AGM vs Lithium! Head to Head Test | Headway HP LiFoPo4 | Car Audio

[@MuffinSlayerrHD]

Why hasn’t this dude blown up yet? Some of the most straight forward info on KZbin with no bs

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

I really appreciate you man! 💯

[@MuffinSlayerrHD]

Parker Dacchille I appreciate you bro, please keep up the content 🙏

[@RyanBassForLife]

Your the next Jacob Viral

[@MuffinSlayerrHD]

Ryan Bass For Life J Virals good but they post different content. J posts demo vids and a few projects here and there, but Parker is all about the projects which is why I watch him a bunch

[@RyanBassForLife]

@@MuffinSlayerrHD your right I love Jacobs demo video a day I'm probably going to watch his video right after I right this comment. Parker is good at sub reviews and fun projects.

[@baileybasshead8762]

Yeah it's good to see bassheads happy. Parker looked like he had Xmas for Easter...

[@baileybasshead8762]

@Kyles Isler damn bro, it shouldn't take quarantine to do that but either way glad you're back

[@drvictoria07]

My voltage stays at 13.8 when I bang my system. Stock electrical with two AGM batteries and Big 3 upgrade!!

[@spagsketti]

Back in the day (1990's) I had a 1972 BMW 2002 and I removed the back seat and put two 6v semi truck batteries in series. Was the strongest 12v power i could muster up back then. I never had to worry about drain if my vehicle was off and I wanted to listen to music. I had two 10" subs in a bandpass box It was 20+ years ago so don't remember what order the box was and what amps or speakers I had. Bandpass was just becoming a mainstream design around 1995 when I was in my mid 20's. Hey i remember the first video game ever made.......PONG, yup, PONG. I seen the birth of car audio from the old kraco equalizer amplifiers, Old school Soundstream reference series to Hart subwoofers that you could plug into a 110v wall socket and not blow them. (according to the manufacturer). A time when Hifonics was the sh!t and not made in china (damn that makes me sound old). I used to build my own passive crossovers with caps and coils so my speakers would never see frequencies they couldn't produce on top of the electronic ones. I remember when amplifiers did not have built in crossovers you had to build yourself passive crossovers or add a extra powered crossover in the mix with your amps. 30 feet of extra wire to run that spaghetti mess. This will age me, I remember driving in my dads old dodge pickup truck listening to Johnny Cash on an 8 track player with 6x9 speakers behind the seat and you could still buy 8 track albums in the store..... Thank God for MP3 and streaming on my cellphone. I remember the first cellphones were a suitcase battery pack and the actual phone was 5lbs costing you $5 a min. to talk (might be exaggerating there but it was expensive) Car audio has come a long way since then. Well I am going to go grab my cane and hobble over there.......

[@catherineharris4746]

So true!😂😂😂👍

[@bassface1984]

Glad to see that I'm not the only old dog that still a basshead at 54.My neighbors think I'm weird because of listening to music and constantly installing different shit in my rides.Hopefully I go out of this world bumping down the street.

[@justfasial01]

Hey parker, i think If you just had the Lithium batteries in without the AGM the voltage will probably stay higher. The AGMs are seen as a load for the lithium and they will drain the lithium when the bass hits. Maybe try the test with just the lithium connected? I'm building a 16v 200ah LiFePo4 pack for my next system.

[@youdrop]

how much are you planning on spending for just your charging side of the build?? haha good luck to you brother!

[@justfasial01]

@@youdrop I have the cells and still planning on the charging in car solution. Can charge outside the car with just a CC CV power supply.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Yes voltage might stay a little higher but having the extra batteries gives more reserve

[@jihartbladhest2749]

@@ParkerTheBasshead yes but its a constant drain on the lipo. they're always fighting each other for equilibrium.

[@jihartbladhest2749]

@@ParkerTheBasshead hey parker, say I spent 500 on lipo, and I'm already running two agm xs power bats (d4700 and a xp3000) (well over 600 in batteries alone) do you think 500 in lipo would put perform my agm?

[@bobbyhorton4034]

Finally got that mess slapping. Go Parker go Parker, it's your birthday

[@willc4496]

I know people.mentioned it before, it would be interesting to see if there is any difference when you put the POS.and negative on different sides of the bank,.or change the.orientation of.the lithium

[@b-ryepeasy6048]

Parker your freaken awesome. Thanks for the video. Gotta love those lithium cells. Looking forward to the next video always.

[@joeanderson444]

I thought the Taramps amplifiers weren't good to attach to the box because of their sensitivity to vibration causing problems on the circuit board!

[@jeffmeredith9094]

I didnt know you could hook up a AGM battery and a lithium in the back like that... i have a optima yellow top battery and a glowe industries voltage lithium battery can i hook them up in the back together???

[@TheCustomEverythingChannel]

And contact JS Alternators they in Simpsonville SC i just got a 400amp for 524 thats shipping to best company

[@Sawyer0608]

How’s your alt holding up? Thinking about getting a JS

[@timothybeaudoin4315]

Hell yeah I just got one from him. #803

[@timothybeaudoin4315]

@@Sawyer0608 I’ve had one for a while been doing great

[@SamuelHollandsh]

Nice,thx for sharing, I'd be interested in how this continues to progress. I have a agm with ultracap and wanted to put a lithium bank inline.👍

[@jerryburchard1512]

You should have done a power test with the old battery with the new one to see if you gained any more watts

[@jerryburchard1512]

@UCLWOuRMHjUcosDim0AdDPRA I think it might have better voltage without all the AGM and just the lithium and a better alt I think he would be better holding voltage

[@catch22frubert]

He definitely gained power if you look at average power through the whole song. More power in always equals more power out and the lithiums held higher voltage for longer. He also would pull less amps from his battery bank with higher voltage, so less stress on the batteries.

[@workingclassperson2124]

It’s all about the smile on your face bro that’s what audio is for self expression and a never ending hobby. You should consider getting custom subs built or getting into sub building I’m going to start next year trying to start learning all about then building my own subs. But I’d recommend Orion Hcca’s or Adire Audio subs. Like I’ve said before I’m rockn two Adire kh30001 15’s and whoa they get Er done :) going to build I better box for them next week- weather permitting one I made I dropped the ball and didn’t to it quite right. Ever cube foot counts when it comes to monster subz

[@MultiMrbigg]

Good video although I wouldn't mind viewing just the AGM battery versus the lithium battery only as of the setup.

[@tubesteak5001]

Looking forward to that ALT video good luck.. keep up the good work

[@SlayerHawkX]

lovin ur vids man.. ur excitement is awesome...just may build one of those lithiums

[@Skubadav69]

Buy the american bass xmaxx monster subs man there amazing 3500 watt rms

[@rickeybraggs1956]

I have 4 xmaxx monster 15's in a 99 jimmy no wall on a single 8.0 ampere Amp at .5 ohm loud loud and hit lows like a champ

[@OleManGaming]

Sounds great mane, Have you decided on if you will start selling those cell banks?

[@angeloarandia2341]

Can you jump agm with lithium’ battery?

[@VictorLopez-fd8ze]

Can you make a video on high-end subwoofers

[@bassbrother101]

Make one with just the lithium by itself and see how the voltage is

[@Finga_Trappa]

You would have to test with the Headways BY THEMSELF. Not a very good test of lithium if you run both at the same time... lithium is only trying to take care of what the other batteries aren’t at the same time as trying to bring the AGMs up to the voltage of the LTO

[@Gensmyawk]

Yeah ,, it's better if he full charge both battery and test it individualy without combining other batteries...

[@deedolan399]

That Jeezy was going bananas up in there. 😅 I know you were heard for miles.

[@MasterDJRenn]

How do you not have more subscribers???? Well i just subbed 😁

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Thanks I really appreciate you!!

[@rowboyto156]

whats the voltage if you rev and hold the rpm 2-3k while doing a demo at full tilt

[@knowme1897]

Hi there, good information, and I'm several years behind. How did you build the lithium bank, and what did you use where it was purchased from? Thank you, stay blessed and safe

[@ltitus8900]

All those batts on a stock alt??? .........HOW?? That thing came from heaven lol.

[@FinsleysCustomCarAudio]

How many watts will a 192 ah bank support with a 270 Ohio Gen and a 370 singer alts?

[@stanmondzelewski9253]

Will a stock alternator charge the headway bank and a lead acid starter battery?

[@williampatton7163]

Agm and lithium charge different so running an agm to lithium you are not getting full potential out the lithium

[@ericklein5097]

Does staying about 13V matter (not into car audio)? I know you don't want to go much below 12V for any 12V devices as they usually start getting grouchy below 11V.....but LiFePO4 has a very different voltage curve than an AGM. Nearly the entire capacity is at 3.20 to 3.30 under normal loads so thats 12.8 to 13.2.....so there's nothing inherently wrong if you dip down to 12.8.....it just means you're probably at 1C for a standard cell and 5C for a power cell. From 14.6V down to 13.6V there is really nothing in LiFePO4 and some of the bigger cells are going to rest under 13.8V....Headways will usually rest a bit higher...3.50'ish but it varies. Where did you buy the Headways from?

[@rjdatdude23]

This guy is awesome. New subscriber

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Really appreciate you 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@rjdatdude23]

Parker Dacchille no problem. We appreciate you bro

[@JohnDoe-cv9pr]

​@ParkerTheBasshead we all appreciate you!

[@stevendegiorgio3143]

You should be good with lithium batteries.I have great luck using them in my other hobby-R/C model airplanes.These batteries are known for maintaining there current flow amps.I love them.Car audio is another great use for them.Thats a smart move.But that can be dangerous if miss handled.But there a great power source.Great job!

[@krissingh3744]

Nicely done👍👍

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Thank you!!

[@vinnybscoolstorybro2273]

What was the ah on the kinetic battery? Also i was told you shouldn't run agm and lithium together. Not sure how true that is and ur probably full lithium by now.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Now I have an AGM under the hood and I’ll lithium inside the car. It depends on the type of lithium

[@jackshain3647]

@@ParkerTheBassheadwhat type of lithium can you run with that setup ??

[@710-e6o]

What’s a good lithium battery for a 2500 rms setup?

[@julioavalos8502]

So can agm and lithiums be mixed? No special charger for lithiums?

[@jefferycarter1791]

Can you help me find the links to all the cells you have and balancer and case..what video is that info on???? HELP PARKER

[@devonlee3444]

Hey Parker, would you recommend buying an expensive BMS for a 200AH Li bank?

[@jackshain3647]

Can you add a lithium and keep your agm starting battery ?

[@Jack_dc12]

So you can mix lithium with agm batteries? I was told not to mix batteries and keep them agm with agm, acid with acid and lithium with lithium? Anyone to clarify this for me? Ty

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

You should never mix lead acid with anything. AGMs have a higher resting voltage then lead acids and so can be mixed with certainly lithium batteries.

[@Jack_dc12]

@@ParkerTheBasshead Cool I will keep that in mind! Thanks for the help :p

[@diantrecreagh3269]

Dont forget to charge those batts at night so ur voltage stays a little higher 13.6 to 14.8 is usually where my kinetiks stay after a good charge and i can play for 2 hours straight before my voltage hits below 13.8

[@andrewkelley7926]

Diantre Creagh what’s the best charger for agm bats

[@CasualBO2Shots]

Andrew Kelley i think he is talking about letting the alternator charge them

[@catch22frubert]

No, he's talking about putting them on a dedicated plug in charger at night. The alternator will keep juice in them, but they won't be fully charged. Problem is, he has 2 different kinds of batteries that will want to charge to different levels. The lithium will sit at a higher float voltage when they are really fully charged. My AGM batteries will sit at 13.2 when fully charged with no load. The lithium should sit higher 13.6 or so when fully charged. What he should do eventually do, is build 2 more lithium banks and get rid of all the AGM batteries. Install that high output alternator, and set the charge voltage at 14.6, and everything will sit at a much higher voltage. I say go 100% lithium at this point. It will help a lot, in a few different ways if he only has lithium in the Sequoia

[@CasualBO2Shots]

catch22frubert ah

[@CasualBO2Shots]

catch22frubert and i think i do remember him mentioning that he does plan on replacing the agm batteries with more of the packs he made

[@FJTabb]

So you run the lithium battery the same as a regular supplement battery in the rear???

[@martinfreeman6227]

Greetings, do you use your OEM alternator to charge the lithium-ion battery ?

[@hermankangoo4744]

Good video, but could I use a lithium battery in the back with a lead acid in the engine bay?

[@zackareyrichwine]

So you dont have any issues runnin lithium with regular bateries??? Its always been my understanding that it was not a good idea,and can cause some serious damage.. there's not a whole lot of good information out there on the lithium right now

[@odellaudio2810]

I'm so confused why aren't the cells shorting out when you assemble them aren't they negative to positive lol.

[@DarronSanderson]

Do you use a battery isolator? 🤔

[@ericklein5097]

You have the active balancer in there but no way to switch it on and off on the exterior of the case?

[@jackshain3647]

Can you keep the stick alt and starting battery with adding a lithium ?

[@kennethBrodt]

Can I replace my UPS battery with that battery, for more capacity? I have a 600 watts UPS in which I have my computer, 2 monitors and the router plug in. Can I use that battery? Thank you for your time and assistance!

[@jonasbecerra3345]

Una duda bro, donde tienes conectada la tierra de tu amplificador md12000.1 taramps.

[@mega2034]

Very nice video, however, That 12k will not last too long attached to the subwoofer box.

[@baileybasshead8762]

It's funny how parker always ends his AH ratings with saying AH, lol 😆

[@MayzDayz007]

"Ahh yeah" 12.8 all day mine goes down in the 11.8 amp

[@baileybasshead8762]

@@MayzDayz007 yeah I've gotta get my electrical solid too

[@MayzDayz007]

@@baileybasshead8762 I'd ask him but he's so busy, what subs is he running.

[@MayzDayz007]

@@baileybasshead8762 pS I like your pic, I have 2 of the amps in your picture. Haha

[@baileybasshead8762]

@@MayzDayz007 he's running 2 xfl 12s

[@baileybasshead8762]

Parker, where'd you get your hull for your lithium cells @?

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Hull?

[@alanray7177]

@@ParkerTheBasshead the case

[@catch22frubert]

I would assume you can find one on eBay, no?

[@baileybasshead8762]

@@catch22frubert yeah but some of them look cheap prolly not up to BCI standards

[@SetchiPaunda]

Those 3 different batteries. Do you run them all daily? And are they different ah ratings

[@timjd7964]

How's that cell bank holding up?

[@cyrusbundlaria667]

Can we mix lead acid batteries with Lithium ? 😌 Paralleled together

[@brandonc5965]

Are the kinetic batteries good

[@mikesanchez6905]

What alternator did you go with?

[@awheeles1]

Thank you.... answered my questions!

[@mftunz3555]

Can you use those lithium batteries under the hood while in that battery box?

[@bobdodge3171]

Have a liget question for you parker.. Can you hear a difference in detail between the full bridge. (Taramps) vs the half bridge amps.. Skar.. Audiopipe etc... Honestly Subs consume.. Not put out.. Messing w u bud everyone says "my sub put out xx power"

[@Basshead304]

How much power did those subs really take

[@rawfilmsent540]

Im doing 64 cells for my car audio build. I been told that I need to put a regulator on the alternator. Im doing two separate banks of 32 cells can i run it without having to put a regulator. I do have a second alternator in my car. Thanks in advance

[@basslife4evr772]

I really love ur videos bro ur always in such a happy mood and ur always positive about the things that ur doing for that im giving u a 💯👍🏼👍🏼keep the AWESOME videos coming bro [✌🏽💪🏽🔈✌🏽💪🏽🔉✌🏽💪🏽🔊 ]

[@permashock8068]

Bro….if your subs are getting “stinky” that’s bc they are clipping and experiencing distortion. With a properly tuned and powered system, there should be ZERO smell coming from your subs unless they are in the break in period! Also, you can add 27 batteries to your vehicle, but unless the charging system (alternator) can charge/maintain those batteries you are wasting your money buying 3-4 of them. No hate brother, just FYI

[@RandoManFPV]

If he is over powering them or flexing the coil beyond its safe zone its gunna get hot clean power or not. And if you've seen enough of this guy then you know he is ALWAYS over powering EVERYTHING lol there's not a sub Parker can't blow! 😅❤

[@Rumpss]

Love your videos Parker.I have 2 100ah agms in the trunk and a 60ah under the hood.I have done the big 3 and have a ces 320 alternator.My rear agms are old and starting to die so i was looking at removing the rear agms and installing a xs power titan 8 5s.Will this be ok or should i buy a couple more agms.Thanks man.

[@NickVaughn-en9bb]

I wouldn't keep lithium under the hood and agm in the back get lithium in the back

[@shyne_rds5446]

Question in my car have a stock battery under the hood. and a 2000w car audio battery in the trunk. If I want to install Lithium battery. Should it be hooked up befor the 2000w battery or after

[@Mach5flyer1]

Would you say these work with AGM better then say a limitless lithium 45ah for the pruce its hard to say no for more amp hr power for that price.

[@catch22frubert]

Awesome to see the lithium in action Parker. Good job, man! Awesome to hear you have another lithium bank on the way! Just my thoughts, but you should eventually build 1-2 more banks after you do lithium #2, and run only lithium in the Sequoia. It will be advantageous for you in a few different ways. I hope your new high output alternator is set to charge at a higher voltage than stock. You can set the charge voltage at 14.6 with those lithium batteries and be 100% safe, and your voltage will sit wayyy higher all around as a result. Also, with 100% lithium in the truck, you can get a dedicated lithium charger and be 100% sure the lithium has a full charge on it whenever you want.

[@mikewhalen1180]

Is the vehicle off in the test or running?

[@miiiikee_]

That new alt should make for some solid electrical on your system

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Yeah can’t wait to get it installed!

[@thomasnew8606]

What about adding a quality capacitor to whatever battery you have…? This helped me back in the day!!!

[@jeffmeredith9094]

I been told by many many people that capacitors are no good... buy a battery....and now it's buy a lithium battery

[@RyanBassForLife]

Can you run lithium batteries with Amg and be safe?

[@hou26guy]

Can the car starting and car audio be done by 1 lifepo4 lithium battery? How hard on the alternator would that battery be. Im building a 64ah lifepo4 battery for a 3500 rms system and wanna do a stock battery delete too. Would ut work

[@dustincorymcgee9588]

Buy a ioxus smart cap. Group 31 and the lp04 that will work for sure.

[@victorreyes2135]

I have a skar RP 2000 with the skar dual 10s. Skar amp kit. my alternator is upgraded I have a big 3 on....all... my electrical is done to 1/0 of wires. Everything works good at jams but my amplifier overheats too fast ...It will turn off into protect....and come on after a while.... If u place ur hand on the amp ...the whole thing is hot. ...I also have a fan that I ordered and was thinking about removing the back plate and making a rack for ventilation system with the fan.. but I don't know do you have any ideas of what the issue might be? Thanx

[@RyanBassForLife]

Nice those American Bass 12s hit hard. Was your car off on the test?

[@stevesteve1729]

What if the subs aren't even moving? What if theyre just making the universe move instead? 2:28

[@miahyoung7]

Also separate your remote turn on on your sub amps. Use 12 voltage ⚡ on your remote turn on power and wire amps power supply hot 🔥 directly to the alternator output

[@Lucas29k]

Do you run a battery isolator??

[@scottiffanimccord1509]

Thx Parker!

[@jerryburchard1512]

Really good video though can't wait to get my md12000

[@kendavis8556]

If I'm running two 15s on a Taramps smart 3k, stock alt, 0 gauge wire, have a new car that has AGM 70ah under the hood, I have an AGM battery for the back that is 35 AH, is that enough or should I get more

[@darrellw22]

Great test bro i have 2- MD12 Taramps wit 4 banks of Ying Long 40ah and the lithium blows XS power Agm out the water

[@tedtan6449]

Are the Yin longs, in parallel, add their Ah capabilities? Cheers.

[@DonDavidLvl618s]

Great video parker new subscriber hopefully ill have my own channel soon

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

I appreciate the sub!

[@cocotaso101]

so you mixed agm with lithuim?

[@angeloarandia2341]

Can you mix them?? I have 1agm and 1lithium how should I wire them up?

[@beaulong3270]

Do I need a 2nd battery for a skar rp 2000 and two 8” evl skars? If I absolutely do what’s the best budget battery I can get?

[@grikisgrikis2779]

does it make difference in sound / bass?

[@jamesgadd8341]

Right now I'm just running a standard agm and a capacitor with a rp2000.1 on two resilient sounds gold 10's. I think that I want to go up to one more 10 here soon and move up to a 3k amp. My question is what secondary battery should I start with? Even when I'm running loud I'll drop to high 11's. I know I need some more battery on it but I'm pretty green to all of this.

[@MichaelJohnson-je2vo]

first I was wondering where your voltmeter was connected and at the same time what kind of Subs are you going to be getting next to handle that kind of power and man I'm just amazed to see what you're doing I just can't imagine where you could be going from here. And it is always entertaining and educational to watch your videos keep it up

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Thanks man! Volt meter is ran to the batteries in the back. Eventually build something big for the sundown show this summer but for now going to get something like HDs, VXFs, etc...

[@chadbeverly4926]

@@ParkerTheBasshead dude i know exactly what you should get ! Some DD z4 12s. They are 6k rms and it would be perfect for that amp ! And you can customize them ! Worth the price ! Or the the American bass signature 12s

[@MichaelJohnson-je2vo]

@@chadbeverly4926 I am most definitely going to do my homework

[@chadbeverly4926]

@@MichaelJohnson-je2vo ive been up all night looking up 12" subs that are high powered finding out that most play louder than playing better which is the trade off between the american bass xmax and the signatures. You can also tell which subs are more efficient by the size of the box required. Its really an interesting comparison when all said and done.

[@carolsmaple4763]

What about the Under Takers from GP Car Audio?

[@Basshead40]

Very very nice!! My batteries come in next week! Cannot wait. Got a few other things up my sleeve too!! That battery box tho..😑😑😑😑... dunno when I'll get it being it is from Ali Express and China smh... I did find other empty boxes just today online but I need to figure the size comparison. It shows standard not metric. But idk yet tho, if it's not a bust I'll share the site!! Great vid bro!!!! 😁👍

[@justinshirley5434]

How many ah of agm's did you have

[@ladrakeus9252]

Those American bass subs is getting it

[@ronaldomaynard4816]

What is the box tuned too

[@notyobiz6207]

have 2 100ah and 1 80 ah agm with a 25 ah limitless lifepo4 in the back, like you i'm a believer in capacity. every one tells me lithium would be better without the agm.. but how could that be when u consider the added amp hours

[@devillenm5525]

Because those agm batteries are pulling the limitless battery's voltage down and draining it slowly. You are slowly killing your 800 dollar battery. Not very smart. Not only that you are charging them at different speeds with your alternator. It's very stupid to run agm with a limitless but you can run agm with the headway cells he has. I actually run a limitless 45ah and a 48ah bank of headway. I ditched the agm all together. I also have a 320amp alt too tho.

[@notyobiz6207]

@@devillenm5525 no it's safe to run lifepo4 with agm. i have a 320 amp alt as well. after not starting my car for 3 days it's right now resting at 13.16v. i've had the limitless 1 year and the agms i just been adding as i went along. life po4 and agm both rest at 12.8 if i recall correctly, at least that's what 3.2v x 4 is..

[@devillenm5525]

biz limitless does not have headway cells in the case... completely different thing. 13.1 is low for a limitless. My limitless and headway rest at 13.7 to 13.6v there is a reason that limitless tells you NOT to mix it with agm. It's a slow death but my limitless will last at least 10yrs if you keep that agm on yours you will be lucky to get 3 or 4yrs out of it. Idk about you but I paid 1300 bucks almost for mine. I want it to last.

[@notyobiz6207]

@@devillenm5525 summer time i rest at 13.5 after 2 3 days its 13.3

[@slow_rednline4874]

@@devillenm5525 agreed too much money for my 45 ah to fuck it up..AGM batteries by themselves are fine but with 1200 dollar investment I tend to protect my investments not experiment with them

[@johnnybhageloe8904]

Heel cant i charge 1 LTO bank 40ah with my standaard altinaitor 14v 100ah

[@johnnywilliams6279]

Are you selling them too

[@claysonwebster1622]

Ever try a capacitor and lithium combo setup