can start by discouraging everyone except parents to teach it and instead encourage parents to teach it. Maybe realizing parents are the first people to teach it, not the last.

[@karikling6751]

@@jeremysmith9694 Parents already are encouraged to teach it, but most Christian parents(and maybe other religions, as well) still don't. Encouraging them to teach it isn't going to solve anything.

[@azayzelderegis1655]

So many parents don't, and so many pro-lifers think abstinence-only sex education is the answer, even though that has been factually proven to make matters worse and increase the number of abortions. Pro-life people do not care about fetal lives, they just care about virtue signaling. It's so disgusting.

[@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774]

@@karikling6751 "most" is there proof to this statement?

[@ascent8487]

The college professor who used to teach kids, has so completely had it with ignorant parents who have no idea what they’re talking about.

[@Mrcleanfrfr]

I can see why, they all sound like Candace Owens uneducated self

[@chloeb3987]

😂😂😂😂 he was so unbothered I love it

[@mckenna5272]

FR LMAO he was so tired

[@theramzieshow7654]

But a professor must know all data can be flawed and be refuted. He believes the science but a smart person always questions the science which thus leads to more research

[@catsmom129]

@@theramzieshow7654 Sure, that’s why you look at bodies of data, not just a single study. You can read papers that examine many different studies - i.e., meta analyses and systematic literature reviews. You don’t just throw up your hands and say, well data can be flawed, so let’s dismiss it. It was a fairly short video, so there wasn’t time to do a deep dive on it. We don’t know what kind of research the professor has done.

[@yourfavlilz27]

As a student, sex ed is nothing like how the parents are describing it. The kids are learning this from other students or social media.

[@donatalaniyonu8270]

Literally like wtf

[@DJ26Yankees]

We're using FLORIDA as the standard? Lolz... better choices? What part of Florida? Maybe key west? I live and teach public school in Florida. These parents are so wrong.

[@DJ26Yankees]

Mason is crushing this for the teachers. He's intelligent and measured and understands reality.

[@LDk4816]

Okay, that makes a lot more sense. I have young kids, so not anywhere near this, but some of this feels waaaay too out there.

[@yourfoodforthought]

Sex Ed is 2+2=4. When I was in school we learned how to have safe sex. The conversation doesn’t need to go beyond that. Anyone who gets pregnant in the vast majority of cases do so because they chose not to follow safe sex out of their own personal greed.

[@MDaggatt]

I didn't learn about sex until after I had been sexually assaulted. If I had learned about it earlier, then I could've done something, told someone, and had the abuse stop earlier than it did, because the day after I had my first sex ed class, I went to my school counselor, told her what had been happening for years, and she was able to stop it within that week. We need to talk about this stuff, because if your kid's don't know, they won't be able to stop it.

[@technoloverish]

Do you feel that some of the people opposed to sex ed oppose it partially because themselves or at least someone they know personally has assaulted people who are underaged, so they're worried about themselves or others who they know not being able to take advantage of the youth?

[@avahthomas298]

You don't need to know about sex acts at age 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

[@activistbook3809]

@@avahthomas298 you do

[@tamaryra]

Kids need to be taught that no one shouldn’t touch or see their private areas, and if it happens then they need to speak up about it immediately.

[@sydney7701]

Exactly. Kids need to learn about their bodies so they can communicate if something happens to them. When parents get defensive like this, saying only they should introduce this stuff to their children ... it sets off alarm bells in my head. Talking about your body isn't bad and gives kids strength if they're ever being violated. Because they need to be educated on what violation/consent is in the first place.

[@boiii508]

the way quisha literally spelled out institutionalized racism and still did not get it has me in tears

[@gashinggustwind5074]

I caught that too 😭

[@teetheluchador]

i screamed lmao. "no i think the issue is policies" oh so you agree its systemic? "no!"

[@colourm3fab]

She is not at all bright. I feel for her children

[@brandtmunk2492]

@@teetheluchador she was referring to policies that break down black families and encourage government dependency in the name of helping black people. Guess you weren't smart enough to make that inference.

[@willdevine8266]

@@brandtmunk2492 which would be systemic racism.

[@itsnatemate7697]

In terms of sex Ed, it should be talked about starting from middle schools. Especially with the newer generation. I went back to my middle school and found out these kids were having unsafe sex & doing drugs, stuff that I never touched or knew how to do. The amount of kids willingly looked up these things and how to do them is ridiculous. THATS what happens when you don’t educate or answer these questions. Their curiosity gets built up and they get smarter in the wrong way

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

Agreed, but the moment teachers try to teach kids about safe sex/ contraception it's always met with ridicule but yet are shocked when their kid becomes a parent at a young age

[@SierNotsruht]

Umm smarter? Kids arent smart, this kind of thing doesn't happen because kids are idiots, they aren't smart enough to do that

[@lunarialoonatic]

Agreed. I don’t think LGBTQ+ communities should be spoken about in kindergarden (lol my cousin’s girlfriend thinks so), but in middle school is fair game

[@azayzelderegis1655]

Exactly. It's the same mentality of parents who think abstinence-only sex education is the answer, even though this has been factually PROVEN to increase the number of unwanted pregnancies, and abortions.

[@itsnatemate7697]

@@lunarialoonatic In general sexuality shouldn’t. But the mention of “hey there’s a dad and a mom” or “there’s two dads”! “in this story the two mothers”

[@josephballard4150]

I would like to point out that the 2nd question was "discussion about sexuality doesn’t belong in school," and all the conservative parents acquainted sexuality to, the act of sex which are not the same at all

[@MGMEEXX]

Because it's taught hand in hand that's something that y'all don't understand is happening

[@samgoertzen3640]

@@MGMEEXXit’s not. I was taught about sexuality and was never taught about how to have sex other than where condoms go

[@BenLukemusic]

@@samgoertzen3640you’re lying because when they taught us they gave us condoms and taught about birds and bees

[@BenLukemusic]

@@samgoertzen3640and also if you’re going to do it be safe

[@snakebite100]

It's called "false equivalency ". It's what Republicans always do.

[@datta4062]

when the teacher said that parents need to start being parents cause lot times the teachers are the parents, i felt that

[@michaeljohndadd545]

😂

[@FirstNameLastName-wt5to]

The whole reason parents are upset is because teachers are trying to be parents. Teachers need to just do their jobs.

[@nadianorman2274]

It depends on what this teacher sees as the definition of parenting.

[@KandyGTV]

@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to then the parents need to raise their kids, a lot of times they are not.

[@brownjatt21]

@@KandyGTV maybe they are raised well but just not raised to the teachers liking?

[@conorkamperman957]

What they really need to add to school is longer recess / gym time and nutrition class

[@wolfardvfx]

Children are more energetic than adults (faster metabolism), so they need to spend that energy somehow. Yet they are sat on a classroom for hours upon hours on end, and get punished for not sitting still when they shouldn't be sitting still. more recess+more gym is needed

[@johncasey1360]

Add financial literacy course for high school and basic life skills. Teach kids how to read and understand financial documents, how to make some basic meals, how to make a budget, so many people have no clue on some of those things once they leave their parents.

[@6422022]

More classes actually teaching the students academia. My daughter gust graduated with honors and tried to get into the Canadian military but passed grade 10 math test. My husbands co workers daughter in grade 11 says they do not teach math (division etc as they use calculator). Too much politically charged teachers bringing their attitudes and ideology to vulnerable kids.

[@sarakachilika]

I wish we had that!

[@sircoolbox]

​@@ceeceeroschool's are setup for females, that's not geared towards for real life. Boys are more active and some boys are really hyper and active and they end up getting put on meds to slow them down because the parents don't realize that school is geared towards girls which is unfair to boys. Boys learn different from girls but are forced into learning the girls Way.

[@maureenponderosa8969]

If there hadn't been sex ed in school I would have never stopped being sexually abused. Many parents who sexually abuse their children opt out from having their kids in sex ed. These parents are so focused on their individual child they don't even think about the benefits of those classes.

[@laurenb7136]

glad your ok!!❤

[@swimrock9410]

Yepp

[@armykayla9971]

I’m so sorry that you experienced that. I’m glad that you had that class. I wish you the best.

[@merrimankaylynn]

Yes that is WHY this is SO important

[@biggydx]

Consent (as it pertains to physical boundaries) is a very important subject - centered in Sex Ed - to teach to young children, because it helps them understand when it's inappropriate for someone they don't know (or feel uncomfortble with) to touch them. It doesn't even have to be an explicit learning session, as it often times just involves a doll and pointing to certain "No-no" places that the kid shouldn't allow someone they don't trust to touch. It's especially important because often times, these young children are abused by members in their family, which could even include the parents. Having those children learn about this form of consent literally helps in protecting them from the beginnings of abuse, or continuation of it.

[@gratefulartstudioerinsitto8321]

Where is a teacher making $150k??? That’s unheard of.

[@mandubabulam]

Nowhere in the states, lmao.

[@reybat4969]

He’s lying 💯. His “friend” hasn’t told him the whole truth.

[@Mdlt92]

@@reybat4969 most likely "his friend" has a OF part time job :D

[@bradleyhampton7966]

Or maybe in New York and/or California where the cost of living is much much higher

[@AnonYmous-wm6wq]

It’s actually a lie teachers don’t make a livable wage. Most make on average $50-60k a year. In bigger cities with larger school districts they’re making well above that. The benefits are also amazing as teachers, which has to be taken into consideration as well. They have some of the best health insurance coverage and retirement plans available to a worker. The ones that don’t are working at tiny schools with little to no funding.

[@weaponizedpinata]

I just want to commend Mason for being intelligent, articulate, respectful and understanding. He acted exactly how I want to act when discussing these kinds of topics

[@dapo3538]

I also thought it was cool he was in the Anti vaxxers odd one out video

[@blainebossie9519]

He’s just an average hasan fan

[@BlackStar-hy1iy]

@@blainebossie9519 Then the average fan is well informed and eloquent.

[@storm-bv3rc]

hasanabi heads woooo

[@ChristineChang20]

@@dapo3538 OMG THAT WAS HIM?

[@howdy9918]

I thought I accidentally clicked on a hasan reaction vid LMAO

[@mgm8255]

WJJSJSNSKSJA

[@t.fwingproductions3636]

True lmao I thought it glitched

[@Stanks7]

Hahaha same I was so confused

[@brianna0fox]

LITERALLY HAHAHAH

[@samisikdar5417]

Who is he?

[@robertvasquez4661]

The look the parents gave when he told them “look what your kids tell us at school” was priceless lol

[@TheRealMeatwad]

I think the missed point by the parents here is that kids will always tell anyone what someone else said. They aren't doing it in order to 'tattle' on them or 'make a big deal'; they are trying to figure out the world and the largest 'authority' figures in their life are giving new or conflicting information and they legitimately just want to know what's what. They will always tell/ask the parents about what teachers say and vice versa; it's when the parents start shutting down the lines of communication and teachers are doing their best to keep them open that parents start complaining about teachers 'brainwashing' their children.

[@l0verofallthings]

@@TheRealMeatwad Aw this! Kids really are just trying to make sense of the world and are only relaying and repeating information to the biggest figures in their life at that point in their lives. Why can't we just let kids be inquisitive leaners who are exposed to all kinds of information and let them form their own opinion, instead of shutting them down from specific liberal values.

[@samuelboucher1454]

Teachers should probably not be asking questions that require students to tell them what their parents think. It doesn't matter if your parent thinks 2 + 2 = 5. These issues are only coming up because the teachers are goading students into these types of discussions.

[@quirkilyperfect1778]

@@samuelboucher1454 kids know about the larger world. Especially by secondary school, you'll be aware of politics, racism, sex etc. Its healthier to discuss these in an open forum than to just let kids run wild with these questions on the internet

[@CraigThePoet]

That was my favorite part lmao

[@thee_toxic_tiger]

When the blonde one said "unless you kiss a boy how do you know you are gay"? I have always known, I was always aware, I never had to kiss a boy to discover that part of me. I was out for 2.5 year before I kissed my first bf.

[@susangraham1203]

I think you are proving her point. She is saying that kids are being told to experiment. You know what you know. You didn't need to kiss someone of the opposite sex to know you didn't like them. She is saying that children are being asked how do they know they aren't homosexual/queer/bi/trans/etc. if you haven't kissed someone of the same sex. Children are being prompted to try different things rather than being able to decide for themselves. The sad thing is de-transitioners are being shamed when they realize they made a mistake, because someone told them to. Of course, this is not true in all cases. Some transition without being groomed, and then realize they have ruined their bodies. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment.

[@kwuagga5484]

@@susangraham1203 Teachers are not asking children to "test" out if they're LGBT, this is nonsense.

[@susangraham1203]

@kwuagga5484 I wouldn't know, but I have no reason to doubt the woman in this video's story. That is the part of the video that I was commenting on. She could be lying, but I doubt it. Of course, my story is anecdotal, so you can believe it or not, but a friend of a family member went for counselling and was told they were suffering stress from their car accident because they wanted to be the opposite sex. Fortunately, I don't have children in the school system, but I am sure there is more going on than people would like to believe. They are trying to pass a law where I live that bars teachers from telling parents if their children are questioning their sexuality. Once upon a time, teachers keeping secrets from students' parents was frowned upon.

[@MGMEEXX]

They are stop the ignorance ​@@kwuagga5484

[@HouseHoldAdventures]

You were groomed

[@brucesnow7125]

I love Kenyon's answers so much. You can tell that he's just tired of talking to annoying parents, so he gets straight to point.

[@ewwitscullen9132]

Completely agree. These parents will likely never change and you can't allow them any breathing room.

[@hopevitale8050]

That’s his job though… you think parents shouldn’t have the majority of authority over their kids and what they’re being taught?

[@anonymoususer1144]

@@hopevitale8050 If you don’t like what’s being taught in the classroom, then pull your child out and teach them yourself. That way you can *gladly* have all the authority over your child that you need. Teachers have hundreds of students. There isn’t any time to create bias and curve the whole curriculum just to accommodate 1.

[@lucymolockian1849]

@@anonymoususer1144 Does that come with a tax voucher or should we still be forced to pay for these training centers?

[@neeneeesweet]

@@hopevitale8050 No I don’t because the average parent doesn’t have the education or experience to be a teacher. not everyone can teach, not everyone is qualified. almost anyone can impregnate someone or be pregnant. having a child doesn’t make you a child expert.

[@davidbean6973]

As a non-American, the "teachers with guns make schools safer" prompt seems wild. It's one of those issues that is just shocking to me that you'd even have to consider.

[@KCal1213]

Those of us educators there that day felt the same as you and we are all Americans.

[@brandtmunk2492]

@@KCal1213 would you prefer to place the safety of teachers and students solely in the hands of the police, e.g. Uvalde?

[@KCal1213]

@@brandtmunk2492 I don't live in Uvalde, so I don't know how that would affect me. Where I work, there is a campus police department that works in conjunction with city and county law enforcement. I wouldn't trust you with a firearm on campus if that isn't part of your job description.

[@aperson6799]

@@brandtmunk2492 The police there failed their jobs. Miserably. Yet I feel there would be an unforeseen consequence to giving teachers guns. Perhaps give more training and support (funding) for police officers so they don’t *wait outside a school for an hour while someone takes innocent lives away inside* . At least in my area, police are fairly abundant and crime is pretty darn low (other than petty thefts and minor crimes).

[@Matty__niice]

@@brandtmunk2492 as an American it seems wild to me too

[@jiji8648]

I’m sorry but those kids LIED to their parents! I’m 22.. when I was in school, it was my peers, literally the other kids in my class or my friends that’s told me about sex and stuff. This was honestly shocking..

[@genericbob5518]

You must be privileged growing up in a nice district or something. Like, have you seen the recent issues where parents brought to the school board screenshots of erotica and r-rated material in the ELEMENTARY school library? Like Nah.

[@genzofthe2148]

I’m 21 same thing

[@privacyplease1556]

It’s a different world out there today. If you went to school today, it would be very different now than when you were a kid

[@TheNinjapancake14]

Kids are annoying but this makes me want to ask one about their school life. What’s really going on? Spill the tea 😆

[@aperson6799]

@@privacyplease1556 At least in my school, it’s my fellow students that have “enlightened” me on… subjects. Never a teacher though, they’ve all done pretty great, but I live in a pretty nice area though so I don’t know if that affects it.

[@afrodesiac8064]

It's weird some people won't trust their kid's teacher to talk about health/anatomy but they'll trust them to walk around with a gun in class.

[@Jimthefurryworm]

WTF does that even mean??????????????

[@RonLarhz]

@@Jimthefurryworm im not even anywherenear america and i know what it meant. lol.

[@aashi225]

It’s funny that the parents think they can “protect” their kids from certain “inappropriate topics.” Like they go to school and hear other things besides what comes out of their parents mouths😭

[@genzofthe2148]

Most of these kids have access to the internet and look up stuff that’s inappropriate

[@alexandracole3926]

They can't even protect their children from school shootings 😬

[@isaak1748]

@@genzofthe2148 exactly, as someone who grew up in a conservative town and had 0 information on those topics, the first time I learned about sex was through pornography. It's sad to see that kids are being prevented from learning about this topics through an educational lense.

[@99SigP]

That is true, but that is not an excuse to allow schools to teach whatever they darn well please. That's the same as saying that people are going to commit crimes, so we should just legalize everything so that there is no crime. Parents simply want more say and more control over what their children are being taught by an established institution, especially when their tax dollars fund that institution. That's very different than their kid's friends introducing them to different things in private conversation.

[@Chaolice]

@@99SigP But here in this specific case, are you against teaching sex education in classrooms?

[@franki88k]

Delusional parents. As a child I was exposed to so many adult topics that I didn’t understand and couldn’t process. If those conversations took place in a safe and informative way in schools, those things wouldn’t have effected me in such a detrimental way. Sex, drugs, sexuality, racism, it should all be discussed so children don’t grow up with a warped view of the world. I’m not suggesting anything explicit or graphic, just knowledge that those things exist and how to go about the world safely. That knowledge can’t negatively effect a child the way unsolicited exposure can.

[@nutellaluver00]

SAY IT LOUDER 📢

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

And that's the problem with these parents they think that everyone in the world is going to have the same frame of mind/ thinking as them but that's not what's going to happen. When their kids get older they are going to have different experiences and viewpoints thrown at them from different parts of the world that will challenge them but these parents don't see it like that.

[@heathertea2704]

💯

[@vivianrauhl]

THIS. Kids are exposed to many adult and inappropriate topics anyway, and most of the time is the parent's fault who talk about those things at home. The way a kid is exposed to those topics makes the difference, and we all know there are different levels of explaining or introducing topics based on the age of the individual. Teachers are the ones who know how to create a safe space for these topics to be discussed. Unfortunately, most parents don't because they only care about raising miniature versions of themselves.

[@nelsonmartinez7544]

Idk if you was paying attention to the vid but I’m pretty sure the parents acknowledge that. The problem was the line being cross with these conversation that’s leading it to be more explicit especially with the sex talk. Your the only delusional one here thinking the world revolves around you just cuz you had different experience then the other kids who growing up without the need of schools pushing these conversation who turn out just fine learning these topics themselves as they get older

[@aaliyahirdk]

One thing that will always get me about being a teacher is parents making assumptions they know better than you because they have kids, despite acknowledging the fact that you've worked with kids for decades and from all different walks of life, and had to deal with situations they will never comprehend

[@tranquilator1109]

Its still their kid you weirdo.

[@XMissGX]

Exactly, some parents are the biggest morons on the planet.

[@Coffee-wy8su]

Especially how parenting is an ongoing learning process and how generational abuse/trauma involves that as well.

[@QuishaKing]

No, we know OUR kid better than you.

[@PhysicallyAwake]

@@QuishaKing you probably don’t, and it’s something so many parents aren’t willing to admit. This is coming from a minor, who’s exposed to the uncensored version of YOUR kids everyday at school.

[@starbug345]

I actually agree with the blonde lady saying it’s one of the worst things you can do to someone: make them feel pitied or hopeless

[@BizQAC]

Creates a hopeless, helpless victim

[@kstar1489]

I’m sorry you don’t like kids learning the truth. It’s just reality. It in no way says that kids shouldn’t try.

[@GavinAbitabile]

Uneducated people shouldn’t control education.

[@bendadestroyer]

They same the same when caring for elderly people: don't do anything for them that they can do themselves.

[@SadHeauxTG]

This conversation is so funny because if you know how public school works, you wouldn’t put your kids there in general. If you don’t want your child to have a communal education, why would you put them into a school system that is literally paid for and influenced by the community. Public school isn’t going to reflect your home, it’s going to reflect the general PUBLIC. if you have a problem, homeschool your kids and stop blaming these teachers, who are government workers, for following guidelines voted on by the public.

[@ryleeperkins1758]

Also some parents care about the education system and not just they’re single child. Parents wanna make a difference in the system not let it sit there and rot with the students inside it

[@arohani]

this !

[@rayaan_1]

Ur now just saying whatever is being taught upon the child, nonetheless the teacher shouldn't be blamed upon just because they're following what the government is ordering them to do. The point that you missed her & what you don't understand is that these public teachers who teaches these stuff DOES not understand how affecting it is to the young students out there. Use ur brain and it's literally common sense.

[@SheSoulGliden]

I agree but I would say, do not make the mistake as a black parent sending a kid to an all white school. My daughter hated her school and the town had an history. I went because of housing and an offer to get on my feet. Should have moved her when I completed with the offer. Just my opinion as a parent and educator. I was watched as a teacher but the kids loved me and how real I was and fair. Teachers hated it.

[@swagswagify]

@@SheSoulGliden same goes for white parents, dont send your kids to an all black school.

[@Dayfade9099]

Bro I am in high school in a highly liberal area. Not once have they ever shown literal sex acts to us or “how to get laid”. Like normal, the conservative parents are blowing things out of proportions.

[@citrineconjurer]

Not to mention how they only view the discussion of LGBT+ topics in school from the perspective of straight parents/students with no consideration for how important that is for LGBT+ youths.

[@AlzMarioWolfe]

Neither. I went to a liberal arts high school and not a word of any of that was ever uttered. I wish I learned more regarding sex education.

[@AM-bm9rs]

@@citrineconjurer why do kids need to know about sexuality

[@ElectricGreenWater21]

they get all their information from Facebook. I work in schools. not a single issue they brought up is real.

[@N0t-Luciifer]

This fr- all we got was a presentation about not getting pregnant and that's it. These conservatives are living in their own head

[@crissoopshii4690]

not letting your child be exposed to other types of thinking and other ways of being because you're scared that they will figure out who they are when you're not looking... that is what abuse and a controlling parent looks like from the start

[@vfinny2006]

exactly bro 😭😭

[@bmanagement4657]

@@sparingharbor2600 yeah but conservative/religious beliefs are wrong, and liberal academics whom liberals abide are correct.

[@lobstershark5059]

This is literally the definition of indoctrination (The ACTUAL definition), not letting your kids see any other belief and forcing them to stick to one, without question.

[@bmanagement4657]

@@lobstershark5059 like the pledge of allegiance?

[@lindseyscammell9347]

@@sparingharbor2600 disagree so much with that. Teachers aren't saying this is who you have to be and this is what you have to do. They are simply saying these things exist in the world. No matter your beliefs you should be respectful of others. That's it... That's the message.And it goes both ways.. Liberal or Conservative. Parents are naive if they think kids don't hear this kind of stuff on the Internet or from peers. All teachers do is teach the element of respecting others on to this

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

5:43 He learned the hard way. It is better to be a professor. College is where the real learning happens.

[@i9incher]

Honestly dude was based AF. Best part of the video.

[@morgan7003]

these parents had some of the wildest takes I've heard in a while and that's saying something

[@isaacng123456789]

It's just all Fox News talking points.

[@bboylyte8639]

@@isaacng123456789 headline readers as usual

[@ishy6875]

@@karankapoor2701 Go form your own opinions instead of being a political parrot.

[@kbeezyk]

It is really wild. Even wilder that it all happens everyday.

[@MarcelandrieW]

This was a tough watch haha

[@enriquelicona1]

when the mom in the pink shirt said “im glad my kids don’t go to public school anymore” and the professor said “im glad they don’t too” 😂😂

[@belovedruru6179]

You can tell, throughout his teaching career, he is over dealing with parents lol.

[@KCal1213]

I sure did say that, and I meant it. I want parents involved, but I don't need a parent with no expertise in my subject matter to tell me how or what I am teaching.

[@KCal1213]

@@belovedruru6179 yes I am that is why I would rather deal with an adult and not a parent of a child.

[@belovedruru6179]

@@KCal1213 I understand. I use to be a daycare assistant teacher. And even at that level parents can be unbearable. Plus some of the changes the school system has taken has made it impossible for some teachers to deal. Y’all deserve the best support and PAY.

[@KCal1213]

@@belovedruru6179 thanks so much.

[@sararobinson6571]

If you don’t trust a teacher’s judgement teaching your kids, how are you gonna trust their judgment with a gun in the classroom?

[@MrLTLB]

Seriously...the Fact that they are soooooooooooooooo stuck on the idea of arming them and then saying that "Ohhhh but if they want to be armed" is just Hypocritical to a LEVEL that these Parent's are FACE PLANTING themselves to the Floor that they're basically burying themselves 6ft deep.

[@MrLibtard]

You think all teachers are like these??

[@apolloismydad]

exactly

[@apolloismydad]

also, why is the TEACHER expected to carry the gun? it’s not their job

[@MrLibtard]

@@apolloismydad Nobody is talking about forcing teachers to carry a gun. 🤦‍♂️

[@brentosburn3422]

Why do y'all not put a mic on the person asking questions? I listen to these in the car and I can literally NEVER hear the question and have to rewind and actually watch it. Just put a mic on the interviewer

[@Roe275]

Teacher: Teaching that some kids have 2 dads Parents: so what’s next, a book about child rape?! That’s such a disgusting comparison he should be ashamed of himself.

[@seanwick4290]

Exactly what I thought!

[@cursed-cat9126]

With his uneven hairline, I feel so bad for his kids

[@ggeneralgrunt]

i thought to myself "eh, shaun's actually pretty chill ngl." and then that scene came on two seconds later. yeah, he's not very chill.

[@Elizabeth-yy8ri]

@@cursed-cat9126 and his embarrassing dreadlocks

[@nudah08]

There’s always a starting point to evil acts. It happens gradually. There’s nothing wrong with discussing what could be next.

[@TheRiddlez11]

These people are *severely* underestimating their children, and it's going to hurt them much more than any of the topics they think are harmful.

[@lokieleven2694]

They have hope for their children and do their best for them, I feel sorry if you look at your kid and say “they will do what they want so why try”

[@dianadiosdado1028]

@@lokieleven2694 strict parenting creates sneaky children. im a psych major. 😂

[@dianadiosdado1028]

@@lokieleven2694 if you want to let your kid grow up in a bubble shielding then from the real world, home school them!

[@asmolgaytree]

Coming from a conservative family, it was the "liberal" teachers that I felt the most comfortable around and enjoyed their classes more. They never forced ideas or anything upon me, I was just shown different views and have become a kinder and more understanding person than I might've been if I was homeschooled. Also, you don't want kids learning about sexuality or sex in schools and you won't teach them about it, they're going to go to the internet and find out themselves which is even more unsupervised and possibly more dangerous.

[@Codeinecrazy23]

Typically the complete opposite

[@undefinedfreedom8580]

You are a typical product iPod indoctrination. Poor you.

[@coda3223]

Same - I think thats why parents are freaking out. They don't want their kids to access a diversity of ideas, because they want to control how their kids individuate.

[@meganconroy6041]

​@@Codeinecrazy23 for who?

[@andrejamison2723]

​@@coda3223 not true

[@jessr.8258]

I'm not an educator, I'm not a parent, I have no business being here but I got here and I'm staying for Kenyon 👏

[@marthals89]

I love kenyon!!

[@keith2o9]

You can literally feel Kayla's blood boiling of her trying to get her point across. And the College Professor facial expression of anger.

[@KCal1213]

There were a couple of times I wanted to scream!!

[@mirayoon1992]

yeah..

[@davinamayor7776]

@@KCal1213 is it you in the video?

[@NoName-1239]

Of course they are angry, they are pedophiles who want to groom kids

[@KCal1213]

@@NoName-1239 no that would be you Chester!

[@si_quest]

“Using their position of authority to mold young Minds” Lady, you’re literally describing the church.

[@W42ny]

"Church" lady, why is it so wrong to have a religion. What happened to treating everyone with respect? It is also the parent's job to shape their kids, not the teachers, why is that so hard to understand? Teachers shouldn't be telling other people's kids what to do, outside of basic manners.

[@bawanki1179]

@Creamy Co. because indoctrination is bad. Let your kids be "free thinkers"

[@W42ny]

@@bawanki1179 It is indoctrination to force things like gender ideology onto kids.

[@jacksauce]

Some churches maybe, but not all. What you’re describing is more akin to a cult.

[@civildiscourse7626]

Church is optional… school usually isn’t

[@karinadoshi3950]

teachers DO NOT need The burden of having to worry about saving a students life with a gun when their job is already stressful enough

[@KCal1213]

What you just said.

[@Random-sk6hm]

As a Brit can I just say WOW. The fact that there are real parents out there that are like this is incomprehensible, sometimes I think these are characters in a show because of how ludicrous their ideas and beliefs are. It makes me respect US teachers that have to deal with them so much

[@angelsadventure4996]

😂 Hmm... Said after the teacher ran away while letting your child in front of an armed intruder to safely return home.

[@privacyplease1556]

Picture books and coloring are too much for them to handle 😢

[@TheNinjapancake14]

The teachers from my high school who would volunteer to wield a gun are not the teachers I would trust 😅

[@mileylunsford7039]

I would love to see a liberal teachers vs. conservative teens episode. It would be very interesting to hear the perspective on some of these questions from a students perspective.

[@aDubOneLove]

These parents are making a lot of assumptions… Most of the social and cultural things I’ve learned at school didn’t come from curriculum, I learned from other older kids. Kids ask other kids things. Kids show off what they know to other kids. It can be teachers but in most cases, I don’t think so.

[@bboylyte8639]

These teachers think exposure to different cultures, background, theology, is indoctrination

[@Paul2377]

Well said. I bet they hear their kids saying things and go: "OMG! Those lib teachers told you that!" Rather than just asking where they heard it. You couldn't pay me enough money to be a teacher haha.

[@day2784]

as a sophomore i cam confirm most of these topics being discussed i learned from other kids at school

[@TheLofren]

These are not just parents Elisha is a conservative radio host called Elisha Krauss who has worked with ben shapiro and others Marissa is the CEO of PragerU, her name is Marissa Streit Shaun Frederickson is the organizer and founder of the freedom revival event, a conservative movement Quisha is the host of the Quisha King show, another conservative opinion show And they're all just repeating talking points they've already spread before

[@Ichifate]

I think it's ok to have a political opinion as a teacher, but a political agenda is different.

[@Animeslaya]

@Dawaza Gaming My problem with him using the law as the determining factor of what is okay and what isnt, is that humans are flawed beings, and the laws that are created very much shows that, things that are illegal may not be morally wrong, like gay marriage for instance, slavery used to be legal, so using the law as the defining factor can get you into morally gray zones as people’s opinions and biases can influence it

[@zachk5652]

@@Animeslaya What law currently are you concerned about?

[@AttitudeforQA]

@@WhoIsJoe31 Ever heard of book called "gender queer"?

[@scott7385]

@@dawazagaming name them here.

[@isabelle9125]

@Doom Guy you’re acting like the book was apart of the curriculum. It was just found in libraries and was banned.

[@sof444]

My parents never had conversations about sex, politics, nor religion. I am very thankful to public education for starting the dabate and making me think for myself. It allowed me to talk about these topics with teachers, friends and peers that came from all kind of backrounds and mindsets. If school had never tough me that I would be severely uncultured and closeminded.

[@aus-li]

Y’all talked about politics and religion? Can you elaborate more on that? I’m very interested since I’m from New Jersey, which supposedly is in the top 3 in the US, and even in college we didn’t go in-depth about those things.

[@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774]

Wow are y'all bots or something?

[@hookcomics]

People just be lying for like on a KZbin comment

[@Random-sk6hm]

@@aus-li Did you not have RE? (Religious Education where we learnt about different religions, cultures etc.) I'm guessing politics was in high school as well as sex ed

[@aus-li]

@@Random-sk6hm Nope. The only thing we talked about was sex-ed, lol; at least the area I was from.

[@kristyandcowreact]

OK, these parents are delusional. The examples they are bringing up are things other students are doing, NOT THE TEACHERS! If you don't want your kid to be shocked about hearing things at school, the it's on YOU to teach them, not just say the world is bad bc another kid told your kid something, that they likely heard from am older student, maybe on the bus, or older sibling, etc, and NOT FROM THE TEACHER. Do they really think teachers gonna pop pornhub up on the screen??? It's ridiculous. I'm 46. I was taught Sex Ed similar to what guy said, but we did a few times, and then got a front seat to "the miracle of birth" in 7th grade bio. If you want your kid prepared, teach em. Don't get mad when teachers have to address something other students have done for the sake of the class. Also, does that one woman REALLY think a teacher posted that "call to find out about sex" poster?? She think teachers are the ones scribbling in bathrooms too? Ffs.

[@bbsuika]

love the idea of not trusting teachers with the education of your child (which is what they are trained to do), but instead, trusting them with a gun in the classroom.

[@Hugatree4me]

that to me was such a big disconnect; why would you be ok with arming the very teachers whose qualifications you discredit and denounce so often?

[@Godlesssicko]

@@Ninepac Christianity is an ideology, and children are being indoctrinated by it. Teaching kids about different sexualities isn't an ideology. 🤭

[@jackthomas6952]

A Teacher who has the desire to risk his/her life to protect their students by actually fighting an active killer would most likely 10 times out 10 be a Teacher that wouldn’t be trying to push a liberal or gay agenda on their students.

[@coachtyce4584]

@@Ninepac Wouldn't that same teacher have volunteered to become a teacher, and went through extensive training (in most cases) in order to be... a teacher?

[@meganconroy6041]

Ah yes America

[@JordanRunge14]

Something that I have been wondering lately. Since when did having empathy become political? If being empathetic is a liberal value then I have never been more proud to be a liberal

[@isaak1748]

This!! I wonder the same thing all the time. Nowadays if you say that you care about other people and want them to live happy fulfilling lives they'll call you a lib or a commie

[@leadingtojoy7497]

Fantastic question. I think that many people with conservative views overlook, don’t realize, or ignore how many of their views lack empathy.

[@JordanRunge14]

@@leadingtojoy7497 They see it as we are "emotional". But them being hateful and angry all the time isn't emotional? C'mon

[@planetmars444]

yeah it seemed so weird when he said that

[@sanriosonderweg]

Its selective, would they honestly teach "perspectives" of say Jared Taylor?

[@eabhareilly7631]

“This is why my kids don’t go to public school anymore” “ I’m glad that don’t” bro has no filter

[@zehcro4854]

I had so much respect for him

[@justarandomdude6910]

That's the best thing he did

[@miaonthesticks]

Bc she's talking out her neck

[@valkyrie4Ok]

Bro I have respect for him but public school sucks it’s almost always ghetto

[@gdiaz8827]

Public schools have no filters and are pushing an abnormal agenda

[@grypheonix]

From someone who grew up in the Florida school system and had children in it as well. Their schools are some of the worst in the nation. And Florida becoming "redder" did not help in the slightest. They actually got worse. Once we moved to a blue state, we notice a much healthier school environment with far better curriculum.

[@lyssdare]

Florida is still a red state so get ur facts correct

[@grypheonix]

@@lyssdare At what point did I ever say it wasn't a red state? I grew up in Florida. It was a swing state for most of my life. I said "it becoming "redder"". Meaning it was no longer a swing state. It had become red. Please work on your reading skills before you jump on me about not having my facts correct.

[@olivia9742]

The SRO officer (trained police officer) in my middle school accidentally fired his weapon in the school during school hours. No matter how much training he went through - things still happen- More guns on campus DONT make things safer . Thank goodness no one was hurt but it coulda been a lot worse.

[@TheNinjapancake14]

That’s scary, glad no one got hurt!

[@neckofthewoods24]

youre delusional

[@Jmm5m]

Data states that armed teachers DO NOT make schools safer

[@nataliecampbell4214]

I just find it wild that this issue is getting thrown at teachers when our ENTIRE society sells sex in every area possible

[@sophien5416]

Touchez!

[@jacksauce]

We should stop it everywhere. I’m in college and I’m disgusted by how rampant sex is. Why can’t we go back to the days where sex was between you and one other person and not in every ad, movie, institution, and video you see?

[@leogol6045]

Because, in general, teachers reach kids first. And they're with them nearly all day every day, through all or almost all of their most formative periods in their lives.

[@rosettekalombo3072]

But we do not need it in school

[@jairchavez3720]

Read and study history dude. Prostitution has been practiced in ancient and modern times. Ask any ducking historian. And sex among young people have actually dropped since the 80s. What we see on TV isnt from 19 year olds controlling running adds 🤦. It’s the older crowd that’s been pushing that 😵

[@daenerystargaryen1440]

Respect to the teachers because I wouldn't be able to keep my calm around parents like this

[@Random-sk6hm]

Your Grace, as a Brit can I just say WOW. The fact that there are real parents out there that are like this is incomprehensible, sometimes I think these are characters in a show because of how ludicrous their ideas and beliefs are. It makes me respect US teachers that have to deal with them so much

[@KCal1213]

Thank you and it is appreciated. That day was interesting to say the least.

[@aaygeo]

As a Brit too, can i just say i really disrespect the political agenda of american education systems. I loved that in UK classrooms teachers stuck to the curriculum, and didnt even admit their political affiliations in respect of political neutrality. We all know american education is one of the worst, no wonder why.

[@lizziealice2508]

I was so angry watching this i feel so bad for there kids!

[@mirayoon1992]

same, my parents are conservative(traditional) not political way

[@lmarie3834]

Kudus to you "Jubilee" for orchestrating these very important discussions! LOVE these!

[@clammyhands8441]

My school has taught me everything about safe sex, pregnancy, consequences, birth control, and solutions. My parents come from Japan, which is naturally a very conservative country so they taught me nothing. Teaching about these things at school is so important.

[@yesyesyes666]

exactly. My school taught the very basics and id hear everyday about kids having unsafe sex. Parents need to understand that in a room of 30+ kids that the teachers will teach sex-ed generally so it can apply to all sexualities. And that if they won't teach their kid and dont want the schools teaching it. The real world will

[@priscillaspets]

Not what they are arguing against. everyone wants these things to be taught. but not pronouns, gender affirming surgeries, puberty blockers, etc.

[@maverick9357]

@@priscillaspets yes! Finally someone else gets it

[@clammyhands8441]

@@maverick9357 I'm confused, so please elaborate. What exactly offends you when they teach about pronouns? It's basic respect. 🤦‍♀

[@kaylawilliam7893]

@@priscillaspets guess ms. Smith gotta take out that grammar lesson on pronouns...

[@Erenmir]

Parent: "THAT'S WHY MY CHILDREN DON'T GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOL ANYMORE!" Teacher: "...and I'm glad they don't."

[@anaiyahretrokid4640]

She really said that, like she thought they’d care about her kids who are completely irrelevant to them… 🙃

[@cesargr2903]

If that implies school vauchers and less funds for public schools because the students will witdraw. We are glad

[@MsDudette21]

its funny an everyday parent thinks they know more about education than a teacher does. liek there's sooo much to teach a kid and youre gonna do it all? please. not to mention stuff u dont learn in school but from everyday life. they cant do that if mommy and daddy keep them from interacting from the real world

[@barrywhite5502]

@@MsDudette21 You sound like a pro new world order large government centralized controlled sheep.

[@SamWest-ld2ph]

Not me reading this as they said it.

[@kristianasauceda8230]

I went to high school in a very liberal area not once did they ever mention how to preform sex acts or even dare to show pictures. The sheer ignorance of these parents of what is actually going on in schools is crazy.

[@swimrock9410]

The only time I taught that was in college in my Human Sextuality class because I was a Psychology major

[@ReemSalah28]

This happened recently in Dearborn, Michigan tho. Parents were protesting the school board for allowing highly inappropriate books in schools.

[@ideservedonuts]

they are talking about florida.

[@donniedewitt9878]

It’s been recorded to happen across many states

[@Javier_N_K]

This doesn’t invalidate their experiences.

[@monalisa6474]

i literally appreciate marissa’s conversations so much, she seems respectful and willing to listen

[@tennyopallas]

This is definitely one of the most infuriating middle grounds I've seen. Conservative parents: You're doing this in the classroom! Teachers: No we're not... Conservative parents: Well, some teacher some where is!

[@smokedout7129]

So you're ignoring the many videos of woke teachers doing that stuff?

[@RAD-m3x]

@@smokedout7129 What stuff

[@cman04]

literally so much evidence of teachers doing everything that they said. You also have to understand the way teacher's speak. You had that one teacher talking about discussing different family dynamics in the classroom, and how they aren't going to shy away from a student talking about two moms or two dads. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean they should use that as an opportunity to lead a discussion in class about different family dynamics, which they often do. It is not a public school's place to discuss things of that nature. Reading, writing, math, history, science...these are the things that need to be taught. Not social and cultural norms, which are incredibly subjective.

[@AnneGreen-xg4hv]

@@smokedout7129 A few things on that: 1) Videos can be edited to push a point, and many are. 2) Teachers are people, and like with any other profession, there are always a few people who are bad actors or misguided. The "woke teacher" videos don't show if/how the teacher was disciplined, or what led up to the comments being made.

[@AnneGreen-xg4hv]

@@cman04 Yeah, so I teach high school, and social/cultural norms come up whether you want them to or not. Taking an inclusive tone when the issues arise is not indoctrination or pushing an agenda. All education can be subjective, and part of our jobs as teachers is to use our expertise to navigate those waters.

[@MsDudette21]

it's funny to me that parents think it's normal to pull a kid out of public school cuz they dont agree with whats being taught even if it's necessary and true. going to school in a way is a glimpse of the real world. youre gonna meet all kinds of ppl and learn how to interact with them. u cant do that if school is at home.

[@ceeIoc]

What is true?

[@Random-sk6hm]

Exactly

[@erinnn5790]

Going to Public school is the definition of living in a bubble. You have class with the same 20 kids every school year, with kids who all think the same, act the same. They aren’t exposed to much. Homeschooling though? My homeschool friends travel the world with their kids. These kids get to experience different cultures, see different places, and actually get to experience the things they learn about. Rather than just sitting in a classroom all day, thinking the rest of the world is just like theirs.

[@Matty__niice]

@@erinnn5790 sounds like you went to a small school. Weird you would think your anecdotal evidence was needed here.

[@elreydelmundo1343]

@Erinnn I need you to understand that your comment added absolutely nothing to the conversation. Anecdotes about a couple of friends having traveled the world are not applicable nor possible to the population at large. Neither does your friends homeschooled kid being friendly mean anything to anyone or prove any point.

[@lilian9725]

That Black women "so you're not oppressed"...yeah..he worked hard to get where he is, that doesn't mean hat he can't face racism...like wtf...

[@LavenderJack540]

She wouldn't know genuine engagement with any sensible person in a calm, show-&-tell way if her miserable life depended upon it. Her kind never does. She chose her position long ago, I don't doubt, & said position couldn't be less helpful or beneficial to black American women, or to black Americans in general. She's lost, & will likely expire lost. However, I'd bet her shoes are like mirrors 24/7. Lavender Jack...Swooping On Down.

[@Paul2377]

Yeah she got personal because she struggled to use reason in her argument.

[@KCal1213]

That is why I didn't reply to her comment. Sometimes you have to allow others to make fools of themselves.

[@TheZchristina97]

@@LavenderJack540 I thoroughly appreciated this comment

[@rseestella2296]

Exactly, she’s trying so hard to get validation from *certain* people in the room to the point she wasn’t even making sense. What’s funnier is that they weren’t even agreeing

[@meenaamy]

Quisha... can I call you Candace?

[@PontifexFrankimus]

Quisha is based

[@Jax-juleshe]

I love when people say “we need to have this conversation” when they are literally having the conversation.

[@Windrake101]

Especially more so when the "conversation" in need of having, has been "haved" for decades at this point, but very little action is committed to the fruits of those conversations. Ultimately leading back to "us needing to have this conversation".

[@anonymous3174]

They mean as a nation

[@kayo6689]

It’s so funny because its an automatic phrase and is often used to discredit whatever is being talked about

[@LittleGreyWolfForge]

It’s not being had between parents and teachers everywhere, is what they mean. I think that sometimes liberals say that these things aren’t happening in classrooms, but as a student, I can confirm that in sixth grade I was shown gay sex. It’s really messed up what they are teaching.

[@ekalbach999]

The fact that these parents don’t trust us to teach their kids responsibly but would trust us to carry a firearm around their children is blowing my mind.

[@r.s.111]

exactly

[@michellemarie1197]

That is mind blowing

[@themore-you-know]

How is that blowing your mind? - Is it reasonable to say that if someone was a visible gun threat, the teacher would be able to recognize that? - Which is a large contrast with the teachers near complete inability to recognize that their own ideological biases is a threat to the children-parents' ideological origins. That's what these parents trust, and I'm saying this as someone who is vehemently against armed teachers. Then again, about the former... even THAT liberal school personal has managed to screw up. A few weeks ago in Cleveland, 2 school vice-principals opened the school's doors to 3 armed gunmen to "protect the black men from the cops". That reckless behavior then prolonged the altercation for a further 30 minutes. It's hard to gain parents' trust when even THAT low of an ideological bar is screwed up.

[@zahriashoday256]

I had the same exact thought. They don't trust their children's teachers with certain books but trust them with a deadly weapon around their children... I'm confused.

[@leeninini]

Parents are asking you to carry a gun?

[@The_cat_alogue]

While I can understand some of the parents' fears, it feels like they are mostly worried about their children learning about (and possibly gravitate towards) views different from the ones they're taught at home

[@coffee.pillar]

Exactly.

[@Joe-yh7eb]

I think it’s mostly cause it’s not the teacher’s responsibility to teach those things. Secondary schooling, should only be about math, writing, history, etc.

[@Codeinecrazy23]

bro no😂😂 the point is teachers should be unbiased and not judge others based on their political views as that has no relevance to their class ☠️

[@cpisarek4284]

Yes, that's part of it. And what's wrong with that? These parents know that their kids are gonna have liberal ideologies shoved down their throats in the real world (people will get offended by that, but it's just the reality; it's incredibly pervasive). But they want to foster their own ideologies within their children as long as they can so they're not as malleable by the time counter ideologies are introduced to them. There's nothing wrong with that.

[@Codeinecrazy23]

@@cpisarek4284 facts

[@kristyandcowreact]

37:55 ok that lady in the pink shirt literally just said the exact same thing the professor did, but when he said it, he was wrong. I hope she can one day watch this and see that hypocrisy at work. 😢

[@nutellaluver00]

So they’ll trust teachers to use guns when they’re certified to use guns but won’t trust teachers to teach when they’re certified to teach?

[@BriJoyH]

EXACTLY

[@ceeIoc]

No one gets certified to teach crt.

[@Random-sk6hm]

@@ceeIoc Yes you do... you need a certification to teach it

[@crapreact5989]

@@ceeIoc yes you do tf?

[@erinnn5790]

Using guns doesn’t have any biases. Teachers have biases. And they teach those biases. What if you don’t want your kids to have those same biases?

[@HF-tj8db]

It's kinda funny that the parents blame the teachers for talking to kids about gender identities, but at the same time feeding your kid with so much information about said gender identities that they jump up and go on a rant about them when asked for their pronouns at school. Interesting who's indoctrinating who here.

[@theramzieshow7654]

Pronouns are ridiculous because there are only 2 genders. You can easily tell just by looking at someone they are a binary sex and there is nothing they can do to change that. When pronouns become a very prominent thing, then it can limit speech because when we call them by the wrong pronouns, they can cancel us

[@princeicykeybord]

Fr…. All I heard is I want my indoctrination to work…,

[@necrom4454]

The problem the parents are mentioning is not what the schools are indoctrinating their kids with, but the fact they are indoctrinating. Parents will probably indoctrinate their kids aswell, and they know it, and they are FOR it. Their fight is so that schools only teach things such as maths and english, and not ideologies. Ideologies, or indoctrination should be thought by the parents, that's what they are fighting for.

[@gwenrichard7507]

Its not their job. If a kid brings up sex you call home or you give it to the teacher or counselor that's in charge of sex ed. We had a kid in school who talked about sex (acts) and gender. Turned out he was being molested. My question to you would be if you wanted to molest a kid as a teacher how would you begin to groom them?

[@antoniomolluramusic7778]

@@gwenrichard7507 this is deflecting. ur statement also relies on the fact that teachers are more trusted by the student than the parent.

[@punktlig7354]

“Here is how you can have sex, so you do not get pregnant” I literally see no problem here? Informed youth can make informed decisions. There needs to be sex education for children and teenagers. This will literally save lives.

[@C0wboy_]

Exactly like it’s understandable that parents don’t want their kids having sex like duhh but if the teens are doing it and exploring their sexuality they should at least be informed about how to do it safely and responsible

[@Bloooo95]

Conservatives: “Abortion is evil!” Also Conservatives: “Teaching abortion-preventive material is also evil!”

[@divx1001]

@@Bloooo95 these conservatives are so delusional and completely against educating themselves. Not to mention the audacity they have to try to instruct people on how we should live our lives. Absolutely crazy. I'm glad they're a dying breed.

[@f0ursk1n78]

Literally. Teenagers have been having sex since the beginning of time whether it's allowed or not. No one is telling kids to have sex they are only trying to make something inevitable safe. I mean earthquakes happen but we can just put a stop to them instead we protect ourselves and try to be safe. This is the same thing. If your child is having sex nd you don't want them too then its YOUR duty as a parent to stop them and no fault of an efficient sex-ed curriculum

[@lisaspencer1057]

@@f0ursk1n78 it can also be said as the child’s parent it’s THEIR duty to decide when/where they want their kids to be taught about sex.

[@teratokomi8731]

"I dont make enough money..." says the extremely well fed teacher.

[@paigesplash7306]

As a teen, I genuinely don't think any of these adults know how smart their kids are and how much they know already. If the kids have the internet then the chances are they will have already seen more than you think they ever would have seen. Allowing kids to be comfortable to ask questions when they find out weather that be asking the teacher or parent is what I think is most important.

[@tatiairwinn]

@@mindoablues yes! Age appropriate and ethical is not only a standard set by environment and teachers, but also how the family choose to operate.

[@ericeiber4911]

As an adult (44) , there is 0% surprise that as a teen you think you know more than you feel your given credit for. This is only the oldest and longest trope given between teens and parents.

[@tomasdiaz1974]

As an adult, I KNOW that you think you know you're smarter than these adults because that's how most teenagers are...... but I also know that you're NOT smarter that these adults. You still have A LOT to learn and also a lot to unlearn. You haven't paid taxes, paid rent, utilities, health and car insurance, buy groceries for a whole family, raised children, aplied for a mortgage, had a real job, being laid off, taken care of an elder parent or a child with disabilities, balanced a budget, managed a household, dealt with lawsuits, managed a business, hired and fired people, met payroll, deal with zone enforcement, dealt with government bureaucracy, saved for retirement, managed your investment portfolio, understand the health insurance system, the difference between a Roth IRA and a regular IRA, you never had to worry about feeding your children, debt collectors, paying child support when you have no money and could go to jail, custody battles, civil lawsuits, emotional effects of relationships, miscarried a wanted child, taken a child to the hospital, had to burry your own child, planned and budget a family vacation, etc.... There's a shitload of things you haven't experienced that you know NOTHING about.

[@brittaniewhyte9183]

Thank you! Adults seem to forget just how inquisitive, critical and absorbent children are. They’re not clay you can simply mold. They require conversation. That’s why most kids have a why phase

[@XpeteypoisonX]

100% THIS. Many parents seem shockingly unaware of what could happen when they give their kid a smartphone, and even if they don't, how many of their kids' friends have access to the internet via smartphone. Being that the potential dangers of this have been completely overlooked for the past decade, parents need to be more prepared to discuss current things their kids might come across and how to deal with it, rather than blaming their ignorance on teachers or LGBTQ+ people. If kids don't feel comfortable enough discussing things with their parents, it's usually because the parents failed somewhere to provide a proper environment of trust and support imo.

[@nicolelopez4133]

Kenyon strikes me as someone who loves intensely and working with younger kids and seeing them be let down was too much. I respect that he took the time for himself before he burnt out respect ✊🏽

[@KCal1213]

I did but I couldn't deal with parents wanting me to treat their kid more special than the next. I moved on to college age and am loving it. I do choose to love my students but I don't like being told I have to care about people. - Kenyon

[@13crowintuitivestarot]

I agree. I’ll be taking up this career in a few years after I get my degree & license. His passion just pushes me harder to work for these young children instead of feel discouraged. There’s always gonna be someone that has to do it. I got that same vibe from his as well.

[@iloveutubewhileeating]

@@KCal1213 i loved you!!

[@KCal1213]

@@iloveutubewhileeating thank you Sophia. I appreciate your kind words .

[@nonchalantsavagery]

@@KCal1213You we’re amazing in this discussion very very real and unapologetic!

[@ahmede8946]

As a non-American teacher, the guns in school debate baffles me. I could never fathom the idea that gun violence is considered an inevitability in our schools. Kayla summed up that whole discussion in about 30 seconds. On a side note, Quisha says so much without saying anything

[@bokboman]

Im glad someone else talked about Quisha. She summarizes the conversation leading up to her statement, rather than making a statement.

[@katenoke1571]

Quisha and hearsay go together perfectly

[@curious6154]

Question, if a kid that is being bullied defends himself with his fists, will the kid that was getting bullied who finally defended himself get into just as much trouble as the bully? Cause this is what happens to the one who defends himself.

[@Banefulailment]

It's more of a mental health issue we never had this issue until the 1990s even though we had even greater access to guns in the past

[@ahmede8946]

@@Banefulailment Whilst it's a contributor, it's not the issue. Every nation has mental health issues, yet not every nation has gun violence issues like the US

[@RebekahFox-qi8nz]

As someone going into 8th grade this year, my health lessons in 7th grade taught how to be safe and protected. No graphic or inappropriate images were shown, just how to be safe and consent. They just wanted us to be informed, especially about STDs and possible consequences of unsafe sex. Again, it is probably different in other places, but the way these parents explained sex ed lessons seemed over the top. Side note: Also, was the question not about just sexuality? Why did the parents immediately thought it was talking about sex ed lessons and having sex?

[@emmygoldman1065]

This lady really just tried to bring up her kid’s great Florida education as if Florida doesn’t have objectively one of the worst school systems in the country 💀💀💀 pls

[@genzofthe2148]

Florida is mess 🤣🤣🤣 if she came to Texas especially here in Dallas where the best public schools are in the suburbs she’ll definitely put her kids there

[@destineyrosa7609]

I agree but Florida is also 3rd in the country for education so🫡

[@kingslei617]

@@destineyrosa7609 “me when I spread misinformation”

[@austincapps4381]

Florida is 3rd in education for K-12 and 1st in the nation in higher education. People like you are the reason social media is such a cesspool of ignorance. You say things you think will get you likes because no one holds you accountable.

[@AnthonyJMurph]

@@destineyrosa7609 That statistic takes colleges into affect which includes U of FL, Miami, FSU, and FL A&M which brings the average WAYYYYY up. Don't get it twisted, FL public schools are pretty terrible.

[@svonjai2169]

As a nursery worker I can confirm that parent overstep their boundaries all the time and I think if they’re so unhappy they should watch their kids at home

[@lordlyhawk]

Especially on the internet

[@catcowboy6376]

I am also sure that teachers overstep their boundaries all the time humans in general can be rude especially when it comes to their children. Let's not act like people that want to hurt kids don't go into industries that allow them to hurt kids there's a reason why there's laws against convicted pedophiles being teachers. For example here in Charlotte North Carolina the leader of the Charlotte business guild. who was pushing for transgender people to go to the bathroom of their choice and locker room was actually a convicted pedophile that was doing just that in the past. There are always bad people that want to exploit children and it's normally not the parents

[@svonjai2169]

@@catcowboy6376 I mean I can’t speak for the American workers or parents because I am German and live in German but we need background checks nearly yearly and we study for 5 years to work with kids. And most of the parent trust us to 100% but I think if you have no trust at all to us or normal school teachers then teach them at home.

[@catcowboy6376]

@@svonjai2169 in America they don't do background checks for example here in North Carolina they don't even do mental health screanings for public school teachers I have an acquaintance who teaches here in North Carolina and is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. I was flabbergasted when I found out but apparently in North Carolina they don't care nor check. I'm sure they do background checks of some sort but the requirements to be a teacher differ based on the institution. We have public schools charter schools magnet schools and private schools all with different requirements. My stepmom could never pass the exam but she did have a master's degree so she taught at a private school instead which she still currently teaches at.

[@arianakamran2745]

What does it mean for a parent to overstep their boundaries when it comes to their babies (you said you are working in a nursery)?

[@akihikocho4957]

Kenyon and all of the other teachers made this video bearable 😭 ! they need a raise imagine dealing with kids AND having to deal with parents like this

[@erinwhipple4666]

The essence of Kenyon’s arguments was sound, but I think his delivery came off a bit abrasive and condescending.

[@IrishGuysScarf]

​@@erinwhipple4666 If the parents are allowed to spew their uneducated beliefs around, then Kenyon should feel righteous to shut them down however 'condescending' the delivery is.

[@erinwhipple4666]

@@IrishGuysScarf everyone is “allowed” to speak however they want, this is America. I don’t agree with the substance of the conservative parents’ stance, and I am also opposed to Keyon’s delivery (despite agreeing with his overall message). I understand that he is fed up with these types of parents after all those years of teaching kids, but it’s important to maintain your grace and integrity, even when faced with ignorance.

[@starobviously4956]

@@Thelostplanet789 If the conservative was spitting facts and the liberal was spitting NONSENSE, i would totally understand being condescending.

[@teratokomi8731]

When its all broken down to base elements. The problems stem from bad parenting, bad teaching, and bad government policies.

[@Makenzie.m_13]

As a Jewish person, I am not looked at as just an American. I have been made fun of and belittled. Just because we are in America it doesn't mean the problems will go away.

[@NoName-1239]

Ok Becky lol

[@Lucas-zu3fn]

Exactly idk why the Jewish woman in this video would agree with those crazy hateful racist hogs.

[@KixsMyLocs]

These people don’t trust their kids to teach them certain topics but they trust for the teacher to have a gun.

[@tn1340]

There's a difference between a teacher who uses a gun for self defence and a teacher who pushes their agenda on kids

[@shreyasassar7111]

These parents are clowns

[@cameron856]

@@tn1340 their agenda? You class acceptance and being inclusive an agenda?

[@KixsMyLocs]

@@tn1340 and who’s to say that the teacher with a gun isnt pushing some wild conservative values and gun culture in the classroom

[@tn1340]

@@KixsMyLocs then thats equally bad. But this is a Liberal teachers vs Conservative parents video, not the other way around

[@byekitty5153]

Isn't it crazy how all these weird instances in classrooms that conservatives bring up I can never find anyone else who recalls such bizarre events?

[@NoName-1239]

That’s because you stay watching cnn and a bunch of other liberal crap like the young Turks

[@joespice785]

Look up libs of tiktok or parent school meetings where they review certain books like "Gender Queer" in school libraries.

[@lemonpartyfan457]

@@joespice785 oh no! A book is available in a library! Why don't you burn it

[@Karak971]

@@joespice785 Mein Kampf is also available in many school libraries, where do you plan on going with this?

[@biankagranados4858]

@@joespice785 it’s a book😂😂

[@amandakidwell1740]

When iwas in middle school, back in the early 90s, i asked my science teacher who he voted for for president. He did NOR want to inpress upon me his political views, and he DECLINED TO ANSWER. I had SOOOO mich respect for him because of that!!!!

[@sylvia1797]

As some others have said, a lot of the more sexually explicit content the parents are talking about comes from friends, social media, internet, etc., not the school. The parents just choose to attack and try to police the school because, at the end of the day, it's a lot harder to control what their child is viewing or who they are hanging out with when they're away for eight hours a day.

[@April-Marie_]

It’s also different for adults in position of authority to be exposing kids to this versus peers. There’s a big difference.

[@user-vg8ez9cu6u]

But the school "cosigns" the nonsense the child is learning from culture by reinforcing it in the classroom. Parents don't want you to do that. Just teach to the four corners of the book. Reading. Writing and Arithmetic. Parents can handle the rest.

[@royroy3]

@@user-vg8ez9cu6u Really now? Is that so. Mind telling us all about your many years as an educator in the field. Your comment is like saying you know how to play professional Basketball but you never even stepped foot in the arena. Get the f outta here 🤣

[@quesostuff1009]

You don’t think socially we shouldn’t reduce access of pornography for the youth?

[@soulresonance4073]

These parents won’t let these teachers even finish their point. A perfect representation of how teachers are treated by Parents and Karens. Like punching bags.

[@BroJo676]

It mroe so is the other way around with the Black teacher.

[@BlackStar-hy1iy]

@@BroJo676 he was fed up

[@KarlSnarks]

@@BlackStar-hy1iy He's a mood 😂

[@paigelang8242]

@@BroJo676 once you work at the college level, you no longer have to censor yourself around parents 😂

[@rockyember]

if kids are curious and don’t have a way of receiving that information from school or parents, they are still gonna find a way of learning, whether it’s from their peers, the internet, etc.

[@opheliasrue]

Exactly, we need teachers to teach these topics in a safe environment

[@JoseOmarMenjivar]

It' would be cool to also have the none edited version of this and/or all conversations.

[@arrijackson5405]

that black lady is insane… “so you’re not oppressed?” what does that have to do with anything!!!?? even the lady next to her is like chill

[@KCal1213]

I ignored her comment. It was four hours of her and the guy and I had to check them both a couple of times.

[@natty825]

@@KCal1213 you are such an icon ken, i really appreciate you

[@MegaFELIPE48]

Quisha simply does not get it and neither her conservative peers.

[@aaygeo]

@@MegaFELIPE48 she does not get her oppression? Is that what you are saying. How dare a black woman have a different opinion, they are so brainwashed and need white saviors to educate them on the correct view they should have...

[@alecxanderthegreat]

"who is enforcing that boundary?" "the law" 💀

[@JDUCSUDMU38948]

LITERALLY!! like and homie tried to keep going, like bro that was a full stop moment if i ever hear one

[@andrewp.5079]

It used to be illegal to get married and be gay…laws change

[@Blossom702]

Unfortunately, laws do change.. You’d be surprised.

[@auratess6101]

for real that one parent was so obsessed with the idea of pedophilia… someone check his search history

[@icedayhavean]

The laws in California which are decriminalizing sex acts with minors?

[@Mia-fv3ij]

kudos to the teachers i can’t imagine having to deal with parents like this

[@florallyclover]

fr i was getting so mad just listening to them

[@blueglass1163]

They literally just have to not push LGBT and woke garbage and parents wouldn’t have a problem

[@blueglass1163]

@@florallyclover Why? Are you mad that parents don’t want their kids indoctrinated to woke lgbt nonsense?

[@blethr]

that’s what i’m saying

[@florallyclover]

@@blueglass1163 because i don’t think it is woke nonsense to tell kids that lgbt people exist when science literally proves that sexuality is not a choice and also how studies have proven that same sex couples make competent parents

[@Militant_Vegan]

“I have a student who doesn’t have a family. He told me the other day *I don’t have a dad.* I said *I’ll be ur father*” bro I’m gonna cryyyy 😭😭

[@charmriah3607]

How Shaun went from having two dads to abortion in high school is actually beyond me

[@cursed-cat9126]

I bet he never heard of teen pregnancy

[@soggienaznazi]

And there he was going on about critical thinking 😂

[@pinkosmondfan]

It made perfect sense to me. Were you listening?

[@SupremeRulerChaos]

Clearly you were not listening! It´s a perfectly logical argument to make. It´s always a slippery slope with those progressive ideas! First they ask for tolerance towards gay people but now you are a bigot if you object to kids being in drag shows or surrounded by fetish gear in pride parades! If what he said was so egregious why did not those liberal teachers just said no to his question?!

[@Astrohideaki]

lmao thats what im saying i was so confused when he said that

[@iona6558]

Quisha puzzled me the most bc sometimes she’d literally just rephrase what the liberal side said but then stand as if she’s opposing them… it was like she was accidentally agreeing 😂 like ma’am please collect your thoughts.

[@Social_Pugatory]

Quisha is just mainly against “CRT” and anything that looks like or is adjacent to that must go because much like the rest of the conservatives she is working backward from her already held beliefs and conclusions instead of looking at the data and wanting to come together and collectively find solutions to those systematic issues. It’s much easier to BAN the ideological framework that EXPOSED these systemic disparities to is that just so happen to fall along racial and socioeconomic lines instead of embracing that framework TO FIX the issues.

[@liljeromebettis]

She’s confused

[@jadesmith7983]

Yea. She is just too angry to have a reasonable argument.

[@fireman12384]

She's giving Uncle Tom honestly siding with the conservatives while maintaining the opinions of liberals

[@jaydr16]

@@fireman12384 you know uncle Tom is the hero in the story

[@camryn6755]

This discussion is the problem now. There are kids in middle school that can’t even read on a third grade level and the biggest concern is sexuality?? We are failing these children.

[@lyssdare]

Thank you.

[@2007silver1]

The dude saying teachers have a 3 month vacation told me everything I needed to know

[@Criner05]

Though it's not three months, teachers do get a ton of vacation time.

[@privacyplease1556]

As opposed to every other job where the adults have to go to work every day lol

[@eolay4411]

@@Criner05 in the UK - 6 weeks summer holiday usually and during those 6 weeks prepping for the new year, marking papers and exams, as well as training. Compared to non teachers 28 - 30 days annual leave its not that big of a difference, I can imagine its the similar in the US.

[@siwamoon5353]

@@privacyplease1556 MANY teachers pick up extra jobs during these months. My dad's a teacher he had to do instacart and more over the summer while still going into work.

[@catsmom129]

@@eolay4411 the U.S. is less standardized, so your vacation time depends on where you work. But yes, a lot of a teacher’s job is outside school hours, and some people don’t seem to understand that.

[@rideflyer]

I like how the discussions between teenagers on jubilee seem to be more civil than most of the conversations involving adults. I feel like people who are more experienced in life go in with a set of values that make it hard for them to try and hear out the other side causing them to react emotionally if someone disagrees with them rather than just asking a follow up question to get a better understanding.

[@Paul2377]

Agreed! This discussion was quite abrasive at times. I didn't come away thinking any of these people learnt anything or changed their minds even slightly. They all seemed entrenched in their views.

[@YightLagami]

The republican blonde woman is a conservative talking point for Prager u. She has a conservative agenda

[@rachl_baegl]

"how do you know ur not lesbian if you dont kiss a girl?" "how do u know u dont wanna be in a monogamous relationship if u dont sleep around" how do u know ur tired if you dont stay up? how do you know ur hungry if you dont starve?

[@thatcrazywolf]

For sexuality if you know you know.

[@W42ny]

What? That makes absolutely no sense. You're comparing two totally different ideas.

[@mohammadyusufkhan6677]

Literally, I mean ohh I'm here, just gotta say something, so let's say anything No sense

[@ily5540]

@@W42ny would you apply the same logic to straight virgins, how do those straight virgins know they aren’t gay if they never slept with anyone?

[@brwnv3nting404]

I think you just know your sexuality

[@turbotreehouse9780]

So glad I escaped the cult of Christianity.

[@ianmilligan8305]

How do these parents say, "stop teaching your agenda," while also saying, "I tell my children they can ONLY be straight!"

[@chaishayla]

That's an issue with religion, not parenting.

[@ianmilligan8305]

@Shayla Chaichalad in 2023 that's not a valid excuse anymore

[@Pinkuooo-l1y]

@@ianmilligan8305 kids should not be gay or lgbtq aka delusional parents are allowed to teach their kids teachers shold not influence children

[@yaraaff]

@@ianmilligan8305 so should i change my religion beliefs also cause it’s 2023?

[@ianmilligan8305]

@Yara Alharbi if your religion says that an inate, unchangeable characteristic of a human is a sin, then yes