Parkland School Shooter's 8-Grade Teacher Reveals Challenges Dealing with His Behavior

[@deborahwelker6975]

I know every kid has a right to an education, but NC had no right to disrupt every other students education. He should have been institutionalized.

[@liliwilson4839]

100% right.What about the 20 plus students Rights to have a place to learn without being distracted by one student who doesn't respect others. Shame on the principal and my respects and apologize for this teacher.

[@mameeocean6194]

Yes agreed, it takes waaay too long to get them where they need to be and it wastes an incredible amount of instructional time. Teachers need to show the child has failed every step by step opportunity to remain with typical kids in the typical setting. Regardless the deficit, danger, and obvious need for a restrictive learning environment, it must be trialed and documented in detail.

[@mameeocean6194]

@@liliwilson4839 if only it was a matter of convincing the principal.. no one has an individual say.. federal special Ed laws mandate specific procedures take place and are thoroughly documented before the child’s team of staff/parents can make the decision collectively to change a child’s placement. See my other reply above. The laws are for student protection to prevent teachers from giving up, with hasty disregard, sidelining, and dumping of the tough kids. The problem is, the process I explained above often takes the better part of an entire school year to complete!

[@salvaged_wretch]

really good notes, thorough and concise. funny how that psych doctor witness had nothing close to noted behavior or any useful information and yet, is probably getting paid a painful amount more than this humble teacher. I love teachers.... they are the most underrate professionals in our society.

[@SteepedlnStories]

His middle school teacher took really good notes on observed behavior.

[@blessall8856]

She is very smart and thorough.

[@maureenlaneski2802]

It's also easier to remember a kid like him.

[@lowblowmonroe]

Probably cause she was scared.

[@denisceballos9745]

Kudos to that teacher, Ms. Yon. She knew. She spent a lot of extra time each workday logging and recording behavior. Those were some huge red flags from that kid. Seems like she was shouting into a void and no one was really listening. SMH.

[@Halfmoonbaystudios]

Because she knew he was a psychopath.

[@malamaurer4043]

I don't understand why the public schools held on to a kid like this. He should have been sent to a school that would have dealt with all of his social and emotional issues and learning disabilities. Clearly the kid wasn't learning learning anything or making any progress in his academic setting. There was absolutely nothing positive going on here. So why was he kept there with everyone knowing that he was struggling so much with absolutely Everything? Appropriate placements are crucial.

[@dejuhvu1793]

Agreed. I understand not wanting to give up on a kid. Especially if they were doing well and then started struggling. However, this kid was clearly never progressing & was just a danger to himself & others.

[@TennesseeYaya]

What would you do with him? I assure you schools didn’t “try to hold onto him” probably having a real good idea where he was headed.

[@hondafreedom9329]

From personal experience teaching 23 years, it is NEAR impossible to get a disruptive and disturbed child out of your regular classroom and put elsewhere. Parents have the final say and let me tell you, most parents do not want to deal with reality. Teachers know the absurdity of the institution and have nearly no power to change anything. It's a "public" school, and EVERYONE is allowed. It is really, really difficult; hence, I retired at 23 years. The things a teacher experiences no one would believe. You document, refer, get IEPs if fortunate enough, parent conferences, principal, AP, etc. it is challenging to have a child removed from your class, especially in elementary school. The system gives chance after chance, year after year often to no avail. I agree; it seems absurd to put up with this.

[@malamaurer4043]

@@hondafreedom9329 I really appreciate your response and comment on this. As a parent of an autistic child I literally fought with my school district to get my child out of the public school and into a setting where he could learn in a way that was conducive to him and his special needs. A child's IEP should show growth and development and every child by law ..should have an equal right to an education... Whatever that means and looks like for that specific child. If public school can't meet the needs of the child, they aren't educating them and therefore it's not an equal education and their rights are being violated. I hope this case is a wake up call for school administrators to be doing the most right thing by their kids. They need to be making an investment in their kids... in their education... so there is a future. I am hoping that is a wake up call for school administrators as well. Administration and teachers need to be on the same page and administrators need to be backing their teachers 100%. If a teachers says she feels threatened in anyway shape or form, administrators should be doing everything they can do to protect him or her to ensure a safe classroom and educational environment that is conducive to learning. If the teacher felt threatened, I can't even imagine how those students in NC's classroom were feeling. One action on the part of those administrators to remove Nic and put him in an appropriate placement could have spared so many lives, including his own.

[@bonnieabrs1003]

A dear friend of mine has a son with profound dyslexia. She fought with his school, local Board of Education, the state dept of education to get specialized education to fit his disability. When the school was faced with a potential lawsuit they agreed to giving him the help he needed. More often than not, he didn’t get the classes. He graduated from HS & could not read or write. He did some work for me & once tried to leave me a note on the chalkboard. There were some letters, no words, & drawings in the message to help me understand what he wanted to say. I called his mom to be sure we could feel he wasn’t in some kind of trouble. Turns out he was trying to say he had to go home, but would be back. This young man was the sweetest, kindest person ever. He was a brilliant artist with all forms of medium. But no one ever gave him the education he deserved. Neglect by the schools, 1-12.

[@Elenitsa3]

What this teacher and other teachers go through is exactly what the problem is. Problematic students know there are no consequences for bad behavior. All the teacher is able to do is take notes. Teachers should have more say in removing such a student from their classroom at once. This is exactly where such a disturbed student learns that he can continue to escalate such bad behavior and the adults around him will do nothing. The school system needs to deal with such a situation immediately but they allow this to continue, leaving the teacher and the rest of the students no choice but to put up with this. Such a classroom disturbance is not an isolated incident. It’s happening every day in most schools and it should not be tolerated!

[@kittygirl_thetortie498]

This is what happens when the new generation of parents fought to remove the power from the teacher in their own classroom. They (the parents) asked for it.

[@claudiadresel4216]

Maybe there should be a special school for these children where the teachers can have stricter rules .

[@kittygirl_thetortie498]

@@claudiadresel4216 according to the new generation of parents.. rules don't apply to their children. They can't and shouldn't be disciplined or held accountable for their bad behaviour. It applies to parents of average and special needs children. To each parent, their child is "untouchable" or rather shan't be held accountable for anything their kids do or face any negative consequences of their actions and behaviours.

[@theauklet]

@@kittygirl_thetortie498 It’s not just that. State and Federal laws, and Broward County policy, firce schools to keep kids like Cruz in public school long after it's clear that they are disruptive, antisocial, and violent. It's considered discrimination to do otherwise.

[@annawarner1078]

That is true. Kids like Nikolas should be removed from the classroom as soon as teachers realized that this was a continuing behavior. Other kids and teachers shoudl not be burdened with those antisocial kids.

[@TheGymnast71]

Gosh so many people had a chance to make a difference with this kid. Worst thing mother did was give him access to guns. She was CRAZY To do that.

[@jx14aby]

Worst thing was his birth mother doing drugs and drinking Colt 45's while pregnant. Just for fun, compare the booking photos of Brenda Woodard (Nicholas' mother) with Aileen Wournos - serial killer executed in Florida in 2002.

[@hotintxs]

I cannot imagine what possessed Lynda Cruz to purchase a rifle for this individual. He was a time bomb and many people were aware of his issues.

[@StrawberryFields4ever65]

Sounds as if she was too close to the situation and he possibly wore her down over time. It's ludacris, yes, that a parent could be so blind to the dangerous behaviors of a child...but this has happened time and time again! No adequate mental health care or repercussions for poor behavior set the stage for failure!

[@notmytruth.thetruth.2711]

@@hotintxs just like the mother of the horrific Sandy Hook killer.

[@aportman58]

Sorry his problems went way beyond that of guns...if he would not have had guns he would have eventually created a bomb that could have taken out hundreds of students!

[@meltorme7356]

He had serious behavior problems everyday in that class…why did they keep him in that class or even that school. No one thought he was a danger to teachers or students? He threatened that teacher all the time! Why was nothing done?

[@Ellejano]

💯🤯mind blowing that this went on day after day...they all knew he had potential to do exactly what he did and in fact he mentioned exactly what he wanted to do...sickening...how does the principle sleep at night..why was he with the other normal...not MENTALLY INSANE NORMAL CHILDREN 😳

[@maryriehm4752]

I agree

[@capricorniiio]

he was only ever suspended, whether it was in school suspensions or out of school suspensions. constantly. every student around him knew he had issues. as soon as we would hear someone yelling and screaming in the hallways we knew it was him. i don’t understand why nothing more was done either.

[@Ellejano]

@@capricorniiio imo the school system and government as a whole is seriously responsible for the mismanagement of this individual. If this was going on in Canada that individual would have been charged the first time the cops came to the house no matter the age and the Mom would not have been able to circumvent that action and he would have at least had an arrest and not able to purchase a weapon. The governments inaction is extremely responsible and the teachers that kept their records on this individual and were yelled at and talked down to should be the only ones who are without punishment in this case. NC was and is mentally incompetent as far as I am concerned and should be locked in a facility evermore clearly so that he can not hurt any more people or destroy any more lives. Im deeply saddened by this tragedy and can only hope those beautiful souls who were lost that day can be vindicated by the appropriate governmental & school system changes. Im American but raised in Canada and am appalled by the constant threat that young people face simply attending school. Be the voice of change, stand up and be heard not just 1x but everyday and in everything you do going forward in the most positive and constructive manner possible🙏💗

[@gfx2943]

Because schools are not there to teach anything, they're there to babysit snot nosed brats while their parents go to work.

[@kathy411]

Her notes really explain a lot. It’s a shame that the ones who could have maybe made a difference refused to do so. I feel like she knew he was capable of what he done and felt the need to keep all those records for years. What a great observant teacher!

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

Yes, I agree! I also think she kept those notes because she intuitively knew she might very well need them for something such as this. Our intuition tells us soooo much!

[@myob3839]

someone like him was determined- no matter how much help, from the age of 3 torturing animals to do this in one capacity or another.

[@patriciaaznavourian3014]

She's a great teacher, as a former special needs teacher , I can only imagine the fear and trauma she, her co workers and especially the children in that classroom had to endure daily! No real support, no one to help her or Nikolas. He didn't belong there, he couldn't do the work, obviously sensory and neurological issues, a lot of anger and aggressive behavior.

[@annawarner1078]

I agree. This kid was a burden on society, on his adoptive parents and on the other kids from day one. Congratulations to his biological mother - prostitute and cocaise user. You gave us a gift that we could not refuse.

[@FreeTheTrolls]

The district failed everyone here. He should have been placed in a school for behaviors. This is truly shedding light on how broken the school system is. I am a mother of a child on the spectrum, and it’s infuriating how frequently school districts fail children in every capacity.

[@normacolon9618]

Well wasnt she a special ed teacher, so she studied for this and it's not surprising, but what's surprising . where is the parents or step parents at this point any attendance. This is what happens when u dont punish or hit your kids cause right away they ll call the cops.

[@normacolon9618]

He was the bully and a get over and disruptive. Who didnt have any kind of punishment apparently or take something away to control him. He wanted to be in control of everything. Shes lucky he didnt kill her.

[@annawarner1078]

@@normacolon9618 He was adopted. His adoptive parent did not bargain to adopt the murderer.

[@marydunn2373]

Teachers do not get paid enough to deal with this kind of issue! No wonder so many are quitting!

[@sgw3612]

This teacher did everything right. A school system that forces kids like this in w other kids fails everyone.

[@hotepcracker8975]

All schools do this. Kids with behavioral issues are forced into SPED which means they are protected by the IDEA ruling. No matter how many other kids rights and safety they trample on. Our education system is badly broken.

[@alphasylpheed3861]

I am not sure about her doing EVERYTHING right, but she did about what a reasonable person would expect her to do. The problem is he needed EXTRAORDINARY intervention.

[@bonniejosavland3227]

Agreed, he was a special needs kid that should not be in with regular students!

[@Patricia-cn7ox]

I don’t think isolating different kids will do much good for anyone. Kids like him do need additional support and constant constant monitoring and therapy… something his mother was completely unable to do.

[@nobodieshome_]

Yea no. This teacher failed.

[@TheBenzKid]

I feel so bad for that teacher. All of her efforts reporting him, curbing is F grade on the tests, she literally did everything and beyond. I couldn’t imagine how she felt after that low life destroyed all of those innocent lives, no one deserves such treatment.

[@danielbobberson9849]

and now she has two attorneys with her to deal with this subpoena and I am sure she has to pay them. The nightmare continues for so many people

[@virginia9620]

Agree with everything you say except 'low life' but what is the correct word 'mentally disabled'. Low life for me means thieves, his mother, con-artist, well people that know better. Life sentence would be torture for this damaged person, me thinks death sentence would give the families a gentler kind of justice. They will forever miss their child, but keeping him alive just makes the pain linger. IMO

[@TennesseeYaya]

@@danielbobberson9849 Yes. Thank you for this observation.

[@alphasylpheed3861]

@@virginia9620 ...an what if an execution does NOT wind up making them feel significantly better?

[@gingerhickerson5792]

Nicolas. was failed by our institutions and doctors as there’s no money put into funding for such a child this is the breakdown of our public school system where at one time a student like this would be in an environment where he could be watched and helped a little bit he was beyond help from a public school , in Florida like in many red states they will not take the Medicaid expansion from the federal government to help fund special programs and be able to get help from doctors institutions psychiatrists you can’t do that when you’re poor and there’s no help for you so in actuality the mental health crisis is a lot worse in states that refuse to get people to help that they so Desperately need public schools are only doing exactly what has been laid out for them to do their hands are tied there’s nowhere to put children because there’s no money for mental health

[@consumerdebtchitchat]

The worst thing the no child Left behind movement ever did was leave kids behind because they said all kids were alike and as such thrust them into the same learning environment.

[@luckylisp455]

It's happening under the guise of 'Inclusion' whereby special schools and classes will be phased out 🙄

[@benbunyip]

It’s interesting. I teach in Japan, and I had a student like Nic Cruz. I went to my supervisor and discussed it. I said bad behavior should have consequences. Other teachers thought I was loony. They said she’s paid her school fees, so goes to class. About 18 months later that girl offed herself.

[@crissy7976]

@@benbunyip here we have the prison pipeline excuse created by obama, basically said violence was a (cultural misunderstanding) in Chicago. the board super in this district was a champion of that same Chicago policy.

[@earlydawn8183]

So right what you say student loan chit chat.

[@ladyvirtue650]

The "no child left behind" slogan was nothing more than that! I have a daughter, who still struggles today, however she's now an adult! From the time she was 7 yrs old., I noticed her behavior nd learning issues. I tried every option available to me! There was no help available. It appeared Noone knew how to help me! I even wrote the Board of education, cuty commissioner, state senators etc. NO HELP EVER CAME, or was available to us! Plus, they had Noone to recommend me too, for help. End result: Kindergarten she pulled out one of hef teachers hair out by the root due to her anger! Drs. diagnosed her as being bi-polar at age 9. End Result: She ended up dropping out of high school, gotten in trouble with the law numerous times, for theft, i can't even tell you how many times i was at the juvenile detention center.. Staff, Law enforcement, even the judge knew my name, NOW, she has a son, who's showingsome of the same behaviors nd has a learning disability also. Raising a child like this is stressful & absolutely draining, but a loving mother would do anything nd go nearly anyplace seeking help, to see their child succeed! However, I never gave up! Please keep her nd my grandson, in your prayers. 💜🙏🏾💜

[@gailwagner8115]

Think about how much time this took out of the teacher's day! That is one of several dozen children she had to keep up with.. can you imagine? This one child is a full-time job! Not to mention terrifying.

[@sherrydelavergne5949]

And sadly the school did nothing except pass him on to the next grade. 🤷‍♀️

[@RaeLiberty5262]

I can't imagine being a student in that class trying to learn with all this. And this teacher trying to teach. Lord. He should have been sent to a school that specialized in kids like him. Our education system is so underfunded it's disgusting. Maybe with the proper funding and intervention something could have changed the outcome...

[@FreeTheTrolls]

Yup. I am a mom of a child on the spectrum, and encountered children with behaviors that went to school with my son in Sped. The parents were in denial, the teachers did nothing. The same child attacked my son multiple times. It took us hiring an attorney for them to move the child. Then there was ANOTHER little girl who modeled the same behaviors. Again, attacked my son and other children. The parent’s, once again were in denial. They did nothing, so we moved our child out of the classroom. I found out they push in children with severe behaviors into a mild/mod class to ensure they “don’t have a restrictive environment”, since it’s a part of IDEA (sped law), that children be kept in the least restrictive environment. What that does is affect innocent children as well. Sped law needs to change. Parent’s can be neglectful, or simply do not advocate for their kids when they’re in Sped. It’s truly sad. I have seen a lot go on, and it’s upsetting.

[@cathykrueger4899]

Yes. He could have been institutionalized. That would have spared a lot of death and misery.

[@annmarieknapp2480]

No Child Left Behind gas royally screwed us.

[@yolandagofigure]

I agree!! It's not forget what womb he came from!! So sad!! 😢

[@MeMyselfandI25]

I felt so sorry for this witness. Teachers do not get paid enough to have to deal with delinquents like NC. The school made her deal with this lunatic too long.

[@sunshinem.8216]

I do to, but everyone passed the buck, and she ended up having to deal with him., I would have said, sorry but I'm not dealing with a monster that I didn't create any longer.

[@klmmc]

@@sunshinem.8216 that's the problem, everyone passes the buck, they do the same in Housing, if there is an issue it is passed down the line, until it is lost in the shuffle.

[@lynnetmb4706]

@@sunshinem.8216 Everyone too weak to really do something. “It’s not my problem”. Who’s problem is it now??? Oh well!!!! Too bad!! Glad it’s not my kid. 💨 THIS IS YOUR LOGIC??? Please…

[@jdemartini9807]

Should have been locked up for life at a very young age.

[@jopautify]

Calling Nikolas Cruz's a "lunatic" is distrespectful in every sense of the word!!!

[@terriobrien9147]

As a former teacher & School Psychologist I understand the dynamics that were going on between the teacher, staff and administrators. This kid was a walking red flag on a daily basis & was a danger to others. She was correct, he did not belong there. Her documentation provided all the evidence they needed to substantiate this. The burden of dealing with this student detracted from everyone and infringed on other student's rights. The amount of time required to document all of this was an incredible burden on the teacher/s and it sounds like to no avail. The school went through the motions with an evaluation, an FBA, etc but failed to utilize the data to place this student in a more appropriate setting as the " least restrictive" setting of the regular ed classroom was not adequately addressing his academic or emotional needs. Unfortunately it comes down to money & schools do not want to pay for alternative settings. This case, however, depicts gross negligence as there is a well documented history and pattern & he certainly was not making "effective progress". Unfortunately parents are not educated about getting an educational advocate or filing a case with their states' Special education board. This was a collosal failure on the school's part.

[@tmc1372]

Absolutely; gross negligence. It is shocking. The district should spend 34 life sentences in prison.

[@PinayNanayOceansideSD11]

The school retaliates when parents fights the system. Some give up easily while some are not. This kid absolutely not happy to where he was at but the system ignored the needs and sadly that us how mostly everywhere. They also threaten any school staff if they advocate for their student. Absolutely disgusting!This mental health of this kid cannot be address by calling security all the time or dealt daily by the teacher neither with other kids in the school.

[@XOXO-mb2vh]

I'm surprised Nik kept going to school and didn't drop out. Usually people with so much hate or angst quit.

[@sapodilla25]

It looks like this teacher and Ms Fondren (the behavioural specialist) were at odds. Sometimes the special ed don't like it when the general teachers keep calling for their help, and the hostility grows. I have a rude and disruptive kid in my class and I'm told time and again I should learn to handle these things on my own and they can't come to help me everytime. I have been hit in the stomach once and given the middle finger every day for the past 3 months and they don't come to take him away anymore.

[@mattheww797]

@@sapodilla25 There is no such thing as a disruptive child. There are just misunderstood children who need more attention.

[@TennesseeYaya]

Stop faulting this teacher who did everything possible to get some kind of help for this homicidal maniac!

[@bridykes9986]

She did all she could even 1:02:05 all way to the end paragraph says it all

[@FreeTheTrolls]

The school district failed her, and everyone else. Should’ve placed him at a special school that deals with behaviors like his.

[@lotus___freedom]

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[@poker2663]

This teacher sounds so nice and seem to have done a really good job dealing with NC. There should be more teachers like her.

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[@jf8050]

Bless this lady's heart. She spent a year at war.

[@TennesseeYaya]

And like all teachers, putting her life at risk, DAILY.

[@paddyholly2184]

I can tell by her voice - She's been traumatized by the experience. Bravo to Teachers who have been put on the Firing Line by the Lunatic Fringe. 🤗

[@lukaz3336]

​@@TennesseeYaya That's an exaggeration if I've ever heard one.

[@klmmc]

This teacher is great and it was good that she recorded everything. Apparently Cruz is disturbed. When he was acting up, he should have been sent to the principal's office. No teacher should have to deal with a disrespectful student..weren't the parents notified? I give this teacher credit for putting up with this nut! I can see why there is a backlog of cases.

[@dejuhvu1793]

Of course parents were notified. At some point, the school should have denied him & referred him to a school that manages troubled kids

[@TennesseeYaya]

@@dejuhvu1793 This was done.

[@hondafreedom9329]

Often, teachers are discouraged from sending students to the principal. And, even when you do, they come back to your classroom.

[@klmmc]

@@dejuhvu1793 The parents should have been called to come in and discuss the matter. There were way too many serious red flags that the teacher documented and he could have been transferred then, especially if the parents let the school know of his problems.

[@klmmc]

@@hondafreedom9329 Maybe that matter should be brought up to the authorities. I am just giving my opinion, but all schools by now should look into all areas to keep school children safe.

[@evonne315]

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. - Maya Angelou

[@mameeocean6194]

The stress of dealing with a student like this with little support is extremely stressful and a huge disservice to the other students. It takes way too long to get these kids where they need to be because they have to fail all lesser restrictive settings first. I had a fourth grader that I always said, “He’s gonna kill somebody one day.” Well a couple years ago, there he was in the headlines for triple homicide. My friends were so dismayed and said, “OMG Amy, you called it, you called it YEARS ago.” It’s absolutely sickening and devastating.

[@KatJ3st]

Teaching under duress...why did they not do something with this kid then? He's at the emotional level of an angry toddler. His parents were in MAJOR denial.

[@James-th7wb]

This teacher begged for help and they did nothing to help her

[@johndowe17]

What could they do?

[@hotepcracker8975]

He was classified as SPED. They are protected. Can't do anything. They can assault, destroy property, disrupt, be violent in general and there is nothing we can do. With a SPED ruling, they have superior rights.

[@mvubu6823]

What parents?

[@graceykinz]

i think his parents were absolutely in denial about him having issues

[@denisceballos9745]

The school district dropped the ball with this kid - allowing him to get away with deplorable behavior. It’s a sad commentary on how things get progressively worse and there’s no accountability.

[@maureenlaneski2802]

They just waited for him to matriculate.

[@jx14aby]

It's called "falling through the cracks" or "kicking the can down the road." Mr. Vesey said he is haunted for not following up when Nicholas was mainstreamed to Marjorie Stoneman High school.

[@denisceballos9745]

@@jx14aby True - Mr. Vesey’s testimony was very revealing. By the time this kid got to the high school, it was probably too late.

[@areality40]

You know it's actually a really good thing that thorough details about this kid are made public on television, etc. People can really see the signs of a ticking time bomb in its building phase. At some point, people have to come together and do all they can to assure this senseless shooting doesn't occur again with another kid with serious mental issues.

[@vickihurley]

exactly

[@christinehodges6]

I can’t imagine having to deal with all of the sociopathic behaviors this teacher had to deal with! There’s no solution for a kid like this, other than a locked facility where he cannot harm anyone. What a strong, patient woman! I have so much respect for her. I’m sure this was beyond exhausting to have to revisit. Hope she is doing well. ❤️

[@NaveDelAmor]

I'm amazed at the fact that nc sits there quietly, well behaved, not a peep out of order...so he knows when he can get away with what. He gets squirmy, looks at his lawyers and hangs head low.

[@Laura-kl7vi]

He's 23 now, not 12. Big difference. Also likely properly medicated.

[@Kinkle_Z]

I'm sure glad my guidance counsellor in College talked me out of an Education major! What a nightmare.

[@benbunyip]

I’m a teacher. I never recommend students to be teachers.😂

[@anatheistmyself]

@Kinky Epic AND Hilarious comment.! 🤣

[@capricorniiio]

aww she was my language arts teacher. i’m so glad that they have so many people speaking out because it’s important for people to understand all these perspectives

[@LeechWoman]

and the Queen of Namtucket was my spaceship teacher and i live on jupiter in a blueberry sock

[@KaullyHD]

i bet you bullied him

[@canadianbeef1958]

@@KaullyHD why say that?

[@capricorniiio]

@@KaullyHD lmfao what. i only shared one class with him and we were on opposite ends of the class. i was a shy kid and he was quiet and reserved in that class. never spoke a word to him. never witnessed anybody bully him either. on the contrary. he also antagonized most of the staff. mind you this was in middle school. i didn’t go to douglas. strangers on the internet are so weird.

[@capricorniiio]

@@canadianbeef1958 people are strange. probably trying to justify him killing 17 people that never did anything to him. :b

[@Horchata_and_tacos]

The contrast between his behavior they are describing vs. how he is while in court is nothing short of amazing to me.

[@peacehappyb237]

His defense lawyer said he was medicated in court.

[@beanj580]

This is 8th grade as opposed to his current age

[@jojobee42]

When you have a student like this and nothing works, it's just constant abnormal bad behaviour and aggression, the child should be taken away to some institution/rehabilitation centre for a while. This kind of kids don't grow into good adults without intervention. So to protect the child's peers and the society, and even the child themselves, drastic action should be taken! And that is, in my opinion, taking the child out of their home and environment, and putting them in a 24/7 place for as long as needed. Have professionals work on them and let the kid out when (if) they are deemed safe enough.

[@graceykinz]

i think part of the failure is on the parents for being in denial about the amount of damage this kid had before he was even born, should have been in a juvenile mental health facility and given adhd meds yup

[@blessall8856]

You are totally right.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

i'm agreeing with you more, however sadly its too late for him.

[@Patricia-cn7ox]

So isolating a child and taking him/her into a place full of people with behavioral issues is best? I doubt that. He needed 24/7 monitoring though, there I agree. However, you can do this without a youth rehabilitation center. Youth centers are just a cheaper way to do this monitoring. The fact that a kid with these many issues can access weapons is the biggest problem here.

[@angtxsun4460]

@@Patricia-cn7ox Yes, because a teacher and students should not have to go to a publicly funded school every single day and put up with such crap! What about their learning and the teacher’s safety and well being? She is not a special ed teacher, he was not in special ed classes, he was mainstreamed and was in classes with regular students.

[@snoot4873]

The fact this kid displayed signs almost his entire life and still so little is done. Mostly because actual psych care is nearly impossible or you need a second mortgage payments for a fancier insurance

[@graceykinz]

Whole system is corrupt, insurance is such a barrier to entry

[@KatJ3st]

Agreed. For all the talk, there's little done for these kind of kids.

[@dejuhvu1793]

Yup. If they need mental help, then CPS is running after & threatening the parents. It’s so hard to get actual help. You either can’t afford it, can’t find a spot for your kid, or they don’t actually help. Now, he still decided to murder people & deserves to be locked up for life. However, it’s obvious this kid didn’t get the actual help he needed.

[@doreenplischke2169]

Sadly the case in the US

[@jf8050]

There's nothing that could have been done that would have helped him. He was a rotten apple, rotten to the core.

[@Lindenrd25]

I honestly don't think any amount of intervention or money would have helped Cruz.

[@blessall8856]

They gave him a great deal of help and support, plus wealthy, caring parents in a plush home and that is a great start in life. However, his genetics were terrible, having a violent, addict mother and probably a crazed, criminal biological father, which leads to this result in a child. Therapy cannot change the criminal genetics this kid inherited and maybe he should have been in an institution, with appropriate strategies and monitoring because he is violent and not career-oriented at all. The teacher is right and he should have been placed early on in a school for high-risk delincuents and also a vocational training school.

[@KatJ3st]

Agreed. And there are so many more coming up...

[@TennesseeYaya]

💯 agreed @Edmund Donnelly

[@becks_bird]

Right, and then you have people saying, “if only more kids sat with him at lunch” or “maybe he just needed a friend”. People, even kids, have instinct to know when someone is dangerous and stay far away from them.

[@paddyholly2184]

@@KatJ3st Especially since Roe v Wade was gutted. Every Repuke & Bible puncher should be Mandated to foster a child. Maybe, they'll get a child who isn't irreparably damaged.

[@MommaH1419]

This teacher is being treated like she did something wrong? She was amazing!

[@Kinkle_Z]

When I went to school, a kid like that would have been kicked out on Day 2 of his atrocious behavior. Day 2 and sent to Juvenile Hall until adulthood.. then to a guarded adult facility as a lifelong ward of the state. To watch all of the entries month after month, all screaming "I'm dangerous and will be a school shooter!" yet nothing was done...? Hard to grasp!

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

and when was that?

[@emakelley6807]

Right where I’m from we got tickets just for swearing …. Any kid doing this would absolutely be in juvenile detention

[@bridykes9986]

Juvenile hall near my house got shut down but yes that's what they did In my area and Im 34 the courts stopped it few years after I graduated also military school I'm not sure that's a thing anymore but yeah a kid acting like this would have been expelled or having to go to court ect.

[@cwaloszczyk2650]

In Canada in the 1970s, it was called “reform school.”

[@cwaloszczyk2650]

@@bridykes9986 Yes, I remember friends being threatened with military school by their parents.

[@nidurnevets]

Imagine being stuck with this student all year, every day.

[@aliciastarsaturn2841]

Unbelievable the crap she went through!

[@rayluby6659]

This is not excusing or defending what he did, just providing my view on a lesson we can learn from this so we can prevent this type of situation. Teaching children to communicate is so key. Their ability to communicate will frame their view of the world. Having an emotional/mental vocabulary really affects how a person sees the world and interacts with others. Building communication skills greatly improves a person’s life

[@KatJ3st]

Too bad nothing will be done. We are breeding them everyday. Drug addicts get extra support (financial) when they are pregnant. They often get pregnant alot.

[@blessall8856]

That's right. They are showing every aspect of this trial, so that EVERYONE can learn from it and prevent this from happening again or repeating itself.

[@DarhaLB]

You are SO right. Well said.!!! 💯

[@jodievukmir3187]

Tell that one to all the kids on their phones

[@joeluisishere]

@@blessall8856 um the drug addicted mother's and father don't see these trial they're to busy getting high. This is how the children come out and most get sent to foster care.

[@jay1225ful]

The curly haired public defense attorney is horrible..imo

[@cynjones2126]

man his writings are chaotic only imagine his thought process

[@rebekahlikesmusic2723]

Bless her heart. Teachers deserve a much higher salary 💚💯

[@benbunyip]

Probably in the US. teachers are underpaid. But what they need more than better wages is leadership and adequate funding to build institutions that can deal with the Nicolas Cruzes of this world. Better & diverse curriculum for kids like Cruz. (He’s obviously not the academic type.) One on one teaching. Clearly set of consequences for bad behavior. This requires funding.

[@ellev11]

and not to have to deal with this, not for one day including all the other students. What a mess of a system.

[@BloomByCC]

I cannot even wrap my head around how this falls on teachers. This is insane, kids that are this disruptive, that I obviously have so many mental health issues, should NEVER be in a mainstreamed classroom.

[@moosh35]

If you read 12/13 it says NC had a great day. This was the day after he acted out and now the security guard was in class with him(a strong female) It says he participated and stayed on task. The day before he was awful and was scolded by the same security guard. This boy needed a strong person to keep him on track and serious counseling. So sad this all happened.

[@annmarieknapp2480]

This teacher is commendable. I'm so sorry she had to deal with this and didn't get help she needed.

[@cs7015]

I wonder how disgusted the parents feel over the lack of intervention by administration time and time again? It's clear by this teacher's testimony here, and as far back to pre-school Red flags ignored consistently.

[@earlydawn8183]

Weak and ineffective senior management.

[@rosswillson8124]

He could have been turned around well before Grade 8, if only we had invested more into child psychology and special education

[@Arch497]

It is weird for me to watch this because I remember being disruptive in class too when I was in high school. My geography teacher would shake her head every time I made a rude comment, and my English teacher once said I'm excused from class afterward she told me that if I want to go to a special needs school, there is one down the road. I was acting up because my grandmother had died, in a rather gruesome way after struggling with breast cancer. I never wanted to really hurt other people though, only considered hurting myself, acting up for attention, and jokes to make myself feel better. I guess was lucky to have a father that took an interest in my education, or maybe it was online friends I made playing video games, or maybe it was because my mother didn't consume drugs when pregnant with me, but it kinda creeps me out being behaviorally similar to this monster. One struggles to think about what inhuman thoughts go inside his brain.

[@nancyecuer402]

So what the defense is trying to say is, when a drug addict has a child she doesn’t want, abuses, neglects etc,the child should be excused when he kills , physically and mentally hurts innocent people. No, what should be done is, since birth control is free, woman shouldn’t be paid to have children . I’m a retired nurse, years ago babies were born to married couples that wanted and could afford children, not because they wanted a bigger check. The things I saw at the end of my career leads me to believe that this violent behavior will surely be repeated. People should be made to be responsible when having children, not irresponsible. Birth control is free have a baby when you are in a healthy relationship, able to financially and emotionally support the child. Raise your child don’t just let them grow.

[@Laura-kl7vi]

It was a sentencing hearing-he already pleaded guilty. Jury was charged with choosing life in prison or the death penalty. Defense is trying to have him get life.

[@tmc1372]

I assume there will be a class action lawsuit against the school district. This in unbelievable. I hold the school district largely responsible.

[@dziewczynaa]

I feel so sorry for this teacher... It was such a nightmare.Take care!

[@ninagabryel7249]

This is the lawyer who gave the middle finger to the court. Shame.

[@RogerBaumgarten]

This review of his middle school record seems more useful in preventing the next such mass shooting, but I fail to see how this is relevant to his sentencing now.

[@claudettes9697]

I think y’all not understanding is you trying to be provocative. Unless you’re really saying you dont understand the difference between life and death, and his defense is arguing his issues? Really?

[@fluffypinkpandas]

yeah i think its just more of a display to show what goes on in their heads early on. i noticed another shooter had their school work and drawings displayed in court also. There are signs and we have to act early early early. We can't keep waiting until after theyve already done it. "bah we'll get em in sentencing" GET EM BEFORE THEY GET A KD RATIO

[@RogerBaumgarten]

All that said...how was he not removed from school IMMEDIATELY and PERMANENTLY??? This was allowed to continue for YEARS with no intervention.

[@joeluisishere]

I don't get why people feel they could had done something differently so he wouldn't had killed all those students. He was destructive from inside his head. He wasn't going to listen to anyone no matter what they did. He had brain 🧠 crazy

[@maryellenhagy4526]

Red flags ALL OVER THE PLACE

[@mallorymcfall]

The fact Ms. V instructed the teacher to handle the situation by getting in his face saying “go ahead hit me” is beyond me.

[@alphasylpheed3861]

I know it is beyond you, but for reasons you do not/can not understand standing up to bullies works. Bullies are MORE afraid than they are brave, that is why they bully. Again...I do not expect you to understand.

[@bonniejosavland3227]

It’s unprofessional & scary; she could get sued if he did soy& she hit back or accidentally hurt him while protecting herself 😳🥹

[@paddyholly2184]

@@missvegasable Plus, standing up to mentally disturbed kids/adults/politicians 😉 Can put one on The Hit List for future retribution.

[@paddyholly2184]

@@alphasylpheed3861 I Hope You're brave enough to Stand Up to todays bullies.

[@benbunyip]

@@alphasylpheed3861 You’re right about bullies, but a teacher can’t engage in or provoke violence with a student. You could get fired.

[@pep-o-wispy]

I'm just surprised he sat through this trial without any outbursts.

[@MisterMG101]

That's the magic of medication.

[@beanj580]

Because he's 23 not 12

[@jacklenoor3368]

No child should have to go to such an environment of violence as this school and have to put up with such vile language Surely the students were letting parents know what was taking place at their school

[@TennesseeYaya]

This happens every single day. Look at all the comments here.

[@normacolon9618]

Which child, he nc wss the ev one sin e his younger days. He knows how to write bit...ch and f.u.

[@hotepcracker8975]

Can't do anything with a kid with a SPED ruling. They can beat up, disrupt, tear up and assault with no recourse cause they have rights no matter that the others kids rights are being trampled on. All protected by the Special Education umbrella. IDEA ruling

[@TennesseeYaya]

Exactly!

[@debidriscoll8108]

I'm so glad this teacher was so meticulous in her notes

[@LeechWoman]

was she paid for her time?

[@MarcyTrivette]

I've worked in my local school system as a 2nd grade teacher assistant and as a substitute teacher for grades Pre-K to 8th grade. I have never seen any student like this, writing things like that and drawing such pictures on assignments. He is a truly disturbed young man.

[@nbgilbert]

Everyone of his teachers identified him as a serious problem. Did anybody listen to these teachers? No. And work how long there confidential records are waiting to be viewed. I had students like this too. Many of them landed up dead or they killed someone. Maybe we should start listening to teachers? Maybe we should have stronger laws and consequences for these monsters..

[@BWilderChannel]

The problem is that children behaving like this don’t get kicked out of a school. When I was going to school there was absolutely no bad behavior accepted. If we would have talked disrespect to a teacher just once or would have had just one physical altercation with another kid, we would have been kicked out of school. And we all knew that and we behaved.

[@psmith9789]

And she passed him to the 9th grade? WHY?!

[@Mama2CDHsurvivor]

Because of his IEP, he’d have to be passed on. His level is different than other kids his age.

[@zubetp]

would you want to see this kid around the school for another year lol

[@mommypix]

My son spent half of his first grade year in fear to go to class because they put a kid with issues like this who was violent and disruptive everyday in a regular classroom. He was literal crying and in fear for his physical safety. kids like NC do not belong in the normal classroom setting. Doesn’t benefit them nor the other kids that have to suffer through the chaos. The system took a child who was a socially inept toddler and turned him into a lonely angry outcast and cemented that in his mind because there is no way someone with his issues could function in a normal setting. He went all the way through each grade like this. it’s failure from the get go and now we all suffer because of it. he was crying out for help and nothing was done. the poor children and teachers that he murdered in cold blood. He’s a monster. How many other kids are out there like this or becoming like this because we fail to see them and address it. justice was not done.

[@mommypix]

@Anaja S it’s a shame, I wonder what it will take to reverse this way of managing kids with behavioral issues.

[@sharonwilson5489]

Im not. sure what defense is trying to present This teacher. did everything right She deserves a medal At times it felt as though at times it felt the teacher was being attacked

[@zubetp]

i think their point is that he's always been disturbed, as opposed to a sane person who chose to commit a mass murder.

[@stevene9785]

@@zubetp What a shame you have to explain this basic concept to another adult.

[@justthatgirl-ct4jo]

They're showing he has been damaged his entire life. It has nothing to do with the teacher failing him or not.

[@zubetp]

@@stevene9785 eh, she's fine. i have seen some truly unhinged comments on here. once saw a guy insist that fruit was unhealthy because it's got calories.

[@benbunyip]

@@zubetp 😂😂😂

[@Dreamagain11]

"why are you here" "you forced me"

[@annawarner1078]

If you are a teacher - can you imagine this kid in your class? What impact he had on other students? This is terrible!

[@BangBang-tj2rc]

He’s basically like Jonah from the Summer Heights High show

[@FreeTheTrolls]

I have a child on the spectrum, and when a child has behaviors they get FBA’s and behavior plans. Doesn’t sound like any of that was done. He also had a clear learning disability and he was pushed into a mainstream classroom?! This is insane. All this is doing is shedding light on how broken the education system is. Districts fail everyone! So many red flags, and the district failed to listen.

[@yeoldeseawitch]

you have a defective child

[@Tzippi]

I am not defending this kid, but how did it get this far? Why did everybody shrug and just pass this kid along? I honestly am beginning to blame the school board, and his therapists. Why was this kid even in school? The kid can’t write a paragraph, how did he get to the eighth grade? There’s a ton of fingers to be pointed at his teachers, do administrators, the school board, his therapist, and the police department because no one did anything except push him along and push him push him along. So this lady was writing a ton of referrals, but nobody did anything about it? Why?

[@becks_bird]

Exactly, so many warning signs. Clearly he needed to be in a specialized program where he could be monitored more closely. Seems like a born psychopath. I’ve noticed a lot comments about how he must have been “bullied” or maybe if kids at school were nicer to him he wouldn’t have been this way. I don’t buy it, even the adults around him were scared of him.

[@Tzippi]

@@becks_bird Exactly! When I try to tell people that are not watching the trial, they think I’m crazy. I have been watching every single day and I’m leaning towards the jury will give him life and not death.

[@gabormenczelesz3189]

Z2 100% agreed.

[@normacolon9618]

Yea she should have showed him she wasnt threatened and punished him in the corner or some where in the school where they seat him alone till they have a change.

[@angelaerlendson2489]

This judge absolutely hates it when people say sorry. 😂

[@susangreen1986]

I commend this teacher for the actions she took with alerting people within the education system as well as help specialists and other authorities to bring about the appropriate support and benefit. As a primary teacher myself of over 20 years plus teaching in the UK, I can appreciate the demands of supporting behavioural issues by going through the different outside agencies to seek the required help. The timeline attached is a lengthy process with form filling, meetings with minutes being taken, documentation and evidence as proof to support claims being made. It is critical that such paper work is kept for future reference in such a case as this and not only for end of term report writing. Once again, my praises go to this teacher who held her ground and proved herself extremely worthy.

[@zubetp]

reminds me of a kid who was in my class in fifth grade. my friends and i were sitting in the grass, and he came up to us apropos of nothing and started hurling rocks the size of softballs at us. i told the teacher, but he was on a behavior contract, so there he was, sitting in class with us, at recess with us, as if it didn't even matter. what's to be done about a kid like this? violently resistant to any kind of help because he sees no value in change. filled with outward aggression, seemingly takes pleasure in negative attention. it's perplexing. obviously, because we're having days and days of testimony trying to figure out what went wrong. i wish he'd engage in some introspection and then be candid, but he'd rather act out like a toddler. he's disappointing.

[@dougstewart3243]

I was in a class with a teacher who locked a kid out of the classroom and the school as they had an outdoor entrance in every class

[@anyatranter5588]

This kid was horrifically let down all round.the stress from being stuck in a school that he clearly was not capable of succeeding in,and the guarantee of utter failure signed his antisocial deal with the devil.He should have been in a special school with psychological support.This all costs too much money.

[@emmaaye2620]

He is bullying this teacher like he did to his adoptive mother and cry when no one loves him.

[@cviegas8743]

useless public schools passing kids forward when the math and reading are two grades behind.

[@Augfordpdoggie]

this is the fault of the parents, the school board buckles to the pressures of the parents

[@warsyndrome]

In Florida and most southern states along the east coast (so Georgia , South Carolina , Kentucky and Florida ) do not “hold kids back”. They just give them the classes they failed the next year. So example failed 7th grade math you take it again in 8th grade along with 8th grade math. However. If you don’t pass either or they forget about it and you start all over again in high school. And if you pass you pass. If you don’t then they just add in the classes per semester or give you two in a year at the same time and possibly hold you in school since you no longer have “7 classes “ they’ll make you stay 9 classes in a day if they want. However that’s not very common. But it is possible. Basically. You’re screwed if you fall behind once. Cuz. You’ll never be able to catch up.

[@BoilsonA]

The way the defence is talking to teacher. Very abrupt aggressive undertones. Not acceptable at all ! Do they not teach communication skills as part of a law degree.

[@ihikealone]

This is incredibly sad for so many reasons.

[@jx14aby]

That's what makes it so interesting. When you step back and look at what happened, you can just see all the pieces falling into place before the explosion happens.

[@ellev11]

@@jx14aby or if not leading up to that point at least at the very moment he wrote, "i want to kill" and "school shooting" Saying the system is broken is an understatement.

[@BWilderChannel]

The school should be sued as well for letting a disruptive, aggressive, dangerous kid stay in their school.

[@doncarloswijayakusuma]

Every teacher should look at what and how she work, Great job!

[@nbgilbert]

Unless you were/are a teacher you have no idea how much time these people spent documenting his behavior. And in the meantime, with all of the resources provided there was nothing that anybody could do for him. What does society do with these people? They’re out there and they’re ready to kill or perpetrate violence. And for everyone we know about how many thousands of others out there undetected? And who’s at risk mostly? Women and children.

[@ma.lvarex]

As a once trouble making middle schooler myself I remember doing the smallest things and getting referrals, 3 referrals and the next was alternative school. This teacher not only documented but she suggested it to the parents and was still allowed to stay in that school I was no where near as rude and disrespectful as NC and ended up at Alternative. The school system and adults failed him, the victims, their families, teachers and everyone else involved in the incident this should have been dealt with long before and just goes to show that kids do learn what they can get away withb

[@gentle.unicorn]

I think that more teachers should do this in these extreme circumstances, and there should be some sort of monitoring to check for these behaviors so they can be addressed by somebody who has more specialized training in psychology. These types of things are steps toward preventing gun violence, as well as other destructive behaviors.

[@pnwpride8655]

The sexboat lol Who else laugh after they saw his essay?

[@DanielL-j1h]

Me! This guy has a great sense of humor. His middle finger drawings had me laughing out loud

[@440SPN]

I give the teacher credit for performing as well as she did under very adverse circumstances around NC. That she intuitively kept some of his written material speaks volumes, she felt threatened by him. Feel very bad for her tremendous suffering with someone who obviously posed a challenge to her very existence. So sad.

[@alexpeace4167]

It just seems that with this person this was bound to happen, no matter what anyone did for him. He's all messed up.

[@emakelley6807]

Should have been in jail or mental institute a long time ago, maybe it would have helped. NO internet access.

[@Monica-le9oi]

My son’s school is passing the buck on a kid like NC right now. Every single day my child comes home and says “Student coughs on classmates when they don’t laugh at his jokes. Students name threw his school issued laptop at classmate/ threw laptop to the ground/ dropped on students head etc. Student tried to push kid down steps. Whole class held because Student would not stop talking. Whole class was last for lunch AGAIN because Student would not follow direction.etc” Not only are they ignoring Student’s behavior, they are creating animosity with him and classmates because they all get punished at times for HIS behavior. “He has a right to an education” is the response

[@progers018]

Sweet jesus. Getting more parents involved could help?

[@bernardofitzpatrick5403]

Get an educational psychologist involved at a minimum.

[@victorcortescisneros4080]

It was crystal clear since the very begining this was not a normal person, but nobody seemed to pay attention to the teacher's reports.

[@nia4842]

Telling some children they're bad children results in them believing it and acting on it. I remember a little boy who was labeled bad by all the adults around him. If I'm being honest, he was a handful. I noticed that because I always referred to him as a good little boy, he was well behaved in my presence. He would act a certain way for those who gave him positive reinforcements. I can't even imagine dealing with a 15-year-old who was called a weirdo or bad their whole life. I'm not excusing him in the least, just pointing out how some children are affected by labeling.

[@KatJ3st]

He was WAY beyond positive reinforcements by the time he got to grade 8. Way beyond. He was heading into psychotic mode

[@l.a.w.79]

He was a troubled soul

[@focusintegrity8490]

He looked up school shootings. He fantasized on killing.

[@joeluisishere]

He was troubled from start this was him at his worst and escalating to his murderous way.

[@brendonwilhelmi_7251]

Nia ...just thankyou. This is a very true and intelligent observation. I really appreciate people like you in this world.

[@evahernandez8156]

Can you imagine having your child sitting on a classroom with this psychotic student and having to be exposed to his foul language. Yet each district have in their mission statement that each student be provided a safe environment....really is this a safe environment? I don't think so. Parents need to speak up and bring this to the states attention.

[@MisterMG101]

Foul language should be the least of your worries with someone like this. This kid expressed his sick desires in the class work.

[@jay1225ful]

I’m not rooting for the defense’s success, but these public defenders are not that good at questioning their own witnesses. The curly haired lady that wears glasses doesn’t dig deeper. She seems to not listen well and misses opportunities to get the witnesses to open up. The defense attorney is more concerned with asking her next question not what the witness is revealing.

[@jojo-ov7or]

They’re not digging for answers from their own witnesses. They know what evidence they want coming out and when they get it, they move on

[@workingonmyroar7944]

They can’t always know what a witness is going to say Everyone is still Human and yes they should be paying attention always

[@ermaek2145]

And how did this person get hold of a gun?

[@bunny4ever62]

Because he is smarter than people think!

[@ermaek2145]

@@bunny4ever62 You don't have to be smart in your country to get a gun. Your gun "laws" are useless. And GOP politicians defend those useless laws. That's how your no 1 cause of death among children is school shootings.

[@Em-df4ww]

The price of freedum.

[@kristenbarker29]

Although the police had been called to the residence many times, he was never arrested up until the shooting, therefore he had a "clean record". When they do background checks to sell firearms, I do not believe they look at a juvenile record. Tbh, he just got away with everything he did wrong. The background check would have shown a clear record. Failure on the systems part

[@annwood6812]

Children do not do this poorly because they want to do poorly. Children always want to do well. That is my experience as a teacher. This kid should never have been in this classroom. His presence was a detriment to him and to the other students.

[@tmc1372]

Why is the school district not on trial?

[@amandao266]

If teachers have to deal with kids even half as bad at NC, I can understand why we have a teacher shortage. It's ridiculous and makes me so sad for the other children and how disrupted their education was every day. Unacceptable.

[@amandao266]

And why was a kid like this not put in residential care with a school on premises?

[@aportman58]

This teacher did everything in her power to explain that NCs problems were very deep and probably not going to be able to be corrected!

[@yolandagofigure]

...😢❤️🙏.. may God bless this teacher she tried.

[@MarceloRomero360]

I'm trying to understand why so much time and so many resources are being spent on deciding this monster's fate. It is fact that he murdered 17 people. To quote Paulie Gaultieri, "What's there to think about?!".

[@claudettes9697]

Life and death are a big deal. Ppl want him to die, they have to defend that.

[@MarceloRomero360]

@@claudettes9697 Don't you think his own actions speak as the best argument for his execution?

[@claudettes9697]

@@MarceloRomero360 We don’t put challenged people to death. You understand that part? You understand the job of the defense?

[@MarceloRomero360]

@@claudettes9697 Actually Claudette I don't understand. It wasn't a crime of passion. It was thought out. He could have stopped himself after the first shot. He made a conscious decision to keep shooting.

[@l.a.w.79]

It’s called Due Process. I thank God we have that ability in America.

[@syncopowerstations]

Plenty of us hurt inside all the time and we don't take it out on anybody.

[@thomasdoyle9748]

He talked about killing people, shootings in 8th grade! How could a teacher possibly teach with his behavior in the class? There need to be places for troubled kids who dont belong in public school. How could he possibly succeed in public school?

[@ladyvirtue650]

The "No Child Left Behind" slogan was nothing more than that! I have a daughter, who still struggles today, however, she's now an adult! From the time she was 7 yrs old., I noticed her behavior nd learning issues. I tried every option available to me! There was no help available. It appeared as if Noone really knew how to help me! I even wrote the Board of education, city commissioner, state senators etc. NO HELP EVER CAME, or solutions available to us! Plus, they didn't Noone to recommend me too, for help. In Kindergarten, age 4, she pulled one of her teachers hair out by the root, due to her anger! Drs. finally diagnosed her as being bi-polar at age 9. Oftentimes, I felt helpless. End Result: She ended up dropping out of high school, gotten in trouble with the law numerous times, for theft, I can't even tell you how many times I was at the juvenile detention center.. Staff, Law enforcement, even the Judge knew my name. NOW, she has a handsome son, who's showing many of the same behaviors nd has a learning disability also. From my experience, I can tell you that, Raising a child like this is beyond stressful & absolutely draining, but a loving mother would do anything nd go nearly anyplace seeking help, to see their child succeed, I never gave up! Yes, I even wrote Dr. Phil seeking help! Please keep her nd my grandson, in your prayers 💜🙏🏾💜

[@Earthbound369]

God bless you & your daughter. I know how hard it is without help.

[@kris78787]

I’m praying for your family 🙏

[@ym4179]

It’s POINTLESS for teachers to document things like this when NOTHING GETS DONE!! This are HUGE RED FLAGS THAT EVERY TEACHER SHOULD LOOK OUT FOR ALWAYS!! If the child is mean, quite (without friends )etc… the TEACHERS NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND NOT IGNORE IT!!

[@bernardofitzpatrick5403]

Totally agree.

[@C.I366]

They should have called the Police when he said he wants to kill

[@BangBang-tj2rc]

Couldn’t agree more