Part 1- Godless Women, Sexual liberation, Breaking down the home and Why men love influencers

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[@sadiapsychology]

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[@imranmiah5753]

Sadia you can’t blame all guys because of them pimp type men’s behaviour and mindset

[@lifewith.giselle]

women often prey on women who have been viewed as vulnerable, paying others off with sexual favors.

[@lifewith.giselle]

You dress like Kim K. She was the start of sex trafficking.

[@lifewith.giselle]

you only view women who have an education as worthy. who are you to determine who is worthy?

[@lifewith.giselle]

education is also being paid by women who have had to sleep with another for your scholarship.

[@Saya-rz4hi]

It's very clear who does understand psychology and who doesn't. The other girl is very very privileged and can't see the position of vulnerable women or girls. Blaming only the girls is the absolute wrong way. We need more people like Sadia who breaks down the real issues without blaming women or men and instead blaming this whole structure.

[@williamwallace410]

Actually, for someone always saying she is anti-feminist, Sadia is spouting a lot of feminist ideology. Always portraying women as the angels and eternal victims. Never holding women accountable for their actions. She is of course right that women are influenced by immoral culture. But I agree that the other woman is right, that women have always been the ones responsible for gatekeeping sex. She says women need to be accountable. And it is all about upbringing. Who is to blame the drug addicts or the drug dealers?

[@kinndah2519]

@@williamwallace410 OK so what are you blaming? You want to acknowledge what Sadia said isn't true? Women are finding more and more men not worthy of committing themselves to, and they don't care what those men think about it. Just like many men these days don't want to become better men for wives and families.

[@williamwallace410]

@@kinndah2519 I already said, what I wanted to say, she never holds women accountable for their "own" actions. You are even worse than she is. Read your comment to me... it is pure feminist poison. There is nothing wrong with most men. You are right, women deem more and more men unworthy, but that's not because of men, but because of toxic inflated and deluded feminist egos. It's because they value men for the wrong, unrealistic superficial standards. You can't all expect millionaires... and even in that case, then women would find millionaires unworthy and only want billionaires. Men of today are doing what they need to do, just as men in the past. But the same can't be said about women of today. Actually today it's the men who are finding more and more women not worthy of committing themselves to in marriage as a result. As you said, women don't care what men think about it. Who wants that as a wife?!?

[@sylviasuwan4735]

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[@jessicagoodall1458]

The other lady is also assuming that vulnerable young people accessing Instagram and becoming influencers are the minority of these people, they're not. Most people on Instagram are seeking attention they don't need if they had a healthy soul. Where does unhealthy souls come from, trauma

[@samahsheikh3743]

Sadia said something really powerful here. When you dont have God and your house is not stable, the society becomes your God. The laws determine your morality and the quicker they get you to believe God dosnt exist and the law is your sense of morality, the quicker they control you.

[@chrissyp9003]

Why does anyone need god to have morals? You don’t know what’s wrong to do to someone else without micromanagement or fear or punishment?

[@FeminineElegancebyRoz]

And it is evident in today's society. I absolutely and totally 100% agree 💋

[@chrissyp9003]

@@meriemyas people around the world and throughout time have disagreed about who or what god is, but many of them had what I am sure you’d agree are relatively upstanding morals. Have you read about all of the gods and found the common seeds of truth among their teachings? Have you read about the history of philosophy regarding ethics? Or are you basing your understanding of morality on a cursory read of the thoughts of one teacher or group of people? God lives inside every single one of us, so the answers can be found within yourself. And if you are reaching externally, a comprehensive study and analysis of ethics, as well as comparative religion, would be a good place to start.

[@chrissyp9003]

@@meriemyas May I ask what about my reply made you defensive and feel the need to say why you responded?

[@chrissyp9003]

@@meriemyas what do you suggest that I study? I already mentioned comparative religion and ethics, as well as philosophy. Comparative religion takes a great deal of study. Are you okay? Breathe. Quiet your mind. Then you’ll realize God is inside of you. You ask if God told me he’s inside of me? Absolutely, but Christ said it. Buddha certainly did. Sufi Muslims and all current and past Abrahamic religions say it. Hindus believe that. People experience God directly all of the time. Haven’t you heard of a religious experience? If you want to be Abrahamic, the Holy Spirit? I never said there isn’t one God. I actually believe that too. I believe all truly spiritual people who do seek truth understand that God manifests as the truth in every spiritual tradition and every human being on this earth. Everything you see is God, but we won’t even go there. All religions and creeds contain the same spiritual truths if you look hard enough. I was just contesting your “one” god who is the sole moral authority without question. Which God are you referring to in that case?

[@dynishaabreu4544]

Any person who identifies that both men and women need to be good is wise. Sadia is the wisest among them all❤

[@stacyjohnson9685]

Yep BOTH genders LOYAL TO ONE PERSON AND NOT HAVING SEX UNLESS ITS FOR FAMILY AND COMMITMENT!

[@jljryoung]

My daughter is a 24 year old American putting herself through college. She was working and her manager said, if you wear short skirts you will make more money. She quit the next day. Yes, woman have a choice. First, know the difference between right and wrong then, do the right thing.

[@IndigoInfantry]

Same with abortion, women need to learn to keep their legs closed outside of when they want kids.

[@nelsonoluyemi9169]

Thank you for your insightful response - "women have a choice"

[@caseylynn5976]

Unfortunately, no, ALL women do not have that choice. Some don't have the same options available to them as your daughter for example. Many wouldn't have had the _luxury_ of choosing to up & quit like that. Why? Well, here's a scenario for you: Single mom Sara lives one day to the next financially, works as a waitress. No friends or family. She has a disabled child with severe behavioral problems (but it'll be several years before doctors diagnose that). So at this point everybody just labels the kid as "bad" & blames her parenting. The child has been booted from virtually every daycare in town, so, Sara pays an old lady she knows to babysit, let's call her Patty. It's obvious Patty is growing weary & more fed up each day. She will not babysit a single minute more than their agreed upon 25 hours a week. And Sara understands; she truly feels bad about burdening Patty in her old age & is incredibly grateful for her help. But she also knows if she loses her as a babysitter that she will lose her job & be faced with homelessness. What's more, is she's working under the table. Opinions aside, she does this because without government assistance she'd have to choose between food, rent, and her child's medical care. Because if she got paid on the books she'd all but lose the medical insurance, and lose the food stamps altogether. To top it off, her pay wouldn't even cover the loss! Why would she put herself in the hole? (And no, she can't just work more hours-remember there's no more childcare available). Under the table jobs aren't everywhere, either, so she can't just go get another one & wouldn't have the funds to survive until then anyway (and again, no childcare). She has nobody to even babysit for an interview. If you think it couldn't be any worse...well, there's more to that story, it's much worse... but I think I made my point. The choice your daughter was able to make, (and I assume, survive the outcome of), may absolutely destroy the life of another woman. Not only her life...but the consequences of her making the same choice could affect the safety, wellbeing, and even the literal survival, of someone else...like her child. Not so much of a choice when you look at it that way, is it??

[@IndigoInfantry]

@@caseylynn5976 women have the choice to not do the things that cause problems. You just want to absolve women of their responsibility

[@dripmal7469]

​@@caseylynn5976she still has a choice, I was in a very bad situation when I was 18 and I still had a choice I was poor, homeless and alone, still had a choice

[@jumpa654]

It's on both the men and women. ''Tell the believing Men to lower their gaze and guard their modesty.......and tell the believing Women to lower their gaze and guard their modesty''

[@thedecentcow]

Exactly. Women shouldn't observe hijab for the sake of men. And men shouldn't observe hijab for the sake of women. Our duty of observing hijab is for the sake of Allah swt alone. In the last few hundred years, many men seem to have lost the sense in this and have ran with the narrative that women should dress modestly for their sake 😒

[@SWOTHDRA]

That hadith is not sahi.....men have never lowered their gaze, not in war and not normal, the prophet gazed into the eyes of the wife of his adooted son, and allah ordained her to him. Allah knows best , you feminist try everything

[@SWOTHDRA]

​@@thedecentcowshow me where in koran does it say that???

[@dragonfly5334]

Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and guard their modesty. That is purer for them, verily Allah is All-Aware of what they do. 24:30 So God is a feminist trying it according to you?

[@jumpa654]

@@dragonfly5334 God is the Creator of the Universe and everything in it. God knows what is Best for us, and has laid out rules for us to follow, for both men and women. God isn't a feminist, or red pill or black pill or whatever joke term we have nowadays.

[@eattoliveveganstyle65]

Yes, it’s very clear that Sadia understands a lot more than the other girl due to her psychology degree. The other girl sounds privileged and extremely judgmental. She doesn’t seem to understand that some girls fall into traps, especially if they have come from a traumatic background. She has to understand that not everyone maybe as fortunate as her.

[@theEpicxY]

BuuuUuuuT they have BrAiNssSsss. acting like grooming/conditioning, low self worth arent contributing factors. sur ethey know its wrong, maybe they even despise themselves for doing it but its a type of "comfort zone" that they dont know how to exit. Sadia is VERY smart

[@DTreatz]

sadia is a grifter who doesn't make any sense tf you talkin about 🤣

[@YasminYoruba]

Absolutely

[@YasminYoruba]

@@DTreatzthat word is thrown around far too much. Do you even know what it means?

[@YasminYoruba]

@suits334 they really can’t otherwise everyone would go and get that. Only 30% of the population goes to University the rest are normally international students.

[@barbarascolaro2013]

Because that girl is "honest" does not mean she's right, cuz she is NOT! Asking "influencers" to stop their posts is silly to handle men??? Sadia YOU are SPOT ON!

[@lolorii3110]

😂 yeah and her "message " to the girls out there was soo deep and meaningful

[@shamalatif3088]

We need more role models like Sadia. Takes a lot of courage to speak against the masses. This is a very powerful podcast, points made are relevant and need to be highlighted more.

[@zensleep2321]

Sadia has not only far more knowledge but more compassion as well. We as society need to stop this i “blame the other gender”. women need to respect their bodies and man need to stop giving the motivation (money) for women do this. Is simple as that.

[@justimani4]

Exactly once the men stop dangling insane amounts of money for prostitution the girls will naturally stop falling for these traps and influencer lifestyle.

[@Mousettii]

I'm English and in my early 50s. I completely agree with Sadia. I was brought up with the same morals. Hopefully society will wake up and get back to basics x

[@shalinikhan9541]

Sadia has truly expressed her views so eloquently. Love her intellect and respect her so much..❤ beautiful woman may Allah bless her

[@Anonymous-vk9bf]

She is saying” do you die screaming like a little girl or do you die with dignity” it is sooo apparent that this woman never faced hardship and doesn’t know the real definition of vulnerability. When the choice is be homeless and starve she is one of the many who would naturally take any and every deal available in front of her.

[@ZukMyZik]

And how many women are homeless and starving compared men? You’re acting like it’s either sex work or the streets when it isn’t that. Sex work is short cut and most of those women don’t want to work hard to be successful so they chose a short key away. They just didn’t want normals jobs they rather do something that’s easy and gets them paid. Not a single only fans girl was going to be homeless or starve if she didn’t do that 😂😂😂 you’re a clown for that 🤡

[@TrollMeister_]

I only discovered Sadia a couple of days ago. She is articulate, she is bang on point…and boy is she beautiful.

[@cutiepiea3687]

Heavy on the last part I’ve been obsessed ever since I came across her on insta!

[@Netwrk72]

lol have you seen the homeless woman with makeup ? sadia wears 5 tubs of makeup each day plus her face is very unsymmetrical which is unattractive its the hair

[@GGxPrinceAli94]

We need more alpha omega divine feminine queens like Sadia

[@lizh1970]

What a clown the word alpha comes from the translation of aleph into Greek alpha . What delusional clown believes they are a god , many and that's a problem !

[@voidwalker9223]

can we stop putting these random Statuses on someone whos highly educated confident. Shes not a Tier 1 Sigma Omega stage 7 God shes a person who is attractive and took her time to educate herself...jesus christ the internet is cringe

[@johnong2655]

@@voidwalker9223 it's also cringy seeing how she behave here vs how she usually was on other podcasts

[@lifesshort9524]

such a simpy statement

[@SWOTHDRA]

She is nothing but manipulative semi attractive female, nothing special here

[@mariavelasco6629]

There’s issues on both sides. Period. You cannot place the blame on just men or just women. Also, society as a whole is a slave to their phones, social media, internet. There are so many factors at play.

[@enceladus4900]

ur first point is debatable,as there is some degree of blame and accountability that should take place. agree with the second point,we're all slaves to our enviorement and society as a whole,which is a problem as it tends to drift towards hedonism and degeneracy, this is why religion is important,as it provides a structure to follow and regulate our actions. for that reason the middle east is still standing strong in the face of our modern world issues and self identity crisis and tries to push back degeneracy. sad to see those with weak faith falling victim tho due to social media and it's influence and amplification of their desires.

[@thelemurofmadagascar9183]

Exactly. I'm sick of this childish modern discourse of pointing fingers and always blaming only one party as though the world is black and white. Anyone who engages in promiscuity, whether male or female is to blame for contributing to societal decay. Evil begets evil, so whether it's a man paying for OF, or a woman making OF content, both of them are responsible for making evil run rampant, full stop.

[@azskinsfanhttr3494]

@@enceladus4900 I agree. However, there is such a divide on which religion is superior that it complicates things. I believe being 'spiritual' at ones core is essential and helps define ones values and morals.

[@MySimDied]

I feel like you can put the blame on men. And I'm not really much of a feminist. But the root of the change in society all comes from men and also there is so much mixed messaging from men. We need to have lower body counts. We also need to be having sex with "average" guys (who typically fall below the average american in height, weight, earnings and looks but that's another story) while somehow maintaining said low body count. We also seem to take the blame for social media, internet and phones which were all things that were invented by men and targeted at women by men to make money from us. Onlyfans is a male invention that is funded almost solely by men. But women are to blame if they take the choice that is presented to them to earn 4x more in a day than their male owned company would pay them over a year. Basically men always controlled society and they've lost control of it. But that's on them not women. They keep voting in politicians who focus on money over values simply because most American men seem to be a little bit racist and it's ruined society for all of us. Look at Trump, he did nothing for the majority of people in the country and yet all the men are going to go out and vote for him a second time because it's seemingly more important to them that we build a wall to keep out needy Mexican people than have our bills reduced. Men are even directly responsible for feminism. Yet rather than look at themselves and the mistakes that they keep making they focus on girls doing things they don't like on instagram. Guys get more angry about a woman saying something mean on instagram than they do a male serial killer. Women are expected to be perfect and make the right choice every single time and we're expected to accept crappy behavior from men as standard. Western guys on the whole used to be strong and dependable but now they're insecure and weak. And they really need to get it together and stop blaming everyone but themselves.

[@AussieAmigan]

@@azskinsfanhttr3494Any religion that practices traditional values in society is a net positive, I don't care which. I'm not saying the women should be stoned, but some degree of shame should be cast, especially when they promote and brag about their deeds. I'm not religious, but what we have in society today is a perversion, that goes against basic human biological needs, all in the name of feminism. Men gave women the power to choose and more than evened the playing field in ALL vocations and educational pursuits, and yet these women chose to sell themselves on OF, being too stupid to understand the consequences of this choice on themselves, let alone society as a whole.

[@michaelminney7102]

Seeing Sadia off guard turning into a 15 year old school girl screaming uncontrollably after seeing Andrew Tate. Seriously..

[@Butterflieslove2]

Yes👀👀👀

[@jdfreedomlover]

You're right. While both sides are culpable, supply always follows demand.

[@tobybuckwheat9270]

We are a middle income home with 6 biological children. I am a stay at home Mom. My older children are 22 & 20 yr old Males and 18 yr old daughter they are all stunningly good looking and they are all virgins. I raised them not to waste their time dating if marriage wasn't an option. What amazes me is how many of their per's tease them about their virginity. They are told that it is ridiculous to not "test drive" their potential spouse. I am very proud of my children and their strength. I was raised in a broken home with a very hard worker Mom. I was also raised as a luke warm protestant, taught God wants us to feel good/happy so if it feels good do it no matter what it is. When I became Roman Catholic and learned the true teaching of God it changed my world and I made the choice to raise my children with value

[@PiyushJoshi-f6l]

God bless you.....always....

[@nelsonoluyemi9169]

Thumbs up to you The outcome you chose is what one gets when one elects to be accountable instead of playing the victim and blaming men and circumstances for ones life's outcomes

[@AussieAmigan]

However you got there, I applaud you. I am that thankful that my wife of 15 years was more religious than me as this informed her life.

[@TrealTalk187]

I appreciate you but I did want to let you know that boys and girls NEED to be raised totally differently to each other especially if in the same household. Your boys will have a terrible dating life in the future and probably are right at this moment unless they themselves can find virigin girls around there age but look around at the women today, thats incredible rare. It might be doing your boys a huge disservice by not letting them be masculine, I don't mean for them to sleep around necessarily but they have Act and Behave as men in 2024 and beyond. I speak from experience in my own family and friends and only hope for the best in your family. I hope they have a masculine father or father figure who can show them which girls to put time into and which not too. I dont mean to affend you but this is real life and men and women live different lives entirely, especially when it comes to dating. Your daughter is set up for success which is great and any man would take her even if she gets older, but your boys, im sure if they were honest, are going thru hell in real time everyday because you can never understand a young man's life. Im only trying to help honestly but I hope your boys actually make it and are able to discern for themselves which to deal and not deal with because with the women of today its not looking good for them unfortunately

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

I’m from the USA 🇺🇸 and most young women I know are in school , doing internships or working . They are normal people. These channels think all women wake up every morning to engage in “ immoral behavior “ 24/7 . It’s just not true

[@krissysherrell6625]

Thank you. I just don’t understand how people get stuck in their own box so much.

[@nightkingxx]

Doesn't matter, a guy needs to fit in 6666 category to stand a chance. That's the norm for most women.

[@amorepsyche808]

Same in EU never heard any of my friends doing OF

[@poizen-ivy]

​@@nightkingxxYou need some worldly life experience. Your generalisations are telling.

[@nightkingxx]

@@poizen-ivy U are delusional. Everyone knows what i said is true. Stats back it up. IRL experiences of many men attest to this fact.

[@Juicyfruitsbythesun]

Sadia is so well spoken. I love her podcasts

[@leahhensley229]

I really enjoyed this talk, thank you so much. Andrew is right about what the real question is. The family is the base of society.

[@bodhi9464]

thank you sadia; we need more ladies like you in society . god bless you . 🇦🇺❤️☮️

[@leoonthetube177]

Lubna has less experience of the world and human nature and her education on the subject is limited. Sadia is an experienced life coach and psychology teacher - her understanding is very in depth and she is not just opinionated but sincerely trying to bring men & women together. Lubna has a black & white inflexible view of life - she’s not someone who can compromise with human nature - she should stick to her investigative journalism - sadia please keep advocating for a more just and balanced society

[@It_was_all_a_dream]

💯💯 Lubna talks like someone who lives in a small bubble

[@TomRocket-zo3hf]

Sadia Khan is not a muslimah. She is a ruthless gold digger and an apostate. She idol worships bad boy millionaires the likes of the tate brothers, whilst demonstrating a sugar coated contempt for the average, hard working guy. This is haram. Also, she has been called out many times for being a gold digger and she does not deny it. She even does not deny being a total coconut. She is NOT a suitable role model for genuinely sincere muslim women.

[@Foxie770]

Lynn’s just knows how to repeat propaganda and slogans!

[@aishah3062]

True💯

[@Elman_Baku]

Oh come on. You are on the side of Sadia simply because she thinks men are responsible for making women promiscuous. You need to look ok at the bigger picture and understand that women are accountable and they have a choice. Don't try to be tolerant towards women who are easily achievable and call it so called vulnerable

[@stevehuang2612]

The hypocrisy of Tate is unreal - he’s shitting n commenting on the very women that he’s profiting from with his webcam business

[@tiberio1352]

what kind of business is it??

[@anabelsanchez4605]

His webcam business was years ago. He is a different person now. He shut it down ages ago. But good you brought it up.

[@stevehuang2612]

@@anabelsanchez4605 nice try. I wonder what his most recent arrest in Romania was about?

[@eLion27]

I bet you sound like a decently reasonable human being in your own head. Smh.

[@crystalkissoon2136]

Sadia we need more women like you

[@thelistener8357]

I have just came across Sadia’s video and now i have become her fan as she make many good points and she is clingy to her religion which is beautiful

[@TZWWoods]

After watching Sadia, I want to learn psychology. Love her statements.

[@ISBE91]

Don't get fooled by this, it's not that easy 😊

[@robertschiller5422]

do not bet to learn this at a University. I have a uni degree in Psychology. you do not learn this there.

[@azskinsfanhttr3494]

@@robertschiller5422 Correct, but it is a foundation to build on. The degree it self is not the end game.

[@enigma5627]

I don't think she's an actual psychologist although that's what she claims. I agree with a lot of what she says but she doesn't seem to have the credentials which imply some level of fraud.

[@AussieAmigan]

"I want to learn psychology". God help us. Just what the world needs, another woke AF feminist who blames all men for the actions and choices women make.

[@rosevan17]

We are giving that elite 1% too much credit. It's always "them" trying to do things to make us behave in a certain way. We all need to take more accountability for our own actions, because "they" wont accomplish those certain things if behave in a certain way. Keep free will for all, but choose what is best and most authentic to you. I loved your perspective on this Sadia! I agree that man should also be accountable and have some values and decorum with the woman they choose. Thanks for sharing ☺️

[@ZukMyZik]

Men are always accountable. If he’s fat plays video games all day, he’s a loser and won’t get women. While women if they’re fat, it’s body positivity and they are covers of magazines. If a man cheats he’s disgusting. If a women cheats, she was unsatisfied or unhappy. If a man chooses a dead beat women as a mother of his kids. He should’ve choose better, if a women dates a dead beat father or a bad boy, he’s the problem… see the pattern. It’s on both genders I get that but social or women always blame men. It’s why Andrew Tate said “it’s always the men’s fault” in the beginning.

[@SamahMakawy]

I'm with Sadia. She understands more. Also as a good girl, why i would accept a man how won't mind pay an all fan and no one blame him! We deserve mature good men too.

[@abshalomfarrow7061]

"Psychological colonialism They think that the world should think like they think." That's so true!

[@KingNigelthegreat]

dont put that in my head. spit into my head? wake up . cant believe you said that sht

[@blinkie1114]

Sadia is not only intelligent but also so beautiful and feminine. I’m so happy to have discovered her, she’s such a great role model!

[@andreacosta1597]

You can tell a lot by what society has become when you have someone like Sadia with such a deep message having 223.000 subs, while influencers shaking their all ass ets having millions and millions...

[@ISBE91]

It tells me there are a lot of people with ADHD

[@andrewbryant6495]

Why has Sadia completely overlooked the fact that he paid his workers to go on camera, and admitted to cutting their keyboards off and taking control with the keyboards unknowingly when they weren’t making him nearly as much money?

[@mysticveile]

I was enjoying the conversation between the two ladies, so refreshing to hear educated intelligent women talk about important issues. But Andrew Tate coming in just took the conversation to another level. Love it! Thanks for this, I've got some mulling over to do now. I agree with all of them, if that's possible.

[@pardeepsangha6897]

Thank you for voicing my opinions Sadia...agree 100% with you Sadia. Finally someone says the things you say. Thank you.

[@scottlavale1502]

Sadia ..... i tell you with alll the respect in the world. Your points are valid to the point that if life was about legacy and being on the high ground in who does what and what does feel good. Existence isn't about morality, that is a human construct. Life is about experience. Your narrative excludes wisdom earned by experience. Here you are talking about women and how they could do this , should do that .. if they only knew. Nobody starts life with a perfect template to create this life you speak of. Some people are poor some are rich ...some have 2 parents and some don't ....some 2 parents are awful and some are great .. some have 1 parent and are awful and some are great. It seems like your going on a war against duality.... there will NEVER EVER be a time where there is no contrast. People of this planet want to experience everything there is to experience. You think in terms of humanity and how humans can aspire to greatness trough 1 narrative. You , yourself didn't become who you are by doing 100% of the right things the right time.... If you did , you wouldn't need to come live on this planet. The universe doesn't think in human terms it thinks it consciousness terms... in energy ... in vibration ....in frequency. You are a being of energy....not a human trying to create this eutopic lets all walk in a straight line planet. Think about it, when was the last time you though you had figured it all out and BAM something chaotic random happened to send you out of control. Life isn't about you controlling everything....trying to make this planet perfect ... the planet works wonders with chaos. Human only seek control to avoid pain....some people love adventure .. love excitement .. love the unknown ... love chaos. Should we get rid or reform them all into your narrative? This isn't your view versus other peoples views .. its about your views alone .... you generate the emotions inside yourself and manage them as they come. If your way of thinking makes you want to make other think like you. Most people don't understand or have never seen a human that's well balanced. When people see people take alcool, drugs , have wild sex or being free... it's always people that have had issues in their lives. What does a calibrated well in his heart and mind human look like. IT's not about women taking their power or men taking their power... its about experiencing it all until we grow out of it. Only fans didn't exist 10 years ago.... there were millions of strip clubs, where were all the women advocating for them then? Prostitution is a thousands of year old profession..... if there's a need there will be a way to fulfill that need. Your not pro women or pro men ... your anti humanism....portraying it as you want people to be their best version. How can anyone be their best versions if they don't go through struggles ... go through pain ... You talk about women being happier with kids and hubans .... that's not true at all. They have struggles too... its not like your way of doing it excludes struggles or pain... anyone going down that path isn't exempt from wondering if they did the right choice ...was it worth it. One other thing, you talk about family and how your growing a legacy. If you were to do a family tree checkup on your family history.... out of 10 generations back. How many misfits , rule breakers , craziness , criminals ..etc.. do you think you would find in your lineage? Chaos creates the wanting for structure and too much structure creates a desire for chaos.... humans have the ability to be chaotic or balanced. Jugement is what keeps this world stuck in a stagnate place where if you did this or that you arent redeemable unless society deems it soo. Who CARES what society thinks ...society also wont go to your funeral and even if they did ... would they for the reasons you would want them too. how many people on this planet will die and have other people genuinely heartbroken that you are gone. I think that yo are doing all this from a kind heart, but you seem to lack the sight of the big picture of things. To affirm to many things and you ask too few questions. I know you will get there ...this is a journey for you as much as for the viewers to watch you. They will see you change your views as you go along with this career. In conclusion, this planet is at a crossroads with finding out who we are as humans ... our origins... our purpose ...why we are the way we are ...how can we create a sane place for us to explore our highest joy... highest purpose. We have been lied to by the government , by science ...by so many organizations that want to control and focus on money and power. This power dynamic is changing... women are doing all these things NOW....but in the future...some of these women will understand things and be role models for the new coming women. Women who have a lot of experience are able to teach... those who have the porcelain doll life can preach and talk about how to live and whats better for them. But the next generation of women will be tough by those who lived fully and tranmuted their experiences into wisdom. These times of oppression are coming to a end for men and women.... we well get to become sovereign and figure it all out for ourselves.

[@Lyu-Phy]

Profound comment. Its this dualistic thinking (left and right, right or wrong) and shaming that does no good at the end of the day, in fact when everything is part of a greater one. Nonduality, Wholeness is the answer. Just enjoy life to its fullest in the moment, now.

[@Chan-kj4bi]

Sadia literally almost jumped out her seat and couldn’t control herself when Tate walks n the room. Had her fixing her hair screaming with excitement. Even a top tier psychologist couldn’t control her excited body language. Just shows you when u are Alpha how women behave. Her interest in Tate has to be a 10. Smart move by Tate to walk in unexpected to find out her true interest level through her sudden expression

[@bradnichol6166]

she was a little too excited, which has me thinking she is a phony at some level

[@tiberio1352]

....sort of a rushed statement...but, has some truth to it.

[@bradnichol6166]

@@tiberio1352 I think she has good information but is also playing the game

[@caaanyoudigit]

It’s called playing with his balls, you know, stroking his ego. Lol

[@eLion27]

I'm sure her husband appreciated her reaction to Tate's entrance.😄

[@alessandrodilallo6567]

It's clear that we really need more people like you discussing and trying to open eyes about these topics to both younger generations but also older ones...

[@jakubcichowicz5475]

This conversation is very important for people of the younger generation. The girls told the whole truth considering social media. This truth is needed, but it is told in terms of results. Of course, people meet and may not be compatible with each other. But after this conversation, and what Sadia says in the podcasts, it appears that if we are to pair up and connect, we need to get to know each other, i.e. surround ourselves with each other, and only then indicate our expectations

[@AlfredoIglesias-fv9ge]

Lubna speaks with the most moral sense, Tate is devious he actually helps deflower society he is more like the people of the Matrix and Savia look at her body language before and after Tate enters the room. Tate did not shake the hosts hand very telling but shook the ladies hands??????

[@MadihaIram-kx7lj]

this, is so far, the most unbiased and logical discussion to approach such issues....its finally relieving to see that all povs are being represented equally and debated in order to look for a solution rather than just complaining... as an 18 year old girl, i am truly inspired by sadia💗

[@sadiapsychology]

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[@christiancatalano2269]

The curse of Adam and Eve of good and evil is in all of us the curse of the human race we are beastly our carnal broken nature we are fallen we bend to do the things of the flesh cause we are lead by our emotions our heart which the Lord said is deceitful and wicked Jeremiah 17 wicked and it's divine law that we now need to come back by the holy spirit to know God who is God Christ the head in you not in the sky we have spirits in us good and evil according to you beliefs faith ect...That control the ego which is the devil working who does not want anyone being saved bless your lost souls

[@tiberio1352]

jajaja....never gonna happen :))

[@johnong2655]

@@christiancatalano2269 makes sense from a Christian perspective. Unless they recognize the carnal flesh needs to be put to death. Without God's wisdom, Intellectual people will still fall prey to the worldly intelligence. It's very tempting. I soon realized after how Sadia responded, it wasn't like her at all when she started leaning towards Tate

[@christiancatalano2269]

@@tiberio1352 Cause the devil is who just said through you it's never going to happen another spirit cause his influence you to stay the way you are his the God from this world that Christ said in Romans 8:7 His at war with your carnal mind your fallen nature that won't subject to the law of God Christ..The love of man will never satisfied your soul there fallen and women Satan keeps people like this his the master of it deception 🙏😈

[@DaniLaliba-hv3pn]

እወድሻለሁ ኦሊቢአ

[@valentinaflorez309]

completely agree with Sadia, she is a very intelligent woman with experience. The other girl speaks without empathy and from the position of privilege

[@tiberio1352]

how so??....even Sadia's words...are just opinions.

[@husnishamri4793]

oh my god. This is one of the most respectful discussion rounds on this platform about man-woman dynamic. As compared to podcast discussion that just shame one or another and trigger one another that bring nothing other than more division and negativity 😊 thank you for this

[@lauraalozie3196]

Just love Sadia & her level of intelligence ❤

[@TomRocket-zo3hf]

Sadia Khan is not a muslimah. She is a ruthless gold digger and an apostate. She idol worships bad boy millionaires the likes of the tate brothers, whilst demonstrating a sugar coated contempt for the average, hard working guy. This is haram. Also, she has been called out many times for being a gold digger and she does not deny it. She even does not deny being a total coconut. She is NOT a suitable role model for genuinely sincere muslim women.

[@MichealGou-tw9og]

Yes her intelligence is something else

[@TomRocket-zo3hf]

@@MichealGou-tw9og - yes, when it comes to being a narcissist, psychopath and gold digger. She gives 'relationship advice' yet she got divorced after only 3 weeks of marriage. She has also had cheek implants and cosmetic surgery. What a total hypocrite!.

[@foysollee750]

​@@TomRocket-zo3hf- wow sounds like someone so bitter obsessed with her personal life. Why you stalking her? And no she's not divorcing 3 weeks 😅😂😅 You're definitely one strange creepy guy

[@YourDoctorUSA]

I like one thing about Andrew , he is very respectful to women when he is in front of them

[@quelliana]

Sadia, you are too knowledgeable and intelligent to be on a conversation with these people. Please make sure your value matches the values of those you are having this type of conversations with. If you want a sustainable presence online, which I think you really deserve, be careful about who you are anchoring your name with.

[@JA-xq6eq]

Sadia is too smart for this room. The other 3 are simpletons

[@tiberio1352]

...include yourself in that case....SIMP.

[@lindarose8781]

I don't think blaming one gender over the other is beneficial in this conversation, nor blaming one culture over another. The issues stem from rapid growth of social media/apps like Tinder and Insta, accessibility, demand, social norms, and a big shift in social values. It's a global phenomenon and we need tactics to tackle it. No blaming or shaming anyone, just a collective approach to creating alternatives.

[@christinarichie6171]

It's an agenda driven from the top..it didn't just happen organically and its boils down to destroying the fabric of society and especially families. Less breeding as well..

[@ZukMyZik]

No we do need shame back… just not blame for every gender. We need shame women for their bad choices in diet, being onlyfans or pornstars not support it. And women for choosing to have kids with a bad boy then being shocked he left. Same with men who make bad choices

[@KingNigelthegreat]

its mine. a big shift in go ahead friend for you is the good test. world thinks Oh we just rob people. this is Iblis out there. Im gonna hit him so hard hes gonna do "im a martyr!" LOLOLL OL

[@JustineKiskaBusiness]

I do not agree with the lady who suggests that it is the women who need to make a change, Men and Women need to make a change. let's look at it objectively - as an example: if activists want to stop Animal cruelty, who are they going to? They are going to us the consumers because we are consuming meat, they are not going to the farmers and telling the farms to stop producing so much meat and have society go into a food crisis. In the same way it is the consumers that are the problem here for they are purchasing the content and by purchasing something you are now creating a market, Men are creating an only Fans market for they are buying content, women are creating content. It is a Societal Issue. Its not one Gender.

[@robercikcreative]

Love Sadia's sudden change in body langauge when tate comes in 🙈

[@SheenSwat]

Both can not be stopped. We just have to make the inspiration available for sensibility so that there is at least some hope

[@scatainternet]

Great show guys and great subject. I’ve just watched the video . Time doesn’t exist so it’s not a late comment:) . It’s nice to see where you all come from, and regardless of each one’s opinion, it’s easy to see that you are all having in mind a higher good for everyone and I love that. @Sadia, I love how you so easily throw light to old paradigms which no longer have room in this reality and so much more. The host is great , first time I see him. Andrew 😊. @Lubna, first time I see you . Deep and powerfull , I love the way you think and we are on the same page on this subject . It all comes down to the golden rule aplied to oneself : “Treat YOURSELF and others as you would want to be treated by them” - you don’t need ANY education to know that you treat yourself badly , NO METTER your situation. You ALWAYS know it in your soul and you are always CHOOSING ( conciously or unconciously) your next move. The power is ONLY yours , so never blame anyone. And if you know you should stop , just stop . And forgive yourself 100% for treating yourself badly. Renew. If you treat yourself badly, the universe will pay you synchronistically with men who are treating themselves badly (because they have to pay for attention or nudity) . The demand for these kind of services will always be there through men who are treating themselves and others badly. But YOU ARE your universe so it ALL starts with you for you ( as a woman or a man, you have all the power and responsability) . It is the man’s job to take care of himself and others ( by being totally onest with himself he will atract FREE nudity if he wants, and genuine -not fake- connections ) AND it is the woman’s job to take care of herself and others ( by being totally honest and really taking care of herself, she will be “paid” with different circumstances and with her kind of man without selling her soul and she will have all the help, attention and admiration witch will be the real trully fulfilling one. What is the use to pay or to be paid with money for nudity and fake connection if you KNOW in your soul that this is not fulfilling? ⌛️

[@petrplihal9999]

About the family unit Andrew is mentionning: A very important fact no to underestimate is that the family unit builds warriors (meaning : a warrior's mindset) if the children are raised correctly. Every member of the family unit with a strong family value will de facto defend their family from harm of threats. As in contrario, individualists are simply easy preys most of the time. Andrew get near this fact. By saying that destroying the family unit make people become individualists which are very easy to control & enslave. One example to consider : At every war, rulers always motivate citizens to join their armies by telling them that they will fight to protect their family & land. This since every war in history. If ruler would tell them that it's for anything else, citizen would not fight. So there is to be understood how the family institution is powerful. The family is also one of the top three instances of control (the two others are school (education & spirituality). That's why the state controls both & royalists managed to quickly get the control of religion. A warrior mindset brings honor & valor to a man's conduct!

[@PiyushJoshi-f6l]

A very good experience...listening to all of you... thanks a lot... both the ladies.... I would like to listen Sadiya and Andrew once again on a different podcast.

[@brittexbubbles9236]

Amen to all of this. Thank you to everyone involved in this conversation and for sharing with the masses. This is so important

[@IndigoHazelnut]

I think that trying to pinpoint which gender is to blame for women monetizing their bodies on the Internet is like asking 'which came first, the chicken or the egg?' I do agree with Sadia.. The responsibility is on both genders (not just one or the other).. Because it is a societal problem constructed from both

[@thelemurofmadagascar9183]

100%. Immoral men create immoral women, and immoral women create immoral men. It goes both ways, and it's a waste of time trying to blame only one side.

[@dominicmesserly7489]

I"m a white, Christian male from a small town in Ohio, USA, and I think this is a great discussion. Thanks.

[@AussieAmigan]

Not all women can be influencers. I bet a lot of so called "influencers" don't make much money at all. Just as only the top 1% of OF models are getting rich, with the rest are ruining their lives for little to no compensation.

[@SelmaBaitiche-sg4fy]

I have a mad respect and appreciation for Sadia 🥰God bless her

[@FabiolaBustamanteA]

LUBIN DOESNT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS SOCIETY IS BROKEN

[@thedrasc1465]

Her entire take was as tone deaf as Kim Kardashian telling people to get off their asses and work

[@chrystalva5818]

Those two women are next level precious. They hopefully become strong influencers

[@insights3140]

I agree the culture teaches young women this is the path to liberation and when they feel like it or when they find the right one (which they have no preparation for) they can get married and have the traditional life…but by then the men who want to marry do not want these women. Men are just as accepting of “all women” tropes as well. When I was young I had significant social pressure from my “friends” saying if I didn’t lose my virginity soon I’d become a prude. You can’t win either way. We need better parenting.

[@tinepotocnik777]

Just avoid social media. Dont use it. Problem solved. People like to make things complicated. They dont see the bigger picture, the ying and yang of it. Its like no one likes peace in their hurt. What a strange world we live in.

[@timnitfisseha]

we need more women like you ladies. Thank you Sadia.

[@kirskirs2219]

A thousand blessings for Sadia, such a beautiful soul ❤

[@leoonthetube177]

Lubna would be a difficult wife to live with - she’s combative and her mind is set - you can tell there’s no room for growth in her stance and opinions - the solution she poses is harsh

[@the_specialista6319]

She would be a difficult wife? That means you're not an alpha male 😂😂😂😂😂

[@CenkHoca]

​@@the_specialista6319and you are? If a girl is not submissive the alpha will just walk away...

[@shareena786]

I agree and I’m a woman

[@ZukMyZik]

Usually the truth is harsh

[@spaceghostcoast2coast614]

The Woman on the right knows Her stuff hardcore but acts so humble about it. Her husband is living the dream. I know what this feels like 🙏🏼💕

[@dennisfabian2570]

She doesn’t have a partner, which leaves me a bit questioning

[@spaceghostcoast2coast614]

@@dennisfabian2570 yeah, that's a huge 🚩

[@laurenmedina1937]

SADIA YOURE A QUEEN!!!!! these people are so intimidated by her and you can tell

[@tiberio1352]

why is she a queen?....who is intimidated by her?

[@chanell5457]

Did you see her being interviewed by Pearl? Pearl resorted to the mean girl persona and showed her jealousy 😂😂 Sadia is a Goddess. I aspire to grow up to be like her 😁

[@valerie_d]

Shes as stunning as sheis smart. Its triggering for ppl

[@kristycaminero4653]

Sadia is so right !! She is the only intelligent one here, please don’t stop making videos 🙏

[@DA22-w1o]

Sadia sounded all smart like usual until Andrew came in then she lost it completely, started by touching her hair

[@amorepsyche808]

Survival Mode is a BIG word, this is the problem in this planet. We are all in survival mode

[@deanvanlaarhoven1413]

The other girl said: " It's on us". That is fabulous accountability!!!! 💯 Sadia you are reverting back to a woman's frame of mind.

[@thelemurofmadagascar9183]

You're saying that like it's a bad thing for a woman to have a woman's frame of mind . . . what is that even supposed to mean?

[@pennykaringa3380]

Religion also plays a huge role, because even a good Christian girl in Miami will behave differently

[@audodonald]

I think there are role models but they’re not on social media man and not “out there”. I have an MBA, am happily married to a very masculine and have 4 grown children. I think I’m a good female role model but my social media is locked down and I have no interest in being attacked for being more traditional so I just mind my own business. Of course, I’m NOT an Instagram model at 57 either but I do take care of myself and exercise. The only opinion I truly care about when it comes to my appearance is my husband’s opinion.

[@sir-ali1163]

"I am a strong, independent woman. What can you offer me?" "My Condolences"

[@mariyanabranzburg8320]

Great contex ... its absolutely the problem i was facing . Because of that "fun" girls, a good girls cant find intrested boys. They r too demanding. The dating world indeed Changed the last decade and its not getting easier to find a decent man who wants to build a home and start a family when he can be free all his life

[@ardiandemolli5845]

build a home spend ur life for it and what? one day wife say oh im boring i want you out of everything make a false case and man is f... so why to do that tell me 1 reson and 1 way how me as man im protected from that to happend to me can u tell me ppls

[@okeogheneibagere4154]

Just watched this and all I can say is sadia is amazingly intelligent... beautiful to watch ❤ she got so many things SPOT ON!! These things are societal issues for a reason and the e society comprises of male and females. There must be a lapse in the behavioral patterns of both sides for it to be a societal issue. Where there is a demand for the women to do better( which is agreeable), there is also a need for men to do better and be more accountable. No side should carry the greater percentage of blame. And I love when she said they were overestimating the individual and underestimating the environment!!! She took the words right out of my mouth❤

[@shadiasiroha]

Andrew tate he himself go out there with those type of girls and here he is blaming the society!

[@marielocascio2099]

He's a hypocrite profiting from porn and manipulating and coercing young women to commodify their bodies for money.

[@slavenskiduh1519]

So whats so unconcieveable that a person realizes that he is societaly manipulated?

[@mustafadheyab6513]

This is what they call it co-op with the situation Unfortunately, this is the society that we live in these days So he can’t live on another planet Don’t talk about something you don’t know

[@souzanemou834]

Avoiding blame on a specific gender is more constructive; understanding the societal, political, and psychological factors behind certain behaviors is key. Sadia, the essence lies in pride and dignity.lubna is correct on this.. it's important to note that labeling this as a cultural issue and associating it with a different country may not be accurate or fair, your perspective might be influenced by the specific environment you experienced, many from the mentioned country in Dubai will not be visible in your surroundings, and one's style, can reveal influence from "influencers" and Identifying someone willing to seize the first opportunity to save herself in moments of vulnerability is quite clear. Psychologists adopting the guise of a typical influencer's appearance is skillfully done, Sadia. While there may be more psychology-savvy women, they should fully use all aspects of feminine bull in this social media era. Unfortunately, I haven't observed any social analysis from the journalist or psychological insights from the psychologist in this podcast.

[@Ayobussa]

Sadia and Tate is a great conversation, they should have there own podcast

[@iqmian4160]

They should get married

[@Psalm_23]

@@iqmian4160 her father wouldnt allow that also isnt she engaged?

[@iqmian4160]

@@Psalm_23 why is she 16 yrs old? What does her father got to do with anything?

[@Psalm_23]

@iqmian4160 you don't understand Islamic or Pakistani culture for that matter. Go research and see what happens when they wanna be western woman.

[@ip3931]

Sadia, you shocked me but I think you're right.

[@clarabruselas8444]

The girl who´s not Sadia is just a pick me girl. i agree women need to value themselves more and all this OF culture is crap, but she also needs to accept men are also at fault for this. her excuse is, let´s accept it, men are never going to change, like they are somehow retarded. we all need to be held accountable and expect better from ourselves.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Men never hold themselves accountable

[@yobro6053]

You underestimate the simp in men, these times have shown that men can't control themselves. It's easy to say just don't support only fans bro , and that guy already spent a grand on used socks . It's literally over for society i cant see it ever improving , if there is ever a generation after our time who look at us they'll blame the Simps for destroying everything.

[@nightkingxx]

Most men will not accept a woman with a high number of previous partners and who maintains contact with her exes. Do you expect us to stay silent and accept you as you are, while you maintain your double standards for your own convenience?

[@clarabruselas8444]

@@nightkingxx I expect men to not ask to date a virgin when they aren’t, imor to not expect women to have slept with one man or none while they’ve been around the block. Or maybe that they stop trashing women they lust over. Funny how i said we both need to be held accountable and you took from that “🥴do you expect us to stay silent and accept you as you are?” Lol, no. Stop bi&$ing

[@poizen-ivy]

@@nightkingxx Your insecurity is screaming in this comment.

[@afroempiretv]

I do not think they are listening to Sadia's point at all. Sadia is brilliant and very articulate. Love her.

[@bethdarling9402]

I love these conversations - remember though you are speaking about a very small and select culture - it’s just very visible on the black mirrors.

[@nadeaosmand784]

All the speakers actually agree on the same thing. But Lubna has a stronger stance that women should be the one to break the supply chain. Her argument was "men won't stop looking at bikinis". Well, I would say "women won't stop posting bikinis". She said to women "don't be a victim", then I'd say to men "don't be a prey". Sound like we have that infamous "egg and chicken" debate, because to me, if she thinks that women should be wise to stop first, why can't men be the wiser and do the same? I'm not sure why is she so hung up on women to take first step when traditionally, its men who are supposed to be the leader, the alpha. So in the end, it's best to say that everyone, both men and women have a role to play and responsibility to bear.

[@sukhsangha5274]

Sadia and andrew....wat a vibe!

[@michaelkuhn3488]

True Love, is probably 1/ million where both man and woman love and care about each other equally. An outsider can see it at a glance, they only have eyes for each other and no one friend or foe could ever tear them apart .Being apart is agony, being together is pure joy. He would gladly give up his life to save hers, and she would do the same for him. In my 74 years I have only met one couple like that. And I have met a lot of people!

[@Terrence696]

Sadia and Candice Owens i pray i live long to see that 😊

[@finnjuniperdenaro]

Sadia Khan you've helped me turn even further towards my self (my more empowered/empowering path). From the bottom of my heart I thank you. alhamdulillah 🙏

[@Elsa-dp2jo]

I was waiting for this conversation for such a long time!!!!😊

[@shiwanaLS]

Sadia thinks to the core, the cause of the situation. Other girl is blaming just girls yes those girls are wrong but men who are liking their bikini posts are worse than them.. and are really promoting, normalising this behaviour.

[@bogdagt]

In some cultures it is extremely disrespectful to shake someone's hand while sitting! In Sadia's defense I saw that she was about to get off the chair to greet Andrew but seeing no one is getting up, she just stayed where she is. In the old times, a woman would always get up to greet the man entering the house and the man would always take care of the women in his household.

[@pashaj92]

Oppressive culture vs Humiliation culture. Good point Sadia. 9:14

[@kiranbassi5469]

I like how Sadia puts her point across and makes so much sense. She is not blaming either men or women. The other lady just seems like a pick me to be honest.. oh well.

[@bob77137]

I am totally with Andrew on this and thank you for saying it so clearly! All the way from Eastern Europe, I believe in God and in family values. We stand up and stay up against all evil together, until we bring old values back and create a society with even more loving families!

[@sammyadam8132]

Saidia and Lubna, I am very proud of my sisters, Allah bless your parents. Al hamdullilah for Islam

[@saradigota7201]

I loved all of Sadia Khans episodes véry much!!Full circle!! Exactly answering all my questions revolving around all the topics being discussed. These things were waáy to long unanswered and they made a lot of money and confusion and homewreck of it.

[@katjamiranda7138]

i think we ( women & men) are the society and its 50/50. Both sides have their responsibility..society development follows often where the moneys is. Sadias Point is important.. very nice, respectful group..I am from Europe and like to listen to different views..

[@roxywahab205]

I absolutely love Lubna she is so on point! 💜 However, I note in this video and others that Sadia seems to makes all sorts of excuses for women to be promiscuous. Maybe it's because it's how she sees things are acceptable.. And that's ok but she should try and think about the young girls listening and have some consideration. I also noted how excited, squeaky in her voice and girlish she went uncontrollably when Andrew Tate walked in unexpected. It shows her true self without being conscious.

[@Nicolacupcake]

Omg I saw that too, I felt she wasn’t really letting Lubna speak

[@KingPhill87]

100% agree. Paraphrasing, "Oh, pimps are investing more in their prostitutes nowadays, buying Chanel bags, so there is less motivation for a young girl to be that traditional girl".... Maybe you were always a bit of a ho #shrug

[@feminine_muse5665]

She's not making excuses its just human nature if there's a cause there's an effect.

[@AlfredoIglesias-fv9ge]

Absolutely spot on saw like me

[@Sassy387]

She is not excusing anyone but trying to point out the base for the behaviour. Women are humans ,they have needs and would pick a shorter way that pays off when desperate.... There are men asking for it and willing to invest. Demand comes first.