I will be writing consecutively from Drills 1 - 60, follow along with me! Pen: Vintage Pilot Minuet Ink: Pelikan 4001 Turquoise Paper: Kalomakeart.com paper pad
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@theresedignard42673 жыл бұрын
When we learned this method in second grade at Catholic School I remember doing WEEKS of the line and circle drills. The nuns said it helps to connect the mind, eyes and hand. Lines need to be tighter and an infinite number of pages of tight loops and tight strokes before even one letter is done. Then pages and pages of one letter before moving to the next one. New letters added and ones mastered honed more. We spent an entire half year doing drills before moving to formal use of the technique in regular studies. How the pen is held affects the angle of the letters and also helps to reduce tiring of the muscles in the hand. Also angles the nib to the page correctly by using the actual Palmer hand’s pen position. Poster and the arm to the desk relationship matters. Remembering that SPACE is as essential as the letters themselves. Also Palmer was a stickler for letter hugging the base-line. Being graded helps hone the method. I loved learning this method. It gave me the Foundation to learning every new script/method after it. On occasion, before Covid, I taught private lessons to small groups interested in learning to improve their penmanship. I miss those days. Tails of word endings must always go upwards. No flailing in this method. Discipline was the rule. Though I must say that my grandmother started teaching me Spencerian when I was 5 because I showed passionate interest in it. I think I was born a Scribe by nature, as I learned to print by age 2, and I continue to learn more writing methods/techniques in various languages now. But, Palmer’s method is a Foundation to all those you are presented with. Enjoy the process. Well worth the time. Thanks for the memory revisit. Write on!
@rigvedrane2 жыл бұрын
Monsieur Dignard, Could we talk about how to learn the Spencerian penmanship that you were taught by your grandmother?
@lonniejones72433 жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE METHOD WE LEARNED AND USED IN CATHOLIC SCHOOL
@mrchairman083 жыл бұрын
I also attended Catholic school and the first thing the nuns taught us was how to hold a pen correctly.
@theresedignard42673 жыл бұрын
Totally…..such a loss that Public Schools do not teach this. See my post.
@tinakris7893 Жыл бұрын
That’s beautiful! Thank you for sharing. I don’t know which method to learn and may just learn this one as I am Catholic
@inezrosario22627 күн бұрын
I had that same manual for years. First grade, Catholic school. Those up down slashing exercises were meant to teach you how to use your wrist primarily, fingers were basically helpers. Holding the pen correctly was absolutely crucial. Thimb and forefinger held the pen, middle finger was the glider. I still have some exercises from first grade. 😅
@clarkbilgrav4 жыл бұрын
I learned how to write cursive in grade school using the Palmer method. We were also taught with fountain pens specifically the Sheaffer Student fountain pen. Nice video and thanks for the link to the pdf.
@JoseAlvarez-nk3yr3 жыл бұрын
I have been following your channel for a long time and have learned quite a bit from watching your videos on KZbin. There are a lot of people out there with beautiful handwriting but yours is the best. From the moment I saw your writing, I was completely blown away! I will keep watching your videos because each time I do, I learn something new. Thank you ever so much. JRA 😻👍
@Mateyhv14 жыл бұрын
Just a point, when you talk its a much more enjoyable ASMR. You have a wonderful calm and relaxing voice :-)
@Cacciatore_Raccoglitore4 жыл бұрын
it's true. Your voice is almost hypnotic
@pvrspvrs47818 ай бұрын
In my opinion, you have the most beautiful handwriting among the followers of the Palmer Method. Even considering that you allow movement with your hand, not just with your hand.
@carpetcleaningcairns1196 ай бұрын
I'm impressed by the quality of your content.
@Valam72A10 ай бұрын
Amazing cursive you have !!!!
@michelgolabaigne5953 жыл бұрын
It's so awesome !!! I love and admire people who generously spread their arts. Thank you very much !!! God bless your art and you !!! Michel PS. If you don't believe in God, forgive me for my expression. I just meant nature's intelligence ... :)
@apscafe2 жыл бұрын
Very useful for me and infact for all who want to learn
@classicaldeb4 жыл бұрын
This method was taught to us in elementary school by a lovely lady who popped in now and again. Then in high school Art Class I taught myself Calligraphy with a basic Speedball dip pen kit and bottle of India ink.
@civrn3683 жыл бұрын
Funny first thing we do to 3rd world countries is to teach basics like reading, writing, arithmetic. Here in Canada many kids cannot do these basics with any sort of proficiency. Last time I wrote script on a note it was regarded as some sort of hieroglyph lol. The dumbing down is on purpose.
@everythingforschools-madei32512 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!
@scapegraceuk2 ай бұрын
Are you using your wrist, or the pivotal muscle? Or both? I'm currently working through Tamblyn's course, and I'm struggling with form and movement: especially balancing finger movement with the wrist and entire forearm during this vertical line drill. The photos in the book help a little, but I can't seem to find any videos illustrating everything working together. Do you have any? Maybe showing the full forearm (resting against the desk etc), in relation to the paper, as you write?
@ProximaCentauri884 жыл бұрын
Yey! You're back!
@alancaron9844 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried Clairfontaine ‘French lined’ paper? It has helped me a lot. Writing letters I use onion skin paper over a French lined template.
@嵐影湖光-r9z4 жыл бұрын
Wait, they make paper out of onion skin? xD
@pablonencioni5273 жыл бұрын
Brava !!
@watteau66464 жыл бұрын
I have one of those old Palmer books, but it's not "fancy enough". I prefer doing my "freestyle copperplate" using an oblique pen, Hunt Imperial 0 nib, and black ink!
@agnigoswami49394 жыл бұрын
Thanks ❤️❤️❤️ it was very helpful 😊
@sleepyrhythms66684 жыл бұрын
I really admire your dedication. If you could, mind sharing some tips on learning new letter variations? I'm at the end of The Art of Cursive Penmanship by Michael Sull, and there are a ton of stylized fancy capital letters. It's intimidating to learn them all.
@OpenInkStand4 жыл бұрын
That's a great book! Just try them and pick a few that you like. You don't have to use or memorize them all. Variations are just suggestions.
@romelmadrayart4 ай бұрын
Trying to find a fountain pen to use for the Palmer Method, i prefer a wet consistent pen. i have used the TWISBI ECO which basically fell apart due to the piston mechanism becoming loose. Can you recommend any with consistent ink flow and with a finer nib under $50 USD.
@basiliocrespogarcia-baquer43094 жыл бұрын
Maravilloso.
@Sun-gs6hq2 жыл бұрын
49:20 (to help me write the r)
@rothr5 ай бұрын
looks like any other cursive "r" here, but just had an argument with my wife where she said she learned a different shape of lower case "r" not shown here. I'm confused.
@Sun-gs6hq2 жыл бұрын
39:17 I 18:52 M N 25:45 L
@Sun-gs6hq2 жыл бұрын
55:30 S 59:30 P 59:45 R
@turtlefromthenorth4 жыл бұрын
I now and then sit with similar exercises. I try to get the right curves and connective strokes for the Spencerian writing, but it's not easy. Do you use wrist-hand movement, or do you do the entire arm movement described in these books? I'm trying to get the basic right and haven't even moved on to the business or decorative style. Your writing is very easy flowing and true to the script.
@somerandomperson4673 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that I’m not the only one struggling. How’s the progress so far?
@turtlefromthenorth3 жыл бұрын
@@somerandomperson467 I have improved a bit. The situation hasn't been ideal since I haven't had time to sit down and write a bit on a daily basis. If it's been a while, I have to practise strokes, do some cirles and ovals. Lately I have had too much work on me, but I continue to focus on Spencerian and Copperplate.
@somerandomperson4673 жыл бұрын
@@turtlefromthenorth I don’t know if I’m just slow at learning, but is it normal for it to take a while to get good or decent at Spencerian?
@turtlefromthenorth3 жыл бұрын
@@somerandomperson467 It is normal. It all depends upon the individual and amount of practice. To get the strokes right, slants, slants, ovals, etc. needs regular practice and upkeep. It does`t have to be a lot of time every day, even 5 or 10 minutes make a difference. We are all individuals, some seem to have very even accurate hand movements effortlessly. Decent Spencerian should not be too difficult, but more elaborate versions of it and flawless copperplate is a level up. Spencerian is a flowing, not very demanding style of writing, but it can be more decorative when needed.
@L4v4molly3 жыл бұрын
She's an expert in ornamental penmanship. So she uses what she knows
@gabet0wn2 жыл бұрын
You're drawing the ovals clockwise and then drawing the letters counterclockwise. Do you understand why the ovals are drawn before drawing the letters?
@lxnfaontop Жыл бұрын
how long does it take to learn this way of writing?
@marlocieraad94614 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else have issues with the video and audio not syncing up right and the video being choppy? I have never noticed this in the previous videos of hers that I watched.
@hakanpamuk8424 жыл бұрын
love🥰
@pattywinderman4528 Жыл бұрын
Need Palmer book for 9 year old....not teen or business....I learned with nuns too...Any suggestions????!!!
@Handwriting.Youtuber.NotreDame4 жыл бұрын
So good. Thank you. This is really useful to me. ~ \😃😄/
@wagnerfamily20433 жыл бұрын
I thought Palmer method didn’t use movement in the fingers or wrist but pivots at the forearm.
@mohamednail3823 жыл бұрын
That's true but you do not see as much movement while she does it.. Look at how she glides the hand across
@kayporter6842 Жыл бұрын
Nobody would dare be allowed to use the third finger on the pen. Only thumb, leaning on inside of index finger, with the thumb and index finger tips holding the pen. The third finger was curled with the pen resting against it. If we were sloppy, we had a certain amount of pages of practice at home. Until it looked like the book examples.
@jameslabs14 жыл бұрын
Manic but dedicated
@siddharthadas10404 жыл бұрын
Hi! Just discovered your channel and have instantly become your fan. Am 54, but it is never too late too learn BTW do you have a Twitter account where one can ask questions and clear doubts?
@OpenInkStand4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I do not use Twitter... it's never too late to learn, you can do it!
@alessandrodluffy3 жыл бұрын
Link for PDF file doesn't work anymore, any mirror? Thanks!
@Wastelander134 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! I need to practice. Is that book still awailabke? What paper is it you use here please? Thank you! Stay safe!
@OpenInkStand4 жыл бұрын
You can download the worksheet PDF of here: www.iampeth.com/pdf/palmer-method-business-writing The blank book is made by my friend Kalo: kalomakeart.com/
@Wastelander134 жыл бұрын
@@OpenInkStand Thank you so much! 😀👍
@raymondcregan66074 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@carolmelancon4 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of kindle versions. The photographs of proper position are terrible in the cheapest kindle version but you can look at the PDF online to see the photographs and use the kindle version just to have a reference of the drills and lessons.
@Wastelander134 жыл бұрын
@@carolmelancon Thank you for the information. 👍
@giblo31923 жыл бұрын
Hello, Can I learn the dimensions of the book? I will also print out from the pdf version. Could you measure the book if I would like?
@kimnguyen12273 жыл бұрын
Hi Schin, how do I know when I have practiced the oval drills correctly? I feel like despite doing these drills, my ovals are still crap. Also, it takes me a few revolutions to get it to the oval state that I want. Sometimes it comes out as a circle or wobbly circle then a few revolutions later, I get an oval that I want. Then when I proceed to go make the O capital, the drills seem to have no effect. I get about 30% success rate and I have no idea why. The O at the bottom seem to be pointy. I also find pushing up on ovals with arm movement super difficult.
@mohamednail3823 жыл бұрын
Slow down a bit... the lines were more difficult for me though
@嵐影湖光-r9z4 жыл бұрын
I dunno. The way you write makes me want to speak French. 😂
@faridbanadi61174 жыл бұрын
chère prf comment est ce que l'encre reste sur la plume durant l'ècriture de au moins trois mots; parce que l'encre se termine sur ma plume après écrire seulement deux lettres du mot .. d'autre part est ce que vous pouvez traduire vos leçons en français .. Merci bien
@pagesegovia2026 Жыл бұрын
Remember doing this as a kid with a shitty gel pen ruining all the pages with the ink lol
@Sun-gs6hq2 жыл бұрын
3:02
@Cacciatore_Raccoglitore4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. just a bit ruined by the background noise.(I hope I don't sound rude). Thanks again, bye
@papermoon41293 жыл бұрын
Based on other videos I’ve watched, you aren’t holding your pen correctly…….you are misleading all the beginners…….
@L4v4molly3 жыл бұрын
She's also not using the muscular movement. But she's only doing the drills. Those that study should do as the book says anyway.
@sudir_ebi3 жыл бұрын
@@L4v4molly I always wondered if she writes with her fingers or arm as books says or combo I still can't figure it but her writing is at another level So I keep coming here
@L4v4molly3 жыл бұрын
@@sudir_ebi likewise I wondered. But she does show some wrist movement and then full arm movement for major strokes. You can say she created her own style to her comfort.
@sudir_ebi3 жыл бұрын
@@L4v4molly she writes at God speed too
@L4v4molly3 жыл бұрын
@@sudir_ebi yeah... I'm trying to achieve the beauty and the speed like her.
@user-qv4ni9hd8m2 жыл бұрын
Too far away! Can't see your writing clearly!!!
@charlesmoser77204 жыл бұрын
Can’t argue with results but your fingers should not be moving at all.
@charlesmoser77204 жыл бұрын
And you move the paper, not your arm. Clearly you are fantastic, but would you be on an entirely u touchable level if you used the techniques Palmer recommend?
@OpenInkStand4 жыл бұрын
I think I would use more arm movement if I wasn't using a thick book that was kinda obstructive to my movements..
@kimnguyen12273 жыл бұрын
@@OpenInkStand thank god. I've been struggling with this whole arm movement thing. and find it super difficult with a thicker book. good to know that you can break out when it makes sense.