Crank Type Identification

[@joshgardner8671]

0:22 (1) Self Extracting Crank System 1:15 (2) Two-Piece Cranks 3:35 (3) Three-Piece Cranks 5:49 (4) One-Piece Cranks Great video - thank you!

[@Quadflash]

Calvin, I've started rehabbing bikes at our local bike co-op. I had no idea how many different bikes and components there are. Your videos and your Big Blue book keep me productive and a whole lot less frustrated. Thanks for your straight and understandable instructions!!!

[@explorer8888]

David Sonnen What is a bike co-op? I’m not from the States and not familiar with the term?

[@chadkline4268]

A cooperative effort/business of some kind where several interests cooperate in some way.

[@bullballsallday]

​@enriqueamaya3883people like you actually repel people from Christianity.

[@budabead]

Another great video! thank you! I just got myself a pcs-9 and have a number a jobs lined up. i could do some of it but i gotta be honest... you're way to smooth at explaining things in simple terms and i just love your passion for it all - can tell you've been in this business for a while. park tool for the win:) love from the UK

[@calvinjonesfan6566]

Hi Calvin I am your biggest fan. Thank you so much for making this helpful video.

[@dontbothermeimjust12]

Best profile picture.

[@2ForceCycles]

Omg

[@Jordan-uz9me]

I know he probably hears it every day but you're his biggest fan You even have the underground shit he did with Skam

[@jeffreyvictor3678]

Very well explained! I like and am grateful that you supplied the link to the need video as you were explaining.

[@ConcreteJungle95]

Amazing video thanks. Very professional filming and explanations

[@jimtoneyNoBaloney]

Super helpful for my old Santa Cruz. Thank You!

[@tatangsm09]

It's really helpful from the above explanation. Thanks.

[@The_Mess85]

Oh for a universal ISO Standard, fortunately all my bikes have been Shimano 3 piece systems, so I should have the crank tool in my disorganised and incompletely collection of tools. And thanks, between you and Browns Cycles website, all the stuff we need to fix bikes is freely available.

[@MrIvanGino]

Best channel ever

[@brunobaumanis7869]

i am a noob at bikes and stuff and basically i want to put on a new crankset on my mtb bike and i guess i have a 3 piece one.. can i put on a 2 piece one on it? or are they not interchangable? btw i want to do this all by myself without the help of a bike shop.. for fun

[@parktool]

You can install a 2-piece where there was a three piece. It will mean replacing the entire system. The bearings will be different, and the spindle comes on the arm. You need to get one made for the width of bottom bracket shell you have. Measure the width, likely a 68mm or 73mm. -Calvin

[@brunobaumanis7869]

Park Tool thanks a bunch!

[@gordonreid8649]

What would we do without Calvin? Well done videos!

[@opposition13]

Great videos!! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge!

[@MakeMajor]

This guy is so cool

[@umar344s]

Hes a grumpy old man

[@Tombrosapien]

Hey there, excellent video, however I’m not sure mine was mentioned, I have a hexagon 14mm nut both sides covered my little rubber cap and I’m guessing the one on the right (next to the crankset) goes through to the other side, it’s an SR SUNTOUR model and I’m assuming it’s a 2 piece crank, how do I undo it?

[@soccerking3278]

Got a lot of idea. Thanks Park Tool.

[@IAMOGiNKD]

Hi! I have an old bike with the Non Self Extracting crank on it. Is there any way you can post a video of give me information on how to remove it? thanks!!

[@baileybasty5883]

i just want to ask what specific type of crank lock should i buy for my pinewood hero 1.9?

[@TomAbramoff]

the video series' from park are legendary. thank you!

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

I have a set of Shimano 431 octalink cranks where the brooching was done in each arm but with a 0.5 degree error between them which is a rare slipstream quality control "FAIL" that ended up in my spare parts inventory new .

[@ffiiqqqqqq]

I'm new to cycling and I can't figure out if a particular crank set that's on sale will fit my current road bike. How do I be sure before purchasing it? :'(

[@stopbanningmeonets3514]

Watch this video, if still unsure, post a picture of it on a forum like Reddit (r/bikewrench would be a good sub)

[@TehDanno1]

My crank has a nut on both sides. I think the crank itself is one that goes through both sides with bolt like arms or whatever. The left side has a large ring that tightens down to the frame to keep the shaft in place. That has 3 groves in it at 3 points. Not sure which tool is used to tighten or loose that ring. Other than using a wedge and hammer which seems very inefficient.

[@parktool]

Hello Daniel, Could you send an image of your crank to [e-mail] We can then give you a better idea of the tool you need for your crank.

[@henryhartsfield4574]

Hi Calvin do you know what crank is on the Trek verve three? Thanks

[@michaelberna987]

I could've sworn Calvin played in the Disney Atlantis movie.

[@mujiangtan3238]

Hi Calvin, great video, I like your videos always with explanations on how it works before how to do it. The left crank blot of my bike is lost. I like to find compatible bolt and fix it myself. How to figure out which bolt? The arm is ISIS drive type. I guess cap size and axel thread size are important. I see online stores carry blots for M8 and M15 etc. but I don't have knowledge on what they mean and how to determine the blot I need. Thanks.

[@parktool]

ISIS bolts come in two sizes. Either an M15 or an M12. You can determine this by measuring the ID of the hole in the spindle. When you measure, the measurement will come out just shy of 15 or 12. This is because you are measuring the minor diameter and bolts are labeled by there Major diameter. I hope this helps!

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

ISIS drive cranks are one of the worst 3 piece interfaces ever . Sometimes removing them can be a nightmare , particularly ones with an outboard elliptical / slotted sides lockring from around the year 2000 .

[@LuoRutina]

I would love a similar video for bottom brackets.

[@lokmanmerican6889]

Outstanding instructional video!

[@adamosipov-yv4qu]

This helped lots thanks👍

[@ruiferraz9904]

Greetings park tool, excellent video, I have learned a lot from you, I have only one doubt, I have a cannondale carbon 2 mtb 2018, which tool do I use to remove the crank arm from my bb30? three pieces, big hug from Portugal

[@parktool]

Cannondale Si cranks have a special removal tool that is required. There are tricks around this so that you can use a common crank puller. If you find a washer that will fit the ID of the crank hole so that it the washer will push on the spindle then you can use something like our CCP-44 or CWP-7 with the large swivel foot.

[@ruiferraz9904]

@@parktool Thank you, I will try for sure, and of course, I will continue to accompany you, thank you and big hug from Portugal

[@marccaldw]

Thanks for the video My question is can I upgrade the crankset on my specialized Allez Comp For a 105 crankset. What I should know about I really appreciate Thanks

[@parktool]

You sure can. Depending on what crank you have on your bike you may only need the crank or you may also need a bottom bracket and crank.

[@marccaldw]

@@parktool i Really appreciate

[@iamspecialized398]

Is it possible to upgrade a square type crankset to a hollowtech type? Thanks.

[@parktool]

Sure is. Just need to find a crankset that will be compatible with your drivetrain.

[@iamspecialized398]

@@parktool i have my cannondale synapse claris, already replaced the drivetrain to shimano 105 and planning to upgrade the crankset to hollowtech type but i'm a bit confuse about the bottom bracket, it is a threaded type. Asking for advice, what's the appopriate hollowtech crankset to be use?

[@parktool]

You can run any of the current 105 cranksets. The BBR60 is a great fit for the 105 crankset. You could also use an Ultegra or a Dura ace bb as well. Great thing about Hollowtech II is that it is consistent through the range.

[@iamspecialized398]

@@parktool Thank you Sir, im your new fan from the Philippines. Like all your videos.

[@vitalijletko2828]

You can’t charge 5 grand for a bike with a square taper bottom bracket, it’s gotta be fancy , don’t you know, even though it performs the exact same function.

[@petrosrz8990]

4:30 that’s a nice way to get FBIied while repairing bicycles

[@parktool]

True story: several of our crank videos were briefly demonetized by KZbin due to the name of that standard showing up in the title or description. We had to write an appeal letter explaining that our videos were not, in fact, about the terrorist group. - Video Guy

[@dontbothermeimjust12]

Isis is also actually a woman's name in many countries. I've seen it also for an engineering hydrodynamics calculation software (that predates the terrorist group). Those terrorists basically killed a lot of acronyms for stuff.

[@badbradmx]

old comment but ISIS is also the name of an Egyptian God of magic, as an FYI

[@umar344s]

@@parktool SHUT UP I DONT LIKE YOU OLD GRUMY MAN

[@Thomass7586]

I want to pull the crank on my 1985 Schwinn Traveler to service it. But I,m not sure what thread size puller I need. any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@hyderrider3716]

Super helpful 👍 thank you

[@mugiwaraluffy3287]

Hi sir, can I use roadbike crank on my mtb? I'm planning on making it hybrid.

[@parktool]

Yes you can. It will take a bit more thought depending on what crank you select. Often MTB crank spindles and road spindles are different lengths. You need to accommodate for the different dimension when selecting a bottom bracket, or with spacers.

[@BjornenSilencio]

I ws hoping to finally Get some understanding of the crank on my pre 1950 black bike. But then again, no. Anyone knows if Theres a video on an Old crank like that? Its seems like I have to open the bedt side with a hammer and a kind of pin-version of a screw driver? Help

[@armancelorico2202]

Hi sir. Wouldnt there be any serious issues if I use an 8 speed crankset ( shimano claris r2000 to be specific) on a shimano tiagra 4700 10 speed system?

[@lazmotron]

Excellent and helpfull video

[@breuer2j]

Yo how come your shortcut video links do not work? You guys rule and thank you so much for putting the time in for these video. Is there a park tool set I can purchase for beginner bike maintenance ?

[@dontbothermeimjust12]

So cool, my crank looks nothing like none of those, and I need to replace it. Screw my life.

[@umar344s]

Yeh screw you

[@paulspyker3749]

Yeah, my crank wasn't shown.

[@antoniohernandez6590]

u get your bike from Moldova or wut

[@goodboyringo9716]

Hey you have the same life as me.

[@jensongroff]

Same

[@blodeuweddcooper8970]

Very informative video, thank you very much!

[@chanpit5771]

my crank comes off with a socket and its really small what tool do i use?

[@igypop.]

10/10 for informative video

[@henrybeenh7076]

Yep, my bike's got a cotter pin crank with the presspin, I believe we call this last piece of metal a 'spie-tje' (I'm Dutch) and this spie-tje is completely stuck, I've been banging it for 20 minutes now and it's freezing outside so my fingers are frozen... I'm not very happy right now.

[@parktool]

The cotter pin system is not so good, as you have learned. The pins are made of softer steel, and will often deform when hit with a hammer. Sometimes there is not a happy ending here. Begin by getting the bike inside and warm. In fact get mild heat on the crank like from a hair dryer. You are hitting the threaded end, yes? If the threads are bent, you will need to snap them off, and then use a punch to reach inside. Even this is not always good because you can expend the pin as you strike it, making it harder to remover. It can often come down to drilling out the pin. Good luck.

[@henrybeenh7076]

I did it, haha, but now I have an axis which appeared to be pressed into the frame. I can perhaps hit the whole axis out of the frame but will I be able to buy something that will fit in it... this is the problem with an old bike and with old I mean this bike is probably more than 30 -40 years old. I've had it for well 15 years I think and never did any maintenance... terrible. It's been a very good bike, I'm afraid there's nothing I can do for repairing it now.

[@raphaelnjogu5006]

what happen when the crank slide, is it the chain or free wheel

[@xdi1733]

I don't see my 2020 Specialized Rockhopper Expert 1x crankset which has "stout" printed on the crank arms. @park tool can you help me figure which crank is my type and how to properly remove it?

[@parktool]

Start by removing the 8mm hex bolts from the cranks. That will likely tell you what type you have.

[@RMD992-f2n]

How do I figure out if I have a standard crank or compact crank? How do I find out what gear ratio my crank is ? Please help

[@wenxuanteoh6186]

For the gear ratio, just count the number of teeth on the front and rear sprockets

[@slippy9916]

Can someone tell me why the difference on crank arm length. I'm a 175mm user

[@parktool]

Cranks vary in length depending upon brand/model. From 160 to 180, in small increment. The crank is a lever, so the longer the easier to turn. But it is also further around that circle. Shorter cranks can be turned a faster RPM easier. The knee also articulates (bends) more with longer arms, and that can be an issue for some. The body has levers as well in the femur lower leg, and these of course can vary in length. Then add in riding style, it is not a simple choice. But it can be. If you are new to riding, ride what you got for now.

[@slippy9916]

@@parktool : Thanks for sharing that knowledge. I've been riding since 1994 & I still have today my Balance XR - 350 MTB. & it came with 175mm. Stuck with that number since. I remember my bmx had long cranks, too. I'm 5'6 at 150 lbs & 54 yrs. Young. Now, is there a formula between length of the arm's & number of teeth on the ring. Just curious. All I have to ride here in this part of Nebr. is the local BMX track. & figured the outer ring ( 46 ) & 4th on the 8 speed cassette is the way I can clear the jumps. Thanks again guys

[@TheSamwhyte]

Is it normal for there to be a small gap (approx 7mm) between a crank arm and the bottom bracket?)

[@parktool]

Depending upon the type and model, yes, it can be normal.

[@TheSamwhyte]

@@parktool Okay thanks - I recently bought a second hand bike and I've always been paranoid that it was a sign it was going to perish!

[@jackbeames7643]

On the 2 piece crank my spindle is on the non drive side arm. Is this the same?? They are called Race Face Chester 38x24T, 170mm

[@parktool]

This should be the same. Raceface chesters are pedals. I'm thinking you have a Raceface cinch style crankset and is a self extracting style crankset. These are very versatile and can be converted to different setups.

[@adeelrehman29]

I went to buy fat bicycle, the bike is fine but they have crank arm and pedals in some sort of hard plastic material should i buy it or find metal one?

[@parktool]

If this is for winter riding, the plastic can be a good thing. A plastic pedal transfers less heat from your feet compared to a metal pedal.

[@fabriciocoto1756]

I have this crank set Raceface Æffect Cinch w/ Steel 30T "Narrow Wide" from a diamondback atroz 3 2018, which crank puller do I need CCP-44 CCP-22

[@parktool]

CCP-44 on the Raceface Effect.

[@darthvato3303]

My cruiser has a one piece crank, can I install a mtb 3 gear crank??

[@parktool]

It is possible, see kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWrdgZ6oeNmKe68

[@jrpzjrpz24]

Can I use a 9 speed Tiagra double crankset with an 8 speed Claris rear derailleur?

[@parktool]

For best shifting and general performance you will want to have everything match. This means 8 speed everything or 9 speed everything. That being said using a 9 speed crank in that system should be no big deal. There might be a bit more rubbing in the cross chaining gears but will shift and go forward when pedaled. Hope this helps.

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

Careful azimuth or front derailleur cage trimming or slight spreading near the bottom of the cage can help with pliers but do so ever so slightly as this is really a balancing act and not usually recommended but it can still help .

[@ahmedfurany8641]

How do I take of the cotter? I’m trying hard on my bike but it won’t nudge

[@parktool]

Those can be difficult. The pin is pressed tight into the crank. A tool is the best method to un-press it and remove it. See an example here- kzbin.info/www/bejne/goTIZaqHZd2GfpI People often use a hammer, but that can be very hard to do. The thread bends and breaks. Then a punch must be used.

[@Alphabear89]

If i were replacing the entire crankset, does it matter what cranks i have on right now?

[@parktool]

If by crankset you include the bottom bracket, it does not matter. The new set needs to be compatible with the frame, that is all.

[@ricardodelrey7677]

Hello, I just bought a vintage triple SORA crank-set but I don't know what length of bottom-bracket spindle I need? It's for my old school 8 speed road bike 45 cm. All I know its a Square Tapper JIS, English thread 68 Shell. : /

[@parktool]

Yikes thats a tough one to figure out. What is the model number that is just inside the crank arm? It should be something along the lines of FC-3300 or FC-3303 or something along those lines. The crank arm length should be in the same section of the crank so a 170, 172.5 or 175 will be right above or below it.

[@vvvvali]

Awesome video!

[@moswald14]

you missed the opportunity to say "cranks for watching"

[@parktool]

So many puns, so little time.

[@red2]

What type of system is a Shimano FC M391 crank ? What tool will I need.

[@parktool]

Remove the crank bolt and inspect inside the arm. That should be a square spindle. Use the CWP-7 or CCP-22.

[@jakegarrett8109]

Wow, I think this video has more material covered than most of the useless linguistics/diversity classes I had to take and write essays for, except this video is actually very useful and under 7 minutes packing it all in very well! As a mechanical and aerospace engineer, there are over a billion ways to solve a problem, and it looks like bicycle companies never could settle on one... well, at least this guy covers them well! Great video, you could have a degree in just bicycle repair from all these variations, I’m glad they got an expert on this subject, makes my life easier, thanks!

[@umar344s]

Wow you know a lot smarty pants

[@savoirfaire8979]

*These bikes are easier to work on compared to my cheap Glarewheel e-bike. No specs were provided, so I have to research and measure every part replacement and upgrade.*

[@carbonarne675]

Just undone my padals from my one bike to fit them on my other one and they don't fit... Why? And what type of padal exist/ I need (sram red cranks)

[@parktool]

Pedals are right and left specific so that could be the issue you are running into. There are 2 pedal sizes out there but the smaller 1/2 size is only found on one pice/ashtebula cranks and not on more modern 2 and 3 piece cranks.

[@Leejarm]

would be great to work on bikes that look brand new and pre-loosened. Love these Park Tool videos

[@FarmerFpv]

It's a demo to get people over to the right video for their cranksets, what did you expect? Are you always this narcissistic?

[@ajbulan2029]

2:11 that's a *T H I C C* hex wrench

[@jackadamsdaniels6719]

Thank you !

[@rmu000]

okay so the crank arm of my bike broke and i was thinking if i could just change just the crank arm instead of buying a new crankset and also without changing my current gears.. i'm new to this stuff can someone experienced help me out?

[@parktool]

You can usually just replace one of the arms. but this does depend on the style of crank and what side broke.

[@rmu000]

@@parktool the side where there's no gears broke and i thought of changing both arms without changing the gears.. is it possible?

[@parktool]

The most cost effective way is to find a left hand crank arm that has the same crank arm length as well as style and orientation of spindle.

[@eduardodeleon1]

Great presentation.

[@moviesforrandy]

where is the two piece video?

[@kinanhloubi1935]

HELP!! i was just making restoration on my old bicycle and it has Ventura Crank (Italien brand) Arm which i want to remove, but the arm doesnt have threads that are fitting for crank puller... what can i do!? :(

[@parktool]

Hello, Could you send an image of your crank to [e-mail] ? That will be a good place to get you the help you need on this. Thanks!

[@deanstanley5799]

Why so many different crank designs it was just a crank extracter tool for every make and that's all you needed in your tool box !!!!

[@zoemeow7677]

Are feeling smart now because is getting allot of knowledge in my brain 🤓💖✨✨✨

[@rrivera5249]

I have a 1996 TREK Mountain Track 820 with a Shimano Altus FC-CT91 Crankset. I'm having issues finding a similar crankset to install. It's a 38/32/24 tooth crankset. Can I install a different size crankset ie., 42/38/24? Would that work? Would appreciate anybody's input. Regards

[@diluczhongli3340]

Mine says Powerwheel on the pedal arm, I can't find anything that says what type it is. Anyone know?

[@that70sschwinn]

Great info, thanks for sharing

[@chasedeery1665]

What kind of crank is a race face SixC?

[@parktool]

The current Sixc is a self extracting style crank. Hope this helps!

[@chasedeery1665]

Park Tool thank you

[@Dragon1165]

I have a cotter pin style on my older road bike... guess I'm stuck

[@dreadknot2238]

wow... so many different cranks styles.. humanity is doomed now. two crank style is obviously not enough i guess designers need to make 30 different styles to confuse the shit out of us, maybe their local bike shops are probably contracted with these designers so will have to go the local bike shop to get install by technician and pay them instead , if we do ourselves it be too easy these local bike shop would be out of business with no job. that is my 2¢ theory

[@goat7665]

What if your cranks are two piece but don’t have the pinch bolts and just have an 8mm hex bolt, and are not Campagnolo...

[@jmannUSMC]

Man I really hate bike engineers

[@jpm000001]

I used to work with one, he was a massive twat actually

[@dreadknot2238]

park tool soo much better then HowTo rofl.

[@randomstuff9048]

Thank you

[@tankertango3282]

great job

[@aflick102]

ok I'm think about changing crank type. what kind should I use in the list above

[@andyk4676]

What goes with your drive train

[@gabrielt6556]

When he says the list go on in the matter of time, I'm dead.

[@Waelalshami]

Hi, and thanks for the video, i want to build a 11 speed MTB with one peace crank, most likely shimano type, what crankset you recommend for this?

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome & Thanks :)

[@martinskof6196]

campagnolo can't even standardise 2 crankset types, they need 3 of them...

[@spawnage170]

THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!

[@umar344s]

You shouldnt be

[@lamkienvinh1194]

Great!

[@JuliusCesar2781]

Top Video! You are great 1a+++!

[@firdausamin7382]

Just one problem…

[@sonicstep]

03:33, Three-piece crank

[@wonkylommiter6364]

You didn't mention my favourite.... The wafty crank!

[@vgjhlgjhfuyfjhfjkhgyghj]

No likes after 2 years 🤷

[@stopbanningmeonets3514]

@@vgjhlgjhfuyfjhfjkhgyghj still only yours... And mine

[@stephanefraga2599]

easy to use not super secure

[@MrGino714]

Ok, fine, I go to the bikeshop.

[@dreadknot2238]

dude i live in asia id ride my bike to your shop and get it fix by park tool.

[@DisProveMeWrong]

All these nice high end cranks, and here I am trying to remove a POS crank from a bike I found in the trash.

[@michaelshields8750]

My crank type inst on there?

[@parktool]

What brand/model or style is the arm?

[@michaelshields8750]

@@parktool they are shimano, but when I lift the dust cap off there is no Allen key hole to remove the cranks?

[@parktool]

Is there a bolt head or a nut in there? If not what kind of fitting is there?

[@michaelshields8750]

@@parktool I think it's a bolt head

[@parktool]

Use a 14mm socket or our CCW-5 to remove that bolt. Then you can use a CCP-22 or a CWP-7 to pull the crank off.