PART 2 | 22 Bleedmoor | FACTORY AMMO & RIFLE TEST

[@IMPACTSHOOTING]

“Most of you should not be taking kill shots past 400 anyways” 😂😂😂

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@IMPACTSHOOTING truth bombs!

[@danielsmit9205]

Tell them Piet😂

[@Arc-nl7vc]

Excellent video on the 22 Creed I love mine, all I do is shoot steel with it. I have shot it out to 1300 yards so far, going to a mile with it soon I have tried hand loads, Hornady factory ammo, Hendershot and Copper Creek ammo Copper Creek 75 grain ELD-M ammo is phenomenal in my rifle

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@Arc-nl7vc I believe it. Copper Creek makes good stuff!! Thanks for watching!

[@gconnoyer]

Crazy. That factory ammo is great, and being able to use the same zero on a coyote to 600 NO ISSUE is awesome. Obviously its going to vary gun to gun, but that one… crazy

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

I was shocked at how close in zero the two ammo’s ran!

[@johnboucher9259]

Awesome video man

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@johnboucher9259 thanks brother…. Thanks for the comment!

[@Manbunmen65]

It's true about breaking in a new gun. For the first time this year, I did it the right way, testing with a chronograph along the way with factory ammo. I have 100 rounds through my Bergara approach 6.5 prc now. I thought wow when I saw over 3100 fps with 130 grain terminal ascent for the first time. Now it's around 3150 to 3180 fps.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@Manbunmen65 yessir…. It’s like magic!

[@willo7734]

Those are seriously impressive groups, especially with factory ammo and a barrel that isn’t a thick target contour. Everything about the rifle is just cool looking. It’s great that the performance matches the aesthetics. Makes me want to build a short barrel 22 CM! Also I can definitely recommend the 22 GT if you get a chance to try it. You get pretty close to Creedmoor performance with less powder and even less recoil. Mine is a 24 inch barrel though, I wonder how it would run with an 18.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@willo7734 agreed …the GT can do work for sure!!

[@zacharyhouser5017]

you do great videos! keep up the good work!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@zacharyhouser5017 thank you so much for the kind words. And thanks for watching!!!

[@charlesmckinley29]

The original Bleedmore video got me here.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@charlesmckinley29 awesome…thanks for watching the Bleedmoor saga!

[@dkmgm2011]

Been waiting on this follow up.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

Heck yeah! Thanks for watching!!!

[@billyarnold6633]

I've built my own, savage 110 action 26in Shaw barrel 1 in 7 twist trybe chassis, 88gr Hornady 88 gr eldm h1000 powder shoot's in the zeros & ones at 100yds every time

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@billyarnold6633 awesome setup!

[@cdavis0145]

Great video homie!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@cdavis0145 thanks brother!

[@ianwoodward1554]

Another great vid bud, 🤘

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@ianwoodward1554 thank you, good sir!

[@balaton1]

You are at least 2 years ahead of me on 22CM, I have a Horizon Vandal Prime coming to my dealer next week. Alpha brass on the way, 80gr ELDM's on the bench. FYI, JUST TODAY on my HORNADY RELOADING APP, they just released loading data and bought it for .99 cents. They clearly state that this bullet likes Staball 6.5 and H4350, which I have. They list about 12 total powders. The barrel I have will be 22" so I'll start loading at approx 3,150'ish fps.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@balaton1 they’re going to scream!!!

[@Clark8435]

I have the same rifle with a Tract Toric on it and Love it!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@Clark8435 sounds like an awesome setup!

[@carlLackey-qk8sd]

Great stuff, got mine a few days ago and first range trip today. First group .5'' at 100yd with M ammo

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@carlLackey-qk8sd you’re going to love it…. Thing is a shooter!

[@ScottHillbillyStackerRhoton]

I would like to see more info on mounting the ARCA rail, step by step, and the screws used.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

Man, I would love to do that video. Problem is KZbin will shut it down so unfortunately I cannot. Thank you for watching, brother. Wish I could do more stuff like that without negative repercussions.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Does Area 419 offer any setup help maybe on another platform?

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@charlesmckinley29 they post videos on their KZbin page walking through how to install these different items. You should be able to find what you’re looking for there. If not, you can always call them. They’re great about walking people through step-by-step.

[@bradleytyrrell4417]

Nice one mate. I built a 22x47 lapua and I shoot 85.5 gr berger at 3315fps and absolutely love it built off a nesika model t

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@bradleytyrrell4417 that’s an awesome setup!!! I’ll be doing a video on that cartridge in the next few months!

[@bradleytyrrell4417]

@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 sweet thanks man I'll be looking out for that one

[@jaybot7813]

Sweet I've never heard of 22 creadmore!!!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@jaybot7813 awesome. If you watch Part 1 it gives some more origin around how the cartridge came to be. Thanks for watching!

[@rustynut1967]

They were excellent actions especially when they were made in Wylie Tx. I hope they still are.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@rustynut1967 so far so good!

[@kenorrah8072]

Cool video 👍 Nice rifle and cartridge combo. Can I ask why you are using such a high scope Mount particularly since you don’t have an adjustable comb on the stock to compensate for having to hold your head so high .

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@kenorrah8072 great question! I pulled the scope off my traditional night hunting rig, which needs a higher mount to align with my thermal clip on. It won’t be the mount I keep on this gun, but that’s a great observation. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

[@comloz]

Where is part one of the video? Thanks

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@comloz kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpLconyibq2ZgLssi=3k7-7dCeGcYuxZPq

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@comloz I released it 10 months ago…scroll through my videos and you should be able to find it. Here is the link for it. Thanks for watching!

[@stephenferguson6363]

Im building a 22 creedmore but I'll be running a 24-25" barrel 1-8" twist im gonna try the 80 grain eldx and berger 80.5 fullbore first

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@stephenferguson6363 that’ll be a great setup ….you’ll probably get 3525fps+

[@stephenferguson6363]

@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 yup prob with vitavori 555 I also have 500 berger 75grain vld and 500 of the 75 eldm but the eldms have been mainly been used out of my tikka 223 ai with 22" barrel.

[@Go__Birds]

Without a cheek riser or adjustable comb, why are you running a mount? Some low Hawkins rings would work out much better

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@Go__Birds agreed. I just ran this for the video b/c it fits my Triggercam well.

[@Hootie22B]

Fun video !!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@Hootie22B thank you!

[@peteoburrito920]

300fps doesn’t seem like a big deal until you do the math and realise you’re decreasing you muzzle energy by 11% 1900fpe vs 2200fpe I think I’d rather the longer barrel.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

It’s certainly something to think about. Curious that energy you’re calculating, is that at the muzzle or at a particular distance?

[@MichaelCrowley-tb9jj]

What caliber absuppressor are you using ? 30 cal?

[@KS-hj6xn]

Remind everybody to swab their barrels while breaking in new barrels.. Super Important!!! Run a swab every five to ten shots until you have fired at least 100 - 200 shots. Only takes a second, do it right! Your dirty rifle will shoot poorly.. Your target will prove it.

[@JH-jo9wt]

Mate that is awesome - what a sweet shooter Looks perfect for hiking etc What sort of barrel life would you expect out of this? rough figure? cheers

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@JH-jo9wt I’m thinking 1200 and will be very excited if I get up to 1500…. Thanks for watching!

[@clintivy623]

Polymer bottom metal for 2800 bucks is a little disheartening. I also think it should have t-nuts for easy install of arca rails. Your optic seems crazy high to me, but if it works for you, screw the haters. No denying it's a good shooter. Just found your channel today, enjoying it so far!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@clintivy623 thanks brother. I just popped the scope from my night hunting rig on it which runs higher rings to align with my thermal clip on. I’ll be running a shorter mount in the long run. Welcome to the channel!

[@mikerochburhns.102]

It’s not polymer it’s actually aluminum. Not sure what aluminum exactly though.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@mikerochburhns.102 that makes more sense. It’s a really light aluminum then.

[@clintivy623]

@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 I figured it was something like that, since your other rigs look right lol

[@aosk8670]

There’s 2 versions out there. One is a cast aluminum bottom metal. The newer ones are shipping with a machined aluminum bottom metal.

[@mikeanshit158]

Newb here. Is the 22 creedmore the same bolt face as the 6.5 creedmore?

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

Yessir it is.

[@Go__Birds]

Same case as the 6.5 and 6mm creedmoor, necked to 22 caliber

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@ yessir!

[@WayanSriada-x1q]

Nice Mr...

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@WayanSriada-x1q thank you!

[@joesabedra8792]

I found that on the ELD X/M in a 6.5Cre handloads my MOA shift was .5 MOA out to 400. Very Tolerable.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@joesabedra8792 heck yeah! That’s more than acceptable!!

[@lueyang4585]

Are the ammo lead free. Im from California with the most restricted gun laws, lol. Would like to purchase one in the future.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@lueyang4585 I’m not sure. I think it has a lead core.

[@LowRise]

I was looking into converting a Tikka 22-250 into 22 Creed but only selling ammo on there website is a deal breaker. Ill stick with my 6mms

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

Thanks for watching! 6mm’s are awesome, no doubt!

[@climotocross]

What arca rail is that?

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@climotocross Area 419

[@climotocross]

Would you happen to know what length and how you fastened it?

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@ I think it was the 8”. Just two screws, really simple to install.

[@moline800hdyup4]

You do understand that $2,800 is NOT AFFORDABLE for most people to shoot some groundhogs and coyotes.. even deer. An affordable gun for the average guy is $750 or less . If these manufacturers made affordable rifles in this caliber, it would take off in sales, and then the ammo would come down in price and a lot more ammo companies would produce it. Don't forget about the broke farmer that's looking for a truck gun to protect his crops and doesn't cost a mortgage payment or more. And if your gonna shoot it at 3000 with a short barrel doesn't that defeat the purpose of the 22 creedmoor caliber?🤷‍♂️ your getting ppc speeds

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

Well, let me address this one point at a time. First off, I never said it was affordable for all. That’s not the point of this video. I’m saying, this meets the minimum metrics of what I require in a factory rifle. I mentioned Savage and Tikka and other factory offerings and how I started there as well. Then I very specifically mention the issues I had with them. While also indicating accuracy was not one of them, it was more in the realm of feeding concerns and active hunting useage. Secondly, I’m from a farming community and fully understand both the cost restriction and needs of a true farm truck gun. Most truck guns are not needing extreme accuracy past 300 yards. This is not necessarily what I would suggest for that sort of scenario. Your speed question is a legitimate argument. But for me, a predator hunter and night hunter, I need my rifle to meet a specific set of tasks. Quick access and agility inside the truck cab is paramount. So for me, overall length is a huge deal and an 18” barrel and how much flexibility that gives me…. I’m really pleased with 3100 fps out of factory loads. I’m happy with the trade off. In my non-factory loads I’m able to get substantially more speed, btw. Either way, thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.

[@tannersmith3007]

Great response ​@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935

[@balaton1]

@moline800hdyup4 , I agree 100% with your comment. Keep in mind, 22 creed was just SAAMI approved around Jan 2024. I'd bet a dollar that Savage, Howa, etc will be chambering rifles in 22CM for some 2025 offerings. However, the Hornady factory loads shown in the video are only available from the Horizon website. I'm not paying those prices, so I'll be reloading. After anguishing about the price, I finally ordered a Horizon Vandal Prime with a 22" barrel. Should get it in 5 days from my FFL. I have never paid more than $1,000 for a rifle, this will be around $2,557. For your needs, I'm sure your local shop can recommend a more reasonable priced rifle to fit your needs? As for speeds, nothing else I own out groups my 22-250. I just can't help myself with this Horizon 22CM. I'll likely be upset with myself if Savage comes out with a model 110 for $1,200 in January. But I knew what I was getting into. Best wishes and keep doing the Lord's work!

[@moline800hdyup4]

@balaton1 thanks for your response and the cost isn't an issue for me but I know until I was in my late 30's it definitely was an issue and I still think about being broke daily and how fortunate I am now. Another thing I can't figure out is why a rifle cost 2500 or more . We all know damn well a action,barrel,stock doesn't cost that much to manufacturer and it's 4 hours labor on a slow day fitting one together so it's either the parts manufacturer selling there name or labor is outrageous. And people wonder why people are forced to buy foreign stuff🤷‍♂️🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@balaton1 thanks brother! You’ll love it!

[@ChrisFisher-y1l]

I can’t find any results on a 24” barrel with a 1 in 7.7 to 1 in 8 twist

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@ChrisFisher-y1l what do you mean by results? Are you asking for reloading results or places to go find barrels with that twist rate?

[@ChrisFisher-y1l]

@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 i have been trying to develop a load for my Mcgowen custom 24” 1-7.7 twist. 75gr eldm and supwrformance powder with alpha munitions brass. I’m trying to find online the accuracy of Hornady factory eldm and eldx. But no one is using a 24” barrel and no one is providing a twist rate of their barrel. I went ahead and bought a box of each from Texas munitions to test out since I can’t find any data from other shooters.

[@randallism101]

What magnification is the NX8?

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@randallism101 2.5-20

[@knightsriot93]

the OCL OCM5 is a far superior reflex suppressor than any AB offering.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@knightsriot93 interesting. I’ve not run their stuff. Send me one. I’ll be happy to test it out …ha ha!

[@knightsriot93]

When I start getting free stuff I'll let you know

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@knightsriot93 sounds good, brother! Thanks for watching.

[@knightsriot93]

@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 also curious as to how you owned a MK12 Mod 1 and not tried an OCM5? Lol

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@ part of why I sold it. Back when I owned it eight years ago, they were impossible to find. I could never get one so I sold it.

[@RonaldColeman-ef2rc]

Never had a savage let me down.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@RonaldColeman-ef2rc yeah I ran there for many years. They’re very accurate. However, when you start running them in competitive settings, they can’t keep up unfortunately without a lot of upgrade parts.

[@Blair338RUM]

Polymer bottom metal is a problem as you can’t torque it up for maximum accuracy in most rifles.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@Blair338RUM originally I was skeptical of it for sure, but I haven’t had any issues with it or accuracy so far. It’s functioned flawlessly. Thanks for watching and for the comment.

[@mikerochburhns.102]

Aluminum, not polymer

[@aosk8670]

It’s not polymer. It’s really light aluminum.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@aosk8670 thanks for the correction.

[@vettepicking]

Why is the scope so high? For 3k you could get some low rings for her

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@vettepicking I pulled the scope off my traditional night hunting rig, which needs a higher mount to align with my thermal clip on. It won’t be the mount I keep on this gun, but that’s a great observation. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

[@billcarlson852]

Box muzzle velocity ADVERTIZES 3285 feet per second…… what the hell??????? This caliber is turning out to be a FLOP😢😢😢😢

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@billcarlson852 bruh…..this is an 18” barrel. Most advertised speeds are done with a 24 inch or 26 inch barrel. Heck, with 75s out of an 18 I’m getting well over 3,300 fps. Do some homework.

[@JJBIRDIEGOLF]

Great rifle, better ammo!!!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@JJBIRDIEGOLF quality stuff no doubt!!

[@dallasweber7692]

Savage 110 Tactical Big Bolt. Fluted Barrel .308 Or 6.5 Creed Are Incredible Rifles For $800 Dollars 💸 Can Purchase 4 Savages For What 1 Of These Horizon 22 Creed. Besides My .22 ARC Out Performs The .22 Creed.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

Savage’s are great rifles, no doubt. You’re smoking that crank yank thinking 22 Arc can out perform the Bleedmoor. You can push the 75s at 3350 out of an 18”….your Arc can probably do that….with a 62….out of a 20”…. Math, bro.

[@dallasweber7692]

@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 False. The .22 Creedmoor & .22 ARC Are 3300 & More Depending On Both Of The Hand Loads. Both Burn Out Barrels If Shot Alot.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@dallasweber7692 out of a bolt action the Bleed is easily 50 fps faster. But again the 22 ARC is simply not hanging, let alone “outperforming” with any temp stable powders. The rest of your statement I agree with. The only “advantage” to the 22 ARC is being able to run it in an AR15 platform. Which is definitely a useful predator platform. That being said, in that configuration it’s substantially slower than the bleed.

[@dallasweber7692]

@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 Negative. Rise Armament Makes An AR .22 ARC & What I Own For AR’s Wilson Combat Makes .22 ARC. Regardless 10 Wilson Combat AR’s Is Enough. I Have Far More Bolt Rifles For Far Greater Real Estate Than Any AR Platform. Take Care & Have Fun.

[@Howardhandupme]

Low price ?

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@Howardhandupme 2,800 I think

[@Midpackmedia1775]

Why would you not use the eldms for hunting?

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@Midpackmedia1775 you absolutely can. They’ve proven to be a good hunting bullet in my book. I will say though, some guys that have used these specifically for coyotes claim anything past 300 yards you really want the ELDx bullet.

[@abeyfehr69]

It’s a 100 yard zero??

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@abeyfehr69 yessir

[@cordellej]

damn bro you tightened that suppressor on to tight bro you twisted the barrel

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@cordellej hahahahaha! Yessir, gorilla strength!

[@cordellej]

@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@billcarlson852]

22-250 kicks this calibers ASS !!!!!!!!!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@billcarlson852…. past 300 yards, you’re smoking dope, homeslice!

[@bestrong1240]

$2700 that's a good deal

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@bestrong1240 I thought so too!

[@jeffmcgrath2202]

I’m sorry but you sound like a used car salesman trying to sell me a 72 Pinto!

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@jeffmcgrath2202 hahaha…fair enough. Not sure why though. I’m not representing either company, just giving my experience with the products.

[@anthonyponnay7836]

Your scope mount set up is a joke. Sitting so high your almost resting your jaw on top the stock. Do yourself a favor and get some low rings and get a good cheek weld.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

@@anthonyponnay7836 I pulled the scope off my traditional night hunting rig, which needs a higher mount to align with my thermal clip on. It won’t be the mount I keep on this gun, but that’s a good observation. Thanks for watching and for the comment!