There was a Twilight Zone episode about a WWII tank being transported to the little big horn battle. Most of the story was about the soldiers making the decision to interfere in history.
@txgunguy276610 ай бұрын
Yeah, and at the end, the 3 soldiers get out of the tank with their M1 carbines and run to join the battle on foot.
@Tecumseh4-k2z10 ай бұрын
@paulbilger3782: They weren't WW2 soldiers. Present time in episode like 1962
@donald266510 ай бұрын
That was a stellar episode. Have seen it many times and enjoyed it each time.
@edmundcharles527810 ай бұрын
….because the future soldiers could not alter history without also changing future events and possibly Brit own existence; thus most types of the past entry stories merely have the future cried merely completing a past event or remaining neutral to it!
@johnzeszut317010 ай бұрын
Yes - the way they were sliding the .45's and carbine to chamber I though this was directed by Sam Peckinpah!@@txgunguy2766
@CharlieVetter-wk9hf10 ай бұрын
Two things. 1. Sitting Bull was not involved in the battle. He had participated in a religious ritual a day or so before which left him a bloody mess. 2. According to the Indian participants there was no Indian charge against Custer (Reno yes) The Indians said it was more of creeping through the tall grass and undulations of the rounds.
@RexBell30310 ай бұрын
Beat me to it about Sitting Bull. He was an old man
@mopenshaw10 ай бұрын
No M60s? Seriously?
@bragslvbm387010 ай бұрын
Depending on what he defines as a Green Beret since modern ones have unit lineage with 4(ish) different units, the M60 was not heavily used by them. The recce and deep penetration units only used them in limited. The QRF and Hatchet force units used them but no more than a regular infantry platoon
@johntillman606810 ай бұрын
@@bragslvbm3870 OK, then Stoner rifles. We're talking four ODAs of 12 men @, plus. No machine guns at all? Get real. Some heavy weapon specialists would have not only M60s, but 60mm mortars and LAWs.
@huntclanhunt969710 ай бұрын
@@johntillman6068Stoners were almost exclusively used by Navy Seals. Same for the China Lake grenade launcher. Very few were used by army units.
@jakebrandyberry911610 ай бұрын
RPD-44 was famous amongst the green berets though
@somerandofilipino695710 ай бұрын
They had to make it a little fair for the Indians, you see 😂
@RichardC-n6b10 ай бұрын
Custer's Batt. was in a running battle and would not have had time to fortify their position, so any advantage that gave them was null and void. The indians were mostly armed with rifles and crept up thru ravines and coolies.
@morwitzer3410 ай бұрын
The 50 Special Forces soldiers wouldn't put themselves in this situation in the first place.
@williamplatt685910 ай бұрын
Thank you
@mikematusek42336 ай бұрын
They were force multipliers and are trainers of the locals. I'd say use the MacV Sog forces depicted in the Series Tour Of Duty season 3.
@Reargunner-o7h5 ай бұрын
Yes, but he did say if 50 Green Berets found themselves transported into this battle.
@NovelaMeier5 ай бұрын
They likely would have negotiated a peaceful ending. They had faced such tactics in Vietnam, so they knew likely outcome against such a large force. That and they are supposed to help peoples oppressed. It is more likely they would have made Custer surrender or even withdraw. Remember what Custer was doing to women and children before this battle, we tend to overlook this fact. Green Beret would never have allowed him to do such actions. It goes against their code of honour.
@mikematusek42335 ай бұрын
@@Reargunner-o7h That was the situation portrayed in the movie when their camp was over run.
@drunkstepdadproductions785710 ай бұрын
idea : what if the 300 spatrans were supported by modern greek soldiers
@wirebrushproductions100110 ай бұрын
In the long run, not much, at least militarily. The problem is that the Persians started with something like 250,000 soldiers (estimated 120k - 300k). No platoon-sized or company-sized unit will carry enough ammo to make a real dent in an enemy that size. On the other hand, as the saying goes, "You don't win a battle by killing the enemy, you win by making him run away." So, all you would need is a few mortar teams and some ammunition bearers. When mortar rounds start impacting around Xerxes and his generals, the only reasonable explanation would be that the gods were responsible. With the leadrship dead, targeting the front ranks would probably rout the Persian army. There is just no percentage in fighting against the gods.
@scottmyers582810 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@black191710 ай бұрын
Another channel did this. Basically, the very existence of the machine gun and how it works, specifically the noise and gory effect, would completely turn the tide, and give the Persians PTSD.
@lontongstroong7 ай бұрын
Xerxes and his generals would've been the first targets by Greek snipers/marksmen perching from the cliffs. Losing their entire chain of commands by the unseen enemy, the demoralized Persians made a hastily retreat back to their ships, which could be intercepted by Athenian navy and totally destroyed.
@TheJeffcoulter10 ай бұрын
How about a Gulf War-era (1991) American tank battalion integrating into the US 1st Armored Division at the Battle of Kasserine Pass during the Allied North Africa campaign in WW2?
@tbone181210 ай бұрын
bruh! the abrams would FEAST! probably the M60 series as well, since during the storm my unit was using the -60 and we kicked the shit out of the t72...lol
@tomsmith304510 ай бұрын
Mixed M1 and Bradley would be interesting. Have to believe with the tech and training of those units, they'd never drive into a trap, and wouldn't work uncoordinated. Also interesting because I think Bradley and Patton were there, and believe Abrams was part of Patton's army?
@timadams746710 ай бұрын
Now that would be interesting 🧐
@pauldewees757110 ай бұрын
So, kursk would look much different! Belgium would probably be a soviet starlight state . Numbers count.
@lontongstroong7 ай бұрын
@@tbone1812 Heck not even the German's and Italian's heaviest AT weapons could even scratch the US' modern MBTs at point blank range. Way too easy 🤣
@Kdpainted10 ай бұрын
Love this series, great video!
@phillipg.stricklin320610 ай бұрын
In answer to the original question, he would have left them behind, just like he did the 2 Gatling guns he could had.
@george21710 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode where a M3A3 Stuart tank showed up at Little Big Horn...
@marklepollo854610 ай бұрын
if modern Green Berets went back, they would likely have told the entire 7th Calvary to get the F out of there and re-think the whole thing before the battle started.
@donald266510 ай бұрын
The Guns of The South - is an Alternate History of South Africans bringing the AK Variants back in time to the Confederacy and the impact on the Civil War. On another comment stream, that I viewed, there was speculation on what a single Armored vehicle like a modern tank might have made on the Battle of Gettysburg. Some speculated that a LAV or similar large wheeled armored vehicle would be more effective with its auto cannons and 50 cal. machine guns etc.. One Officer chimed in that the Union Forces would quickly recover from the initial shock and would readily see how to knock the tracks off of the tank with logs pushed into the tracks. I found all those speculations to be interesting.
@jamessimms41510 ай бұрын
I want to write a Science Fiction book of WW2 aircraft time traveling back to the CW to assist The South.
@jordanhicks513110 ай бұрын
They would have to get close to the tank first, but I think a Bradley or Stryker would be better, they don't need anti armor capabilities of a tank. The bushmaster on the Bradley with explosive AP rounds would absolutely rule the field
@4325air10 ай бұрын
I read Guns of the South by Turtledove many years ago. Thoroughly enjoyed it!
@rackyjaeckel164410 ай бұрын
You forget that if they fall into the command structure Custer was still in command, Custer was trying to get enough fame to run for president. He would have squandered the benefits that the Green Berets gave him.
@danhardesty631810 ай бұрын
I believe they would tell him to take a hike.
@galbert11710 ай бұрын
@danhardesty6318 they most definitely would, especially if they remember the original battle
@alessiodecarolis10 ай бұрын
Or some "unlucky" accident could've happened to him....
@mattvanderford492010 ай бұрын
This right here proves once again this guy doesn’t know what he is talking about. Nor wood the GB fight along side the Calvary as suggested but be in flanking positions ready to counter attack the first attack or disrupt its original momentum. They would not use automatic fire but still have superior firepower. However if the native army did not spook at the beginning I’m not sure the 50 added guns would be enough. Especially if they were side by side with the Calvary.
@looseunit161510 ай бұрын
Custer's ego killed his troops.
@ObsydianShade10 ай бұрын
I suspect, at some point after the battle, Custer would have been found tied up somewhere, firmly gagged, so as to not to influence much of anything.
@MrCvnbvn10 ай бұрын
That dumbbell needed it back right after the Civil War.
@budwilliams659010 ай бұрын
fragged.
@jamessimms41510 ай бұрын
Understandable as the last in his class @ West Point
@craigplatel81310 ай бұрын
You and the guys replying to you have no understanding of what the current tactical concepts were in use by the US army and the native Americans at the time. Go do some research about what the typical conduct of native Americans were when their camps were attacked. Then go look at how Custer planned his attack.
@RexBell30310 ай бұрын
He was excellent in the Civil War.
@carinasmirnoff178010 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. The alternate history battles are so good.
@mopenshaw10 ай бұрын
A more interesting consideration. How few Green Berets would it take to be able to turn the tide of the battle? 6? 12? 20?
@RexBell30310 ай бұрын
6
@HunterBidenscrack10 ай бұрын
@@RexBell303 1 and his name is John Rambo.
@nedkelly203510 ай бұрын
I suspect only a few, IF armed with one of the ultra high speed mini guns and unlimited ammo. I don't the names and numbers of those guns, but some of them do like 1000 rounds a minute or more, so I think you could just so left to right and right to left, everyone and their horse in front of you would new mowed down.
@andysheepleton10 ай бұрын
@@nedkelly2035 You wouldn't have unlimited ammo. it is possible that they would have logistics issues if it were a small number. When they aspirated was it right there with boxes and boxes of ammo, or was it at the fort?
@vegan-cannibal71410 ай бұрын
Depending on their load-out I'd say 4 or maybe 8. It really depends on how quickly the berets can make contact and convince the natives how badly their life choices had lead them astray
@rvnerd767110 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your content. Well thought out and explained so Joe Anybody could understand it. Thank you! Semper Fi
@marksauck339910 ай бұрын
Some of the art, the paintings depicting this battle are beautiful.
@rmurphy343510 ай бұрын
The 7th Calvary did not carry muskets as stated. The cavalry were armed with Springfield “trapdoor” single shot carbines in 45-70 caliber.
@geraldcalderone5228-x2p6 ай бұрын
With copper cartridges. They failed. The post mortem investigation convinced the US Army to convert to brass
@Princess_Celestia_5 ай бұрын
Psst, the modle Springfield "Trapdoor" Carbine was a converted musket. If you look one up, you will see it came with a ramrod.
@Colton-zn9kk3 ай бұрын
I love stuff please continue your work
@Lexi-vl5eh10 ай бұрын
Love this series. Keep them coming.
@Dare_To_Game10 ай бұрын
I think the battle would end up being fairly one sided. Little Bighorn was mostly a strategic blunder, and the green berets wouldn't make the same mistakes.
@DanBeech-ht7sw5 ай бұрын
Of course not. They would have wiped out the 7th cavalry before they got anywhere near the Sioux
@HenryKobyla140710 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I like how the troop type changes every time to fit the situation.
@SS_Atlantic_Greyhound111910 ай бұрын
I got this idea whilst watching a clip from the series black sails, but long story short... HMS Victory is present for the Battle of Actium in 31 BCE, during the final confrontation between Octavian and Mark Antony that would see the latter's death and end of any major threat to Octavian's rise to emperor of rome. How would this battle play out if HMS Victory is on the side of Mark Anthony? What if HMS Victory was at Actium in 31 BCE?
@ociejohns821310 ай бұрын
There was still the factor of Custer splitting his forces into 3 units, therefore the beret's could have been split up or sent with Reno or Bentween .
@808INFantry11X10 ай бұрын
Well actually no even though Custer maybe the ranking officer Green Berets don't fall under those types of Command structures. They run independent operations for a reason.
@BryceBarker-b2s10 ай бұрын
That was interesting. I love the old West. In another episode, how about samurai in the crusades? Or Marine Recon in a Revolutionary or Civil War battle. Thanks again for the video.
@txgunguy276610 ай бұрын
One thing that virtually every visual depiction of the battle of Little Bighorn gets wrong is the hats that the 7th Cav troopers are wearing. Due to army regulations of the time, soldiers were required to purchase their own hats. Straw Boater hats(barber shop quartet hats) were VERY popular because they were only a dime at the sutler's store.
@projecttwentytwentyfiveisgreat10 ай бұрын
Good observation. Those hats were a contributing factor to the lose. No native could take a guy wearing that seriously.
@Princess_Celestia_5 ай бұрын
We have photos of Custer's men prior to the battle, they where not wearing those kind of hats, homie. Most of the hats they wore where kepis and forge caps while officers would wear stetsons. So the depictions are accurate as far as hats go.
@garyhardison926510 ай бұрын
You forgot about the claymores each soldier would’ve carried on patrol/ missions. 1 or more carried by each soldier would’ve given them 40 plus claymores which would have given them a huge advantage
@jordanhicks513110 ай бұрын
How do you see them using the claymore mines? As a defensive perimeter for the flanks or placing them then falling back before detonating them as the enemy takes the ground?
@pyeitme50810 ай бұрын
Well De Oppresso Liber, wish for 21st century Green Berets soon😂
@darbyheavey40610 ай бұрын
Maybe the Berets would join the Indians….
@pyeitme50810 ай бұрын
@@darbyheavey406 ya
@byrd-is-the-word9 ай бұрын
If you are going to add hypothetical 50 Green Beret to Custer's men .. it is only fair you add 50 Sioux warriors that were trained veterans of the Rangers .. the outcome would then not change .. the 7th, Custer and the Green Beret would still have their asses handed to them by the Sioux, Cheyenne, and the Rangers .. (:))
@Fix_Bayonets10 ай бұрын
Real hard to find vietnam war depictions without an M60 present.
@johnkaylor72055 ай бұрын
You haven't been to the battle site nor do you have any knowledge about what really happened. In reallity the battle that took place really happened in two places about 5 miles from each other. And very different outcomes for each. If you get the chance I recommend visiting the site and study battle tactics used at the time, you will come back with very different results.
@papapabs1755 ай бұрын
Using battle tactics used at the time, that is key to most of the arguments
@bcask6110 ай бұрын
How about 50 Green Berets plus Ditka?
@geraldcalderone5228-x2p6 ай бұрын
Ooooh the Ditka difference! That would change everything.
@ericdeforest843710 ай бұрын
Probably would have had at least a few m60s in an element that size, great video tho !
@kennethquinnies60235 ай бұрын
I think they might have had a few claymore mines as well.
@TomWagner-sk5dm5 ай бұрын
If you give the Sioux assault rifles and light machine guns before the battle.... no impact. Dividing them into three parts (every group only 17 men strong) as Custer did with the 7th cavalry and two times those 17 against more than 1000 native warriors (like Reno's attack first and than Custer's).... nope. But I doubt a group of Green Berets would be as dumb as Custer bringing them into the same hopeless situation.... 🤔
@craigsawicky164310 ай бұрын
As long as they Ignored Custer they would fairly easily prevail. Just using Semi-Auto Rifle Fire they could keep the enemy at a distance. Since the enemy is on horses, allow them to Attack to maybe 50-100 yds before responding. No reason to make them aware of longer range abilities as long as possible. The idea would be to cause as many Casualties as possible, not scare them off to harass as the troops were Retreating/Leaving.
@DougthebearRichards10 ай бұрын
Most Indians entered the final battle as infantry. Only in the last stages was there a cavalry charge.
@jreese465 ай бұрын
Depends. How long do they have to train up the locals?
@aldenfloyd543210 ай бұрын
This reminds me of a novel titled Remember The Alamo, in which an oil magnate hires a mercenary force armed with 1980's era weapons, to take part in and win the Battle of the Alamo. The reason was to give the oil company access to oil fields in the northern part of Mexico by pushing the U.S./Mexico further south than it actually is. It's a fun read.
@dirtfarmer707010 ай бұрын
I read this book in high school !
@thomasbraden824210 ай бұрын
That was a good book.
@jameshorton749610 ай бұрын
I read this one also years ago. There were two other books in the same vein, where soldiers go back in time like that. One took place at Gettysburg, the other at the Little Big Horn. But there weren't 50 of them and I don't think they were Green Berets. I do recall that in the Custer one, some of them were killed. Don't remember how it ended. Same with the Gettysburg one.
@dirtfarmer707010 ай бұрын
@@jameshorton7496 I think I read the gettysburg one too. It was wierd but I think the protagonist convinced the federal general to not occupy culps hill and the confederates win the battle. He was stuck in the past, I believe. I think they had one about Chickamauga too. That was a sort of time wrinkle sort of deal. A 60s combat team ends up fighting in that battle. One survivor and he buries the weapons and commits suicide.
@Princess_Celestia_5 ай бұрын
The U.S. wasn't involved at the Alamo, that was Mexicans calling themselves Texicans revolting against other Mexicans for independence. Who ever wrote that book must have failed history class.
@nomadmarauder-dw9re10 ай бұрын
Is their support structure with them?
@michaelmorgan997310 ай бұрын
Alternate scenario: 50 Green Berets, but they have to use the weapons of the era. Or: Custer's men (or at least some, at the battle) armed with modern weapons and trained to use them.
@hiki991110 ай бұрын
I would love to see a TV series about these alternate history battles.
@SlumberBear2k10 ай бұрын
these are great conversation because whether you disagree or not everyone has something to or add.
@alexwalker365910 ай бұрын
One of our Warriors, Green Beret was Eugene Poweshiek, Mesquakie-Sauk&Fox, he served three tours in VietNam.
@northwind205010 ай бұрын
800 yard range on point target with an M-16. Battle would have been over faster then Usain Bolt can run the 200
@chadm698110 ай бұрын
No 800 is the area target range, granted with 5000 Indians charging your bound to hit something. 550 meters is the max effective range for a point target for an M-16A2.
@SFCret2410 ай бұрын
M16A1 max point target range was 460 meters
@DougthebearRichards10 ай бұрын
Spencer - 500m @@SFCret24
@paulacornelison24310 ай бұрын
This issue was covered on an episode of the TWILIGHT ZONE. The soldiers' names were listed on the memorial. 20 modern soldiers against a thousand mobile fighting men.
@jamesbednar862510 ай бұрын
There was a "Twilight Zone" episode where a National Guard tank on maneuvers inadvertently found themselves going back in time. They ended up at Little Big Horn and participated in the battle, though their tank magically became unserviceable.
@pyeitme50810 ай бұрын
I think 48 is more accurate for 4 A-teams (12 person squad) than 50. 🤔
@neilpk7010 ай бұрын
Given the Green Berets' work with indigenous groups in Vietnam, it'd be interesting if they were on the warriors' side.
@davidclendening973210 ай бұрын
They could have supported the Blackfoot Which were the enemy of Lakota and Cheyenne and Arapaho People fail to remember that the indigenous enemy scouts were crucial in these conflicts
@jordanhicks513110 ай бұрын
They are American soldiers first and foremost, they would never fight against the cavalry. Maybe they would stick with the indigenous scouts but that's about it
@blindscience170110 ай бұрын
ah yes, thank you for this. I was wondering when LBH was going to to this channel of yours. Wasnt excepting 'nam era SF guys. Still great food for thought, but, what would it be like with the gatling guns would've happen?
@chargerkid510 ай бұрын
So let's forget green berets all together. Benteen shows up and he and Reno team up and are able to hold off the Indians force. 100 men with 1800's single shots would have completely changed the outcome. Or not dividing your force 2 or 3 times.
@48samari7 ай бұрын
I will interject one thing into this battle and not even use the modern soldiers. Custer had 4 Gatling guns at his disposed but didn't bring them along. Had he brought them, the same devastation that the Green Berets would have inflicted with the use of those weapons alone. Just a thought. Besides, Custer was an idiot for splitting his forces without knowing the disposition of his enemy.
@andrewstackpool49119 ай бұрын
There was a short story many years ago about a WW2 Army unit transported back in time by a nuclear explosion to Gettysburg. The interesting point was that some were from the North, others from the South.
@spokanetomcat110 ай бұрын
Since these men came from the future they would have knowledge of the battle tactics coming at them and address it as well.
@serpent64510 ай бұрын
My team carried 390 rounds of 5.56X45 loaded in 30-round mags, plus a couple hundred more in bandoleers in the ruck.
@BobSmith-dk8nw10 ай бұрын
Vietnam Era - we had 20 round magazines. .
@serpent6455 ай бұрын
@@BobSmith-dk8nw yeah, no shit. The gear the boys have now is a whole different era. You're my regimental father, thanks. I wish we could meet some day.
@1969chgoodwin10 ай бұрын
Parry This , how about the battle of Teutoburg Forest but the Roman legions have modern day special operators ( like seals or delta) for battle tactics to assist them ( not engage) and using small radio operated drones to view the battlefield
@stevenstreets69510 ай бұрын
If they knew what a war criminal Custer was targeting women and children those Green Berets would fight for the Indians. Indigenous integrating and networking is their historic specialty. 🪓
@alessiodecarolis10 ай бұрын
The only problem would be the lack of support weapons, such as M60s, a pair of squads would've added a devastating firepower to the GBs. Naturally the grenade launchers would've been very useful, expecially from the psycholocical factor, indians knew the power of the artillery, but being shot by something that you can't see is very frightful.
@johnborio447010 ай бұрын
By the way - there was a Twilight Zone Episode (S5 : E10) "On June 25, 1964, three Army National Guard soldiers on maneuvers near the Little Big Horn battle site find themselves unwittingly involved in Custer's Last Stand" (IMDB).
@tomsmith304510 ай бұрын
I'm thinking maybe the Vietnam vets would have asked the question - why are we trying to attack a civilian village again? And maybe have avoided the entire mess based on superior leadership and improved morals. I'd expect better of both of those from any 1960's US soldier than we ever had from Custer.
@arapahoetactical774910 ай бұрын
Great concept but I believe that you have it wrong. Custer was an idiot and was out for glory. His mindset at the time was that he wanted to move fast, find them, fix them and kill them. The reason he chose not to take the Gatling Guns was that he didn't want them slowing him down. He was Calvary first and foremost and wouldn't take foot soldiers with him unless they were mounted on horseback. Wagons would be just as slow, if not slower than the Gatling Guns. So unless you could get these Green Berets up to speed on horseback, meaning they'd have to leave their heavier weapons like the M-60s behind. Combine this with the fact that most of the US forces were caught out in the open on rolling grass land with no cover or concealment and the fact that Custer was going to do what he felt regardless of warnings he'd received from his own staff. Regardless was the GB told him, I believe he'd have made the same stupid mistakes. I believe that the GBs would have made a difference and probably could have gotten some of the men out alive and certainly send many of the Indians running, I think that serving under a self centered idiot like Custer would have been a waste of these men and their abilities.
@claytonbenignus468810 ай бұрын
That Custer was an Idiot would not be lost on the Green Berets. Custer would have been removed from Command.
@Princess_Celestia_5 ай бұрын
He only had been offered 2 gattling guns and 2 Hotchkiss repeating cannons. These are great back east with proper roads but out west the damned things where useless, they required 4 horses to pull them and teams of men to man handle them over obstacles, and the frequently rolled over during transport and the where notirious for jamming up. Ever officer experienced in fighting the natives all said the same thing: They where usless. And Custer knew that. What wasn't usless was the king cannon of the west, the Mountain Howitzer. Small enough it can be broken down and transported on the backs of 4 muels with ease. But he didn't have access to them and he was better off not taking the dead weight. I can't believe this is still being argued, this argument had been settled months after the battle...
@Princess_Celestia_5 ай бұрын
@@claytonbenignus4688He wasn't an idiot, you don't make the rank of general in your 20's by being an idiot.
@geekstradamus15485 ай бұрын
50 Green Berets - that’s four ODAs, the MAJ, and a SGM. So almost a whole company. That means they’d have trained up elements of the Kiowa, Commanche, Utes, and 3 other tribes, 27 towns worth of settlers, and 600 Vaqueros, and surrounded the Lakota, Arapaho, Dakota and Cheyenne encampments. Then negotiated with Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, et al, from a position of strength, convincing them to join forces, move north, and carve out a new Indian nation in Alberta.
@sandhill931310 ай бұрын
50 at once would probably be the biggest SF gathering ever, even in post war reunions, for specialists that operated in handful size groups 🙂. I'd expect even just one SF non-com to say "No, we're not going to do this." Smart observation and assessment was generally their specialty, and getting ambushed would not be in their game plan.
@Voucher7655 ай бұрын
The 7th Calvary Regiment later became part of the 1st Calvary Division and they in turn fought in the Vietnam War at Ia Drang
@surrelljr10 ай бұрын
Pretty much lost me when they were allowed to dig in first.
@dannyhernandez12125 ай бұрын
I think many here aren't considering the terrain of the batttlefield. The Army was at a grave disadvantage from the start by being in open the whole time. The Natives took advantage of the hills, slopes, and gulches that they knew like the back of their hands.
@davidnemoseck900710 ай бұрын
50 might have been a bit to many for this one, IMO, but still liked it.
@TheCerebralDude10 ай бұрын
Instead of Green Berets why not use the modern 7th Cavalry? They are still around you know
@budwilliams659010 ай бұрын
Most of your pics show M60 light machine guns yet you have none in your equipment list?
@williewonka669410 ай бұрын
Instead of green berets, howabout 3 Roman legions with auxiliary calvery and seige machinery vs the Sioux and Northern Cheyenne?
@darkgelfling10 ай бұрын
I have a crazy what if for you What if a platoon of US Marines World War II error went back in time and fought with Spartacus at the Battle of the Silarius River? I think that would be a crazy one
@mikeyosten60310 ай бұрын
I would have included helicopters for mobility and claymore mines for their defensive position but it's a great what if question
@michaelstorm85786 ай бұрын
No air strike?
@jmjones789710 ай бұрын
SF would have never rode into that Valley like and/ or with Yellow Hair. My Old Man w/ a 12 man Team was overrun by a reinforced Company sized element @/across W Border in the Highlands under Kennedy. He's 80 years old today, still living outside Conroe, Texas. Custer was a fool
@loganbaker3510 ай бұрын
Hey, please can you try the modern French Foreign Legion holding the Ardennes against the Wehrmacht in the Battle of France? Please, I think this will be a competitive battle and could go either way.
@Michael-fh6lw5 ай бұрын
M-16s,xm-177s( Car 15s) , claymores, 60mm motors and m-60 machine guns ? Depends on where the green berets were deployed? If with Custer they would have beaten back the natives that attacked Custers three companies( at least 500-600 natives dead) unless the Platoon was split up - if that's the case about 15 green berets would have DIED with Custer leaving about 400 plus native warriors dead History has shown that Custer company got " bum rushed" in the tall prairie grass- vicious close in fighting
@leonardswintek86410 ай бұрын
Sitting Bull never left the village.
@geraldcalderone5228-x2p6 ай бұрын
Sitting Bull sat it out
@DougthebearRichards10 ай бұрын
Hmm, the Indians had Winchester repeaters, effective single target range of 250m, Spencers, with an effective range of 500m, the Henry had an effective range of 200m, but had a 15 round magazine (think rapid fire - like a 19th c assault rifle. Once the Indians had realised the range of the weapons they were up against they could have simply stayed at range, under cover, and sniped at the Army forces. Arrows were also loosed by Indians from behind cover, in high trajectory and the archers would not have been visible to the soldiers and virtually impossible to fire back at. The other thing to remember is this, Custer had 250 troopers, plus 50 modern troops. That is still only 300 troops. There were about 1200 Indian warriors. Every ten men lost from the Army forces was around 3% of total forces. The Indians could afford higher casualties. Once Custer's forces had been attrited by about 20% capacity would really have started to break down.
@apolloperez870610 ай бұрын
What if Geronimo was there! The Green Berets would certainly hesitate!
@j.chriswatson684710 ай бұрын
In other words, the SF saved Custer for his courts-martial for disobeying orders and advancing without support.
@RexBell30310 ай бұрын
That wasn’t entirely his fault. The Rosebud battle caused Crook to retreat south toward modern day Sheridan. The battle was about a week before and was the same village. Custer should have been informed of it, but never was.
@TomScott__10 ай бұрын
General Custer becomes President Custer.
@san_diegan69diegan2710 ай бұрын
Probably, huh?
@mmabri10 ай бұрын
Lol, Custer wanting to become President was from an episode of Branded. The historical accuracy of this is very sketchy.
@michaelrs801010 ай бұрын
Nice fantasy story. Love stuff like this. Big Harry Turtledove fan. HOWEVER, none of the Troopers in the 7th Cavalry had muskets.
@dutchflats10 ай бұрын
Sitting Bull didn't actually engage in combat at the Battle of the Little Bighorn, he stayed in the village. Crazy Horse and Chief Gall among others led the fight on the Indian's side.
@phred19610 ай бұрын
Well seeing as you're going there allow me to suggest that you go a little farther down the Garden Path. In the Star Trek episode The Omega Glory Captain Ron Tracy along with a handful of civilians and four phasers fought a battle against the Yangs in a parallel Earth. Initially he fought a smaller engagement against several hundred armed with only his single hand phaser. But later on when he acquired three extra phasers from a landing party he fought and lost a much larger engagement. If you're looking for pseudohistorical what ifs this is a good one. One trained soldier with a high-tech weapon, three civilian assistance with similar weapons against an enormous number of Indians AKA Yangs. Hey if we're going down the rabbit hole, let's go down the rabbit hole.
@longtabsigo10 ай бұрын
Special Forces Operational Detachments Alpha; or as they are abbreviated SFODA’s and we call ODA’s come in units of 12 Green Berets. 2 officers and 10 enlisted, sooooo it would more accurately be titled 48 of us Green Berets. Each rifle would have a minimum of 340 bullets on their web gear and bandoliers, plus another 150-250 in their ruck along with 1 or 2 of the 5 qt “canteens.” All 48 would carry their .45’s & min 11 mags with 100-150 more rounds in the ruck or buttpack. And when the bullets ran out, we had an e-tool with a very sharpened edge. It took until more than a little way thru before I noticed the SF guys were in addition to, not, in place of. Unless you eliminate Custer, there is a leadership conundrum and the loss at that battle was all on him…I’d like to think he was morphined to a 36 hour controlled nap induced by the SF Medic to rectify that aspect of the issue.
@snapdragon660113 күн бұрын
Where are their M18A1 Claymore directional fragmentation anti-personnel mines? 🎇
@WayneKim-dv6id10 ай бұрын
As a retired Grenn Beret I think those 50 Green Berets would of been working with "indige" to Free the Oppressed..lol. another thing is I guess those 50 Vietnam era GBs would be a Mike Force and not deployed in 12 man ODAs.
@RexBell30310 ай бұрын
The Crow were fighting against the Sioux with the US Army
@MichaelClinton-lk2vd10 ай бұрын
Suppose it depends on which side your Green Berets are attached huh?
@mattholland896610 ай бұрын
I think your assessment is a bit optimistic. I would doubt the Green Berets would be excited about standing beside Custer on last stand hill. There, many of the troopers died from a rain of arrows used like artillery. Fired from out of sight below the crest of land. That being said, let the lads complete Custer's strategy and they could have won the battle. Custer, was trying to cross the river and get behind the camp. Then when Reno attacked on one end, he would be in a position to capture the women and children fleeing the camp in the other direction. He could not find a way to get his mounts over the river. So the plan never worked. But a river crossing for special forces is no issue. They could have captured the women and children and held them as hostage to get the braves to lay down their arms just as Custer had planned. Many lives would have been saved and history changed forever.
@michaelshea43728 ай бұрын
🤣 the green berets wouldn’t have been stupid enough to listen to the guy
@chriscorsi6225 ай бұрын
There was a twilight zone based on this
@keithmohrhoff744310 ай бұрын
Forget modern weapons. If the 50 Green Berets were allowed to make their own tactical decisions, they would’ve remained split off from Custer’s main group. Making a stand like Custer’s men did left them cut off and immobile allowing indigenous hostiles to pick and choose the engagement and control the pace of battle. If 50 Green Berets-even armed with contemporary weaponry-had remained detached from the 7th Cavalry, the indigenous hostiles would’ve found themselves caught between the two forces.
@ckfacebook6210 ай бұрын
The original Twilight Zone had a similar episode with three 1960s era soldiers going back in time, all three died among the 7th calvary.
@mmabri10 ай бұрын
To be fair those 3 were stupid. They only brought 2 M-1 rifles and a .45 auto. They left their tank behind.
@ridgerunner577210 ай бұрын
CAValry... is a mobile, then, horse mounted tactical unit of the combined arms doctrine. Calvary is a hill that was outside the historic walls of Jerusalem....
@xgford9410 ай бұрын
2:51 so you are making the SAME Mistake NO Gatling Gun and NO M60 5:58 centre screen 6:25 and again 7:27 again 8:30 again 10:29 one more
@DanBeech-ht7sw5 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see how Sitting Bull would deploy his 50 green berets to best effect. In fact, they might have been enough to hurl the settlers ba k over the mississipi
@seniorp944410 ай бұрын
I simulated US Army Rangers at the same battle with the same result 😮. Historical Battles Time Machine on the GPT Store.
@pk9w6mv410 ай бұрын
Should have just put an A-team there to make it fair. But fun to play around with nonetheless😀
@jordanhicks513110 ай бұрын
Do they get that ruger ac556 with unlimited ammo?
@jeffadams980710 ай бұрын
There Were Around 2000-3000 Indian's, 50 Green Beret's Would NOT Have Made Much Of A Difference...
@edmundcharles527810 ай бұрын
…..but they were not all assembled at the sand place and time, since there were multiple site engagements during this battle. Also as with modern tactics, not all of the Indian forces would have bed committed in a first wave attack, there were other echelons, reinforcements and scouting forces as well. If a first wave gets defeated a second attack wave may or may not be ordered!
@RexBell30310 ай бұрын
@@edmundcharles5278and they all were not warriors
@sayhey748210 ай бұрын
a painting at 10:45 actually looks like g.a.c is about too shoot himself in the head {im sure not intensional art wise } but hadda comment on it 😝,also love seeing old movies {go tell the spatons} that are near forgotten by most used for representation of war eras past ,well done , btw iv fantasized this AND same idea {alamo} both esp from 1964 twilight zone episode { the 7th is made up of phantoms}good work but id not go further past the event itself in history ,it takes away AND ADDS too much to be changed history wise ,easier too say ," phew ill NEVER mix wine and scotch and BANANAS before sleeping ! makes for cuurazy dreams" 😵💫
@Hillbilly645 ай бұрын
They would have found a hole to hide in an called in for CAS 😂😂😂
@SSGLew10 ай бұрын
The GBs would not be with Custer - not mobile enough to keep up with mounted troops. They'd be with Benteen and the Pack Train.