(Part 1) Caution Problems With New Springfield Armory Saint Review BIG Fail Malfunction Jam

[@apollosdestruction2245]

I'm a machinist , even the best companies can have something slip past quality. but the best companies should repair or replace it immediately. period!

[@brucejuice169]

I put over 2,000 rounds through mine in the first two weeks of buying with ZERO problems! Deff a fluke! Great shooting, smooth rifle!

[@abrahamcastro4201]

Same , about 1500 here and no issues .

[@williamrunner6718]

The lesson to be learned here is to NEVER buy a weapon until it's been around awhile and all the bugs have been spotted and hopefully worked out.

[@brutusb1858]

yup. i just bought one. its been a number of years. works perfectly

[@roncedad7032]

4yrs later im experiencing this issue

[@skionen1781]

Sounds like you got your self a lemon

[@williamrunner6718]

@@skionen1781 Never

[@alanmeyers3957]

This is just another AR pattern rifle, if manufactured correctly, should be no problems, it’s not a new design.

[@jn3417]

I love my Saint. Haven't had one issue with it

[@robf4605]

Same I have the saint Victor and it's a beauty

[@Barchenhund]

Went to the range for the first time with a new, never fired, Springfield Saint. Not an Edge or Victor. Just the plain Jane Saint with a Romeo 4H 2 MOA circle red dot a Juliet 4 magnifier and Strike Industries extended left latch charging handle. Move rear iron sight back one slot, to the rear most position to accommodate magnifier. Extended charging handle added because I noticed rear of magnifier is awkwardly positioned just above charging handle. Removed upper from lower. Disassembled BCG lubed with white silicone gun grease. Lightly oiled trigger assembly and barrel. I was taught in 1973 run M16’s wet. Shot correctly stored five year old green tip ammo I used for a mini-14. The Springfield Saint did NOT HAVE ANY failure to fire or cycle in seventy-five rounds.

[@friedicecream]

Same, I don't get it

[@cheycityyy]

I don't care about springfields customer service because I've never had to deal with them. All my Springfield firearms are very reliable and have had 0 issues. My saint was purchased a few months after it came out and to this day, not a single problem. Can't say the same about other firearms from other companies. Springfield is still one of the best.

[@TheRealZJE313]

Me too but he will be ok thats the good thing.they will take care of this problem Springfield don't play when u call them and tell them u have a gun thats broken.

[@JEDIYOUNG]

awesome gun for sure, this guy issue is a fluke i guess

[@MrFlatulentOne]

have 3 different models of Springfields, including 2 handguns & 1 rifle. Never a single issue, never a single jam between tens of thousands of rounds in all 3 firearms. Even if I did have an issue, they're all under a lifetime warranty from Springfield.

[@FolkFirearmsCollective]

did you try to "mortar" it? Grip the charging handle as you did again, and slam the stock onto the ground. That force should forcibly extract that stuck case. When doing this please obey the 4 rules of safety. Be safe my friend. Good vid.

[@DAIadvisor]

Works like a charm every time! ;)

[@alexanderflieger8095]

Denny Ducet I was going to type that.

[@robminor5796]

I was going to recommend selling it and buying a psa or smith and Wesson and cutting your losses

[@motoremedy986]

Rob Minor why in the hell would you spend 650 on the smith and Wesson. The rifle is poorly made you got to replace everything. Psa has the saint for 750

[@danielhaley89]

The forward assist is not the remote start for a Prius. You palm-smack it as hard as you can. Pushing it with your finger is not how to work it.

[@natetetreault4964]

this

[@soldierboy425]

Have you tried adjusting the set screw in the handle? It might be putting too much pressure against the upper.

[@onemansworld5498]

Springfield has the gun. the last minute of this video has a link in the upper right hand corner that goes to part 2 of this. you can see some updated info

[@tinman6514]

I’ve had mine for over 2 years and I fire a combat load twice a month at the club… It’s a workhorse and it’s been flawless with all 5.56 and .223 ~ But these things can happen… I’ve noticed in failure/review videos that most bcg’s look dry… I’ve always run my rifles damn near wet with few issues in 10 + years of consistent shooting… Peace ~

[@Ellie_and_Coco]

ok so I just got my rifle back from springfield and now it works how it's supposed to lol. I called the tech at springfield and he said there were machine marks in the chamber..... he stated that they polished them out and now I should not have any problems. when I received the rifle and pulled it out I noticed that the castle nut on the buffer tube was very loose so I had to tighten and re stake but other than that it's fine now.

[@onemansworld5498]

Good deal! but wish you didn't have to go through all that to get it running right.

[@jessekitto9234]

my buddies brand new saint also jammed exaclty like this today with the 2nd mag through the firearm

[@mtisseur60]

I have this exact problem happen to me about ever 200 rounds! However in my case it is a bad round causing it. The reman bullets I shoot have a lemon every so often. To fix this or get the bullet out I have used a brass punch with a hammer applying 1 or 2 solid taps on the bolt in the direction to open. After a few taps, try extracting the bullet using the charging rod again. Has worked every-time for me. After 1000 rounds this has happen to me twice now and really appears to be an ammunition issue not gun.

[@rjmprod]

I know this is five years later but I do see a gap between where the barrel meets the frame . Mine does not look like that. I would be interested in knowing what you found out..

[@Robert31352]

I own two of these. I have friends who own them as well. NEVER had a problem. Never had a misfire. Never had a jam. Send the damn thing back and get another one. It is a fluck. The other part of review is just fluff. Other people's opinion of their rifle has nothing to do with your malfunction. I regretfully have to say that I am not a Springfield Armory expert like you. The only other Springfield I have had experience with was an M14 in Marine Corp boot in 1970. We did not get the opportunity to give our opinion about the weapon or call customer service with any complaints at that time.

[@onemansworld5498]

First thank you for your service. Second I agree its a Fluke Third back when you had your Springfield experience in 1970 Springfield was Springfield from Springfield Mass. that closed its doors in 1968 . Not the company from Texas that bought the name in 1974 and moved it to Genesseo, il outside of springfield, IL. I am no expert either sir

[@robertdunlap8851]

wtf does that have to do with his situation. All of your comment is you fluffing yourself.

[@michaelbush2425]

I've put close to 5000 rounds in my saint freefloat, and I've yet to have a single malfunction... I love my saint

[@tylermalloy588]

I too am having the same exact problem but mine is the newer style Saint and I’m also having some extreme pressure problems and the extracted cases have the primers ripped out

[@southtexasmayhem5412]

My original Saint never had a single malfunction, however, I totally rebuilt the gun on the Saint receivers. Every single critical part of the system is made by BCM now, and its been great since.

[@crewdogg15]

I bough mine from cabellas, fired it today for the first time. 4 jams in a row..hard jams. The shells wouldn't extract and they were stucker than cement shit inside the chamber. I then had to beat the charging handle back on the last jam and it snapped the end off. Cabellas is sending it to Springfield for me. The guy thought i didnt lube it before i shot it. I shouldn't have to.

[@snowplow4585]

I have almost the exact same problems with my saint as well. I purchased it and took it to the range two days later. Loaded a full mag of .223 and everything went smoothly. Next loaded some 5.56 after the first round it jammed. Charging handle wouldn't pull back and was stuck like yours. I had to get someone at the front to pry it out with a screwdriver like you said in your vid. I field stripped it and noticed that each 5.56 round that I tried to manually slide into the barrel either barely fit, or did not slide all the way in. To me it looks like a have a bad batch of 5.56 ammo or there is a malfunction with the barrel of the rifle but I'm still a novice shooter and not too sure. Will post video if asked EDIT: before people bash me saying that .223 and 5.56 aren't the same... I KNOW THAT. The Springfield Saint is supposed to be chambered to fire both

[@onemansworld5498]

You very correct 5.56 and .223 are completely different, but very close. Springfield has made a bad gun or at least a bad batch of guns. the tolerances are to small for the calibers they designate to shoot. I would post a video. people need to know what they are risking buying these sub-par guns. thanks for watching and commenting

[@TheSeriousWaterman]

Update on my St edge 556 16" At first I did have a few malfunctions, rounds hard to chamber with charging handle and failure to eject. I found putting a few drops oil on feed ramp helped the issue. After about 600 rds it feeds flawlessly and haven't had any issues since. I did have one trigger assembly pin fall out but Springfield send me 2 new ones customer service was great. I have no regrets.

[@innonativeoutdoors]

My first AR15 did the same thing as well. Stuck cases in the chamber after I fire. I had to buy a vehicle antenna, saw off the ball end, and use that as a ram rod to get the charging handle and case out of the chamber. I then started oiling my ammo and that helped. Sin enough it just stopped. I suspect the reaming tool that was used to chamber the barrel was meeting its end or wasn't sharp. That probably left ridges and/or a burr from machining. If Springfield isn't going to do anything, I suggest you take it to a gunsmith and get the chamber polished.

[@onemansworld5498]

Thanks for the comment. quite inventive solution you had there. check out part 2 of my video on this. the link is in the upper right hand corner of part 1 for the last 90 seconds or so of the vid

[@Rubeless]

I am dealing with a new 9mm EMP 4 CCC that has issues. Light primer strikes and ftfeed mostly. Sent it back, I’ll skip the poor customer service part, they replaced the slide and barrel. That made the issue worse. Every other round was a light primer strike. I read the older EMPs had these issues, but assumed they had it figured out by now. It’s been back at Springfield again for over a week and I have not heard from them yet. They seem like it’s no big deal that a $1200 pistol performs worse than a hi point.

[@greggaines253]

I'm laughing about these anti Springfield comments. I've owned everything from Olympic Arms to Daniel Defense. My Springfield Saint Edge is flawless. My brothers Saint is flawless. The M1A is still the same battle tested rifle, along with the Springfield 1911 pistol. I have seen all makes fail at some point or another. Most are operator error, and then like this guy, you get a factory defect.

[@mattbrown8931]

just had the EXACT same issue with my saint i just purchased. had NO idea what the hell was going on, and after watching your videos didn't want to have the same problem with their customer service, so i decided to pay to have a professional diagnose it so instead of having Springfield try and tell me what was wrong, instead i could be the one to tell them what was wrong with my rifle to get it taken care of as quick and easy as possible. when the gunsmith looked at it, he couldn't find any issues and it shot and cycled through PERFECT. pissed off, i went down to the armory to show him what was happening, and of course it worked perfect. i noticed he was using a different brand of ammo, so i grabbed a box of mine (along with the gun i purchased a 1000 round ammo can). turns out, the saint can be VERY picky with the ammo. your problem isn't with the gun, it's with the ammo. i promise. i was using Armscor ammo (which i've heard from a few people it's a steel case rather than brass, but haven't found anywhere other than word of mouth that says that). tried everything i could to FORCE it to have the same issue with multiple other brands, and could not get it to have any problem. i even loaded up a magazine with various brands and tried both cycling through and shooting, and every time without fail it would jam up on the Armscor round. i was with you on that it HAD to be the gun, and was a little disappointed actually when i found out it wasn't. try other brans, and steer far as you can away from steel casing, only brass. i would agree though, customer service was TERRIBLE every time i called to talk to someone.

[@keithwhisman]

It happens sometimes with rounds that aren’t in spec. While pressing down on the charging handle slam the buttstock on the ground. You don’t have to do very hard. The rifle won’t go off. I’ve had problems like this with pretty much all of my rifles. It’s not a Springfield issue but a ammo quality control issue.

[@mattdizzle]

Thanks for this info. The advice you gave me helped me unjam my saint. Was shooting blem rounds. Never again. Thank you. 🙏

[@youngson6005]

nope happened to me too. still fighting them. I couldn't get my go gauge in either and they still said it wasn't their fail.

[@Schooner622]

This may have already been said, but I have had several AR barrels stick when new like that. It is usually caused by poor QC when deburring. Try polishing the chamber or struggle through some rounds until it smooths out.

[@spencerskewes9370]

I just got my saint victor and I’m having problems with the gas system. The casing only ejects about 1 foot and kinda flops out. Couldn’t get through 2 magazines and had 7 malfunctions

[@rugrt1]

I have one and when I got it the empty flag was jammed in so hard I had to use cleaning rod to drive it out Then stripped rifle down all the way to include BCG and cleaned throughly Found small slivers of orange flag shaved off and in locking lugs of barrel and bolt Reassembled with frog lube CLP and fired 500 rds no issue 1st time out then 500 2nd time out I have had issues with my colt 6920 and windham until they had 1000 rds Everything needs to be cleaned when new and then fired - all work great now after 500 rds each

[@New2Kendo]

you need to slam the stock down as you pull on the charging handle, also typically you want to run your rear sight as far back on the rail as possible. looks like the chamber is out of spec, you need to go to a gunsmith and have them head space it.

[@onemansworld5498]

Thanks for the comment. Watch the second video. link in top right corner for the last minute of video 1 The gun is at springfield.

[@New2Kendo]

sorry to see your having such a problem with it, I have been building and working on AR's for over 10 years it looks to me like the chamber is out of spec, there is no way they put 20 rounds through that barrel, they are full of it. Good luck, I hope they replace it for you,

[@onemansworld5498]

Thanks New2Kendo, You know I've been thinking about it. Mind you I'm just a shooter not a gunsmith or expert by any means, but I took the upper off and dripped a couple rounds in to the chamber before I even sent it in.(I didn't say this in my vids guess I forgot.) but you know both rounds I dropped in the chamber (the same rounds that got jammed) and the went in just fine. so I new it was something else. not sure exactly what. maybe the bcg not aligned with the chamber is what my gut said.

[@New2Kendo]

you can put rounds in the chamber by hand, that would mean its a carrier or bolt issue. Not being able to see it or get a good look at it, its hard to say. It could the cam pin, cam pin channel, or bolt that are out of spec. Hopefully they get back to you soon, I am interested in hearing what they found to be the issue

[@donnhickman5330]

if you took the bolt arm to do a virgin clean and oil, did you line up the bolt at the 10pm position----- looking back on the assembled bolt, and/or------ did you accidentally line up the rings on the bolt when you rubbed it with all take care

[@SCSUguy85]

Mr. Fix It Austin thank you for sharing this video. I am a fan of Springfield arms as well. I was considering looking into buying this rifle, but after your mini series on the Saint and research I have done on company pre-built AR rifles, its starting to look like the better route is to just build my own system with quality parts that I like and are reliable from various AR platforms. Because you are right this fail is too costly for such a new weapon.

[@onemansworld5498]

Thanks for watching the "mini series". Good luck on your build. let me know how it turns out

[@ryb6449]

This issue just happened to me today, put about 7-8 rounds through it. Now it won't release the cartridge, not sure if there is a live round or spent casing still in the barrel. This is my first AR. I do not feel safe with this AR especially coming from a reputable company. How exactly did you word the problem with Springfield?

[@onemansworld5498]

check out videos 2 and 3. the links are in the top corner in the last 20 seconds of this video. i talk about everything I did with Springfield.

[@armondogoodson4872]

Mines is currently doing this. What should I do?

[@fonzybrookestone727]

My Saint Edge did this today! First time shooting it, got 90 rounds through it, then this jam happened. 3 times at the range, then took it home and cleaned everything. Tried again, jammed on 4th round. Not sure what I'll do next.

[@mengh78]

Mine never have problem.. Just shot it yesterday and zero in at 50 yards. Monarch and Federal ammo. shot well. what did you do to your rifle?

[@onemansworld5498]

the answer is in video part 3

[@Freightorious]

did the stazi enter to check the serials and mess with it?

[@1DRIPSTER]

Where did u get that mag well holder rest for the gun vise. Mine didn't come with that part, just the red rest to lay the forearm down on.

[@robertsnodgrass2139]

Why did you try to put another shell in it When the first one didn’t close properly in the chamber.

[@Ellie_and_Coco]

amen on that statement for sure. the first time I sent the gun in Steven called me saying they fixed the problem by polishing the feed ramp and the chamber. when I got the gun back it didn't even look like they touched it and it is still doing the same thing not to mention when I got it back the castle nut on the buffer tube was loose and I had to restake that as well.

[@jasonchuculate524]

Sorry to hear about your problem even the best companies have bad ones slip through the cracks I really hope they take care of you fast and friendly I've had mine for about 2 years now without any issues eats up everything without one failure absolutely love it

[@dkaramichos]

My SA Victor 300blk 9" has had nothing but problems since I bought it in January 2021. failure to fire, failure to feed, non cycling... with all sorts of ammo.

[@brianvierra-gonzalez7465]

just had the exact same problem with my m&p sport 2. it was doing it every round. Took it back to where I purchased the rifle and they took a look at it and found the feed ramp in the upper on the left side was higher than the right side. they swapped out the upper with another m&p and it fixed the problem

[@onemansworld5498]

Right one glad they worked it out for you Brian

[@mattstephens6137]

hey man, Ive experienced the EXACT same thing, and the EXACT same problems with jamming etc...as you have. All the way from jamming at the range, to shipping the gun to Springfield, and i just got it back today. Anyways, my Invoice, unsurprisingly looks exactly like yours does. I'm already bummed and I havent even shot it yet to see if its been repaired correctly. heading to the range now, and i really hope they fixed it. Not much confidence in Springfield after watching this video. thanks for the upload and i look forward to letting you know my results tonight. One question, has any progress been made on your situation? please let me know. thanks man. hope to hear back.

[@onemansworld5498]

I have two videos attached to the end of this video that show the progress. sorry to hear about yours

[@dwallace1112]

What Ammo did you try to fire that day??? Steel Lacquer?

[@K4SWX]

Just got the Saint Victor pistol had this happen first time I used it after several rounds. After a minute or so I was able to force the bolt back ejecting the round. Hasn't happened since.

[@Tool-Meister]

Wow. I'm so sorry you had this trouble. I've nothing but good expereinces with my nine Springfield Armory products I own, including the free-floating version of the Saint. I've used no less than 10 different brands and configs of 5.56 and .223 including standard 55gr, 62 gr. Green Tip, soft-nose, and even hollow-points. All told about 1,000 rounds so far, without a mis-feed, mis-fire, or ejection failure. I've only taken modest cleaning thought the 1000 rounds, cleaning carefully several times during the 1st hundred rounds, and then only a barrel swab about every 250 rounds after that. Tore down at 1000 rounds and cleaned house stem to stern. Still works great. My condolences. I hope Springfield Armory service management reads these comments and corrects their procedures and customer engagement for the Saint products.

[@chrisedwards8697]

I got aSaint a few months ago 0 issues put about 500 rounds through it solid rifle

[@hannibalirrizary5535]

Sounds like you need a "go/no go gauge" to determine head space of your gun.

[@chouyi007]

That was the responsibility of Springfield to check headspace before they sold the gun.

[@keithwhisman]

Not the issue here. The cartridge is out of spec and is stuck to the chamber walls. A quick buttstock slam to the ground while pressing the charging handle rearward will dislodge that cartridge.

[@Mr1T2X1]

Likely fat ammo. Mortar it out, disassemble the upper and check the chamber fit with the ammo and other ammo. Go-no-go Gaige on the ammo will tell the story as well.

[@matthewbradbury5898]

exact same problem with mine after having about 500 rounds through it. I've never had any rifle do this EVER. This is a manufacturer defect that I guarantee many other people have had and we just either haven't heard of or who haven't come forward. I had to hammer mine out with a cleaning rod. broke the first rod, got the second to dislodge it.

[@FolkFirearmsCollective]

I carry the AR-15 variant for work and have employed them for over a decade as a member of a SWAT team. The only AR variants I own, will own, trust, purchase or carry are the following: COLT, LMT, Daniel Defense, KAC, BCM. That is it. I have owned many, and my work gun is a Colt with over 30,000 rounds total through it so far.

[@gerrywashack9373]

I would throw FN in that mix also. I personally use a BCM.

[@KeystoneTexan]

Gerry Washack what about RockRiver?

[@ZIGMAN775]

Windham Weaponry Old bushmaster people before freedom group with a new face.

[@thehourshower]

That's just ridiculous

[@jshaw1503]

Forgot armalite

[@ChrisC-ue6li]

Brass shavings and brass dust getting wedged around and behind the bolt face ejector pin and spring. Had same issue on a different make AR. Brass fowling of the ejector was somehow allowing the round to fire slightly out of battery causing the case to expand during the beginning of the ejection cycle. This would wedge the empty case very tightly in the chamber while partly extracted. I always had to hammer the empty case out of the chamber. I thought I had a out of spec chamber size. I read about this symptom on a forum with this fix. Sure enough my ejector pin was fouled with brass inside the bolt. Clean it and address what is scrapping the brass. I had no more issues after that.

[@chipyT49]

same thing just happened to mine on the first round. went out shooting with some friends to show it off and just got embarrassed. its my first AR too so i thought i went BIG on getting a springfield for my first and after reading all the comments i dont even want to deal with the customer service. should i send it back? or try sending it somewhere else?

[@LuiiefourtwoO]

I just purchased a 300 blackout saint victor SBR and have similar issues main problem that I’m having is the next round not being chambered and also gets stuck

[@jjwatt5126]

Had this same issue with a S.W MP. The problem was that I was pulling the charging handle back slowly and releasing it slowly. This would cause the charging handle to become stuck like yours and the round would stay resting inside. I learned to rack back and let it slam shut as the gun was intended to do. Haven’t had any problems so nice then.

[@stevepreston8350]

I have several pistols and shotguns but have never owned or shot an AR15, but I am in the market for one. I was at the gun store yesterday and the salesman was showing me the Springfield Saint. He said he had shot one and it was nice, but then he was trying to sell me one. How does one decide what is a good brand/model to get?

[@onemansworld5498]

buy PROVEN quality. watch reviews like this one. and weigh it out. that's what I do. I could recommend a few but budget is important. my best recommendation is a Colt 6920. $1000 and the quality and reliability are their. high end great AR Danial Defense. m4 v11 or v7. low end but still good. s&w or ruger

[@LS-ux7kc]

You need to get a bore hone, it's just a tight chamber, you can extract the stuck round by putting a block of wood on your charging handle and tapping it with a hammer

[@jacksprat2304]

Have another bolt to try in there?

[@onemansworld5498]

Thanks for watching check out part 2. the gun is back at the factory.

[@jacksprat2304]

Mr. Fix It Austin Yeah, I am watching part 2 now. I am curious to find out what's out of spec. (Before they get their hands on it).

[@RazedByWolvesWI]

My PSA upper was doing the same thing (FTF) although I could still work the charging handle and it cycled perfectly without a magazine. Shipped it back and they replaced the BCG, works great now.

[@DHunter52171]

So nobody at Springfield test fired this thing before shipping? What a shame!

[@marcotucker3431]

This happened to me at the range with my Daniel defense, I KZbind the issue and mortar the rifle. Was back shooting in 3 mins. Never happened again.

[@jtowensr]

First you can take that upper off by undoing both pins and pulling it off from the lower remove the live round and send it back for warranty repair. you tried 6 different ammo manufactures, after the second try you should of sent it back. It sounds like a bur or something on the feed ramp chamber area. I have a Saint Edge and it works fine.

[@rainbowking1825]

Hey I just bought a saint and took it out today and loaded my first round did the same exact thing! I’m pretty bummed out about it and hope I can figure something out.

[@robbiejk9613]

Wow, never heard of this happening. My Saint has about 2500 rounds through it and is a SWEET AR. Might want to stick to some good ammo.

[@doapSauce]

If it wont eat steel it doesnt deserve brass. Mine saint is trash too

[@douglastillman9559]

Definitely not a fluke. Bad jamming issues on the victor ar pistol. I’d like to know what Springfield did for you.

[@esteotroblog]

I have that same rifle, and never had any issues. Last week I bought the Victor Pistol, and I have the same issue as you. It jammed on the first mag.

[@tomasg5348]

My victor pistol does the same right out the box what did they do for you and did it fix it?

[@esteotroblog]

@@tomasg5348 I sent it back for warranty. Got it back like a month after. They didn’t told me what was wrong, but they fixed it. I’ve put 1k+ rounds so far and hasn’t jammed after the warranty.

[@snurd4788]

I'm not sure it's the firearm. While it could be, I have reason to doubt. I had almost the exact same thing happen to me with a Ruger SR556E. Within the first 5-10 rounds through the gun, I had a major jam just like the one you have here. It had nothing to do with the rifle. It was an ammunition problem. Once I was able to get the round out, it ran flawlessly. I've never had that issue again, and I've had around 1000 rounds or so through it.

[@onemansworld5498]

+Tracy C I hear ya. But I put 6 different brands of ammo in it and they all did the same thing. watch video part 2 where I explain that. SR556E Nice gun!

[@snurd4788]

Mr. Fix It Austin Probably the gun then. That's too bad. I bet they will make it right though.

[@curtismcallister9569]

i saw this exact same failure at the range a couple weekends back. it was a "new" saint victor, but the woman who brought it out said she got it on a deal because it was a tester gun. great gun when it shoots, but every few rounds it would double feed, stovepipe, or fail to go all the way into battery. and that was even after its owner field stripped it and cleaned there at the range

[@curtismcallister9569]

@Ricky Johnson i wouldn't say it's the best made, just based on reliability. after that experience with the tester gun, i decided to keep saving and got a bren 2 instead. and after a year now i still haven't seen any issues with it. in the mean time there are years of forum posts on the saint victor's ammo sensitivity or just plain bad reliability.

[@davidmw08]

I have a Saint Edge, purchased in 2019. I am having the exact same problem. Have shot 2 different types of ammo through it and malfunction after malfunction. The same thing as you - bolt carrier will not come back, round stuck in the chamber. have to do the same as you - take the magazine out and pry the bolt carrier back with a screw driver or something.

[@roncedad7032]

I just got 556 ar pistol from em, mine did the same and has massive ejection issues, tried multiple ammo need to call tomorrow

[@tomasg5348]

What did they do any luck?

[@jimeastridge2345]

did you use reloads in rifle?

[@HelplessReply]

Weird, what's the forward assist button do? Ever Hit it forward to seat the BCG? or did you just push it like it's a magic button? LoL.

[@angrychivafan]

Did you fix the problem?

[@TheJedi270]

I would remove the buffer tube and back the bolt out that way. Don't do it with the screwdriver.

[@jiveturkey2875]

Looks like you left your charging handle back when you hit your bolt release. Which can cause that type of jam. Seen it done a few times during my time in the military, which is why you'll hear responses to "mortar" or "slam" it to the deck. Its happened before. The bcg shouldn't sling your handle forward, just leads to problems. I may be wrong but thats my 2cents.

[@NoPro1962]

That sucks I know everyone says well mines never had a prolb.with that being said Mine has run flawless Never an issue thousands of rounds.Sounds like yours got past QC.What really Sucks is the way Springfield Handled it .It happened to me on a Shield PC 45 S&W they were in denial after second time getting it back finally functioned properly then I sold it.Feel for you Man Nothing worst Thanks for showing how different CS on these diff. Company’s go Hopefully they Hook you up in a timely manner let them know you have a You T. channel seems to work for me.🇺🇸🍻🤜🏻

[@TVisTheRetina]

Did you leave your car keys inside the gun? TV remote control?

[@stevenneumeier6767]

I recently bought a Saint Victor and it did the same thing to me at the range, once. I fired a total of 270 rounds, 250 of .223 and 20 of 5.56. After about 200 rounds, a live round jammed in the chamber and became stuck, just like in this video. I'm new to ARs and asked the range officer what I should do, and he told me to slam the butt of the stock while pulling the charging handle. It came out and I didn't have that particular problem again. I also had to use the forward-assist multiple times to chamber a round after pressing the bolt release. Here's the thing though, I didn't clean & lube the rifle before using it, which is definitely my fault. I only made sure that the bore was clear. That BCG needs to be heavily oiled! Also, I was using reloaded commercial ammo from Ventura Munitions. Ventura Munitions is great, but perhaps it was just an out of spec round? Unfortunately I can't try to replicate the problem now, because the range is closed because of the pandemic. However, it seems like Springfield isn't the only manufacturer to have this happen to. Someone mentioned S&W, Colt and even Daniel Defense.

[@josephdixon1688]

Yep! I’ve had the same exact thing happen to my Saint Victor at the range! I could not pull the charging handle back! And it won’t shoot steel cased Tula (5.56) for nothing. I had to stop losing steel cased Tula at the range.

[@davidlarue2492]

That sucks bro, the saint victor runs real nice.

[@JSTAR585]

Hey guy have you heard or the mortar technique?

[@tylergillespie1250]

If anyone else is having this issue, I bought a Saint victor and had the same exact problem, I changed out bolt carriers and it worked flawlessly, cycled some rounds through it then put the Saint bolt back in and was still tight, then I switched to a metal mag and it fed better. After about 30 rounds my gun works flawlessly

[@DreamSProductionCo.]

which one you get?

[@MrChuckwagon55]

My friend had that same problem on his AR (not a Saint). His forward assist was faulty and was always engaged so he couldn't rack it back. So we had to remove the roll pin for the forward assist and remove it. We replaced the forward assist and now it's 100%.

[@patriotone755]

Very isolated according to you. Won’t deter me from buying this rifle. I have read no other negative reviews. What’s your follow up? Did they correct the issue?

[@CitizenSoldier500]

does the bolt rotate freely in the bolt carrier?

[@e.stolberg5703]

My gun is doing the same thing! I'm starting ti think there may be too much pressure on the extractor spring and o ring because it is tearing the casings up around the primer

[@clydewatts8991]

No you are not the only one that is having this problem, purchased this same gun and it jams or will not eject on at least every third or fourth round. thought that I was the only person with this problem. will contact Springfield and see what they will do.

[@tomasg5348]

What did they do? Any luck?

[@seanryan1675]

Neck isn't crimped. I had the same issue with Freedom Munitions. Necks were not crimped and were getting pinched in the barrel bore. That's why it wasn't fully seating and had a hell of a time getting it back out. I switched to crimped ammo and haven't had an issue since.

[@ironhorse8573]

I'm having a problem with my safety selector doesn't want to move. I've tried everything to taking off the handgrip.

[@bad550me]

had same issue with the saint and a ruger MPR turned out to be out of spec reloads exactly same issue measured rounds they were to big would not even fit in chamber

[@growlikethewind5788]

I had same problem with ruger ar556 apparently it's a common malfunction in the ar platform, retired Marine at range had me slam buttstock on table while pulling charging handle and the round came out.

[@dallashayre3083]

This jam just happened to my new saint. Pulled on the charging handle and bumped the stock on the floor. Cleared it right up, haven’t actually shot it yet hopefully this just need to be broken in.

[@brasidas33]

Sounds like a quality control miss: tolerance stack issue. Springfield should take it back and supply you a new one.

[@brianlivingston415]

That problem happened to me. First mag completed with my new saint. A major malfunction! I remembered seeing this video field fixed and continued firing without any more malfunctions. I fired a total of 500 rounds without the slightest malfunction after the first mag.

[@diyshawn3028]

check your cam pin. Make sure it is turned so it cant come out and pull bolt head forward.

[@romeoechofoxtrot18]

Totally convinced that this guy is a first time AR15 owner and is not familiar with this rifle and how to clear it when it fails

[@pilotoo2007]

Factory ammo or reloads?

[@joshsprouse2253]

Had the same problem with my saint edge...sent it back to Springfield took them 2 months to send back and when I got it back it still didn’t work...trying to get my money back now

[@concjn2]

A buddy and I bought the same gun on the same day, took them both out for the first time together after cleaning and oiling. Different ammunition on both guns (.223 on mine and 556 on his) and we both had multiple malfunctions similar to what he is describing.

[@ChadA23]

Bought mine the day it came out, and mine has been flawless for around 1,500 rounds. Sorry you had a Lemon. Also possible you had some bad ammo.

[@kassiecrummie759]

I just purchased the saint victor and the very first round did the same and twice after. The only ammo that will go through without issue is Hornady.

[@DavidMendez-lv6st]

When I took my CMMG out for the first time (first time ever using one) the first bullet jammed. Good thing there was a experience shooter on the range. He told me to kick start the firearm and showed me how to do it. That was the last time i had that issue. He showed me how to charge my firearm correctly. Friendly people in Wisconsin.