Budget Sub Took 10x its Rated Power? The *ALL NEW* Dayton Audio Max-X MX Subwoofer Review!

[@rowboyto156]

klippel certified shows that the t/s parameters are correct coming from the build house. erins audio corner klippel test a skar sub and the t/s parameters were way off from whats on the box

[@jaz97]

Dayton been making good subs for years. I like those flat(ish) cones they have on the UM series.

[@DracolegacyOfficial]

thats actually the dust cap, its most noticeable on the models with the paper cones with carbon fiber dust caps

[@7thsoneli]

@@DracolegacyOfficial NVX vsx series look the same!

[@LunchMoney108]

@@7thsoneli this has a better motor and more excursion. But I enjoy my NVX VSW12

[@Acoustic_Theory]

@@DracolegacyOfficial Dayton Audio uses a three-layer Nomex honeycomb and glass fiber sandwich cone in the Ultimax subs. Not a cosmetic-only dust cap. A small, very dense paper cone is used to transmit force from the voice coil to the dish cone. The Max-X have a paper cone with a cosmetic dish dust cap. It's also beneficial for making the whole cone assembly more rigid.

[@skaterpro574]

getting my ulti max soon 😎

[@Avaddon911]

If you have that issue again maybe slap a sticker in the middle of the dustcap for filming

[@MannuhFestIt]

What’s great about Dayton Audio is that they’re also known for their amazing sq. So for this sub to take THAT much power and put up those kinds of numbers? You got yourself a nice low budget daily sq setup which is saying a lot considering how much money is put into those high quality sq systems.

[@Chuck_Sanders]

This sub, compared to the CompQ Kicker....interesting of power handling and sound quality, is a no Brainer. Dayton is known for SQ, and it's half the price of a CompQ. I've owned many Dayton subs, and never let down.

[@Acoustic_Theory]

Speakers without a visible outside logo are more common in hi-fi, home theater, and pro audio, where visible logos are considered to be distracting.

[@ahollingshead]

You should test the Dayton audio ultimax 12 for comparisons and the 21in kraken

[@dynagroove1.020]

I agree.

[@JoshM7]

I have a pair of them and they're amazing. Would be fun to see him try one out. I also have the 10" and 18" and they're also amazing. I think I asked in the past if he could try out an Ultimax Sub, but it's not like he can always spend money for every comment telling him to try out "insert sub here" because he'd be broke haha.

[@RobertMichaelPhotography]

See if they will send you an ultimax. Would love to see the comparison. Also wondering if the sub would have been louder on the meter in the custom box

[@waynsmith9538]

Dayton audio is back on the scene and sounding mean!

[@georgesrisomsak9650]

I've done tons of setups with ultimax and others, and they always delivered. I think these Fanboy companies charge way too much for thier names. Giving new value to audio. I sure like the blank cap too! Clean! Clean as those glue joints!

[@jeffreybradley3736]

Perfect timing . I started looking for reviews of this sub yesterday . Thanks

[@dustypotter926]

I have the Ultimax 10. Very nice subs for the money.

[@ceavalencia4767]

What is the rated rms? Popped my skar ddx with a skar 3500.1..

[@crikstrucks2409]

@@ceavalencia4767 it’s not about the rms, you just need to spend a little more time learning about amps

[@Ifimay1621]

Is it a musical sub?

[@dustypotter926]

@@Ifimay1621 it good sound quality wise, spl wise it is mediocre honestly. I traded it out for a Adire KH501 and it is a lot louder. Same box, amp, car.

[@DaytonAudioOfficial]

Sooooo many watts. Thanks for the review Parker!

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Thanks for the sub!

[@mckeanbrosoffroad150]

Love my Dayton subs. I have a 15" Titanic (old version of the Ultimax 15) in my home for audio and home theater. It's driven by a Parts Express 1000w watt plate Amp (640 w continuous) in a sealed box I built. It's been in use for 12-15 years. Great sound quality and takes all the abuse I throw at it. I also run one of their 12" sound quality subs in my truck driven by a 500w Alpine mono Amp. It's around 3 years old. Both offer great sound quality but still hit nice, tight, and hard. They aren't SPL monsters, don't look sexy, but have great sound quality, are very reliable, and represent a fantastic value. These are exactly the kind of subs you want if you want the best for your money and care about sound quality, not just one note wonder SPL subs.

[@athotboy5050]

I'm a simple man, I see a new battery in the multimeter. I grab a beer, and smash that like button.

[@jasoncoyman6069]

You can use some scraps of 2 x 4 to add volume to your test boxes, that way you can get the boxes closer to optimal volume.

[@HashDogg06]

That's what i do too. He also had the sub facing up rather than facing back like he sometimes does so may have done a 140.

[@andrewwallis7574]

I have a set of Ultimax's and they are surprisingly loud. I'm easily pushing their rated max to each one as rms if not more on a Taramp 8k. Of course it's not full on. And definitely have been lasting after being beat on like this for 6mnth. Never thought they were loud. But windy... Most Definitely. Thanks Parker for being diverse in what u test

[@TubaNinja164]

What size UM's and what is their enclosure tuned to?

[@TherealToppo]

That's a beautiful design, simple.

[@billy3650]

I've always heard that Dayton Audio subs were good. Good review bro👍

[@Kcducttaper1]

RMS is often thermal, so the sub is 'rated' to handle 600w of constant power from a thermal perspective. What you're testing is more along the lines of 'program' power, which is a quick burst of power for usually 1/2 second or so. Program power is quite a bit higher than RMS power simply because you don't have enough time to build up any heat in the motor structure. That said, Dayton does make some very good stuff for the money and I'm always impressed with their drivers!

[@filibertofonseca8083]

In case you are wondering why the subwoofer does not have a dust cap Ill fill you in. Not having a dust cap drops weight and overall the best part of it is it making the cone more rigid therefore improving performance.

[@notsure7029]

Dude I wish you would test the 15 inch model. For $200 it looks like a beast.

[@snauspockets9924]

I have the 15-in version of the box he's using in this video and I was just thinking the same thing.

[@doddgarger6806]

@@snauspockets9924 is it as clean as a TC sounds epic? They were majorly respected for how much power they can do and how accurate they were

[@AtarTube]

I have heard good things about Dayton. This video sealed the deal for me. What an impressive show of the quality!

[@DavidJones-le4li]

I like the slick look of that sub.. good content stay blessed my friend

[@TheCustomEverythingChannel]

Did I miss it ? Who won the kicker comp Q giveaway?

[@miguelangelaviles4886]

Another badass review by the homie Parker shout put from Los Angeles my boy keep up the great content👌🏼

[@benluster8058]

Is it made for car audio applications? Not sure I would use it in a vehicle, but definitely in my home. Thanks for showcasing it.

[@dietrichwilliams2913]

I subscribed to you're channel when you had 800 subs!, Man, you're really getting car audio now!!!

[@pokeblader3793]

I love Dayton subs I use them in my doors I'd love to see the ultimax 12 tested always loved the way they looked

[@hbn_666]

Ultimax 12” needs 5-6 cubes and tuned to 17hz-20hz or it won’t do what it’s supposed to do

[@pokeblader3793]

@@hbn_666 true but it would still be fun to see

[@hbn_666]

@@pokeblader3793 yea it’ll be fun to see but a lot of ppl on here don’t realize how much space the Ultimax subs need I talked to one dude and I said 10-15 cubes for the 18” he called me crazy and all types of stuff 🤣

[@davidlewis8124]

I love parts Express I've used them for years on and off now it's back on thanks Parker for the review and parts Express peace and love.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

You are welcome man!

[@Guiltless765]

Nice channel growth. I remember when you 1st started.🍻

[@jimmymounts9832]

Great video as always. How about trying the SPL test with sub facing the rear of the car.

[@jhoffdog79]

It helps with excursion demos on some speakers if you put a white dot sticker on the cone so the camera can pick it up easier.

[@lttexas8822]

Great test as always, I liked how you gave it that extra push, so we can see the possible long term build quality if ran just at normal specs.

[@supadupa6891]

7000+ on this is stupid and insane at the same time. Killer work Parker!

[@chrisperez7592]

Nice review Parker... You gave that MX12 a beating! Thanks man!

[@cragre28]

I am running a Kraken 21" in my truck and an Ultimax 18 in my HT. The Dayton subs are very good subs. I would love to try 3 of the new Max 12s in my truck.

[@patricksimpson4700]

Some Fosgate or MTX or Gravity im ready for those. That sub looks kinda like the xr

[@JoshM7]

There's a reason all I use is Dayton Audio subs. ;) I have my Ultimax 10" tuned to 19Hz using passive radiators and it sounds as good as the old Sealed box I had it in. And kills the lows.

[@bones40447]

What size and how many radiators? Just one 10?

[@JoshM7]

@@bones40447 Single Ultimax 10 with 3 10" Dayton passive radiators. (Can also be done cheaper with a single 15" Dayton passive radiator) If you want to know the specific radiators let me know. I have a few videos of it on my channel if you want to see it. Though I don't want this comment to like like I'm trying to advertise the channel. It's just where I dump what I think is neat with my subs.

[@keyz147]

Can you do a gravity audio sub 🙏🏽🙏🏽 thinking of getting some

[@squeezy1985]

I know you did a video awhile back best budget 12 inch sub under 100. But would you still say audiopipe?

[@williamtoth6186]

Thanks Parker! This thing just dropped glad see it getting used

[@AALavdas]

Dayton is a really serious manufacturer. Not flashy looking nonsense, just good quality build and good value for money.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Agreed!

[@RJSDZNS]

Wow! Can't believe a Dayton did that much power!! Really like a logo'd dust cap though. Maybe I'm old school🙂

[@hazepheno925]

Dayton makes excellent affordable products. Not necessarily geared to Car audio specifically. DIY, Home Hifi, SQ guys have been using their drivers for well over a decade. I have their 1000w RMS home sub amp (SA1000) and it's been driving a single ported JBL W15GTI MK2 for nearly 10 years daily with zero issues. Probably closing in on 25,000 hours use.

[@filibertofonseca8083]

Not having dust caps makes the cone lighter and stronger.

[@RJSDZNS]

@@hazepheno925 wow!! I didn't know about Dayton until recently. Sounds like they are a very good and reliable brand that kinda hangs back from the crowd.

[@RJSDZNS]

@@filibertofonseca8083 I did not know that. Thank you for the knowledge sir☺️

[@jdrissel]

Make a stencil and airbrush your own logo if that's what you want.

[@analogaudiorules1724]

Always Love Daytons products, its nice to see a rubber surround in a car sub instead of the usual crappy foam!

[@pyukumuku9599]

I heard of their home audio stuff but never knew they did car audio subs.

[@hbn_666]

Not really car audio a sub is a sub just like a “car” sub in home is a thing a “home” sub can be put in a car

[@tommyK7282]

I'm getting a Dayton Audio RSS315HE-22 running it on a SKAR AUDIO RP-1500.1D in my 2002 Cavalier LS. Box is 1.75 turned at 35hz

[@haroldhprittjr7007]

I like the cone that way it should definitely make the voice coil more safe ! I see it moving in and out straight like no warping as you see others ! When I see them warping and rolling the way they do I think wow man what’s going on with the voice coil back there in the motor it’s gotta be pushing it all around maybe getting close to touching or rubbing inside the motor ! Yeah this sub kicks ass for the price for what you get and what it can handle ! Good box and 1-3 more of them and a 4-8k amp yeah they would know you were coming a good little bit before u get there ! Great job Parker can’t wait to see all the new ones coming up come out !

[@isaiahswygart3936]

This was a awesome video! Dayton audio seems like a great sub to get.

[@mattsnider5904]

I want to see someone do a review on the Parts express 21 inch Kraken subwoofer. It says it can push 7 liters of air. Not sure if that's good compared to other subs, but it weighs over 100 pounds. Do maybe it's built well.

[@buddybeavers2691]

It seemed to have better SQ than most all the other subs you have tested.

[@thugchld]

I'm about to buy two of these. However I'll have to get a new amp to be able to push that kind of power to them.

[@davidwillis5116]

I live in dayton shot out 2 you for pushin the sub a little harder 💪 and I have had those tabs break off c u on the next 1

[@spec1923]

I have a little DCS 255 10 Inch sub and I love it.

[@cargatube4473]

Man I love the energy you have and passion for the bass head life great video I’m running 2 15” sdr skar subs

[@lessthan3lee946]

That Skar box is sold a lot.I have one and will be cutting the tabs off the top and bottom to fit my new 12 Sundown U series. If I was near you I would let you test it.

[@superspeeder]

Why do you test with another sub enclosure in the car? The other enclosure will act as a resonant bass trap and absorb energy from the sub that's playing, even if the leads are shorted out. Have you tested to make sure this is not an issue? If so, disregard my comment. I have not tested this, but without seeing good test results to prove it's not an issue I would assume it is.

[@2010HarleyDynaFXD]

One thing I notice car audio and pro audio/home audio test RMS differently. I think all audio car, home and pro should be able to handle the RMS rating for 2 hours straight on woofers and subwoofers.

[@raulfernandez9111]

That’s where the ohms come in.

[@2010HarleyDynaFXD]

@@raulfernandez9111 Yea but most of all the main name brand Pro Audio subwoofers can handle their power rating for 2 hours straight you don't see that too much on car audio subwoofers just saying.

[@bailey2517]

@@2010HarleyDynaFXD Interesting, what would you estimate this subs RMS to be if it were rated by a car audio company? 800? maybe even 900 or 1000rms?? I'm wondering because it has a 2.5" VC so seems like it should take 800rms just fine.

[@Clobercow1]

FS is not 'frequency response'. It's the resonant frequency of the woofer. Klippel is a sophisticated measurement system that can be trusted.

[@domyanez7301]

Was wondering about this sub. Thx 4 the vid

[@filibertofonseca8083]

The pointer surround is a called a progressive surround and the other wider surround is called a linear surround. Each serves a purpose

[@luke144]

Dayton has always provided great quality! Their crossovers suck but their drivers are in my favorites. I have a lot of their drivers at my house. SQ AF!

[@TrollRaper69]

Audiopipe bdc4 has a flat cone as well if im not mistaken!

[@doddgarger6806]

15 has 90db efficiency and 24mm one way xmax it outta really get down but how clean do they play?

[@stevenpreece1472]

I absolutely love these subs. Great video again bud.

[@annihilationindustries1990]

Free air or FS look up what happens when it reaches that frequency . The subwoofer moves the least amount and yet still produces good bass

[@ralphmartinsios-e758]

Can i make this as a replacement for my busted bose f1 subwoofer?

[@SBK_ALL_DAY]

gaurantee if the port was back it woul dhave done a 140, port up is not loading off anything

[@delvinchandler]

I saw these things, I got my x12's but for the price try these boys out.

[@MikeAnnunziato]

You do alot of stuff that i have questions about thanks Parker 👍

[@djbudikane]

Great videos. I’m researching for my next system. I’m learning a lot keep it up

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Good to hear man!!

[@vinsondelrio4401]

I think this would be considered more of a Flat Piston style cone similar to the Precision Power Piston subs, accurate and tight bass excursion control

[@Gqsfinest]

Thank you for the video. I came across this sub on 050421 and told my friends it was a sleeper sub imo that most people have not heard about. It's not a sleeper sub anymore 😂. Hopefully the price won't go up $50 or so or sell out after people see this video.

[@travisj.1938]

I heard Dayton audio is great for sound quality is this true? Im not looking for Db I want something that hits but sounds good aswell

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Yes they definitely seem to be focused on SQ instead of SPL

[@johngray2526]

Parker young man I'm 55 years old and a music guy will you please tell me what SMD you have hooked up to the system I just have a double din deck 1 solo baric l7 10 subwoofer... 2 door speakers 2 pillar speakers and 1 amp it sounds good but I know it'll sound better if I can get my hands on the right SMD need your help if u can thanks and keep up the good work parker

[@adampaffrath4299]

Nice video man! Would love to def see you do other old school companies coming back like cerwin Vega or Orion or mtx and see if new stuff can hold candle to new schoool stuff. Also would be awesome to see when you get the 4ch rocking and rolling component comparison like skar , ct sounds...

[@marcjohnson5148]

Great review again, Parker. Thanks for sharing.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

You are welcome!

[@southernslangerz2254]

Hey Parker. I have a 2012 Sequoia...want to do (2) 8” subs in the back compartment that is cut into the floor. Any recommendations? I was thinking the Skar ZVX8 but I’d like to hear your opinion.

[@Russell_and_Rosko]

The mx15 should also be a banger. The only potential issue I see is the stamped steel basket handling the heavier cone/diaphragm when fed higher than rated power. I’ve seen other stamped steel frames/baskets crack and split when over powered (Soundqubed 3.115 on more than 2k power). Huge motors combined with a large diameter cone (15”/18”) on a stamped steel basket is a recipe for potential damage. I would love to see a test of the mx15 and also any of the UM ultimax series subs. Also, soundqubes 8” (hds208?) with the cast frame is supposed to be a little monster, especially when running multiple with double the rated power. Keep the test’s/comparo’s coming!

[@greenbassboosts8872]

Your car is made out of stamped metal, probably steel. It can be made quite strong for different appications

[@Russell_and_Rosko]

@@greenbassboosts8872 You must not be a car guy. Unibodies flex under load…quite substantially. Torsional rigidity is a measurement done on performance car chassis because of the twisting that happens while cornering, hitting a bump etc. Repeatedly fatigued stamped steel peels/splits. There’s a reason why high end drivers are made with cast baskets. No offense. I understand stamped steel baskets are prevalent, but they have issues when used with a lot of power at low frequencies supporting a heavy diaphragm, especially if clipped or outputting heavy distortion.

[@Russell_and_Rosko]

@@greenbassboosts8872 I had to follow up and say that the flex in the basket has to be taken into account to prevent voice coil rubbing ie the gap in the voice coil has to be increased on stamped steel drivers but when designing a speaker with a cast basket the tolerances can be made tighter which increases the BL measurement (motor strength)

[@greenbassboosts8872]

@@Russell_and_Rosko If the basket has issues then it is a poorly designed and inadequate basket whether it is steel or aluminum. I was trying to get the point across that steel baskets are not all alike. The basket on this Dayton driver is likely made of thicker steel and much more rigid than my $20 GRS drivers rated at 120 Watts, and the Dayton just took 7k Watts without breaking or anything becoming noticeably damaged. I think there's an effect on the opinions of steel baskets because they end up on cheap drivers often. I think they can be just as good as the aluminum ones. I am a car guy, so I see your point about rigidity as generally true but possibly not applicable. Subwoofers experience basically no torsional force, and car bodies made of aluminum still flex. For the shape of a subwoofer basket, steel is a good material as long as it is designed well and appropriate thickness. I wouldn't worry about a basket just because it is steel. I have quite a few drivers all of which are steel baskets except one which is actually plastic. I've noted zero problems with the baskets on any of them, and it seems this Dayton driver is doing just fine with it's steel basket. If it works, and it's less expensive, why should I find issues with that? Almost always when I see a basket break it is the fault of the box baffle flexing or the driver was dropped. Otherwise, seems baskets very rarely break.

[@anglerandy5736]

U think it's cool to run this consistently at 1000w 1 ohm? I have a rockville krypton m3 4000w amp and it's only 400w rms at 4 ohms but it's 1000w at 1 ohm. The sub is only rated for 600wrms so I'm kinda nervous.

[@ronaldalcorn8060]

athats not a one piece dust cap, it just has no cap. Its solid cone

[@chrisperez7592]

What you see on the front of the Max-X drivers is actually one large dust cap that completely fills the cone. Underneath that dust cap is a standard cone. It gives them the one piece dish cone look, but they are much easier to manufacture and the gap can be tighter. Centering the coil is done with standard shims so the gap can be tighter then using a one piece dish (with that type of diaphragm keeping the coil centered in the gap is very difficult since there is no way to shim the coil during assembly, so you need a larger gap or you have deal with a larger number of rejects... Well, shims are possible, but you need a huge pole vent... TC Sounds used to do it). Plus the large dust cap adds a lot of reinforcement to the cone, it is essentially a sandwich cone because there is so much contact surface area on the outside edge.

[@ronaldalcorn8060]

@@chrisperez7592 oh cool. Interesting! thx for the insight, you should do reviews in depth like tat!!! USE YOUR KN

[@cgmsounds]

Amazing content. As always.

[@darksidefordinner5170]

Can't wait to get my set of BB2s off ya!! Thanks for the subs and content brotha #basslyfe

[@glengatt3941]

And you have to be from the US to get a chance of winning right??

[@paquesepas6696]

How is the sq on this sub compared to the kicker q? As also loudness

[@nicholasgilson6745]

I've been debating in these or the new toros or deaf bonce but all I can afford from them is there lower end line. What would your recommend I want sql and I listen to metal and rap. Good video as always!!

[@rowboyto156]

ask the company if their sub has a linear spider. linear spiders are more for sq or sql. if the spiders are progressive its more for spl

[@imBriz]

for sql go daytons

[@Van1018s]

Seems like a decent sub for the price. I’m impressed that spider didn’t let loose at 7000 watts. It looks like the weak point of the sub.

[@dynagroove1.020]

Love Dayton Audio... I run in home and car. Wish Dayton Audio made car amps and head units.

[@dynagroove1.020]

I’m using ultimax with reference subs. AMT tweets with neo mids and fabric mid domes. Shake the block nice. I’m getting a new ride and I’m going to get a pair of these for sure.

[@imBriz]

you can have a dayton "head unit" its a DSP-408

[@etclaussen]

I like the Dayton subs. Nice to spend my money on what makes it sound good instead of flashy graphics or chrome.

[@fitzcannon6593]

I know I keep saying this but I think that you should do the t5 tarantula soundstream they will suprise you with.all the power they handle

[@Rchan925]

It reminds me of a jl audio w6. I wonder how it would compare

[@basslifexxl2391]

LMAO

[@robyncollins114]

Reminds me of TC sounds subs from the with stamps basket...

[@Clobercow1]

Why did you only run it with one voice coil?

[@jacobywalker8859]

What is the Gucci mane song u play in alot of your video??

[@robsorgdrager8477]

Just started this video. Dude, parker I picked up two of the mx-10's and ooooooooooooh my Lord, these things are jack hammers. I'm pretty sure I'll be needing a better amp. From what I can tell the " ultimax " has a flatter response but this thing in a 1.0 sealed ( 10's ) box murder lows it's redonkulous .

[@bailey2517]

How many watts rms do you play them on? And whats the port size/diameter?

[@robsorgdrager8477]

@@bailey2517 I am putting around 500-600 rms each . Sealed is the best way to run these. They prolly get wicked loud ported but I run 10's ( adding a third soon ) they just seem to really like the small enclosure. I have zero complaints with these Dayton subs.

[@1ohmwrecker]

Do gotta say, I miss you doing some install stuff. Some wiring, building batteries, box making, etc like you used to do. You should sound deaden ur suv! I know ur in the big leagues now, but noico has the most for your money of quality sound deadener! Even tho someone will probably give u something free just if u make a video of it.

[@kylemesser4281]

Nice I like Dayton stuff good video, the 15 looks really nice

[@Ogdenjor08]

You should check out the Timpano TPT-TSUB12 off of parts-express. Looks like a good budget banger.

[@spencerboaz2385]

It would be hard to find a better sub at that price . I bought 2 of these for subs in my home system putting a Crown 1500 rms amp on them . This is for SQ . Think I'm going to run them sealed in about 2 cf with a lot of polyfill . The amp will be crossed at 100 to 110. The other speakers are all Dayton RS a 10 two 6.5 and ribbon tweets . All speakers will be in their own enclosure's . I have 2 sets of Dayton 3 way crossovers I will try both to see what sounds best . All I need now is the inspiration to get out there and build all those boxes lol .

[@jasonkrage5273]

Ole daton blast from the past

[@ogd]

good content homie keep it up! love from OGD🙏🏾💯