The Sundown ZV6 Is BACK! Worth $900? | Full Review

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Parker The Basshead

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@THELIFEOFPRICE
@THELIFEOFPRICE 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video man!
@ParkerTheBasshead
@ParkerTheBasshead 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir! Thanks for helping me get this beast fixed
@KaySwiss21
@KaySwiss21 2 жыл бұрын
Ide like to see what some of these salt amps can do... Debating whether to grab a taramps for my xv3 or a salt amp
@colemcdougal7670
@colemcdougal7670 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaySwiss21 salt
@KaySwiss21
@KaySwiss21 2 жыл бұрын
@@colemcdougal7670 yah I'm still debating, the 769 price tag for the salt 2 is up there tho.... Sundown also has a smart version amp like the taramps smart 3&5.. it's their SIA line... I've been researching those as well
@derekgardin1512
@derekgardin1512 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaySwiss21 salt.
@jimmyjam5588
@jimmyjam5588 2 жыл бұрын
I vote a custom sub box for the zv6 and a revisit 😊
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Parker I 2nd this proposition!
@ScramTek
@ScramTek 2 жыл бұрын
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Thirded
@kylez2141
@kylez2141 2 жыл бұрын
4th that
@AudioEuphoria080
@AudioEuphoria080 2 жыл бұрын
5th it
@sohailasura4610
@sohailasura4610 2 жыл бұрын
6th it
@mathewyocham2142
@mathewyocham2142 2 жыл бұрын
I like how when people toast their skar equipment its skars fault but when sundown equipment fails they have no problem sayn it was their fault.
@DTW-bx2vy
@DTW-bx2vy 2 жыл бұрын
98% of product failure is simply from user error. The difference is the people that admit to there mistakes. We are all human & have to all learn the do's & don't in car audio because we are all beginners at some point.
@yhprumhsoj
@yhprumhsoj 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't stand up for Skar Audio's business either. Would you stick your neck out for a guy getting bullied when you know he's been a real scumbag in the past?
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 2 жыл бұрын
@Josh Murphy elaborate on the scumbag...
@ScramTek
@ScramTek 2 жыл бұрын
@@DTW-bx2vy ‘admit’
@yhprumhsoj
@yhprumhsoj 2 жыл бұрын
Not going too, if you know you know. It's been long enough now it's not worth writing a book over but they will not get my defense still to this day.
@econley001
@econley001 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty disappointed in YOU Parker. I thought you would learn from the 1st review you made on this subwoofer. Your biggest failure is using that tiny box for this massive subwoofer. Your box needed to be increased by nearly 2x. This is why it kept getting stinky and surprised you didnt blow it AGAIN 😆. You got super lucky they fixed it for free as well. ITS THE. LACK OF SIZE IN YOUR BOX THAT CAUSES THIS SUB TO BLOW AND YOU SHOULD GET A LARGER BOX AND THEN DO A 3RD REVIEW. I enjoy your videos but you did this sub no justice on this review...thank you as always!!!
@johnkurpiewski3996
@johnkurpiewski3996 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a box built for that sub . Showcase how the right enclosure makes all the difference.
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 2 жыл бұрын
Yes then he could've surpassed that 145db and see this sub truly shine.
@girthquake9655
@girthquake9655 2 жыл бұрын
It's all.... About the box.
@ericsimon256
@ericsimon256 2 жыл бұрын
I got a zv5 15 on a wolfram 5k put about 2500 to it hitting 149.6 after new alternator before 146
@lowhertzhighspl
@lowhertzhighspl 2 жыл бұрын
Then he'd need to use custom enclosures for every one of his subs tested to be fair otherwise put an asterisk next to the new Z's score
@rickmoran8644
@rickmoran8644 2 жыл бұрын
@@girthquake9655 lol you said “box”.
@pandabear7894
@pandabear7894 2 жыл бұрын
Im surprised that Dave had the time to repair your sub. I had him build me four Sundown X8V3 with his DL Designs upgraded coils, one of them blew the tinsel lead within a few months. I tried contacting him several times, using several different methods but never got a response. I ultimately had to pay to get it repaired. I am not knocking Sundown or the subs that Dave builds but I cannot recommend him due to poor customer service and not honoring his warranty. I wish people would take pride in their work and take care of their customers.
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome 2 жыл бұрын
He basically warranted the subwoofer only because it's on KZbin he wouldn't have given him the time of day any other way
@terryburton971
@terryburton971 2 жыл бұрын
I run Pioneer & PSIs
@beencraftn6612
@beencraftn6612 Жыл бұрын
We have sent several messages Dave and not one reply either so, yea, we will shop elsewhere. People get "too big" and then forget the people who helped get them there. "The customer"
@bobbygetsbanned6049
@bobbygetsbanned6049 Жыл бұрын
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome Yup and who knows how much special care they put into the rebuild because he's a youtuber.
@guerrillawar616
@guerrillawar616 Жыл бұрын
Big facts
@Kendrickshayesjr
@Kendrickshayesjr 2 жыл бұрын
As much as you spend on the high tier subs, I know you can just build a bigger single sub box. Then everyone can really see what these subs can do
@KOSx15
@KOSx15 2 жыл бұрын
When is an Fi sub going to make an appearance on this channel 👀
@girthquake9655
@girthquake9655 2 жыл бұрын
Your box is too small... Your port area is wayyyyy to small and the tuning needs to be lower. Build a new box for it to watch it shine Parker.
@elchuy501
@elchuy501 2 жыл бұрын
I need a playlist of the songs so I can bump 😂😂
@keatondavis638
@keatondavis638 2 жыл бұрын
Can you review a deaf bonce 3512 and compare it to a 3012r and a xv3
@recon440
@recon440 2 жыл бұрын
All these large-roll subs are pigs with those long coils and heavy surrounds... 400g Mms. Moral of the story, if you actually intent to play music (targeting 35Hz+) you're better off with a conventional surround with less moving mass like a DC XL SPL or a Sundown U. With correct box loading there is no need for 40mm of xmax for bass extension as the f3 is dictated by motor force (qts) and volume. All these large-stroke subs are mainly good for
@jamesr3364
@jamesr3364 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man if like to see you build a box for this beast!
@mohitchand1356
@mohitchand1356 2 жыл бұрын
Do a free air 5 minutes RMS torture test at 40hz. For a $900 worth of sub, it should survive and backup its reliability.
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a Russian sub I don't think it'll handle it LOL
@wisco-lad
@wisco-lad 4 ай бұрын
Wow, so the skars you tested did the same for a 1/4 of the price? A single evl 12 can get 144.4 for $200
@marcorodriguez7748
@marcorodriguez7748 2 жыл бұрын
Can you review something off Fi?
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 2 жыл бұрын
Parker, great content! You were really pushing that sub! What's the chances of you doing a video similar to this on the nightshade v5?? Have you given testing that sub out any thought?
@Mani-aX
@Mani-aX 2 жыл бұрын
if i were competing, totally worth the money with it holding up to some slight over power and bass burps. but for an daily driver, i think there are other subs in the lower 500.00 range for that. Great video as always!
@ScramTek
@ScramTek 2 жыл бұрын
What drivers would you recommend in the sub $500 range?
@MannuhFestIt
@MannuhFestIt 2 жыл бұрын
If it helps, a used Zv5 can go as low as $500. I got 2 and acquired one of them for that price.
@johndough4338
@johndough4338 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScramTek ...just get two skar vxf 12s, and you'll be happy with them versus buying and 1 12 at 900 or 500 bucks. One skar vxf 12 by itself will probably give you a real close comparison even if put next to this sundown zv6 12. The sundown would probably take more power, I'm pretty sure, but if you were looking for a everyday listening banging set up, then the skar vxf 12s will fit the bill, while saving you hundreds of dollars. Another thing, in this video, Parker is using a taramps 8k bass amp, to push that one sundown zv6 12. If he was to swap that 1 sundown zv6 12 out, and replaced it with two skar evl 12s, or 2 vxf 12s in this same set up, in this same vehicle, the two skar 12s will perform way better than that 1 sundown zv6 12. And still cost half the price for that one sundown zv6 12 inch sub. So if you are looking for sound instead of name brands to boast about, there are plenty of things to do, and brands to choose from, to get loud and still save.
@cliffordmcgraw8740
@cliffordmcgraw8740 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScramTek crossfire c7 series subwoofers are totally awesome for less than 500 and im feeding mine double rated daily.
@ScramTek
@ScramTek 2 жыл бұрын
@@cliffordmcgraw8740 Yeah I’ve heard nothing but good about Crossfire. Only problem is there’s no retailer here in the UK. We have most American brands here but Crossfire is the one I wish was retailed here.
@tonivalen6187
@tonivalen6187 Жыл бұрын
Parker let's trie out the 20.000 rms taramp amplifier with 4-15"d1 punishers
@HH-kw5sr
@HH-kw5sr 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the thumbnail and thought it was Banjo from Flair’s KZbin channel
@snauspockets9924
@snauspockets9924 2 жыл бұрын
My 15in Skar VXF in a Gately 3.5 box sounds so much better though...you know, because it's in a Gately 3.5 box that matches the box size and port size recommendation from Skar. Port size and cubic ft...you gotta use the right box for each sub. Get the recommendation for thos from the sub manufacturer. Too many guys just plopping sub after sub in the same box thinking the sub size is all that matters. I also EQ with a Mini DSP 2x4HD. Learned about that with my HT subs. Even so...900 bucks no thanks.
@annihilationindustries1990
@annihilationindustries1990 Жыл бұрын
So you think that box was too small and when u blew the dc audio level 5 the box was too big ? I really think your frying the subs with your Brazilian amp u got there ?
@colinshrom3704
@colinshrom3704 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please start including the qts numbers they are very important and I feel it’s a determining factor when choosing subs
@bigkarai
@bigkarai 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Parker bro you should do a 18inch review for the one time man.
@ParkerTheBasshead
@ParkerTheBasshead 2 жыл бұрын
Yep videos ago was DS18! I plan to do more soon
@RY-xh5hm
@RY-xh5hm 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead He means a 18 inch sub
@bigkarai
@bigkarai 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead 18 inch sub
@candelarioornelas6291
@candelarioornelas6291 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Parker, really interested in hearing the 12" Onyx from Resilient Sounds. Every thought about testing one of these?
@jakeh4106
@jakeh4106 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we need some resilient sounds on the channel
@BenaresDarkness
@BenaresDarkness 2 жыл бұрын
@CUJO & FRIENDS I miss my resilient sounds team 15 that was a monster sub I thought it was a 12 because the motor is so dam big
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 2 жыл бұрын
@Quetzalcoatl Toltec Sun God what happened to your RS team sub?
@BenaresDarkness
@BenaresDarkness 2 жыл бұрын
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Not long after I bought it I had to sell it to buy a new TV
@marijuananirvana
@marijuananirvana 2 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about trying a Pride subwoofer? I know they are very expensive.
@thomashood8549
@thomashood8549 2 жыл бұрын
I just have a 10" sundown x v2 in a high output enclosures built by Dave Marin. I'm using a sundown sia 3500. I'm good with that 😀🇺🇸
@bassahaulic
@bassahaulic 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that people like this get such a large following while painfully knowing so little is so weird to me. But ey.... you do you I guess.
@forbidmirror2587
@forbidmirror2587 Жыл бұрын
Who tf are you ?
@mi5audio831
@mi5audio831 2 жыл бұрын
It didn't blow because the box was too small. Smaller boxes actually allow subs to handle power better, bigger boxes make them easier to blow because of less control.
@ceciljones1248
@ceciljones1248 2 жыл бұрын
It blew because it wasn't fully broken in it takes months for sundown SUBWOOFERS to break in I bought a psi platform 4 and it took almost 6 months to break in those spiders are very stiff on those spl subwoofers
@scottypknowmsayin6918
@scottypknowmsayin6918 Жыл бұрын
@@ceciljones1248 how did you like the Platform 4?
@ceciljones1248
@ceciljones1248 Жыл бұрын
@@scottypknowmsayin6918 I still have it takes a lot of abuse ran 8k taramps on it until I could smell the coils been having it for about 4 years now No problems?
@scottypknowmsayin6918
@scottypknowmsayin6918 Жыл бұрын
@@ceciljones1248 wicked. That is another one of my potential options. B2 Rampage XM4, DC Level 6 and PSI Platform 4 were my tip choices. These ZV6 seem to do quite well too. Just not as fancy looking. DC and PSI are the most customizable.
@ceciljones1248
@ceciljones1248 Жыл бұрын
@@scottypknowmsayin6918 I have a pair of dd3515 they use to be 12s one of my coils is rubbing I very own dd since 2007? Now you want some serious spl? Dd They are pricey but they are worth every single penny? Now I have a Fi neo 4.11 18 should be here today? I have two 15 fi hc series? For the money fi gets good lows and Sq and hand made and reasonable for your money? Just don't order on black Friday or tax season because it takes awhile to get them? My two 15s took about a week to get? My 18 neodymium was ordered on the 27th of last month and finished Monday? Roughly 3 weeks not bad bro it's your choice and preference Top of the line? DD FI PSI SUNDOWN AND THE REST?
@kevinAuman1
@kevinAuman1 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly though, I'd prefer my Deaf Bonce DB3515's over these and if you wan lows and power handling, bang for buck all around monster woofers then my wolfram PT-18's are where it's at!!! 4in PE coils 4krms each and get thisss I paid $650ea shipped yes'rrr
@Legalizeranch420
@Legalizeranch420 Жыл бұрын
Wow i might go with your suggestion on the Deaf Bonce DB3515. How much does the DB3515 weigh? Wonder how the DB4515r sounds
@kylevanwinkle2081
@kylevanwinkle2081 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you have a sub in a tiny box and wonder why it's not maximizing performance
@steveharley2021
@steveharley2021 2 жыл бұрын
No joke about working with such a heavy sub...my DB-412 weight 95lbs each....about crushed my finger tips a couple times...and just getting them in my truck was tough..let alone pulling them in and out while messing around with my setup
@McRemmyBaby
@McRemmyBaby 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@erikybarra1841
@erikybarra1841 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you need to build and improve your upper body and core strengh, lmao! Nah, just joking bro.
@McRemmyBaby
@McRemmyBaby 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikybarra1841 Donut POWER
@yhprumhsoj
@yhprumhsoj 2 жыл бұрын
I love these sub reviews but we are missing some huge factors when it comes to results for them. 1 being the relation between the sub and the port. That is why we get results like this that are less than exciting.
@tidobass6048
@tidobass6048 2 жыл бұрын
I agree port area and airspace is definitely a factor
@yhprumhsoj
@yhprumhsoj 2 жыл бұрын
@@tidobass6048 this is a great example of what to expect when upgrading subwoofers and what to expect as far as gains. If you throw money down on a woofer like this your probably going to be throwing money down on a new enclosure as well.
@snauspockets9924
@snauspockets9924 2 жыл бұрын
Each sub has specific recommendations for Port size and cubic ft of airspace. If you aren't using those then it's not going to sound as good as it can.
@yhprumhsoj
@yhprumhsoj 2 жыл бұрын
@@snauspockets9924 right, my point exactly. And a subwoofer of this caliber is going to really expose that..
@ScramTek
@ScramTek 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all these reviews aren’t that useful apart from visual enjoyment. Using the same enclosure for every driver means that some are going to perform well and others won’t. I get that Parker buys a lot of the drivers he reviews and that building an enclosure for every one gets pricey. But I can’t understand why manufacturers will provide one of their drivers but not an enclosure with it. It’s not that much additional expense for them just to ensure that their product performs as well as they want it to. This Zv6 should be getting 150+ dB. He’s got enough power on tap. It’s being held back by the wrong box/port combo
@madrx2
@madrx2 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this put up against the Sundown N/s 12
@crustysleet
@crustysleet 2 жыл бұрын
Remember to invert the gasket when you invert the sub for a proper seal Parker! 😀
@crustysleet
@crustysleet 2 жыл бұрын
@nate0 this is true, but I still invert cut one side of the gasket isn't flat but one is 90% of the time . It makes a difference in en losses that have had a few suvs ran thru and stuff
@lowhertzhighspl
@lowhertzhighspl 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea. I know my Fi Neo 4.11s gasket is a lot thicker on the top side when not inverted (I have yet to invert bcuz of space restrictions but maybe if I remove the gasket and replace with my ⅛" butyl gasket tape then it'll fit. (Otherwise I'll routering out the top layer of my 3x baffle 😬). I'll post the experience on my YT channels.
@nandocastillo8366
@nandocastillo8366 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one but what is all that rattling sound?sub,box,suv,or a little of each? I personally think you need a bigger box so I’m getting a 2.5 cubic ft box built after displacement.
@Alpate_audio
@Alpate_audio 2 жыл бұрын
I try not to feed into the negativity but why does everyone hate Skar audio so much? 🤔
@breedam
@breedam 2 жыл бұрын
They are salty because they overpayed.
@derkchurk5879
@derkchurk5879 2 жыл бұрын
They need to build them better for 900 bucks, you should be able to push them that hard on clean power... What's the point of all that Xmax if you can't push it to the point where you can use all of it without it gettin stinky, It would be cool if you could review the em audio 3k and 5k or even some of the psi platform 5 and 4 with the upgraded options.. I love sundown and what they do, but I think those brands above offer a better value, even the Savard high output subwoofers like the ho12. Which is like 450 but handles 2k every day.
@ScramTek
@ScramTek 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the content dude. It is possible to build one large enclosure with a tuneable port that you can use for all drivers. Give it a 15” cutout and then you only have to make a baffle for each driver that you can attach to the enclosure cutout. If you build a 4-5 cu.ft. enclosure you can then use various measured sizes of wood (attach to interior walls of enclosure with Velcro to ensure no movement) or XPS foam. Whatever you use needs to be solid/closed cell so that a 1 cu.ft. block for example actually acts as a 1 cu.ft. block when compressed by air. You can also use an external port to adjust tuning for each driver. Varying lengths of 3-4” piping. This will allow you to test each driver in the optimum box/port combination. What you’re currently doing is fun to watch, but not a fair representation of what each driver is capable of. Keep up the good work my dude!
@lowhertzhighspl
@lowhertzhighspl 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought! I think it's time he steps up his approach to testing now that he's doing so well.. and to test a Fi sub! (Fi Neo 4.11) like I have in my build on my YT channel.
@darkxd8366
@darkxd8366 5 күн бұрын
they will fix your sub for free but when i bought 4 sa 12 v2s BRAND NEW $1550 ON ONE ORDER two of them blew as soon as i wired them up even correctly wired. sundown is Hella mean on customer service lmao. short story i have a box for 4 sundown sa 12 v.2s(4th order box) i wired the subs correctly and two of them smoked in about a day then i contacted sundown, the tech there was yelling at me on the phone saying i don't know how to wire subwoofers. i get 2 new re-cone kits throw them in and rewire the same and correct way and i haven't had a problem since(5 months later). i KNOW MY STUFF but sundown's warranty is bogus. they only helped parker because they want to ''ACT'' like there good lmao
@easylooker
@easylooker 2 жыл бұрын
What you think about the sound quality of this sub? Jonathon Price said in a video that some people compete in sound quality with these subs which I find hard to believe as I never seen it. But would be nice to have a big sub that does sound really good and accurate instead of sounding sloppy like most all the subs do.
@09NXN06
@09NXN06 2 жыл бұрын
Agree!!
@halcyon7005
@halcyon7005 2 жыл бұрын
There's a hifi associate of Sundown called Stereo Integrity. I believe they use the same motors but a less stiff suspension to lower the fs. They seem to recommend going sealed with these. Seems they have a big following among DIY audiophiles. You may want to check them out. Though I bet the ZV6 sounds great as is.
@TheMlf
@TheMlf 9 күн бұрын
If you want a big beefy sub that's got great sound quality look at the DD 9921
@justinishaq7555
@justinishaq7555 2 жыл бұрын
I hit 145.5 at 59 hz with my single 12 zv6 on a salt 4 in a 6th order
@poohwecampbell7799
@poohwecampbell7799 8 күн бұрын
They look good, but realistically lest be honest for the wattage you get it’s over priced… ( deaf bounce/Avatar) dS18 hooligan/ Orion hcca/ just too name a few .. for high wattage & deep lows around 30-34 hz
@seanjulian8013
@seanjulian8013 2 жыл бұрын
Let's see this vs the Deaf Bonce 3512R!!!
@denniszuccolotto2666
@denniszuccolotto2666 2 жыл бұрын
The boy JP was a friend of mine til I caught him in my car trying to steal my Alpine
@kevinAuman1
@kevinAuman1 2 жыл бұрын
Dave Lieb is the man!!! One of if not thee best sub builder there is, I own a pair of Dave Lieb Designs upgraded Sundown X12's and they're absolutely insane! I broke my sunroof on my Lincoln mkx on only 3k with the two 12's them things are violent 👊💪🔊🔊🔊
@ParkerTheBasshead
@ParkerTheBasshead 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he is incredible!! Very stoked I got to meet him
@a713a
@a713a 2 жыл бұрын
I have a x12 v3 on sia 3500 always wonder if I would gain much by switching to a zv6
@kevinpersaud4240
@kevinpersaud4240 9 ай бұрын
Hey bro how’s the sia 3500 keeping up I wanted to put one on a sundown audio u12
@EcSsAwS
@EcSsAwS 2 жыл бұрын
There's a few companies he just looks over Audio legion Harmony audio monolith Seismic audio Incriminator audio List goes on 😆
@tjjohnston7920
@tjjohnston7920 Ай бұрын
Few days!!!!! Different Jp than I'm used to.😂 Oh KZbinrs get there shit bk quick normal ppl 8-10 weeks.
@bradmeek
@bradmeek 2 жыл бұрын
You've really gotta try a DD AUDIO sub dude
@jasoncaesar8993
@jasoncaesar8993 2 жыл бұрын
Q? My smart 3 clips my dead game 1500w sub what I’m I doing wrong
@mikemerritt9439
@mikemerritt9439 2 жыл бұрын
What’s you electrical system consist of? Typically clipping is caused my not enough voltage or your head unit could be sending a clipped signal back to your amp! The sub won’t have any bearing on if the amp is clipping but the clipping will destroy your sub very fast! That smart 3k needs a high output alt and extra batteries… they draw a lot of current!
@buildingnumberseven
@buildingnumberseven Жыл бұрын
6:50 Mi Casa FTW!!!!
@PBasschannel
@PBasschannel 2 жыл бұрын
The box what you using for testing is optimised for Sundown X12 V2, then of course it have the biggest chance that it will be the loudest - and obivously in your case it was up to date. I'm not saying that it is wrong, just not as accurate SPL results as it could be, because the subs you tested, had not equal chances, because of a box what is not optimal for them - maybe for some close, but not optimal. I mean with this, in my opinion 1 of DeafBonce or American Bass, or Skar sub maybe would outperform the X12 V2 in a proper box made for them, but maybe not... I think this Z easily will outperform the X V2 in a box optimised for it, so yeah, I would like to see it in a proper box. And also an idea: custom boxes made for your best subs. My case: I have a Gladen RS-X 6.5 sub, I made a custom ported box optimised for it's TS parameters from the specs sheet like almost everybody doing when designing a custom box for a sub with not the manufacturer's recommended box specs. I found out that a Sundown X6.5 have similar shaped transfer function graph curve in any box like that Gladen sub, even their peaks are at the same freq in any box in a same listening enviroment, so I compared them with simulations: I simulated the X6.5 in the Gladen's box, and the Gladen was louder by few tenths of dB at the peak + up to 3-3.5 dB off from the peak on it's RMS power (250 W) like the X6.5 on it's RMS power (300 W), but the X6.5 not reached it's xmax, the Gladen just touched it's xmax, because for X6.5 is acceptable a bigger net volume box. After this I designed a custom box for the X-6.5, the X-6.5's peak was louder like the Gladen's in the Gladen's box, and also simulated in the X6.5 box both drivers, had the same transfer function differences like I wrote down just before on their RMS powers. But Gladen overpassed it's Xmax, so, I needed reduce the power for it in simulations, and after that obivously X6.5 became much louder like the Gladen at the peak, even Gladen was quieter at the peak like in it's box, but still a tiny bit louder off from the peak like the X6.5, just now I can't prove this with real tests, because Sundown's stuff is 1 - hardly avialable in my country, or 2 - it is way too expensive mainly because of shipping payments and similar things... So, in any means, boxes optimised for the given drivers giving always the best results like for me: Gladen outperforms X6.5 in a box made for Gladen, because the Gladen box is a bit small for the X6.5, and X6.5 outperforms the Gladen in a box optimised for X6.5, because the X6.5 box is too big for Gladen, and even X6.5 outperforms the Gladen at the peak freq when both are simulated in their boxes = both subs have very similar sounding, Sundown is somewhat louder, but needs a bigger space, Gladen is somewhat more musical/daily, and needs a smaller place...maybe there's something similar reason why all (mainly "flaghip") subs you tested were quieter like the X12 V2 - maybe for some of them is a need for a bigger box because it's not using the driver's max output potential, or some of them is a need for a smaller box because the drivers starting to have bigger excursion at 70 percent of Bl on smaller power like in an optimal box... Or let's say even if the X12 V2 is truely the loudest, but I think the order from 2nd place downwards would be different for sure.
@filibertofonseca8083
@filibertofonseca8083 2 жыл бұрын
Great example of when a guy says all you have to do is invert the subwoofer, give it more airspace in its enclosure and it will be louder. Inverting is not always the answer
@Blitz180p
@Blitz180p 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to meet this dude one day. He said the sundown manufacture place was close to him and it’s about 30 minutes from me I’ve been there aswell.
@undercut3494
@undercut3494 8 ай бұрын
Love your show bro..can you stick with the low rent subs..most of us can't afford to get $900 subs....😮😮keep on booooming baby..
@incredifunk
@incredifunk 10 ай бұрын
Bro, that's not even a test. That box isn't close to big enough. I mean I get you're not trying to buy a new box for every test. But that's probably not even half of the airspace that woofer needs. Probably a quarter. Even inverted... And yeah it might bump the way you got it but put that in the size of enclosure it calls for and it would just bloom.. literally... I'm sure you know with all the testing you done and as much as you know about systems that nothing kills bass more than not having enough airspace..
@allmylifebassheadz
@allmylifebassheadz 2 жыл бұрын
#ALLMYLIFEBASSHEADZ FROM COLUMBIA SC ROCKIN WIT THIS "BASS CHANNEL" 4L
@donjaun540
@donjaun540 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine 6 of those Sun downs replacing the six in your big box? Wow. Good video Parker. Where was bass head kitty?? Lol
@RomaVilla
@RomaVilla 2 жыл бұрын
That sub definitely has alot of potential, especially with the right enclosure. Maybe even close to a 150 db...
@savageplaylist5891
@savageplaylist5891 2 жыл бұрын
What is the blue car in the background
@ParkerTheBasshead
@ParkerTheBasshead 2 жыл бұрын
WRX!
@timjd7964
@timjd7964 11 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't destroy the surround playing it just balancing in the hole like that. You got more balls then me(or less of something else)
@therandomman6647
@therandomman6647 8 ай бұрын
I want to see Sacrilegium 1 by Zeal & Ardor on one of those! It would be pretty brutal
@BeatsByThePound
@BeatsByThePound 2 жыл бұрын
The same box he blew it in lol nice!
@mikew6135
@mikew6135 Жыл бұрын
I thought the golden rule is clean power. I saw numerous times where your amp clipped. What gives Parker? Do as I say not as I do?
@Radiohost4200
@Radiohost4200 Жыл бұрын
Skar audio is a cheap version of sundown. tbh you get power, just not longevity, and most of the time, they burn out right before your eyes 🤣
@t.w.i.t.c.h8711
@t.w.i.t.c.h8711 2 жыл бұрын
Can you review the American Bass XMAXXX 12
@runningbear1982
@runningbear1982 2 жыл бұрын
If someone give me a skar for free I wouldn't pay the shipping and handling. There is a reason they're called skarbage.
@dalesly32
@dalesly32 Ай бұрын
Anyone know the playlist of songs around 16:20-17?
@TheTherealdarkhorse
@TheTherealdarkhorse 2 жыл бұрын
That thing is choking. Chaffing like crazy..Build a damn box man!
@kaedeschulz5422
@kaedeschulz5422 2 жыл бұрын
A sub that has a sorround that get's kinks/folds while moving isn't wort a grand...
@nicholaschanda1978
@nicholaschanda1978 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys try not to be so close to the sub when playing it, we cant even hear those much needed low frequencies clearly,!
@CL-yp1bs
@CL-yp1bs 2 жыл бұрын
This sub is for hitting lows more than getting as loud as possible
@TheTherealdarkhorse
@TheTherealdarkhorse 2 жыл бұрын
Mechanical noise is ridiculous! Sounds like a toilet plunger.or a really bad gas session.
@elijahmaggio2832
@elijahmaggio2832 2 жыл бұрын
Need a a better 12” box my man! Something meant for these monster 12” subs!
@austinfrancis9723
@austinfrancis9723 Жыл бұрын
I’m about 20 min from Sundown HQ lol we must stay close
@salvatorehayes2753
@salvatorehayes2753 2 жыл бұрын
The Qts Was .39. Usually Subs Under .40 Don't Need A Whole Lot Of Volume For Thier Enclosure. Not Sure If It Correlates With Why Sub Was Louder With Motor In Box. What Kinda Shows The Box Isn't Ideal Is Your Impedance Rise. It's Only Going From .5 To 2.2Ish. My Subs Rise From .5 To 5.8 Ohms A Little Past Box Tuning Hz. Alot Of SPL Guys Rise Even Higher. Oh And Was That Noise When You We're Playing Free Air Just Air Rushing By The Enclosure Opening Or Was That Suspension Creaking/Hissing?
@haroldwilliams8242
@haroldwilliams8242 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm about to play with my zv5s soon. Beast subs.
@jefferycarter1791
@jefferycarter1791 2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the fi Team v3 or the Zv6 Sundown, I want an honest answer please...
@ParkerTheBasshead
@ParkerTheBasshead 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had an Fi before so I can’t really say! I do know the Fi stuff if pretty nice tho
@markwentz8332
@markwentz8332 2 жыл бұрын
Damn i gotta get the box for mine built! Thanks for posting these motivational video's for me Parker! Two SAZ-1500 anniversary editions should get it moving in my Ranger
@Asap_joser
@Asap_joser 9 ай бұрын
Skar is for the people. They understand that not everyone has bank
@mad_mechanic
@mad_mechanic Жыл бұрын
Not really parkers fault there not the right spiders in my opinion for street use if that makes any sense
@KyrieEleisonMaranatha
@KyrieEleisonMaranatha 2 жыл бұрын
Naw, sundowns are notorious for stinking the first few months. You certainly didn't "push her" with only 4600 watts. I've seen those eat twice that much.
@derkchurk5879
@derkchurk5879 2 жыл бұрын
No sub should ever stink dude...
@KyrieEleisonMaranatha
@KyrieEleisonMaranatha 2 жыл бұрын
@@derkchurk5879 you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Voice coils certainly can stink.
@derkchurk5879
@derkchurk5879 2 жыл бұрын
@@KyrieEleisonMaranatha yeah if you push it too hard especially with shit power, a voice coil should never off gas for any reason, I don't care if it is black coated or not. Sounds like you don't know how to set up or tune your stuff at all.
@kevinriley5979
@kevinriley5979 2 жыл бұрын
I just installed a X15v3 a wk ago, got my smart 5 turned down to break it in. I smelled a coil today and got freaked out, im nowhere near clipping. Is that normal?
@KyrieEleisonMaranatha
@KyrieEleisonMaranatha 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinriley5979 yep, beat on em proper and they get stancky.
@cryogenikaffliktion1769
@cryogenikaffliktion1769 3 күн бұрын
Why do you always test with the same songs?
@Jordancade2010
@Jordancade2010 2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not I actually bought this sub and the Skar Audio ZVX-12 and the ZVX 12 is louder
@kenneththompson9889
@kenneththompson9889 2 жыл бұрын
Sundown Monster Lows!!!!!🦺👍
@MayzDayz007
@MayzDayz007 2 жыл бұрын
Keepin coming, next 18" but, not to soon! Make us wait ✋️ 😂😂😉
@MayzDayz007
@MayzDayz007 2 жыл бұрын
W7AE3... 😲😲😲
@NathanOakley1980
@NathanOakley1980 2 жыл бұрын
Does it rise like a mofo? As I understand it, having a massive motor results in more rise?!
@NathanOakley1980
@NathanOakley1980 2 жыл бұрын
I saw 1.2 ….. Wired at 0.5 ohm, that’s substantial impedance rise (box rise) 😝
@fusiondensity3287
@fusiondensity3287 2 жыл бұрын
It will rise like the Chicago skyline from 60 miles away
@mattadams7922
@mattadams7922 2 жыл бұрын
Buddy you need twice the box you got for that monster and that sub is a 6th order bandpass monster. It will go hard in a 4th order too but 6th order will make it go bonkers. That 1 sub is a 150 db all day sub in that truck with that amp
@adrianheras8892
@adrianheras8892 6 ай бұрын
Can I buy i buy the subwoofer from you please
@BeckettCarroll
@BeckettCarroll 3 ай бұрын
hey i’m getting one of these for my bronco but im wondering what sub you would recommend me to get i’ve heard people recommend a salt 4 and some an sbf or something but im not sure what i want or what’s better.
@Legalizeranch420
@Legalizeranch420 2 ай бұрын
You could easily put 6-8k on a single zv6 me personally i would go with a 6k like the salt6 or jp63
@iakopklein8218
@iakopklein8218 Жыл бұрын
i like that sub moves when you played coca cola
@elawood538
@elawood538 2 жыл бұрын
I'd buzz if parker actually got a sundown sponsorship. they are the best 12 inch subs for sure. "that ive heard and felt to date"
@akjohnny5997
@akjohnny5997 2 жыл бұрын
better he's independent, at least i hope he is
@newmoney8128
@newmoney8128 6 ай бұрын
What he doesn't tell you is that it takes a tremendous amount of power to run that sub after you spend about $1,800 bucks for two subs You're still looking at another $3,000 for the proper amp then buying the proper alternator running the big three and maybe a cap in the back plus two extra batteries versus the V3 you'd save more money and still get the low base if you're not in competition or entering in a competition this speaker isn't even worth having
@MannuhFestIt
@MannuhFestIt 2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon: Parker doing 6 Zv6 12s 😂
@ParkerTheBasshead
@ParkerTheBasshead 2 жыл бұрын
That would ruin me financial 😂😂😂
@MannuhFestIt
@MannuhFestIt 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead it’s time we get you that KZbin money then 😂
@mattsnider5904
@mattsnider5904 Жыл бұрын
How much wattage did it peak at for 145.3 score? Seeing if it's fair comparison to that EM sub you put 11 thousands watts. Oh you said 5000 watts. Could it handle more than that?
@mikew6135
@mikew6135 Жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that reducing the volume of the huge box would help. Someone tell Parker that box displace matters. A smaller box will help with power handling too Parker. It's physics bother. Too large of a box is basically like free air providing no support for the subs suspension
@anilkumartenglikar1945
@anilkumartenglikar1945 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir I want use ZV 6 dual 12 subwoofer. So say me which is best Mono Block Amplifier use its....
@korithebarber2920
@korithebarber2920 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all keep hating on skar ,, I love mine
@brandoncrawford3917
@brandoncrawford3917 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t pay 900 for it no way rather get 2 Skar vxfs for 600 have 300 for a box period Skar for the win
@caydenwilson707
@caydenwilson707 2 жыл бұрын
You got to pay to play homie
@johndough4338
@johndough4338 2 жыл бұрын
Two skar VXF 12s for the price will sound wayyy Better than that one sundown zv6 12, and will be cheaper. Trust me, the skar vxf is not much different from this sundown zv6, especially if we're talking about being loud with good sound quality. Peace
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