Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz customized high-powered rifle days before massacre: New details

Nikolas Cruz purchased the rifle used to kill 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, days before the Feb 14, 2018, shooting. Michael Morrison, who owned a gun shop in the area, testified during Cruz's sentencing about the purchase of the weapon and what was added to the firearm after purchase.
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[@salmeli2992]

You can literarily see the pain in this guys face. This is a man that took pride in his job, just for a monster to ruin it for him.

[@Allergictocatstoo]

He owned the business, it was t a job, he had no boss. He was a business owner, it’s different!

[@armedpatriot8611]

@@Allergictocatstoo explain

[@hectorg362]

@@armedpatriot8611 What do you need explaining in?

[@carlotheatheistii546]

@@hectorg362 the explanation here is he owned the rifle dealership, he have business and licensed permit. his rifle and gun dealership complete of papers and documents to operate. he obeyed the laws of selling legal weapons. now he's not the responsible from this massacre.

[@MrPaxio]

that guys world definitely shifted once he realized hes gonna have to testify in court, because he was working his job normally. hope they pay him for his time. i doubt the employer or store would allow someone not to come in for a day even with legitimate reasons.

[@jewelselle_ginger4642]

From the Uber driver to the firearm dealer, I’d hate to be any of them. They did nothing wrong by doing their jobs but they have to live with the fact that their lives intertwined with that of a mass shooter.

[@hus390]

Uber driver should have zero guilt. She could have known anything. If this idiot seller feels any guilt, 🔔 well, it was his fault, to a degree. That's why he's sad. If he sold him a knife/hammer, and Cruz stabbed/smashed people, I will say he's without liability. Knifes and hammers can be used in a lot of useful ways. But he sold him a very dangerous weapon (tactical semi-auto long rifle with high capacity) with no need for it whatsoever. If Cruz wanted a gun for personal protection, should sold him a hand gun.

[@jewelselle_ginger4642]

@@hus390 I wouldn’t blame the dealer. I’d blame the laws that allowed an 18 year old, especially with a history of instability, to buy such a weapon.

[@MadGunny]

@@hus390 he did nothing wrong. The responsibility of this is 100% the fault of Cruz and no one else

[@joeswanson401]

@@jewelselle_ginger4642 You realize there's 14-year-olds in inner cities walking around with full-auto every day, and they didn't have to go through this guy to get theirs! Stop blaming the gun and blame the sick individuals who commit these acts. Give citizens the tools to defend themselves when one of these cowards shows up!

[@bradleyknopp7303]

@@joeswanson401 wait what??? Where was he blaming the gun here... did you read the comment above.i think you meant to reply to the second commenter not the OP. seems like he is not blaming the gun or blaming this man everyone seems to realize its not his fault its the laws that they had a problem with... he was following all laws

[@codyanderson8698]

Imagine selling someone a car and losing your business because they chose to drive drunk. Sickening. I hope he gets taken care of. Paving is hard work.

[@y0h0p38]

​@@nickpaine2767 Neither is an AR-15? I can't find a military that uses them

[@Jarrow13]

@@nickpaine2767 An AR 15 isn't a weapon of war. I know of no military ever issuing AR 15's to their soldiers. PS, a sword is also a deadly weapon, yet no one blames the shop owner who sold it. Every time you guys blame inanimate objects, you are one step away from having those objects on the defense stand with a lawyer.

[@rickdeckard7161]

@@y0h0p38 didn't you know AR stand for "assault rifle" and not "armalite" (spelling on armalite?) 😂

[@y0h0p38]

@@rickdeckard7161 uhm aktualy the AR in AR-15 stands for Anal raper

[@Random-zj5fn]

@@rickdeckard7161 bro what 😂 AR-15 it’s an Arma lite rifle it’s not an assault rifle lol

[@haileyiris2025]

Poor man, you can see how awful and tense he feels. He’s having to face the families and I surely hope no one blames him individually. You never know who that person is or what their purposes are when purchasing a firearm.

[@sloppiestrig2880]

thats why it shouldnt be so easy to purchase a firearm

[@connorisswole]

@@sloppiestrig2880 his statment would still apply tho u never know what there purposes are

[@calvincandie5344]

@@sloppiestrig2880 its not you have to pass a background check..do you think liquor stores do background checks for dui's before selling beer or liquor? Drunk drivers kill more people per year than all mass shootings combined....

[@yaakovlasson2485]

He could have taken a day and looked into cruz's past

[@Neotype33]

@@yaakovlasson2485 So that is what the FBI/State police are supposed to do with this FFL form and with the info sent to them. Sometimes they find something and some-times they put a hold on the purchase until they can dig into the persons past if they have a 'history' of contracts with the police or they have a common name that others have. Some take 30 seconds and other take 30 min or more if they FBI/State police should dig in deeper.

[@dueler8281]

If it wasn’t Michael’s business it would have been any other gun store. I hope you find peace sir. ❤️

[@jessefowler2733]

EXACTLY. They are all in the business of murder supply.

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

Absolutely no reason to feel guilty.

[@rayharvey1330]

Are you people blind...One look at Cruz and you can see he's a psycho...I wouldn't have sold that loozer a damn slingshot.

[@vav413]

Almost as if access to mass muder-capable weapons might need a bit more looking at edit: y'all wild. I said LOOKING AT. Jesus. What's the point of preventing ANYTHING at all according to these replies.

[@3gunshooter60]

@@vav413 that would be anything you could emagine. People who are hell bent on killing will use anything they can to make it happen. Do your research sir/ Ma'am

[@teddybusch7726]

That’s very unfortunate for Michael, I met him one time at his store on wiles road and he is a very stand up guy very professional. Sucks that piece or human garbage had to bring this man into this case.

[@Lucia-Sosa]

So well said. That kid truly human garbage.

[@MrBonners]

One look at Cruz and nothing of concern rises up?.....Really? Scuba diving goggles glasses would be a clue.

[@jjwoelkers7954]

@@MrBonners he didn’t have those then

[@LanaRioss]

@@MrBonners what an ignorant, superficial, and dumb way of thinking. 1.) Appearances can be deceiving 2.) He wasn't wearing the glasses then.

[@johnd3124]

@@jackiehiaring7805 exactly, wtf do you need it for.

[@TrentEngineFan]

You can see in his eyes that he still feels horribly guilty and partially responsible for this tragedy. Poor guy, I hope he can move past this and come to terms with the fact that it wasn't his fault.

[@ipissed]

Would you mind buying his coffee on your own and leaving me out of this?

[@vamppuppy6211]

@@winteroutside7014 seek help w that thinking

[@NicquiMadden]

@@vamppuppy6211 Absolutely!

[@carlotheatheistii546]

but in my country. if you are the rifle and gun dealership. we always remind our costumers. we are not responsible. if you use this fire arms on evil deeds. you got your fire arms license. they day we know you use it to kill innocent people. we are ready to sue you. For using this weapon against innocent peoples.

[@lukematthews5260]

@@winteroutside7014 U are crazy

[@Angelg229]

That’s like handing someone a pencil so they can write with it, but then they write threats to someone. And then they blame you. Please, I hope no one starts blaming all of this on him.

[@lavendergal2508]

Nicolas should be forced to pay attention at every moment. He should not be able to look down for these extended periods of time, cover his ears or act in avoidant manner. He must be forced to look up and be engaged and is on trial for this to be moral and ethical. He makes me sick. He’s a sociopath but I do not believe that he hears voices or whatever else he’s claiming. He fully knew what he was doing

[@moniquexavier8816]

I know, he’s trying to look small, childlike. To gain sympathy from the jury. I hope they see through it. And see him for the monster he is. I hope he fries.

[@Maxcat22]

Agreed! Let everyone see his pathetic face Let him see the pain he has caused

[@barbarapearce9738]

He's an evil coward thats why.

[@johannyguillen4004]

Unfortunately is too late for him ! He feel the guilty conscious!

[@uzibitch1]

He should be in a strait jacket in one of those restraint chairs with his head and arms held in place for the entirety of the trial.

[@brennvmckennv]

A man losing his income for his life and own family Over this is so sad. I feel just as bad for him as anyone else. The guilt he lives w is unimaginable and it’s all over his face, showing he’s a good person :/

[@Shyolite]

🤣🤣😂😂😃😃

[@092woo8]

I feel so bad for this man, you can tell he feels guilty even though it’s not his fault

[@TimeToGoo]

Every customer is engaged in conversation we look for red flags if anybody felt uncomfortable about the sale the sale wouldn't happen. It completely not his fault

[@idontcareaboutyouropinion8494]

Kinda is tho lmfao .

[@idontcareaboutyouropinion8494]

@@TimeToGoo Or something more realistic, you gun nuts just let everyone have a gun lol

[@TimeToGoo]

@@idontcareaboutyouropinion8494 people just saying the same sht to get likes I wonder I how it feel

[@camronrapp4146]

@@idontcareaboutyouropinion8494 Bro your brain doesn't work apparently

[@jordancourse5102]

I don’t blame the store owner. He sold the weapon legally. Therefore he’s not at fault.

[@greenlawnfarm5827]

And they should not call it a high power rifle when it is about the lowest power rifle available.

[@jorged4916]

@@greenlawnfarm5827 I’ve just given up with these media outlets smh

[@yawningpheonix]

@@greenlawnfarm5827 Don't let their technical ignorance overshadow the point they are making. When they use words like "weapon of war" and "assault magazine" I grant you they are going for an emotional appeal. But I'm hoping we can eventually get past the hair-splitting and just accept that a gun is a gun and unless it's a muzzleloader, a trained hand can kill a lot of people with any firearm, and so we need to look at all firearms equally when we finally decide what to do.

[@greenlawnfarm5827]

@@yawningpheonix Yes. They should shift the blame away from guns and accept there are crazy people who we can't keep locked up because it is inhumane. So maybe securing the schools is the best thing if we care so much about the children.

[@DanPlayingGames]

Yeah, blame the society that makes these guns accessible to people like Cruz

[@lkanzenbach]

I feel bad for him not knowing that he sold a gun to someone that used it in such an evil and brutal way.

[@hus390]

Not any gun. But these type of weapons. Well, it was his fault, to a degree. That's why he's sad. If he sold him a knife/hammer, and Cruz stabbed/smashed people, I will say he's without liability. Knifes and hammers can be used in a lot of useful ways. But he sold him a very dangerous weapon (tactical semi-auto long rifle with high capacity) with no need for it whatsoever. If Cruz wanted a gun for personal protection, should sold him a hand gun.

[@ashleymadison9380]

Do you feel bad for car salesman who sell cars to drunk drivers who crash and kill someone?

[@AtonalApple]

@@ashleymadison9380 Well normally car salesman don’t have to get up on the stand and testify. It’s sad because this man is being confronted with the horrible acts that were done with the firearm he sold. You can tell it’s affected him.

[@topsyturvyy4558]

@@ashleymadison9380 I think it is a different situation. I totally agree, drunk drivers are irresponsible people but this shooting is a deliberate and calculated action to kill as many people as you can because you hate them or who knows what. We all had our "enemies" in school but that didn't mean we wanted to shoot them all.

[@aubreyleshae523]

@@ashleymadison9380 I feel bad for anyone myself that's somehow tied to criminal act or negligent act that leads to a tragedy. I know ppl personally that carry a lot of guilt for someone else's actions. I've been one tbh. It took yrs of therapy to understand my actions wouldn't have changed the outcome. Many of these ppl are just trying to feed their families & doing their job. But they have souls, emotions, empathy, compassion, & feelings too.

[@seagulls566]

I hope this man has people around him telling him this is not his fault he done everything legit he was doing his job exactly how it should be done, its the people that make the laws and don't update them that should feel guilty

[@D-Ross86]

Exactly. He looked so sad. And to have the rifle that killed those people sitting right in front of his face while being questioned. Poor guy. I read somewhere that he sold his gun store because of the mass shooting.

[@TheFlyingZulu]

The only person that should feel guilty is the sick, demented piece of sh*t person that shot up the school who I hope gets the death penalty for what he did... There's nothing wrong with the laws, the guns or the people selling the guns. If anything the politicians trying to take away our 2A rights are the ones that should feel guilty for violating the constitution.

[@hus390]

@@D-Ross86 Why sell that weapon to anyone that age? A hunting rifle? Maybe!!... This assault weapon? No need for it.

[@hus390]

Well, it was his fault, to a degree. If he sold him a knife, and Cruz stabbed people, I will say he's without liability. But he sold him a very dangerous weapon (tactical semi-auto long rifle with high capacity) with no need for it whatsoever. If Cruz wanted a gun for personal protection, should sold him a hand gun.

[@Meatrocket69]

@@hus390 because its legal

[@TanyaLeonova]

Michael, you’re a well deserving human!!! You are NOT at fault, never will be!! You were doing your job, just like ANYONE else would have been! You are smart and know your truth, god bless you!!! Love from New Zealand x 😩❤️

[@juliocortazar8143]

And when his job is selling the products of powerful gun manufacturers, certaintly theres no fault.

[@TanyaLeonova]

@@juliocortazar8143 k

[@juliocortazar8143]

@@TanyaLeonova yw

[@jimannothe]

@@TanyaLeonova l

[@jessefowler2733]

OKay, russian lady. He SHOULD feel guilty. He is in the business of murder.

[@straycatttt2766]

He bought it in February 2017, not February 2018 (not “days before massacre”). He bought it at the minimum age 18. He was 19 when he did this crime in 2018. The caption of this video should be edited.

[@MrPaxio]

but how will the democrats push their narrative now?

[@Khaatana]

Thank you for highlighting this. I was thinking "hold on, this was back in 2017." It was 1 year and 3 days before the actual murders happened.

[@TheHeavensFellen]

Whoa, sorry dude, its that we had uvalde on the mind.

[@TheHeavensFellen]

see, this proves it was premeditated, just days before. Not even the correct calendar year. this whole case is quite a sick joke.

[@TN-re9zw]

Poor man looked so sad and uncomfortable with the murder weapon plonked in his face 😔 he didn’t want to look at it .

[@lisboay8086]

oh no the thing i make loads of money selling that’s primary purpose is to kill people was used to kill a bunch of people! how could i have seen this coming!

[@loganwiebe8834]

You two totally missed his point

[@jake51515]

@@loganwiebe8834 they always will. Its the fact that a good intention to sell to law abiding citizens turned out a monster is one of the sales. Id be disgusted and sad as well. Ive worked in gun stores and met PLENTY of people who should not even touch a weapon let alone a gun.

[@markbrouk7857]

Sounds like the government has shitty background checks to me but seems everyone wants to blame the guns.

[@DaftDucktool]

@GapYear Yes because everyone that comes into his store to buy a firearm uses it for a mass murder…get a grip

[@katiew4922]

My heart truly goes out to him. He had no idea of the evil that customer had inside of him that day. He did what he was supposed to do, and no one can fault him for that. You can see the hurt and sadness in his eyes. You can tell this is extremely uncomfortable for him, but what speaks volumes is he showed up and testified. I hope he finds peace and does not beat himself up over something he had no knowledge of or control of long term. He was just doing his job and he’s had to suffer after all of this as well. 🥺😔

[@saulgster]

Imagine being that close to the rifle that was held by a mass shooter responsible for taking 17 lives. I feel bad for this guy. He looks so uncomfortable.

[@katiem6773]

This man must feel terrible for selling this gun to Cruz knowing now what Cruz did with it. Very hard to check on domestic violence and drug use. These are often not found in any background check.

[@lindac6919]

Right? That gun seller might have drug use and domestic violence in his background, for all we know.

[@ayaye1918]

they don't care

[@prettynormalguy3169]

That’s a lie. DV and reported drug use are found on Brady background checks. The government failing to report these incidents is different than the checks not catching them. Research first. Opinion second.

[@TheFlyingZulu]

Why would he feel terrible for that? It would be the same as if somebody sold a hammer from a hardware store and this guy bashed in people's heads with the hammer. The gun is just the same as the hammer and it's the person that dictates what is done with such tools.

[@Vegan_scorpioo]

Why would he feel terrible he just did his own job... The real person who needs to feel terrible is the one who doesn't get the background checking seriously

[@lumpylumpy3931]

A gun is only as good or as bad as the man behind it.

[@barbarapearce9738]

How obvious!

[@brian-vz5hz]

It's sad how obvious that statement is and sad how many people do not understand it. A large amount of people on this thread.

[@celestrio]

I have to agree with most comments here on the gun seller, Michael, if I got his name right, is not at fault. I too agree that he did what has to be done to filter out those who shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. There's no way he can predict the future nor can control anyone before and after someone walks into his store. Same for the lady who drove Nikolas to the school. These people could've been any of us whether be you walking past him on the sidewalk or had once invited him over to your home to eat with your family. The fault falls on Nikolas and him alone.

[@jenniferweller1560]

Well said.

[@beardly0121]

It wasn't the gun, it was Nikolas Cruz. Evil is definitely real in this world sadly.

[@hankbonner9718]

Yep I hope he goes on offense and sues the hell outta the ppl that are putting him through this.

[@EternaIWait]

This is a good person you can tell he's traumatized by what happened, he had no control over it. I hope people don't blame him.

[@claucemicro1080]

It must have been really hard to testify about doing something that somehow facilitated a mass killing in front of the families of the victims. I hope this man went or is going to therapy.

[@juliocortazar8143]

Yep, and hopefully after therapy he can be back in the business of selling weapons that ARE USED TO KILL PEOPLE.

[@matthewbarry7026]

@@juliocortazar8143 Crawl back into your safe space

[@TheCforet]

@@juliocortazar8143 ? Why would you want that to happen is the real question?

[@berkpwn]

Lmao assuming way too much about this mans life just because it would be hard for you, kinda cringe

[@juliocortazar8143]

@@TheCforet The real question is do you know what sarcasm is....

[@barbarapearce9738]

It must be horrifying for families to see the gun that killed their children 😥

[@julietwhiskey7811]

I’m sure they were doing just fine before the inanimate object was brought out though, while the POS that pulled the trigger sat in full view of them in the courtroom since the beginning of the trial…

[@commiesnzombies]

i was expecting it to jump up off the table and start mowing people down, bur it did'nt

[@Dunk1It1Hard]

So the implement is the actual trespasser here? Not the evil guy who chose to trample innocence. Yeah it doesn’t matter what the tool is, he had murder in his heart.

[@j.t.cooper2963]

You can't blame the store or person that sold the weapon. Please don't vilify law abiding gun owners or in this case the shop owner.

[@sherrye.8260]

No, but blame our laws, no one outside of combat should be allowed to own a high-powered rifle or semi-automatic something that has that much power to kill and maim so many people in a few seconds time. Many of us are not against owning guns but we need to take these type of combat weapons away from anybody that isn't military. Certainly no one under the age of 21 should have had access to one.

[@j.t.cooper2963]

@@sherrye.8260 Guns don't kill. People do. A gun can't shoot anything without a human pulling the trigger. Stop blaming the guns instead of the person who pulled the trigger, you uneducated moron.

[@R_K_S2401]

@@sherrye.8260 How do you define a "high powered rifle"? What does that even mean?

[@IvanIvanoIvanovich]

@@sherrye.8260 Not to take away from what happened here, but the firearm in question is neither a military weapon nor high powered in a ballistic sense. Most bolt-action hunting rifles fire a larger projectile with more powder behind it. Additionally, cosmetic features that give a militaristic appearance don't necessarily equate to this firearm being a military weapon. I think most peoples' hearts are in the right place, and who wouldn't after what happened? But there is a lot of mis-information floating around on both sides of the debate.

[@PePe_Paragon]

@@sherrye.8260 a 12 gauge could've done just as much damage. Stop attacking the tools, I do agree with the age limit though

[@charlescastle4533]

They didn't need to call this guy to the stand just to drag his name through the mud and ruin his livelihood. Where he purchased the gun is irrelevant so long as it was purchased legally (as it was).

[@purplesunrise1]

That poor man. I hope he finds peace in his heart.

[@RIPToNateDoggIHadToRegulate]

Who? Nikolas?

[@northerncowpoke7020]

@@RIPToNateDoggIHadToRegulate no the guy on the stand…

[@juliocortazar8143]

For what? Do you hope he gets back in the business of selling WEAPONS THAT ARE USED TO KILL PEOPLE??

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@juliocortazar8143 this

[@juliocortazar8143]

@@wholethedogsout880 that

[@adventureswithfrodo2721]

The Defense attorney was trying to grasp on to something to put the blame on the gun seller but he could not.

[@JackJackson1133]

It felt like it, his questions were just pointless.

[@cuztm1500]

Yeah last person to go after is the gun seller he was just doing his job. Sold the most basic of guns. That’s like the cheapest AR in most gun stores.

[@americanpurge]

Just a waste of time. The dude just handed in the form. Bring in the guys that cleared the form itself if you're going to corner this guy.

[@smokecreekstudio7320]

agreed gun shop employees do not give go or no go choice on checks. thats the state and FBI

[@holly4371]

I totally agree with this. You can tick whatever you want. I’m from the UK so I won’t even pretend that I know about or understand US laws or rules but this has to change somewhere. So much love to the families and the victims. ❤️

[@damienvera3135]

@@holly4371 it does not have to change, he passed a federal background check. Just because this guy did something terrible doesn’t mean everyone has to be punished.

[@JohnHilman1968]

There isn't a single gun capable of killing a single person without a shooter! Looking to blame the gun in any shooting is like blaming the car when a drunk kills a family.

[@brian-vz5hz]

The lack of knowledge and laws of firearms on this thread is ridiculous. Please don't comment if you don't have a clue. Thank you.

[@nickodemusjohnson]

Welcome to "S.o.c.i.a.l. media" where it grants Everyone's option and input (engagement). One could definitely say the same for you to stop rebounding their comments🤔

[@brian-vz5hz]

Wow you're clever. Only if I watch a video on here and I'm completely clueless on a certain subject matter on it, then I keep my mouth shut and comments to myself. Just saying.

[@jeanettesmith765]

@@brian-vz5hz People just need to quit acting like they are the authority on a subject.

[@asherhouseman6838]

Nikolas elaborately customizes his rifle, has a lengthy rational conversation with the Uber driver who brought him to the school, after the shooting he goes to fast food places and talks clamly with friends, talks about going to college to another student while in line waiting to exit the school, etc, etc, -this does not sound like a guy who is struggling too badly with voices and demons in his head.

[@devdr8983]

he is fake and gonna get de.. a-t h penalty for it

[@tylernicoll6911]

while I agree, "elaborate customization" is a bit of a stretch for the rifle you see in this video

[@snivesz32]

Any and all aspects of the firearm don’t matter. The blame falls on the person doing the crime, not on the tool used.

[@840swed840]

he put a bipod and a foregrip on it. he didn't even have a red dot or a flashlight. you're framing it like he put an auto sear in it

[@davidacosta9158]

@@snivesz32 the tool facilitates the crime

[@leo_zero1879]

This is just heartbreak on top of heartbreak with this case. His face says everything he’s feeling. The pain and chaos that pos caused is mind boggling. It’s literally incomprehensible what he did

[@Theyralltakenfu]

No one absolutely NO ONE would do anything different then this gun shop owner. BUT, of course you have those who think they would have done different. No you wouldn't. Not one person on this planet would have any idea what was in that guys mind at the time. Unless you have a Heavenly Messenger appear and tell you this sale shouldn't go through, it's going to be sold. I feel bad this guy lost his business because people feel differently, but people judged him and he lost it all. I guess that's ok because it wasn't you. 😐

[@deeznutz3663]

Not sure why people think or even congress thinks gun shops just don’t do background checks before people buy guns…the 4473 is a ATF federal form that requires a background check number to verify eligibility for purchasing a firearm

[@BanellaRg]

They did a nice job in this case

[@jewishgirl1581]

They don't follow through with it that's why

[@dawn5227]

It's obvious the laws around eligibility needs to change. What legitimate reason does a highschool/college student have for owning a gun? I'm struggling to come up with a reason? Or amend the constitution, it's outdated by 200 years. Only government have the power to make the changes needed. I dont blame the legitimate firearms sales persons for the endemic mass shootings in the US, its the appalling regulations that allow it to happen repeatedly.

[@deeznutz3663]

@@dawn5227 everyone should have the inherent right to protect themselves. In California you have to be 21 to buy a rifle or a handgun. There’s more guns then people in the US, if the government could ban manufacturers from making guns tomorrow, it wouldnt change gun violence it would probably make it worse.

[@damienvera3135]

@@jewishgirl1581 then there FFL will be revoked, you literally have to complete a background check every single gun sale, the ATF does visits to check FFL records . They went though a background check in this case.

[@davidgodoy4685]

Where did this kid even get the money to buy a rifle?? The determination that this psychopath had is beyond me. He was DETERMINED to kill people.

[@TaroTimes]

Mother's estate I believe. It's also not that expensive. Any adult can work a month in Florida and afford one.

[@memez304]

It's like $600

[@demonjmh]

This poor man... If you end up reading this somehow please dont guilt yourself theres no way you or anyone else who didn't know him personally could of known the type of person he is

[@carolyndee4565]

I don't understand why Cruz has so many lawyers. Why go through all of this when Cruz pleaded guilty??

[@jeanettesmith765]

If he is to get death, mitigating factors must be proven or disproven.

[@miguelavendano8818]

We need to ensure he has fair representation in order to prevent grounds for a mistrial and he walks free. It’s all for formality.

[@alexlo246]

I could feel his sadness at 15:50 when he had to show what mods were added

[@ramonf.9217]

I can see the pain in this man, may God comforts him.

[@LifesLessons100]

Ask him does he believe 18 yr olds should be able to buy AR 15s?

[@ramonf.9217]

@@LifesLessons100 I against young kids getting their hands on guns of any kind or caliber, but look at the army and the marines, them get kids trained to kill at 18. And he do not make the laws, Ask that to the congress, senate and all the lobbyists.

[@Acidburn3141]

It’s sad how they even had to bring this guy into the case

[@crabstick250]

I feel for this man. Linked to a horrible crime when he just was doing his job.

[@jameskellinger8314]

He hasn't been linked to a crime.

[@hicknopunk]

In the public eye he has.

[@jameskellinger8314]

@@hicknopunk "Linked to a crime" means you were a participant in the crime.

[@hankbonner9718]

He's not linked to a crime in reality. This is just the gun grabbers shotty efforts. If you could really be linked to a crime by a harmless object imagine the lawsuits from every walk of life. Yes guns are harmless, so are knives, you get them in the wrong hands and they turn into a deadly weapon. Less shotty useless efforts and more focus towards the real problem in this country and that is mental health.

[@dancs1]

I feel so bad for him. He must feel terrible to have no idea what that weapon was going to do.

[@lisboay8086]

it’s a gun this was always a possibility. don’t want to end up selling someone something they use to slaughter children??don’t sell semi automatics or don’t sell guns full stop 🤷‍♀️

[@aspannas]

@@primoenthusiast You cannot compare that to selling guns, the possibility is ALWAYS there. American gun laws are fkn insane, that people can just go and buy guns like this

[@jades5141]

It’s just assumed that he even feels guilt. He could be level headed about it. I

[@dancs1]

@@jades5141 I think he probably feels guilty, but he also did everything by the books. Nothing more he could have done other than using his own judgement. RIP those kids and their teachers.

[@HeartsOfDarkness]

@Retired Arthropod This one particular rifle was used in a nefarious way. What about the other 20 plus million of these style rifles currently in civilian hands? Seems if all were used for the purpose you stated, we would know about it.

[@GentiluomoStraniero]

First of all, an AR15 is not a high powered rifle. A high powered rifle is a rifle that uses a 308winchester round. The AR15 is an intermediate sized cartridge. Having said that, Nikolas Cruz should be been red flagged as a prohibited person by one of the responding agencies dealing with his mental health issues. So many failures by so many and no one is taking responsibility.

[@wendysbaconator1175]

He’s not responsible in anyway for this shooting. The only person who bares ANY responsibility is Nicholas Cruz.

[@MrPaxio]

you say that and everyone agrees, but the man is sitting infront of the judge and has to explain himself. guilty until proven innocent it smells like

[@chrisbuemi7430]

Guy deserves to suffer for what he did. But to the real point calling it a high powered customized rifle. Its one of the cheapest AR's you can buy and the foregrip is the only attachment on that gun that did any help. You people are sick for titling this the way you did, shows your lack of gun knowledge. Also this guy testifying what came on the gun also has no clue he forgot to leave out the fact the handguard doesn't come on it.

[@840swed840]

exactly. literally every single person who owns an AR 15 puts a foregrip on it. he didn't even have a red dot or weapon light. theyre framing it like he threw an auto sear in it

[@840swed840]

@@Psyminds exactly. having a STANDARD 30 round magazine to defend yourself is essential. why would you want to defend yourself with a 6 shot revolver against possibly more than 6 home invaders? if I'm defending myself, I want the best tool possible. not a completely useless single shot firearm.

[@840swed840]

@@Psyminds real life isn't like the movies. people who are on certain drugs don't just instantly fall down after one shot. why would I want to limit myself to useless laws that criminals can easily bypass?

[@Angieboy173]

What did he do?

[@Im-Not-Gay-No-More]

@@Psyminds That is the stupidest comparison you could of made up. Tell me you have no firearms but every magazine while putting your pants back on. How the hell do you leave the house without guidance and a helmet? The windows you lick have lead paint on them. Do you have any awards??

[@hi-il7ug]

If you sell a car, and that person drives and kills someone, is it the fault of the person who sold it? If you sell a knife and the person uses it for murder, is it the fault of the person who sold it? No. This man is not the one to blame.

[@gigadude6951]

Facts

[@DeeDee-wb6zy]

my heart breaks for the victims; I will never understand what would possess someone to do something like this

[@ShastaBean]

You would perhaps if you read the list of possible side-effects...they are spelled out right there on wikipedia. Does emotional-blunting, violence, suicyde sound like some things that could make a person capable of something they normally otherwise perhaps wouldn't be?

[@ShastaBean]

They go by the name: S_S_R_I

[@lesleyrussell8200]

¿maybe why the people are who make posible that we have to do what the goverment says what we have to do and be.......?

[@Jeremy_the_bot]

Easy. He was bullied in school.

[@almaadams3631]

@@ShastaBean How advanced has the MK ULTRA program become over the last 50 years. Select the candidate by way of his internet activity. Groom the candidate with the right drugs that open them to suggestions and pump the brainwash mantra right through their computer screens. Charles Manson was subject to the early MK ULTRA trials.

[@emilehobo]

It’s horrible to see how this man became a victim also. When the people that are supposed to administer the system of law by carrying out background checks somewhere down the line mess up, not looking into everything properly, or not administrating the fact that he shouldn’t be able to get a firearm at the time of certain events that would prohibit him from getting a firearm, at some point you have to conclude that when people that administer the system don’t at all time do that, you really have no system at all.

[@duh9605]

True

[@duh9605]

But at the same time he should have not thought of shooting at people to begin with people that are innocent I mean you can go shoot at Satanist and a cold people and pedophiles and Rich pedophiles but not innocent people not people who are doing good or striving to get through this system

[@emilehobo]

@@duh9605 I don’t want people to go out and hunt for themselves. I want people to apply the democratically elected system of law including the democracy systematically so situations like that can’t arise and you have a system. People do need firearms to defend their homes, but you don’t want bullets to be the law.

[@SaturnsSnack]

Was there something that could have prevented NC from getting the gun? It seemed that he had passed all the hurtles of that state and lawfully had the gun, where did the "mess up" happen?

[@emilehobo]

@@SaturnsSnack I don’t have access to any files, especially not from where I live. You would have to check not just his criminal and medical records, also the contact moments of anyone contacting authorities on problems that they mean to report on him. Check what his own and adoptive parents reported and how it was handled. Check what his school teachers reported and how it was handled. Check everything and anyone that noted even just a possible red flag and the people that consequently ignored these contact moments, telling people that it wasn’t that bad, not true, etc. Someone somewhere along the line said everything would turn out fine, even though it wouldn’t. How did this happen? And how did they manage to put off others that would normally step forward and act, meaning that they now didn’t? What hurdles did either police officers, jurors, teachers, parents, or healthcare professionals introduce to prevent proper help and law be administered?

[@VesperShadows]

The gun was bought a year before the shooting, not days before, the title is wrong

[@kerrybaral9241]

We will never have end to this tragedy Until our family and relatives intervene. Please watch your kids, daughters and sons and any family member if they are acting weird

[@BigTomInTheBasement]

That isn't a solution either. It's better and easier to stop this kind of violence by allowing adults in schools to protect themselves and the children in their care.

[@MrPaxio]

yup, when they need a separate hearing and all this malarchy, tax payer money and time being used up and for what? so we can read his youtube comments? like you realize this guy shot up a school, what further evidence do you need? did we really need to waste everyones time who interacted with him to hear their side of the story, like it literally doesnt matter or add anything, hearsay you could say. what, theyre gonna give him two life sentences instead of one? because thats helpful i bet. hes more so enjoying the fact him and his crimes are being paraded around like its a celebration.

[@jonathandevereaux298]

Cruz had nobody to watch him and other students bullied him. Unfortunately your kids won't admit to bullying.

[@miguelavendano8818]

@@BigTomInTheBasement that’s stupid.

[@fuzzymalaga2050]

@@BigTomInTheBasement when you won’t shut up in class so your teacher pulls a glock on you

[@danoa8859]

I just can’t fathom for any amount of money a lawyer would want to defend such a horrific criminal. Blows my mind.

[@truthbetold1855]

You don't have to want to, it's a duty if you believe in justice at all.

[@TheHeavensFellen]

its court appointed attorneys. he had longhair howard finkelstein of broward county previously

[@ceilinggang2181]

Can we all just agree that this man is not guilty of anything he just sold a firearm to the wrong person horrible person

[@rjj3738]

Selling a kid a weapon like that just beggars belief

[@jeanettesmith765]

He was not a kid.

[@rjj3738]

@@jeanettesmith765 do you really want to split hairs over his age?! He was 18/19…a teenager, a young adult, a boy not even legally allowed to buy alcohol. Selling a weapon like to anyone is absurd

[@caligrownvisuals6717]

That man clearly doesn’t want to touch that gun. It’s obvious since he changed careers. I get why the prosecutor put it in front of him but for so many reasons, put on some fckn gloves.

[@jamiemcdonald4279]

.223 is actually a small caliber. It's essentially just a long 22

[@johnogrady2418]

As tedious as this may be it is a very valuable resource for learning how to fill out the form ahead of time. This is an information-rich vein of knowledge. And Thank You to LiveNow!!!

[@WandaBrown54]

I can’t imagine the guilt he feels 😕

[@VictorGarcia-vw7nq]

Why should he feel guilty?

[@WandaBrown54]

@@VictorGarcia-vw7nq he shouldn’t, that’s why i feel bad for him

[@bunnyboops8875]

@@VictorGarcia-vw7nq because he sold something that destructive to an effing teenager. He could've said no as he mentioned he did to others.

[@hus390]

@@bunnyboops8875 Well, it was his fault, to a degree. That's why he's sad. If he sold him a knife/hammer, and Cruz stabbed/smashed people, I will say he's without liability. Knifes and hammers can be used in a lot of useful ways. But he sold him a very dangerous weapon (tactical semi-auto long rifle with high capacity) with no need for it whatsoever. If Cruz wanted a gun for personal protection, should sold him a hand gun.

[@hus390]

@@WandaBrown54 Well, it was his fault, to a degree. That's why he's sad. If he sold him a knife/hammer, and Cruz stabbed/smashed people, I will say he's without liability. Knifes and hammers can be used in a lot of useful ways. But he sold him a very dangerous weapon (tactical semi-auto long rifle with high capacity) with no need for it whatsoever. If Cruz wanted a gun for personal protection, should sold him a hand gun.

[@samrivera4736]

Kinda messed up they put the murder weapon right in front of the poor guy a picture or slideshow couldn’t suffice?

[@carlloud1187]

Yeah, that must have been pretty brutal for the poor guy

[@Mike-gt1cs]

It's all a big show, to blame everyone but the killer

[@stevenp.sparks2953]

THIS is why trials take months and years to complete. This was the most stretched out waste of time by an attorney that I've ever seen......smdh

[@caldaque7354]

Even though he followed the law, did what he was supposed to do, and was given the go-ahead by government agencies that are required to monitor these transaction; you can tell he has remorse over having sold a weapon that did such great harm. I hope people understand that he is not someone to be blamed.

[@sherrytrimper3536]

Maybe they should implement a video statement from each customer re reason for purchase of weapon

[@CoquiAudio]

I carry one in my two deployments, is sad to see a negligent use of that weapon to do harm to innocent people

[@alexpoore8140]

Ar-15's are not used in the military the AR-15 came out for civilian use and then the military adopted it and made changes too it, if you where deployed you would've known this plus Ar-15's don't have selective fire like the M4A1 that you used in deployment.

[@CoquiAudio]

​@@alexpoore8140 you are wrong, the AR-15 was already used on the Military in the Vietnam War from 1962 to 1963 it comes from the design AR-10 I used in basic training the M16 Fort Benning Gergia

[@alexpoore8140]

@@CoquiAudio the atf had gotten upset that you could drop in a m16 fire control group in the semi auto version and they made colt change that. I'm still waiting for evidence that the AR-15 is a military "assualt weapon" because you've never actually used one on the battlefield just an M16 the Armalite AR-15 was adopted by the Secretary of Defense as the 5.56mm M16 rifle.

[@Mike-gt1cs]

@@CoquiAudio Sorry, the AR-15 (semi-automatic) has never been used by the US military. The M-16 and all subsequent variants (fully automatic, or 3-round burst) have been the rifle and carbine used by the US military.

[@tiffanyholman4028]

This man has probably gone through his conversation with him a million times to see if he missed anything. I can't imagine how much guilt he feels, whether anyone thinks he should or not.

[@CSAccetura]

He is in no way responsible for the choices that kid made. Any attempts to blame him just show your idiocy

[@nottag8896]

Former gun shop employee. You do not need to input social for the background check as age, DOB, DL#, city of birth, etc is plenty of info to find the exact person in the federal database. Having a social may help your background check come back faster though.

[@aliceakosota797]

Used to be 10 min now i been waiting for hours xX

[@nottag8896]

@@aliceakosota797 some are instant some take a lot of time. Brady law is very interesting as well.

[@Dan-qn3su]

As someone that has been through many delays and denied many times falsely, giving your social can help keep false denial from happening

[@nikopalmer6471]

@@nottag8896 I think it depends on the state. It takes a few months where I live. And this was in the early 2000s, I don't know the wait time nowadays

[@TonyMontana-mv9ez]

Did you know background check takes mins but they still have to hold it for I think 5 days if you don't have your CCW? I'm in Florida every state is different. Like in Texas as long you have the money you can buy it

[@penelop96]

What’s with the stupid fixation on marijuana? Smoking weed doesn’t make you want to go out and shoot people; in fact it’s quite the opposite.

[@papichulo1577]

Because when you buy a firearm, it asks if you are a user of an illegal narcotic on the form. The defendant here was a regular user of marijuana, which means he lied on the form, and that’s a felony

[@ryanrollins2368]

You lost me at "customized high power". It's a cheap 5.56 M&P. LMAO

[@manisteeresearcharchives606]

"puts fore grip on" "so as you can see this weapon has been customized to be even more deadly"

[@narcissist31]

SO a background check does not include the person giving their social security number? How is that a background check? Seems to me this form is working on people being truthful, and we all know you can't treat people like that. People will lie to get what they want.

[@fox1actual]

Although people don’t necessarily have to give their SSN. They do have profiles on everyone. They cross reference your name with your address and other factors. Also, it’s against the law to make lists of what people have, that’s why it’s a gray area. The idea is that the government shouldn’t be able to know what you have because they would be the ones who would confiscate your firearms. And we all know that governments love power and abuse it.

[@littlemissprickles]

I'm not really trying to defend the form, as I'm sure it's not as in-depth as it should be, but how is self-reporting SSN not reliant on honesty? Isn't identity theft a thing?

[@prettynormalguy3169]

Ya. You should probably figure out how these background checks actually work before giving your ignorant opinion….

[@BNatoAk]

SS#'s are optional but regardless the background is going to know who are and if there is any speculation, you will be delayed and possibly denied for purchase. SMH, ignorance brought to this reply.

[@warrenrosen2326]

How does a ss no. ensure honesty? Don't project your deceitfulness on everyone.

[@christinegonzales6788]

Hard to hear my heart wants to burst for the family members God bless

[@paynej32013]

"high powered rifle". That's why nobody cares what the media says anymore.

[@jonesboy2527]

He looks like his conscious is eating him alive... It's not ur fault my brudda... Prayers 2 u and all the victims and their families🙏🏾

[@Blue29.5s]

Am I missing something or didnt he buy that gun underage? This happened in 2017-2018 he was still in highschool

[@jd-yo2is]

he was 19 and already graduated

[@prorangerr]

no it was 18 back then to buy a rifle he's 23 now so he was I believe 18-19 back then

[@ronschannel5409]

He graduated from that High School the previous year.

[@BoyMama87]

The form said he bought the gun 2-11-17 right? The shooting was 2-14-18… so the title is a year off. It wasn’t days before. He had this freaking gun for a whole year to practice with first!

[@ekuhns864]

I believe it says it was customized days before

[@blastednacid]

He looks so sullen..like he’s lost sleep over this..I feel so bad and hope he’s okay

[@lovegreenculture2851]

The look on his face sitting in front of that rifle, he feels so guilty I want to hug him and tell him it's not on him.

[@lolthatstough1301]

You're such a gentle young man.

[@oespectre6384]

What do the attachments have to do with anything? High powered??? It's a little bigger than an .22

[@petedavidson6931]

Marky Mark Walberg was in the sniper movie he took out a can of Dinky More dog food with his 50 cal from I don’t recall the distance but in the movie takes out a bad guy with a little.22 accessorized with a plastic coke bottle as a silencer...from across the lake.....just goes to show ya.... simplicity!

[@hus390]

It shows the degree of his intent.

[@wildshinyumbreon]

@@Psyminds yeah keep copy pasting this idiotic comment everywhere you baiter.

[@officerfoxtrot3633]

Customized? A sling is basic on pretty much every gun. You’ll find more vertical grips or slanted grips on ar’s than not. And bipods are just meant for stabilizing when shooting from a bench or sitting down. That’s a pretty loaded statement. I was expecting an upgraded trigger, muzzle devices, etc.

[@jessebrown4755]

Yea not very (customized) at all

[@lilb275]

I mean I get ya but he essentially still customized it

[@officerfoxtrot3633]

@@lilb275 I mean, it’s like saying someone “customized” their car by adding a bumper sticker and using decorative valve stem caps.

[@lilb275]

@@officerfoxtrot3633 Well that is true I just hope this POS rots in Solitary confinement and that they won't make this abt the AR-15

[@UTP_ENT]

Imagine going back to Nissan and bringing the salesman to court because your kid got ran over by an Altima

[@Grace4_All]

They need to hire a sound technician. That awful ringing after every word has to be driving the jury out of there minds.

[@nolanzm]

Is it just me or does Cruz’s handwriting also look crazy?

[@garylawrence7547]

Imagine showing the murder weapon in front of family members.

[@IHWKR]

I hope none of the affected families don't resent this store and the people who work there. I can only think this incident caused these families to abhore firearms. The stark reality is the very thing that took their children's lives is the only thing that could have prevented the loss in the first place. This is why gun-free zones are unsafe. A person that wants will go to great lengths to accomplish their goals no matter what it is. And a gun-free country will only lead to law abiding civilians defenseless against criminals. Just like criminals aquire contraband like drugs, human trafficking, and everything else that's illegal. Guns are here to stay whether legal or not, the only difference is who's able to readily use them.

[@warrenrosen2326]

Hey Fox, that is NOT customized. It's accessorized. FJB

[@chickenstripsnbbqsauce659]

Thats not customized. Sling and a vertical grip and bipod are add-ons for sure, and i guess you can say that is customization. But to me customized can be a fitted scope, tactical optics, some sort of paint scheme , barrel changes or flash suppressor or silencer. this is a high velocity low caliber rifle system equivalent to a 22 bullet from a handgun elongated for more powder charge and distance shots. Its not an assault rifle its a rifle PERIOD. I owned 3 of those before and not one was ever used to harm anyone. few deer and some paper may argue that , but whatever. This man sold a weapon too a person who passed the background check who shouldn't have. Thats state and database faults . He shouldn't have ever gotten his hands on a potato gun let alone this rifle. Sadly cannot disqualify someone cause they look like a loser which he always has . This person is on trial cause of what was in his heart and mind not what was in his hands.

[@petedavidson6931]

It’s a stock AR-15...it’s been “ accessorized “ with items stocked on the walls or storeroom shelves....Customized could include CQB ( close quarters combat ) shortened barrel, muzzle flash suppressor, aftermarket action components. Nothing special here folks! There was no research done, so in essence it’s a cheap rifle with cheap add on’s...

[@TheFlyingZulu]

Very well said and I completely agree with you 100%.

[@glock316]

Anything altered from its original form is considered modified.

[@2tired2sleep2]

“If he’s white he’s all right” - ppl doing the background check probably

[@Shane.Dennnis]

The first time I shot one of these guns I started laughing. I was shocked at the size of it and the size of the rounds. I even said out loud wow you would never use this thing in the military it’s like a toy. It’s wild how the media makes them out to be “high powered rifles”

[@NVboy7636]

That's not a high-powered rifle. It's just a rifle.

[@jeanettesmith765]

The jury will get it.

[@ewaja362]

He probably feels guilty but if he didn’t sold the gun to him, someone else would’ve.

[@VesperShadows]

Exactly. It's common sense, this guy as a seller did nothing wrong.

[@sqr2024]

Incorrect this “was not” a high power firearm so please get the facts correct.

[@mirabPL]

@@Psyminds miliseconds? on semi auto gun? pretty interesting take

[@NYRM1974]

I can only imagine what is going through this gun dealer's mind I can see it in his expression and I feel for him I really do. But this gun dealer should not have any liability weighed against him for he did nothing wrong he followed procedure he followed the letter of the law and he even check for any concerns or red flags as any responsible gun dealer would. The culprit involved in this act of tragedy already admitted doing it and that's where it should be put at the foot of the Criminal. This gun dealer should be absolved of any wrongdoing and should continue doing whatever it is he wants to do whether it be sell firearms or do something else it's entirely his choice but leave him alone. If anything I would focus on the criminal himself how did he get the money to buy the firearm who gave him the money how did he acquire the money did the parents know anything that would have been out of the ordinary? Did the parents live in denial? These are the questions that need to be addressed

[@tiffanyholman4028]

The parents were dead, the adoptive mother had recently died before this too. His bio mom is not in the picture and has a lengthy criminal record. That's how he had the money and no oversight.

[@NYRM1974]

@@tiffanyholman4028 Interesting to say the least.

[@robreadinger5340]

You can tell the gun is in his nightmares and it's gut wretching that he probably feels the guilt and has to also suffer, along with all the families. Kids need guidance more than ever these days.

[@Nosferopathy]

He seems like a nice man. I hope he’s doing okay. It has to be hard to deal with what happened. It really isn’t his fault. Edit: I was just making a statement on how I feel bad for this man having to be tied into this case. And even though it isn’t his fault, most people would feel some guilt anyway. It was not an invitation for people to argue about how they view him. He is just a man who was doing his job, he is not at fault for what cruz did. Stop pointing blame at anyone but Cruz. Cruz is the one who decided to shoot up this school, the person who sold him the weapon did everything legal and did not know he would do this.

[@captricharddee3634]

" It really isn’t his fault'. You're correct, however it is the fault of The American Constitution, for allowing every Tom, Dick and Dirty Harry to carry a firearm. It's The 21st Century, not The Wild West.

[@RS7evenSLDR]

Why would he feel any guilt? He did nothing wrong. If Nik Cruz wasn’t an idiot this guy wouldn’t even be on the stand.

[@juliocortazar8143]

@@RS7evenSLDR Selling weapons and expecting that none of them are gonna be used to kill somebody is pretty idiotic.

[@RS7evenSLDR]

@@juliocortazar8143 this is like saying selling pharmaceutical drugs and expecting no one to abuse them is pretty idiotic. 🤷🏾‍♂️ who cares it’s the reality of the world we live in unfortunate as it may be.

[@01blaval]

@@RS7evenSLDR Parmaceutical drugs are made to cure people, what are firearms made to do?

[@bigyoshi4696]

That’s…. That’s not a high powered rifle…

[@TyTwoFly]

It really sucks for this guy sold that gun to this monster not knowing he was a monster. I’m still sick of this misinformation in the video title. A standard AR15, including the on he used, fired a necked up 22 caliber bullet. It is illegal to hunt with it in some states because its considered too weak to take down game.

[@madddog6790]

Yep...here in VA, you can't hunt deer, bear and elk with anything under .23.The term "high powered" has different meaning in different parts of the country. My Pennsyltucky side of the family uses it to mean center fire, that's all. That's how I grew up understanding it, based on that. Nothing really to do with power or caliber, just center fire.

[@FaZeredemption3]

@@madddog6790 pretty sure .308 isn't even considered high power...

[@pitchforkpeasant6219]

Military is going to 6.8. Plenty of veterans talked to me about shooting people 4-5 times and still not going down. Meant to be a varmint gun. A battle rifle is considered 30 cal and up. Yes people hunt with ak’s with heavier bullet. High powered considered anything above 22lr. According to gun ranges

[@mikeymike9926]

You won’t get a through and through clean shot with 556, they tumble so bad that the military classified wounds in Vietnam from the public. I figure they don’t want you aiming for a deers heart just to end up sending the bullet sideways out his ass

[@Dan-di9jd]

It's unfortunate to the owner but I'm sure some firearms came back from crimes. It's just the nature of things but you can only do so much before you have to say you can't really know what sort of customer is coming in that door.

[@MrPaxio]

and he shouldnt know, its not his job to make sure the gun grows up in a loving family. why is he in court testifying?

[@Dan-di9jd]

@@MrPaxio I guess to testify that the gun was modified after he left shop. He’s saying Cruz added accessories to the rifle and I suppose the idea they’re trying to say is that he planned it based on research and he wasn’t insane or under some sort of manic episode but rather he went through a detailed plan.

[@justinhimes4917]

Most pointless string of questions in court history

[@stuc3195]

What a horrendous situation for him to be in. If he sells a firearm legally, as per the laws etc. then there is no blame on him.

[@theguncouple]

The same carnage could be achieved with a simple semi auto hunting rifle. The AR15 is just a semi automatic rifle like most hunting rifles, it just looks exactly like the military M4A1 which is FULLY automatic but is only single shot. Ammo used for hunting are way larger and capable of much more destruction. The AR15 is not high powered

[@RyanSquires18]

@@Psyminds Good lord educate yourself please.

[@jeanettesmith765]

It did a lot of damage according to all those medical examiners.

[@theguncouple]

@@jeanettesmith765 which is what guns do

[@CasualWooks]

This guy was just doing his job. It's the fact that someone's evil intent caused such a horrible act, that this poor guy now has to live the way he does.

[@jlassonful]

doing his job - he sold a firearm to a 19 year old who had no need for such a weapon

[@CasualWooks]

@@jlassonful I know plenty of people even younger that can easily be trusted with a fire arm. This isn't an age matter, it's an intent and mental matter. Cruz is a scumbag that needs put out of everyone's misery.

[@jmh1101]

@@jlassonful You dont have the authority to tell any free person what they do or dont need.